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So you start the video by saying that you can’t be an electrician if you don’t have a 2,5mm allen key. But then you complain about the product, because you don’t have a normal tx10 screwdriver and a normal small flat head electronics screwdriver. Which every electrician should have in their tool arsenal 😂😂 Love from Denmark, love the videos 😁💪

@zstation64

Жыл бұрын

Came here to say the same 🤣

@Sparks1Plumbers0

Жыл бұрын

Me too.... that "any electrician worth his salt" comment really came back to slap him in the face when he didn't have a long shank torx driver or even a set of precision screwdrivers. Calls himself an electrician eh! .... guess that's why he also avoids his real name. Eh... Andrew 😉 "JORDAN" ... sort of name you'd have if you were a dozy tit with giant tits. Oh wait... that's right eh. 😂

@Amped-JDS

Жыл бұрын

@@zstation64 Me too :)

@mikaraussi8200

Жыл бұрын

Get a wera vde torque screwdriver set with excangable bits. The tapered bits are slim and fit where they need to

@shilks8773

Жыл бұрын

He needs to get himself a set of 75mm length bits.

Every electrician should have a decent set of bits and extension bars and definitely a trimpot tool. You shouldn’t really complain if you haven’t got the tools for the job even if they are sometimes provided 👍

Can't believe a sparky doesn't have a full set of proper torx bits. Or a slim slotted screwdriver. Maybe the manufacturer was aiming for competent installation only

@BillyGooding

Жыл бұрын

Charges £30k to rewire a house but doesn't have proper torx bits

@gavjlewis

Жыл бұрын

​@@BillyGooding Nick definitely has them and much more reasonably priced! 😂

@paulevans7332

Жыл бұрын

Thats a bit unfair, they are house electricians.

@tobysherring1369

Жыл бұрын

When you consider how much they spent on power tools - a full set for everyone.

@thomasthetankengine2257

Жыл бұрын

They’re one of the leading electrical companies in England 😂 I’m sure Jordan knows the deal.

It looks like a giant 9 Volt Duracell battery!

@TooMuchInfoSir

Жыл бұрын

Reminded me of Corys thumbnail when he made the water tank duracell themed 😂

@mikaraussi8200

Жыл бұрын

Looks like a mail box to me

Jordan, I remember when you said: “Maybe I should put a wood plate on the wall to avoid making it a Swiss cheese“ … Well I think that was some chargers ago 😂

@shilks8773

Жыл бұрын

THe industry should really get their act together and come us with an ISO fixing geometry.

@jacopo.scarpellini

Жыл бұрын

I think he did take a piece of plywood from a neighbour’s skip; what happened to it Jordan?

@nusermane1076

Жыл бұрын

@@shilks8773 VESA mountable EV chargers 😂

Tx is very common here in germany (not only electrics). There are days were I use the TX more often than Pz/Ph. I use woodscrews in Tx mainly, there is no slipping at all

@Kinnikinnick

Жыл бұрын

A bit envious here, because I love torx. Even PZ is okay, but have to work with what's available - bad PH all day.

@danielmorgan9959

Жыл бұрын

Brilliant, the hex head is actually too

Why don't you use long bits of the appropriate type that you need, then you don't need extension bars. that's all I use and guess what, they go in narrow places? 150mm long work the best.

I’d have to fall back on my long Tx drivers rather than a multi bit kit, but it’s probably good feedback to make the holes a little wider.

Clever trick by John covering pulled out cutout fuse with his hand lol

@piotrlobacz

Жыл бұрын

​@@sunriseinisaan no it ins entire glory using quick short shots they avoid showing that clearly. Then at 2:55 John clearly holds his hand over cutout when he didn't have to.

@g7mks383

Жыл бұрын

Shouldn't even break the seal its not his to open.

I think the interchangeable screwdriver sets by Wera have all those skinny Torx bits, they are the ones you hardly use that sit at the bottom of your tool box forever.

I have one installed and it's great, glad you have taken them on :)

We've installed these units before, the screws themselves, you can use the Wera screwdriver and it works perfectly fine for the cover and the internal cover, causes no damage to the screws and makes life a little bit easier. 😉👍

I see some raw plugs in the cement between Bricks that's a big no no always drill into the brick because when you drill into cement it will come out easy, thanks for the video

Love the new video format! Keep it up

Can get a large set of screwdriver bits 3” long in Toolstation for a few quid, including all the useful Torx bits.

After what happened to the last 'best looking' car charger company - i think it's best to stick with well established companies with a good financial track record......unless you like having a charger that may turn into a brick when/if the company collapses or changes hands in some buy out.

@blower1

Жыл бұрын

@Ian Louden Really - well i wouldn't touch this company with a barge pole if that is the case. I had a look through the accounts of Anderson and it never made a profit, just survived on share premiums, loans and cash injections from investors. When it flopped, it had just made a 2.5 million loss.

@al45tair

Жыл бұрын

One nice thing about the Simpson & Partners charger, actually, is that it doesn’t rely on cloud services. It’ll work as a smart charger even without any data connection. If they go bust, the story with these is a lot better than most of the competition.

Love the new video quality, and the voice overs are great

@artisanelectrics

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Awesome other one.. Have you tried the test yet? Great teamwork! Thumbs up! Cheers!

I would guess you will get rid of it, because its not a tethered unit, and pluging in and unplugging the cord will be a big pain in the rear over time! 🤠👍 Does look nice as well. I am so glad our Tesla's have a little tiny connector on them! 😁

You can buy a set of torx screwdrivers in almost every DIY store (at least here in the Netherlands). I have a set of security torx screwdrivers, those have a hole in the middle of the star. Sometimes doorbell panels use these screws to prevent tampering. (Although nowadays everyone can buy such screwdrivers)

You need to take a look at The Charge amps Halo charger! It looks great and have the nicest charging cable you have ever felt 🥰

Good to see that the DNO came out for you and pulled your main fuse between you isolating the charger and installing the SPD 😉😉

@andrekidd6871

Жыл бұрын

I thought that was a No No aswell !

@jonathanfenton

Жыл бұрын

I bet you're fun at parties

@Pugjamin

Жыл бұрын

@@jonathanfenton it’s called a joke……. 🙄

@jonathanfenton

Жыл бұрын

@@Pugjamin So was my tongue in cheek reply 🙂

@justme5384

Жыл бұрын

Perhaps it was Pablo

We use wera Alan keys for all the bolts. But I agree they should keep them all the same size, we gave them the same feedback

saying if you don't have a 2.5 allen wrench you not an electrician and then not having a t10 and 2.5mm flat head screwdriver

@Lewdacris916

Жыл бұрын

LOL they should make them bigger for faster installation

I hate to say this but one of Cory's "tool of the day" would have got all those screws out, I know because I bought it too. Get the lad back!

"Every decent electrician worth his salt" has a set of torx keys.... normall quite common for safety devices... also "Every decent electrician worth his salt" n has a small terminal screw driver

Looks nice, but where would you wrap the cable round when not in use? Do they even do a tethered version?

How come you used the wireless CT clamp I thought you had cat5 cable straight from the charger ?

One Wera set of long bits would solve all your problems, T10 is included.

I have a spare torx set but you can have Jordan. Only fair after borrowing your blue PZ2 for so long.

When are they going to do Cat6 EV Ultra? If the rest of the place is on Cat6, it's sloppy to take Cat5e into a Cat6 RJ45 Patch Panel.

@BillsCountrysideAdventures

Жыл бұрын

Lol how much flipping data do you think a ct needs with a two pair. The terminals are same you donkey. Your 1980s bt phone line is same, uses two pairs.

@OmairArif

Жыл бұрын

If I had to guess being that close to the power lines probably makes it hard to meet Cat6 requirements. But regardless, does it actually matter at all? No EV charger is going to exceed the bandwidth of a Cat5e cable.

@MarkUKInsects

Жыл бұрын

@@BillsCountrysideAdventures Very little data, but Cat6 has larger conductors, so if you punch Cat5e into a Cat 6 patch panel, it will be a poor contact.

@aardwolf21

Жыл бұрын

Cost. Current Gigabit is designed to run on Cat-5, Cat-5e is overkill, why overkill even more with Cat-6? If you are that bothered just use Cat-5e keystones in your panel......you are using a proper patch panel, not one of those home gamer rear punch things aren't you 😉😁

@MarkUKInsects

Жыл бұрын

@@aardwolf21 Cat6 is typically only 10% more than Cat5e, and would only be a small part of the overall cost of the EV cable. No, not domestic patch panels. I suspect the way they are made they would be too fussy? keystones are not a great idea. And anyway, yes, there is sod all data on EV chargers today, but who knows in the future? I would guess that more than 95% of the Cat6 I put in is not needed, old Cat5 would more than do. But I want it future proof, as does the customer generally. When there is only a small price difference between Cat6 and Cat7a, I will put that in on new installs.

If an electrician doesn't have a small screwdriver for a CT terminal, is he even an electrician? If so, he is probably not worth his salt.

@jonathanstephens7804

Жыл бұрын

lol was thinking something similar after his first comment

Any cowboy worth their salt would carry a Tx10 driver in their bag!

Having a custom cable with power and control, with them being wrapped together, do you get much interference or do you add more shielding and potentially a drain wire within?

Simpson and partners are based just up the road from me… Nice to see what these car chargers look like… very nice 👌

Hey Jordan, you’ve had your Hypervolt longer than I have, you recommended it to me, how come your cover screws weren’t rusty? Mine were rusty after after a few weeks. Love my Hypervolt (except the rusty screws). Can’t believe you’re only just fitting EV Ultra to your own charger, you recommended and supplied mine for me. 😁😁👍

@michaels8336

Жыл бұрын

Had my hypervolt fitted for over a year now and no rusty screws! The white cover is starting to yellow slightly though.

Great content, and nice looking charge point! Not sure how I feel about the voice overs though.....jury is still out on that one!

Where does the cable get stored and it’s not wireless CT if you need to wire it in, it’s just remote.

Very pretty but you didn’t show us how it plugged into the car??

@barrieshepherd7694

Жыл бұрын

It's a wireless connection to the car 😎

Now that you are doing more solar pv and battery installs it’d be good if you could do a bit more on the charger videos about compatibility with those systems and what the can and can’t do with them and different time of day tariff. It’s not as straightforward as just, it can do solar. Even the Zappi has limitations in what is possible. i.e. you can’t stop it from diverting excess energy at certain times if your tariff makes it advantageous to actually export to the grid at that time. You’ve just got to make sure it’s not plugged in which is a bit analogue

Other than the gauge of the cable why is it Cat5e? Eg no shielding would the power going parallel to it not cause problems?

@barrieshepherd7694

Жыл бұрын

No

First of all... Stunning video. Second i would love a comparison between fluke and other name brand testers.

Thought it was funny you said "if you don't have a 2.5mm allen key, then you're not an electrician worth their salt", yet you didn't have the torx or smaller flat blade screwdrivers!

Not a fan if I’m honest. I think it looks like a bin 😂

@artisanelectrics

Жыл бұрын

Really 😱

@JohnR31415

Жыл бұрын

Or a mailbox

@MorgenBlue

Жыл бұрын

It's a bread bin.

@ColinRichardson

Жыл бұрын

Actually, now that You say that, it does look like those random "stub out your fag" bins you get on the side of the walls in the centre of towns..

@CarlosArruda77

Жыл бұрын

What? It looks the part. I thought Anderson chargers were rebranded. Looks great. However, and for Mr Artisan, that wall will need new bricks soon. Lol

Aldi have torx and hex key sets at the moment, £4.99 each. If you suffer from tool-snob syndrome, the same are available for 3 times the price at other leading stores.

Doesn't the wireless energy manager make the EV ultra redundant? Or did you run it for the charger you are fitting next week?

Wondering if you answer a question for me, recently had to replace my cooker switch, and the wires dont sit flush into each of the connections, what I mean by that the insulation around the copper doesn't go right up to where the screw meets the wire, so there is a bit of copper exposed on the inside of the switch, is that safe?

@SuPrAmAd101

Жыл бұрын

no copper should be showing.

@iLoveAppl3947

Жыл бұрын

You need to have someone coming and have a look i never take what customers says unless i check myself

Love it, slags off sparks as not being sparks for not having the right tools and then doesn't even have the right tools himself. I assume you have never had to wire in a central heating pump either. A full set of Allen, Torx and Security bits that are 100mm or 150mm long is 16 quid and a must have for any tradesmen dealing with modern appliances.

Energy monitor non compliant with DNO

I also dislike when there are skinny recessed screws. I ended up getting a bunch of Wiha 100mm length bits.

Try reaching the torx fasteners on the backside of the steering wheel in your Dodge Pickup.

And the service fuse magically sealed its self , crazy

@MrBobmeadows

Жыл бұрын

DNO was obviously in attendance to perform the supply fuse duties......

@jamieblatantsparky

Жыл бұрын

@@MrBobmeadows DNO would not have allowed the change out of there isolator to a private purchase isolator with surge protection

@Sparks1Plumbers0

Жыл бұрын

Not just the tampering with the main cut out fuse... but also the tampering with the sealed meter! Goes to show... even when waved under their noses in a video for all to see... what does the DNO or even his energy supplier do? Diddly Squat all! Can only guess as a side line Artisan offer a Meter Bypass service 😉

@jamieblatantsparky

Жыл бұрын

@@jonathanfenton the isolator belongs to the supply company it’s is classed as the point of demarcation

@g7mks383

Жыл бұрын

You are incorrect in your statement. Only the DNO can break there seal. Apart from in an emergency then the DNO has to reseal. Fitting yet another poncy EV point is not that.

whats the point of replacing charger that works?

You seem to skip showing us testing in all recent EV charger installs! How can a lone electrician test the RCD features inside the charge point when the upstream RCD keeps tripping? When the upstream RCD trips, you have lost any status information from the charge point app etc and can't even establish what kind of fault occurred! Please can you help us by explaining how you test charge points when you always fit upstream RCDs as well. Thanks

Is that a Rng Elite doorbell over PoE?

Jordan, please buy a set of torx screwdrivers, it’s painful to watch you struggle with torx bits 😂

@SuPrAmAd101

Жыл бұрын

struggles with more than just torx bits...

@michaelgirard4445

Жыл бұрын

Wait till he comes across snake eye screws .... then he'll know about the struggle :)

Do you only need an SPD for the charger if there isn’t one already in the consumer unit, or does the charger require it’s own dedicated SPD regardless?

@brendon-paul

Жыл бұрын

1 SPD for the whole installation fitted at or before the main consumer unit.

@michaelsevernsmith6156

Жыл бұрын

@@brendon-paul thanks for clarifying! 👍

@iLoveAppl3947

Жыл бұрын

SPD is useless technically. Nothing can stand against an electrical discharge and me being and electronics engineer you would be shocked to find what's in that spd... medieval era

So how much would you charge for this job if it wasn't yours? Do you hang the cable on a 6 inch nail at the side?

Why are they always wifi and not a solid wired connection to your network out of curiosity?

Nice work lads but Jordan I’m not a fan of it because it reminds me of a bread bin sorry 🙈🇮🇪👏😎

I liked the old video format, ever since Corey left, seems like treading water for a new angle.

Why install an SPD with this charger? It has its own integrated 4.5kA surge protector. It’d also be interesting to see the shunt disconnect support wired up (it has welded contact detection and can trigger a disconnection using a shunt).

I think you should get your wall checked with all those hole... another great video. What do you call that red bit for the cut out fuse? Looks safer than tape lol

@g7mks383

Жыл бұрын

You don't need one because you are not suppose to open the fuse it belongs to the DNO.

@swelectricals568

Жыл бұрын

@@g7mks383 that is correct. When you turn up to a job where mice have bitten through the insulation of the tails and no isolator I kind of have no choice. To be honest I would normally take the fuse out and replace the empty carrier.

Looks nice but plugging your cable in is a pain. Why is the port at the bottom?

Very Nice indeed!

Ah .... so that's what you were recording when I walked past the other day!

Where do you keep the cable?

@Jordd3041

Жыл бұрын

It’s un-tethered

@aaronmdjones

Жыл бұрын

The car boot.

Try a Smappee EV Wall, also beautiful 😊

I winced every time Jordan drilled into a facing brick instead of the mortar line which was often very close.

@blower1

Жыл бұрын

I always avoid the mortar line, from experience - mortar can crumble and not hold the wall plug securely, resulting in it loosing grip and spinning. Doesn't always happen and depends on how good the mortar is. This is especially the case when you come to remove something, i have had many occasions where the mortar gives way and just leaves a massive hole upon removing the screw.

@zorot3876

Жыл бұрын

@@blower1 Agree but not on my own house. I would rather use a resin anchor than drill stone or facing brick.

Can't you tell Jordan has got more money than he know's what to do with it !! :)

that cable isnt SWA? im confused... can someone explain?

@mickbitchum4664

Жыл бұрын

It's hi-tuff ... no steel armouring

Pulling the service fuse ? What’s the crack with that .

@Sparks1Plumbers0

Жыл бұрын

He's a KZread Star.... as such he can do as he pleases. Also Jordan is not his actual name so the chances of a DNO/Energy Supplier ever tracking him down are virtually zero. 😉 And anyway... they'd need evidence of him tampering with the cutout or meter and where are they going to find that eh? 🤣🤣🤣

wait you dont use tx in britain?

That's just asking for a pot of tea to placed on top of it! Or with it being Jordan some rare arabica black coffee in a China mug

4:25 Haha, no way... You're using that tool from Dragons Den UK. That's cool. I thought that guy made something special and Peter Jones, who has obviously never mounted anything other than the opposite sex, thought you could just use a pencil or a sharpie. As someone who HAS had to mark a spot through a hole, I can promise him that you're never guaranteed to be marking dead centre that way. This tool appears to be the solution, and there it is right there!

“Quick babe Artisan has posted another video!”

Not being tethered would actually wreck my head. So does it actually light up? That wasn't shown

The cable with the Cat5/6 included inside with electrical wiring... isn't there interference from running it in parallel? And also potential for induction (induced voltage in the internet cable)?

@farmersteve129

Жыл бұрын

The data cable is mostly just used for the CT connections which is just low voltage analogue rather than data. Aside from that,the twist of the core pairs is such that crosstalk and induced voltages are kept to a minimum.

@barrieshepherd7694

Жыл бұрын

​@@farmersteve129 ....and the current imbalance between line and neutral should be zero minimising the magnetic field around the power cables.

It's the Miller and Carter of the EVCP world. It seems like it was designed by an architect or somebody of similar 'who gives a smeg how to install it, doesn't it look great' ethos. Perhaps they used to work for NEXT designing pain in the arse light fittings.

@shilks8773

Жыл бұрын

Seems like number of the Simson crew are ex of Anderson.

Your landlord is going to love billing you for turning that section of wall into Swiss cheese… IIRC there was a TX10 driver and small flat bit driver in the 2021 Wera advent calendar, if not, every too store would be able to sell you appropriate sized drivers without resorting to 1/4” bits and extensions. Perhaps you’ve been away from the tools for too long.

No footage of the charger in use?

Happy Haircut John 😛👍

Wera do a set of Torx drivers

"I know what you're thinking: was that 6 different screwdriver heads in one charger, or only 5? Well in all the excitement, I kinda lost count..."

@artisanelectrics

Жыл бұрын

😂

Curious how long the directors stick with this brand after moving on from Andersen. Are they in it for the long haul this time? What happened to their previous brand - looks like they're still going!

@okr502

Жыл бұрын

I mean they have put their surname on it this time if that's any indication

Easee charger has a wireless Energy manager

I prefer tethered devices personally. Looks nice though

@matthewthomas6121

Жыл бұрын

Tethered units are available from S&P

Gengar rocks!

It is a waste to cut and replace a cable that is at most a couple years old. And to keep drilling into that brick? Brick and mortar isn't the easiest material to replace and have a good color match if the need arises in the future.

Smart, but all I’m seeing is a 9V Duracell battery

@steve11211

Жыл бұрын

Haha, now you have said this thats all I see, seems very cheap, just because it has some wood or wood effect, 1990's Rovers had wood effect on their dash, I dont consider them to be high end.. Would rather get a charger from a company that has been around a while like the zappi, we all know what happened to the last charger Jordan recommended as a high end charger..

Not really a fan if I'm honest. Also how well will that wood hold up when it's covered in bird poo?

Why strap the poor antenna to a big lump of mains cable? Do you not want it to work well?

As you said Jordan an electrician should have a 2.5mm allen key.. I also have a set of Torx screw drivers too, which would have easily worked getting the case off. Looks like I'm more qualified then you 😂😂😂😂.. P.S. I'm not, although I've been an electrical engineer for 40+ years and more importantly stripping down a Dyson vacuum requires the same kind of Torx drivers..

you didnt show the charging cable

Yep, like the voice over styles 👌

Jordan, @ArtisanElectrics Do you agree that we should have our own sealing numbers (and registration) so that we can "legally" remove (and then re-seal) the DNO fuse and the meter covers in order for us to "legally" and safely isolate the supply where no Isolator exists and then to allow us to install one. We are, after all, professional electricians!? And obviously, we would need to be certified and accredited in order to obtain our own seal number...?

@AAW-Electrics

Жыл бұрын

@artisanelectrics

Slags off people without the correct tools.. proceeds to not have correct tools for the job. Maybe you should as you say call someone “worth their salt”

@Lewdacris916

Жыл бұрын

LOl the irony

Ev ultra cable ?..when wifi ? My bad ... spos it'll be changed again it a short while :)

Those here making comments about a lack of torx bits are missing a valid, wider point about the poor design of many of the products electricians are expected to install. This is the result of the 'Minecraft generation' of design engineers, sitting comfortably in front of a large monitor, latte in hand. Take a look at the installation instructions of electrical products - particular light fittings - and you will see an expectation of a totally smooth, flat surface from the CAD package. How many manufacturers tell their engineers: looks good on the screen, now make a 3D print, go out in the rain, kneel in the mud, and install it on the rough brick wall over there! :-) (you can take your latte with you!)