My son was severely disabled, non verbal and had cerebral palsy and spastic quadriplegia, he also had the best laugh in the world, an amazing personality and a love for life and music until he took his last breath at 27 years old. I don’t think the value of someone else’s life should be decided by any outside force, and especially not a bunch of corrupt, lying, narcissistic politicians.

@barbarasherman4870

9 ай бұрын

Wonderful observation from personal experience, that's the voice we need to hear more of.

@eliah_B

9 ай бұрын

Amazing that he left you such a beautiful memory! May he rest in peace.

@anthonybrett

9 ай бұрын

I am a full time carer for my severely autistic 22 year son. Ill be doing this job, happily, till I die. I understand exactly what you mean mate. Reading that you lost your boy made me cry. Although my son has a mental age of a five year old, I can not imagine losing him because he's taught me more about life than any philosopher. I'm so sorry...

@ladidaohoh3168

9 ай бұрын

@@anthonybrett I was very lucky and blessed to have him in my life as long as I did, his prognosis according to Doctor’s was that they didn’t think he would live past 11 years of age, so I was blessed with many more years than that and each one of those years was a gift for me, as he was an amazing human despite his life being very difficult and him often being in more pain than anyone should be. I was very lucky to have him in my life. I wish you and your son many more years of time together, but in the end it’s never enough years when your child goes before you do, I hope that is something you never have to face. I have a lot of happy memories and the belief he is somewhere better than here and no longer in anymore pain.❤️

@savaloy666999

9 ай бұрын

@@ladidaohoh3168 You guys just broke my heart, while simultaneously making my day. Thank you for your generosity. Ain't the internet strange...

A 55 year old working class fella here who recently discovered and loves listening to these types of conversations. Not just the topics but the eloquence within them . Thanks Jordan, Douglas.

@hopeherring1567

9 ай бұрын

❤

@pdog547

9 ай бұрын

Two of the best right here, intellectual tsunami :)

@automotivated5934

9 ай бұрын

How did you find Jordan? I’m from the US and found him through political friends. Glad I did. Ha.

@user-pt5ps5wj4j

8 ай бұрын

51 year old father of a 6 year old boy. I thank you JP and Douglas a million times over.

@lc4365

8 ай бұрын

I'm with you, Mark. Dr. Peterson and Douglas Murray are gems. As is (IMHO) Sam Harris and also the fabulous duo podcasters Glenn Loury & John McWhorter. Passing along in case you might not be familiar. Enjoy!

These two together… I could listen to all day.

The way Douglas Murray talks and carries himself is such a throwback. I feel like I’m watching a 1950s and 1960s intellectual when they’re invited on a talk-show.

@andyman3309

5 ай бұрын

Well said

@krisking07

5 ай бұрын

YES! I see a Twinge of Kenneth Williams when he was being serious.

@foofkanon

5 ай бұрын

Remember he is from a working class family who was able to get a scholarship to Eton. Shame that he feels he can't be himself.

@kevinengland7444

5 ай бұрын

You must be referring to the high standards on display. Enjoy your baseball caps and hoodies.

@joblakelisbon

5 ай бұрын

​@@foofkanonHe's from a middle class family. Can you explain why you don't think he is being himself?

Never get sick of hearing Douglas talk

@mtarlo215

9 ай бұрын

Never

@PigBenis4U

9 ай бұрын

He's definitely a 💎

@raybarry4307

9 ай бұрын

​@camaro4ever222 You know that the woke idiots are wrong about the western world still being a dunghill of Homophobia by the fact that sooooo many millions of people love him and find what he thinks & says so thought provoking when 100 years ago he would have been Totally dismissed as an intellectual pervert simply to him being gay.

@WillThomson-st6hm

9 ай бұрын

These 2 talk all these ideas and this is the best brain thought you could come up with . How does it benefit anything in anway that you tell us all that you like listening to him? Guess what. The rest of us didn't need to know that. I like bananas in a smoothie. So fucking what.

@Mr.Artude

9 ай бұрын

@@WillThomson-st6hm you are a tool

This combination of brains & verbal finesse is something to strive for

@kbeetles

9 ай бұрын

You are forgetting the good and deep heart! Why is it just the "brain"?? Cheats and villains can have brain, even verbal finesse - but where does that take them?

@AR7-15

9 ай бұрын

“…but only the mentally fit, carry on…”PROTOJE,’EVIL DISPLAY’ (good message in song)

@hacorn96

9 ай бұрын

verbal finesse - yes that's the phrase i was looking for describing douglas to a friend

@taylorjlee

9 ай бұрын

You either have brains or not, can’t strive for that

@pittsburghboyertown3821

9 ай бұрын

This is what a college education is supposed to produce.

I just finished watching the entire Munk Debate between Douglas Murray, Matt Taibbi, Malcolm Gladwell, Michelle Goldberg. Douglas Murray is a beast at debates. Seeing Douglas Murray and Dr. Peterson discuss issues is a privilege. This is the kind of intellectual discussion that society is desperately missing in 2023.

@markrockin

18 күн бұрын

But the left have moved away from these two, the left has gone mad all over the west

@useraam

17 күн бұрын

Not when you describe it like that

Douglas Murray and Jordan Peterson... the most sensible, decent and admirable two men I can think of letting us in on their conversation - what a privilege!

@Sweethands4

4 ай бұрын

DM & JP aren't "letting you in". Internet hardware and the google corporation "let you in" on the conversation... and DM & JP get paid for it by other corporations' advertising budgets. ...this was not to criticize, just to clarify.

@luciamarston8804

3 ай бұрын

I like how Douglas steered away from the Lecture, and YET, here we go again. 😂😅

@luciamarston8804

3 ай бұрын

Since Jordan joined the Wire, he has CHANGED. He's heavy into RELIGION and keen to PREACH. I'm disappointed that he Always comes back to Preaching. 😢

@lenwilkinson672

2 ай бұрын

@@Sweethands4. What are you trying convey here. What is wrong with payment for expounding one’s knowledge. Not many around in their league.

@lenwilkinson672

2 ай бұрын

@salbonesally. Absolutely agree.Douglas is in a league of hie own.

We need Douglas to publish a list of essential English literature (politics, history, philosophy, and poetry). Even if it’s only, something like ten books in each category, it could go a long way towards helping people interested in “changing their life” getting started.

@ladycactus110

9 ай бұрын

I love your idea!

@ubiveritasetamor

9 ай бұрын

Yes!

@mark6809mm

9 ай бұрын

Excellent idea

@viramandybur

9 ай бұрын

Yes please!

@Hatemoth

9 ай бұрын

Perfect idea!

Murray epitomizes the best of British civilization and culture. As an Irishman, I find it hard to acknowledge our debt to Britain but let’s face it - high watermark of human development. And our man Murray here embodies it.

@helenmalinowski4482

9 ай бұрын

British under-statement at its peak. Complex issues summed up in few words. We so need Douglas.

@druoleary

8 ай бұрын

Aye,but he’s also a Scot, and therefore a Celt. Can we abide a lie? Whether it’s to brag about something one didn’t do but claims or to weasel themselves out of an unpleasant situation.

@iwenolongertrustliars9396

8 ай бұрын

It's nice to listen to people who have learned some things that work in life, but also double check each other and finally most importantly keep learning what works and sharing it with others. Leave what doesn't work for people and the earth behind where it belongs. Embrace and share what does work to have better lives and futures for as many as possible. Talking about a person spending twenty years strapped to a board in a straight jack in the basement of an insane asylum or hospital sounds like a problem that should have been solved around 19 years and 11+ months sooner as peacefully and wisely as possible. Nobody should live suffering like that any longer than the soonest it can be solved. Error and trial until you find something better!

@gooner_duke2756

8 ай бұрын

@@druoleary well, born and bred in England to an English Mother, with a Scottish father. So a half Scot 🙂

@DocMcCoy109

8 ай бұрын

No he is mine @@gooner_duke2756

I'm never more focused on every word someone's saying than I am when listening to Douglas. He truly uses language to its fullest potential

@thepict3458

7 ай бұрын

I agree, he has mastered the art of language.

@evaklum8974

7 ай бұрын

CHILE ARGENTINA AURORA AUSTRAL

@charlenepomicter5345

Ай бұрын

I heartily agree!!!

@leonidbrezhnev9917

26 күн бұрын

He comes across as a horses hoof

We need more people like Douglas Murray in this world. A true gem of a man!

Perhaps the best interviewer and interviewee combination on the planet. Both of these are among the most brilliant and important minds in western civilization today. Every time they get together is a gift to mankind. That the masses across the planet can access a discussion between these two for nearly free is almost miraculous.

@emilybrown1735

9 ай бұрын

Well said. I couldn't agree more . I was going to leave a comment, but yours summed it up perfectly 👌

@schmingusss

9 ай бұрын

Jordan's interviewing skills need a bit of polishing. He tends to cut his guests off too often. He's getting better but he has a way to go. I think he hogged the conversation a bit too much here. It wasn't as bad as his Dawkins inerview though.

@3Kiwiana

9 ай бұрын

Absolute it’s a pleasure to be able to listen to our greatest and most liberating minds, like you say these two are a treasure.

@michaeljamesduran1680

9 ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly.

@Volkbrecht

9 ай бұрын

How are they important? While I love listening to them, I can't helpt but notice that they are mostly irrelevant in the public discussion. Maybe that's because I'm German, and in my country we are not too used to non-native speaking public intellectuals. But I have a feeling that even in the Angloshpere these guys are not all that impactful. In the end, what they produce here is entertainment. Word porn. I'd love this to be otherwise. But I don't see politicians, be that in power or in the making, who make it a habit to lean on intellectual figures like that.

In a world full of madness, listening to sane people like you is highly needed

@AR7-15

9 ай бұрын

“….but only the mentality for carry on..” PROTOJE, ‘EVIL DISPLAY’ ( great message in the music)

@kaledon6

9 ай бұрын

these are extremely charming and beautiful men, they could easily be selected as Hollywood actors just for their physical appearance, now add to that their brains, winsdom and knowledge, it´s a priviledge (and I am NOT a gay man)

@dannffc

9 ай бұрын

@@kaledon6 You are a bit. I'd let Douglas buy me a drink

@solaveritas2

9 ай бұрын

@@dannffc Well. I'd let Jordan buy me a drink :)

@74KU

9 ай бұрын

How do you gauge sanity though? The actions of the majority? or people you happen to agree with?

I am grateful for Douglas Murray every day!

@laurasusanletis9629

3 ай бұрын

I am grateful too,

@jut20five

2 ай бұрын

For what…what is he doing to change the status quo? Will he step out from behind his well paying camera work and get dirty with the rest of us him and Peterson. Just like government that wants you to go to war to die for them . ..

@margokupelian344

2 күн бұрын

I’m grateful for JP every day. I enjoy listening to him bc besides being a highly intellectual and knowledgable man he’s also a spiritual man with a conscience and a soul. So many people nowadays don’t have a soul.

Douglas represents everything I love about British people! Such a character!

@Tamara-qd5dc

3 ай бұрын

I am so perplexed by those Western "intellectuals" who decided that since Western civilization has imperfections, it should be destroyed. Instead, they admire adepts of any idea that might even sound nice on the surface, from communism to Islamism, as long as it helps to destroy Western civilization. It happened in Russia, it happened in Germany - but these folks learned nothing, because they hate what they have, and they don't understand the idea of gradual improvement, they need the results now.

@beigeholland60

3 ай бұрын

And he's openly gay to boot. Love it.

@BlackCrystal9

4 күн бұрын

@@Tamara-qd5dc- very well said indeed!

Murray's book War on the West is by far the most thorough and honest discussion about a very real collapse of Western Civilization right now - absolutely mind blowing.

@seanhobbins

9 ай бұрын

What’s mind blowing is how that’s the conclusion you’ve come to.

@timwarren9370

9 ай бұрын

A decent book, but the best? Certainly not

@katofuntato466

9 ай бұрын

@@seanhobbinsNot to worry, your complaint has been seen and will automatically be forwarded to the manager. Thanks for your input Karen

@burner918

9 ай бұрын

It's an amazing book, no doubt. Absolutely loved it.

@Mr.Artude

9 ай бұрын

@@seanhobbinsby which we must assume that you disagree. You don't think Douglas's book was original and important? Can you offer another analysis of the state of Western culture that does a better job?

Both of you make me not feel crazy. My family came from Nazi Germany and my childhood in the German community warnings my entire life. As a 12 year old I told my father “we live in America that will never happen here “. Sooo…when I saw a month into Covid I saw the communist tactics and then spoke out to everyone I know. Lost lots of family and friends (also my job). Thank you! It’s the only hope not to enter into another dark period.

@CST247

9 ай бұрын

An interesting comment

@Xukaiwen2

9 ай бұрын

I hope you have found another job and are doing well.

@albertlevins9191

9 ай бұрын

Ouch. I think I might react badly if I was fired for telling the truth. Really badly.

@rafed3672

9 ай бұрын

Murray: "These people have no chance." Please examine the memories of the "White Guards", those who fought with the Bolsheviks ("Red Guards"). They also believed that the Bolsheviks have no chance and that the people would understand everything and after a short time will overthrow the Bolsheviks. I am from Eastern Europe. In my youth, I was a member of the Communist Party, until I was disappointed. You still do not see global coordination and purposefulness of sophisticated actions and the power of these left -wing political movements that have entered into an alliance with bureaucracy and the world oligarchy (see Vivek Ramaswamy). And I also want to ask you to discuss a possible collective resistance plan. This is an illusion that you can defeat them preaching individual stoicism. You cannot defeat them if you are not organized! The tsunami of evil goes to us! God save us! And thank you!

@nickeast1311

9 ай бұрын

Hang in there, you're not alone

An absolute joy to hear two incredible gentlemen speak on a very high level with intelligence and and a great deal of humility

I love Douglas Murray. He’s a voice of reason in the midst of insanity. I especially enjoy hearing him break down the reality of the nonsense his opponents are spouting. Having these two sit down together is a treat.

@markrockin

18 күн бұрын

Agree

Our daughter has hemipalegia cerebral palsy. Never sued to get a settlement. She is now has a position as lead engineer working for Raytheon. She struggled mightily to get where she is but a huge settlement would almost certainly prevented this outcome. Against enormous odds she has persevered and become uncommonly successful

@emilyosullivan5692

9 ай бұрын

Good on your daughter and you for supporting her. I, too, have hemiplegic cerebral palsy. It’s not easy, but I still love life.

@LucyMoll

9 ай бұрын

God bless your you and your daughter! ❤

@danielmandigo636

9 ай бұрын

@@LucyMoll we are blessed beyond measure

@danielmandigo636

9 ай бұрын

@@emilyosullivan5692 Gratefulness is always a blessing

@johnennis4586

25 күн бұрын

​@LucyMoll can I just ask, are you blessing your God for inflicting the disability to this person, or blessing them that they have pulled through despite the disability

The gravitation pull of two intellectual, truthful, real men; discussing societal and individual issues is astonishing. Always a treat, thank you!

@user-mf9dr6qs6y

9 ай бұрын

Story Time on Steroids?

@r13hd22

9 ай бұрын

One intellectual. The other is boxing himself into a religious zealot frame of mind and is losing his pull with non-religious people that have the freedom of thought required to be an intellectual.

@user-do4eq8sr5c

9 ай бұрын

⁠@@r13hd22good one

@timwannell6477

9 ай бұрын

@@r13hd22 no you've misread his work. He is pulling the LESSONS from religion...not pushing a set religion itself. No zealot there, just a psychological analyses taking place.

@jessedudezx

9 ай бұрын

you don't know how a semicolon works😊

Thank you both for allowing us to listen in! The best fun in a long time. 11/12/23. Sarasota, FL.

Douglas at 58mins; "I thought I could look my grand parents in the face". That's a powerful thought very powerful thing that's struck a core with me.

@joyspellmann4312

5 ай бұрын

I completely agree. And I found the comment to have a two-fold meaning. First, that he better understood them as human beings and second, that he felt a certain type of shared-experience that they may have been proud of him for braving. I thought the statement was profound and moving.

In my opinion these are the two most important voices today. Extremely intelligent and well thought out. Regardless of political beliefs, they're incredibly fair and provide listeners with information and insight that's impossible to find. Thank you both

@mattwilkinson4944

9 ай бұрын

Well said.

@davehallett810

9 ай бұрын

​@@dariusus9870Oh dear somebody's got a big chip on their shoulder 🙄

@rohansprenger6902

9 ай бұрын

​@@dariusus9870 His recent leavings are exactly that (like this video), which is unfortunate given most publications from a decade ago were built on brutally observed fact.... All this god-bothering waffle either indicates some ~wires have been crossed, or he has simply sold out completely to the $church$.

@3DisFuntastic

9 ай бұрын

Both men have very interesting things to say most of the time. But like this going into religion is pure word salad to me. As in retrofitting stoneage morality into morality.

@andrewjoyner4133

9 ай бұрын

@@dariusus9870 Anything in particular you don't agree with?? Since you obviously watched the whole video.

I could listen to Douglas Murray talk all day long. He’s such a clear and insightful thinker.

I listened to this marvelous discussion while pruning in my garden and tidying up for the coming winter, which is the time for growth underground, the strengthening of roots to anchor plants to support them through the brutalities of Texas summer's blast. I found myself similarly fortified. Thank you, gentlemen. ❤ I am refreshed and enriched.

@LeviNotik

5 ай бұрын

What a beautiful visual and metaphor. Thanks for this.

@kitgacusan2592

2 ай бұрын

What a refreshing departure from the daily drivel oozing from the mundane stuff of politicians brains.

This should have hundreds of thousands of likes to go with the views. Two great men in my opinion. Always interesting to listen too them.

Every time DR. JBP and Douglas Murray get together for a talk, there goes the next 2 hours of my life, as far as I'm concerned

@clsatc

9 ай бұрын

I like the "as far as i'm concerned" reference 😉

@tessangelabeck8958

9 ай бұрын

LOL with admiration for your confession 😊

@AndrewGrey22

9 ай бұрын

The result improves your life, so there goes nothing.

@djfolu9576

9 ай бұрын

That's 2 hours gained! Not lost! :D

@rktsnail

9 ай бұрын

Bingo

Two of my all time favorite people in a world filled 98% with fools

@WillThomson-st6hm

9 ай бұрын

I agree. I feel like there are so many who watch these two talk all these ideas, and all 98% of fools can say is "I like these two". What total idiots taking up comment space. I'm sure you agree.pointless hero worship. If you check comments there I mostly just stupid people with mindless judgemental opinions jist like that. People who apparently don't have the ability to discuss any of the IDEAS and can only pass their judgment X factor rating on them. It's sickening.

Imagine sitting down to dinner with these gentlemen. Wouldn't have to say a word, just listen , eat and thoroughly enjoy. ❤

I am a sixty six year old Woman. I have been diagnosed with many autoimmune illnesses which are slowly changing my way of life. This has made me realize that if I don't control the things I can control like my diet, I am going to become more miserable as I age. As I moniter what I eat, I have learned that I respect myself more. I have found that I can focus now on feeling more sensations that I hadnt remembered since I was a child. The joy of being in a warm bath or pool. Also, the soft feel of a fluffy blanket or petting a cute animal. Beautiful things and music. If we concentrate on our inner self, our other senses come to the fore and fill in the gaps of what we were used to having. I am growing even though I am elderly. It's an amazing thing. I have had to look after myself since I was a small child and I have experienced some terrible things and I was bitter for years. I have come to the conclusion that it is up to me to help me. If I can be less dependant on the outer World and be more dependant on the inner me I have found that I am on another road of self acceptance. It has been a wonderful experience listening to you both. Thank you.

Two of my favorite people. I really enjoy the wit and wisdom of Douglas whenever he is your guest, Dr. Peterson.

@MrVvulf

9 ай бұрын

I've read all Murray's books since "The Strange Death of Europe", and each has been wonderful.

@larscooleman8221

9 ай бұрын

Its on my to do list to read his books. But its tough, because im not native speaking English and non of the books are translated, so its challenging. But ill start soon.

@WillThomson-st6hm

9 ай бұрын

I'm so glad you told us that you like them .we were all watching eating to find out if you liked them or not, that way we know to like them. Go read other comments and contracts those with "proper brain thoughts" to the ones that mindlessly go "I like this,". That's what the like button was for.

@larscooleman8221

9 ай бұрын

​@@WillThomson-st6hm Somebody is suffering from small penis syndrome, isnt he?

@simonmartin3433

9 ай бұрын

@@larscooleman8221 Audiobook mate.I think he narrates them himself.

It's difficult to express exactly how constructive and illuminating this discussion is, the fact is, I challenge anyone to listen and not find themselves compelled to examine themselves thoroughly. If you do stumble into examining yourself, rather unwittingly, know that it's good for you. If you find yourself examining everyone else in your life but yourself, I would suggest you're in trouble and likely you are the problem. Thanks fellas, immensely instructive, thoroughly enjoyable and much appreciated, you have my gratitude.

@nicholaslang6187

9 ай бұрын

Well worded !!! His conversation really making me think and wanting to pursue more knowledge into these subjects. Anddd to better myself ❤

@garyfrancis6193

9 ай бұрын

Like Frank Burns?

@veronikamiteva5019

9 ай бұрын

God bless you. 🙏🏻🤍👌🏻

@tessangelabeck8958

9 ай бұрын

@@Ali.Al-MahdiFeeling better now? Some might feel lifted up by your imagination and sarcasm.

@elizabethanthony3916

9 ай бұрын

​@@Ali.Al-MahdiEsteemed by who ?

Recently found Douglass and absolutely love hearing this man speak! What a great joy to hear these two gentlemen speak. I’m grateful minds like these exist and I get to listen to them.

The knowledge base of these two individuals and the eloquence, fluidity and sensibility of their conversations on any topic is incredible.

Without even pressing play I know this is going to be the most refreshing conversation I've heard all year.

@AEWest-qx2sp

9 ай бұрын

Update: Play was pressed, and I am indeed refreshed.

It's simply marvelous to listen to Jordan and Douglas together, the brightest minds of our times.

@evaklum8974

7 ай бұрын

WELCOME TO LA PATAGONIA

@TheShootist

17 күн бұрын

Now throw in Stephen Fry and Bret Weinstein

I stand in awe of such inspiring, gripping and light-shedding conversation. Thank you; I am grateful. Please have more of Douglas Murray- you are a great , adventurous pairing.

24:57 "And a faith -- a recognition that the depth is telling you something." Very well put. ❤

@AR7-15

9 ай бұрын

“Deep calls to deep..” ✌🏼

Two people I never get tired of listening to. Having them together is a treat and in itself makes my day better. Thank you.

Douglas is a great listener as well as speaker. A very patient man.

These 2 gentleman are my heroes. Their intelligence and verbal dexterity r saving civilisation!

Just wonderful listening to Douglas Murray. If only I could be one fraction as articulate. Thank you!

I need to hear men having conversations like this, it gives me hope that not all is lost! Bravo Jordan and Douglas🙏

@eduardoflores5705

9 ай бұрын

​@@_Peterson_B_Jordanhey..

I really like the concept of unshakeable gratitude in the face of adversity. At the same time, my 87yr old aunt got cancer for the third time and couldn't face anymore treatment, so she opted out gracefully (IMO). We all got to say goodbye while she was not yet a wreck and in constant pain. There is no feeling of cheating and we still think of her very fondly.

@jdk67

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, I don’t really consider that suicide. She was old and ready to go home. I hope she is resting in peace. My regards to your family.

@diatonicdelirium1743

7 ай бұрын

@@jdk67 Thanks. I posted this just to show there are many perspectives on life and death. We also believe in celebrating the deceased, rather than mourning - tears are allowed. It was also very therapeutic to put together such a celebration for my father after he passed, and a great help to my mother.

@amartin9293

7 ай бұрын

It is fine and not against any religious beliefs to let nature take its course. It's another thing to enlist a doctor to kill you to hurry it along. I hope she did the former.

@joanneginever1890

5 ай бұрын

@@diatonicdelirium1743 Yes I agree with you entirely. The question of euthanasia is by no means black and white. I recently saw a documentary on a man, a husband with two young children, who had been in a tragic accident. He survived but as a result suffered an extremely rare condition caused by severe nerve damage which left him in a wheelchair and in constant unimaginable agony, every minute of every hour of every day. The doctors in the video said that the condition caused the worst pain of any illness or condition known to medicine. He was on massive amounts of pain killers with only modest relief. I felt so sad for this dear man. It was heartbreaking to watch him in obvious pain and despair, and this condition had no cure or prospect of improvement. I wonder if he continues on for the sake of his wife and children. If I were his wife, I would make it clear to him, that if felt he could not continue on in this way, I would support him 100% in a decision to end it, with love and support. 🙏💞😢 I cannot see any joy in such a life with no hope of respite, ever.

@noreenmcgovern1023

5 ай бұрын

Sorry for your loss. Acceptance is what she conquered.

Douglas is the best man I have listened to in a long time.

Jordan is such a sincere thoughtful man. He fully invests himself in every person he interacts with. Douglas Murray is brilliant. A pleasure to listen to these two intellectual icons.

@andersmful

9 ай бұрын

@@DavidHeffron78 Sorry to hear about your problem. Is it treatable or terminal?

@UkPome

9 ай бұрын

​@DavidHeffron78 I understand the insufferable comment but how are they fools?

@dontrlycare

9 ай бұрын

​@@DavidHeffron78 I'm not trying to be difficult. Could you give a specific example?

@ibexdnb2879

9 ай бұрын

​@@andersmful😂😂

@ibexdnb2879

9 ай бұрын

​​@@DavidHeffron78 amsure these 2 fellows are very aware of their flaws and as intelligent as they are i am sure they try to work on them? How about you?

My favourite two intellectual giants. What an absolute treat! Thank you both so much for coming together. Superb!

@evaklum8974

7 ай бұрын

JAVIER MILEI ARGENTINA

@andrewjones9690

7 ай бұрын

agreed, stephen fry is a close 3rd.

@dalelerette206

6 ай бұрын

An entire spectrum of Catholic human behavior can be mapped along the 10 Commandments based on Aristotlian esthetical imperatives expressed in Roman Catholic Language. There are 10 Commandments 3 Commandments toward God 7 Commandments toward Humanity All 10 Commandments need to be properly balanced within the lively virtues: chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, patience, kindness, and humility. Aristotle posits 10 categories of existing things: substance, quantity, quality, relation, place, time, position, doing, having, and being affected. Each of these terms was defined by Aristotle in pretty much the same way we would define it today, the one exception being substance.

@billrowell2919

6 ай бұрын

I agree but seeing either of these dealing with woke idiots is much more fun

@4uRicki

6 ай бұрын

Superb indeed, and the Lord knows we desperately need them both in these end times. 🙏

God I do love listening to Douglas Murray think out loud.

I’ve fallen myself asleep late at night at times listening to these two iconic intellectual voices. Never. Getting. Tired. So powerful 🙌🏼💪🏼

I’m a 26 years old Iraqi clinical pharmacist. My name is Serraa Khaphají. And this is a message to Dr. Peterson. I’ve been a student to your teachings since 2017, and I cannot help but agree with the majority of what you teach, share, voice and believe. The reason that got me to comment today is this: I’ve overheard my parents watching an Iraqi interview between a tv show host and an activist, discussing the concept of the ‘social gender’, and the conspicuous opinion -now- that gender includes the social, psychological, cultural and behavioral aspects of both biological genders and ‘supposedly’ other gender-identity. This ideology is being openly discussed here in Iraq, on the political front, but not yet socially. Us Iraqis have the not-so-intellectual attitude to care about ‘trend’ a little bit more than necessary, and to be entirely honest, I am terrified. Iraq has been the closest thing to the host of multi-angled totalitarian despotism ever since 1978, or maybe before that. Politically, religiously, and socially, Iraq has been abused far than what’s imaginable, and it is not getting any better, not with this. Why? is the Left absolutely scared of their ‘theory’ falling out of proportion to the point they have to push it to another country to support it? Why this? People here have been confused as it is about raising their children since the 80’s, and I know it never looked like it was getting any better (at-least across my personal lifespan), but this? This where our politics still doesn’t accept homosexuality? I always agree with your notion about specifying a place to stay the hell away from, I never thought though, that this place would be my country, not to this extent. I hope this gets discussed by intellects like you, who search and seek the truth, and I hope you see this, because truly, never have I felt before to this degree, that things are spilling uncontrollably out of hands. Thank you…

@badgerlife9541

8 ай бұрын

Wow, that’s crazy. Thanks for sharing. Who would have thought that in Iraq, of all places, the politicians and the media would try to misuse this topic to their advantage. Crazy, how it’s even spread to Iraq. But also not surprising, since a totalitarian state or dictatorship will always use trends to further expand their ideology or strengthen their influence.

@n.c.1201

8 ай бұрын

Bump

@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid

8 ай бұрын

May you continually search for truth no matter where it leads you. Even if the truth is unpleasant, uncomfortable, inconvenient, embarrassing, difficult and even painful.

@avigailomichael

8 ай бұрын

May you find Truth, may Truth find you. Salaam, Habibti!

@Serraainc

8 ай бұрын

@@avigailomichael Thank you 🙏🏻✔️

Faith is action based on courage and trust. Thank you Dr Peterson.

I would put this conversation on my mantle as evidence on why the world needs to move away from short form information seeking and thought and manipulation. These long form discussions, which encompass so much of life, give us the depth and breadth not to just consume information, but to learn how to think about it, discuss it, and learn from it. Thank you both.

@domroc5776

9 ай бұрын

I totally agree, excellent take

@alessandravittoriniorgeas5345

9 ай бұрын

very well said! I wish though people could continue this form of conversation elsewhere, possibly face-to-face. We need to find new avenues for social interaction that are more beneficial and effective for the good and health of our communities.

Douglas is a treasure. May he live and evolve forever more

Dr. Peterson always comes off as genuine, because he always thinks before he speaks.

This conversation is why the tyrants won’t ever get their way,not for very long at least,TRUTH and search for meaning will always shine through and these conversations are beacons that draws us like moths to a flame in the darkness that is reality!

Douglas Murray, yes! Nice to see him back... JP have him on more often!

@brianmeen2158

9 ай бұрын

Douglas is amazing

I’ve always wondered what people felt like when great minds of the distant past were alive & influencing people, but only on very limited scales & timeframes. It’s such a privilege to absorb this knowledge from these men in real time and for the entire world to see all at once.

@edobrisku7134

9 ай бұрын

T❤

@badgerlife9541

8 ай бұрын

Me too! Have often thought: what must it have been like for the listeners in Ancient Greece who got to listen to the talks of the great philosophers at that time? Now we can experience a similar thing in our own lives 😊

@machoo55

8 ай бұрын

Write about it to consolidate learning!

@evaklum8974

7 ай бұрын

ALEXIS MAC ALLISTER A R G E N T I N A

@evaklum8974

7 ай бұрын

​@@edobrisku7134 CHILE ARGENTINA ICE HOCKEY

Douglas Murray is one of the if not the best journalists I have ever heard! ❤️

I find myself entranced in watching these intellectual giants grappling with what aught to be common sense. Thank you!

The two most courageous men alive talking to each other. What a treat ❤

@tensevo

9 ай бұрын

they seem to spend a lot of time explaining how they are not courageous, they just know what to fear, and that is not speaking your mind publicly.

Douglas just might be my absolute favorite British speaker. His last book was phenomenal. He always has something compelling to say on a long-form podcast like this. He's the hero we need, not the hero we deserve.

@belindamay8063

3 ай бұрын

@kimchimasala. Don’t look for heroes. They won’t rescue you. They can help, but they are only human and are as prone to moral error as the rest of us. Some of the responses here are over the top. The search for heroes is a bad sign. Learn everything you can from everyone. But keep your dignity and independence.

Six months ago I was unaware of Douglas Murphy; now, I can’t imagine being unaware of this intelligent, articulate man. Thank you, Dr Peterson, for bringing us this interview!

Negotiating your Identity... That has to be the best way of saying "learn to be your best self for yourself and others. Not because you are told to but because you communicate".

Mr. Murray is now in the top 10 World Hero's for the month of July 2023. Thank you Mr. Murray.

I'm genuinely grateful for this video and the conversation presented. I'm a practicing therapist (LCSW) for the past 19 years. I've worked in Drug Court and with veterans, adolescents and now inpatient (suicidal) adults. I am not surprised that non-acceptance and ingratitude (bitterness) causes and prolongs suffering. I'm not discouraged or threatened in any way to challenge victimization, blaming, and demanding things without effort...if I'm drummed out of this profession I will dig potatoes or pour driveways. I appreciate your work, both Doug and Dr. Peterson; and I look forward to more books, content, and continually challenging the pervasive deceptions so many desperately want.

@nathannall5754

9 ай бұрын

Similar story here, though I started out with risk assessment in the ER, then went to acute inpatient, and finally moved on to private practice outpatient. I'd be very interested to pick your brain outside of youtube. I'm with a good group of fellow Peterson acolytes, though most are LPCs. I'm the lone LCSW.

@5thdimension954

9 ай бұрын

I’m a 35 year Master’s prepared LMSW as well and I had to retire early due to woke culture creeping in on our unit. I refused to play identity games whether it came with pronouns or endorsing “furries” who wanted to be called “kitty”. I was accused of being “trans phobic” and a “Trump lover” but I believed I cared deeply for the mental health well being of patients. I refuse to co-opt in the insanity and happily retired. Thank God! I’ll find other ways of being in service to others

@AlphariusandOmegon

9 ай бұрын

Therapists like yourselves are being drummed out of the profession by politically zealous licensures and idealogically bound institutions of "higher" learning.

@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid

9 ай бұрын

You’re all sane and therefore are definitely still needed because you’re of value currently hidden for shallow and meaningless words and activities

@AlphariusandOmegon

9 ай бұрын

@@AB-nj4ex If you thought it was bad 10 years ago you'd really hate it now because now they beat you over the head with idealogy and then infantilize you with gift cards for feeding them back their own idealogy. What I will say is for most people myself included when you've finally had enough of letting drugs ruin your life and making it a living hell, you can quit no matter where you are. I got sober in a VOA homeless shelter, while I was there I witnessed tremondous abrupt violence, suicide, drugs were everywhere, corruption amongst the staff everything from having sex with residents, aquiring drugs for them, stealing from residents, faking drug test results, planting contraband etc. Yet despite all of that, including a SWAT team raid of the facility after a resident in meth induced psychosis attempted to murder everyone in the facility with a particularly brutal instrument, whom we finally were able to lock in the bathroom where he proceeded to hang himself and die before the SWAT team arrived. Despite all of that horror, depravity and drugs I was able to stay sober and rebuild my life. It took monumental effort but once I realized I was the person causing all of my problems and that my solutions to the vicissitudes of life we're causing my life to be unbearable, I finally reached a bottom from which I could rebuild a foundation for the rest of my life. Point being you can change, no matter where you find yourself.

Two brilliant men. Thank you for talking sense and standing up to the bullies!

Every time i see and listen to Jordan is strikes me... This is how the Legends, the Philosophers of history must have been like that we all know of today, thousands of years later. The intellect, the deph of thought, the concise dialogue/monologue and the precision in argument and speech.

So very much enjoyed this interview. I really connected with the idea of exposure therapy and facing your fears. As a small child I was absolutely terrified by car washes, I thought these machines were going to break through the windows and we'd die violently. I would have a major melt down, some adults in my family thought it was hilarious to take me through them and watch me go into hysterics, laughing at my terror. But my father took me aside. Explained to me to trust him, I would be safe, he would take me through it and I would be ok. I remember him sitting me in the front seat and knowing that my father (in my childs eye) was the bravest strongest man ever and he would never lie to me, I took a deep breath and sat quietly while we drove through the car wash. I was never afraid again. After listening to this interview I see my father taught me a life skill that day. Ever after when I find fear gripping me by something, I move forward into it, facing my fear, not allowing it to control me. I am ever grateful to my father for moments like this in my life. And it's wonderful to hear JP and DM discuss why this works. To me fear is a flag to pay attention but then not to allow it to over come you. Courage is necessary to live life fully.

@uwaviator

9 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing this memory. What a perfect lesson.

@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid

9 ай бұрын

What an incredible father you have! A true father

Can we just listen to these guys talk, like, every day? The two of them riffing off each other is so organic and refreshing.

Two brilliant men. Thank you so much for letting us listen to your conversation.

Long-form discussions between smart people are excellent mental food. These two gentlemen are a couple of the best.

I thank God for these two giants of intellect and reason.

Yes! Douglas Murray is at his best when he is on your show, in my opinion. He seems to be more sincere and passionate here than anywhere else.

I've watched this podcast for the third time and it just keeps giving. Life is a journey and the prize is wisdom.

I love the casual nature of such a profound deep conversation. The type of chat that you have with a dear friend after dinner being served.

I am very grateful that we have these two brilliant men willing to share their intelligence with the world.

My two personal heroes. I could listen to them all day. What great men they are.

I cried so many times during this episode. This means so much to me. You two are my heroes!

Douglas is the man! Makes me proud to be a Brit.

Loved Douglas’ sharing from his own life and grandparents generation. Very thought provoking, I’m 68 and made the mistake to start listen in bed… I just had to keep listening and thinking about fear, courage, purposeful living etc… meaningful wonderings about life. So glad you have a community that nourishes mind and character and spirit.

Thank you both for living out your convictions. I appreciate your courage.

Warriors of Integrity. God Bless Them.

Watching these two talk is such a a pleasure. Watching Douglas Murray listen instead of talk is a rare and curious experience.

Always nice to hear people of high intellect share their well reasoned ideas. When i was younger i thought people like this ran the world and made all the most important decisions... what a shame that often isnt the case 😊

These 2 men are the pinnacle of intelligence and courage. I could listen to them talk for days!! Thank you so much Dr.Peterson and Mr. Murray for speaking the truth.

@tensevo

9 ай бұрын

they seem to spend a lot of time explaining how they are not courageous, they just know what to fear, and that is what happens when you do not speak your mind publicly.

@sandralarson-gonzales3797

9 ай бұрын

which goes to show what drugs do to your body, it steals your soul, rx or street drugs

@user-rv1wf6sd4p

12 күн бұрын

Douglas and Jordan arent courageous.. It's the others who are COWARDS!!

Aren’t we blessed by you two.❤🎉😊

What a pleasure. Two of my favourite people talking together.

What a pleasure to listen to two intelligent and aware people discussing relevant questions. Thank you.

When I mourn for Scruton having passed away, I see Douglas Murray and I realize there is still a heartbeat in the UK.

Thank you for sharing this truth stream, shine more light to darkness and empty vessels in the world.

Magnificent discussion, gentleman. Thank you .

Man I would LOVE to have an audio book of Douglas reciting and discussing his top 50 poems. Can we make that happen?

@2perceezy

9 ай бұрын

Poem #1: Jesus was gay

@margaretsorohan

9 ай бұрын

Oh boy that would be just wonderful

@rebeccamclass1912

9 ай бұрын

like there's a 'we' at your disposal...😅

@AndrewGrey22

9 ай бұрын

@@rebeccamclass1912 The Jordan Peterson Federation for a Better World. Don't you know a thing? Excellent group in which to be a member.

@tehtapemonkey

9 ай бұрын

Or the dictionary!

A tremendous conversation by two humans that have great respect for one another. Not a criticism, just a point worth making - Douglas is Jordan's guest, we're here because we trust the host, but we invest in the conversation because we want to hear the guest.

Fantastically insightful and utterly thought provoking. Thanks.

This is probably my new favorite interview. I love listening to JP and Douglas Murray talk,

This is the kind of discussion that is not only truly fascinating, but also extremely relevant and inspiring!

@Christopher-qq4dl

9 ай бұрын

Lol

It is a privilege to listen to those two amazing men. It's so rare to have intellectuals of this level, but still humble in a profound way.

Quiet down kids...the grown ups are talking! These two are just too good! What a blessing to have access to listen in as two powerhouses distill down things that have actual meaning and value in this age of distraction and nonstop "click bait" both online and onLIFE. Anyway praise God for the good people still swinging away out there, fighting for the souls and existence of mankind!