What I don't understand about America is that you have National (eg socialized) Police and Army, but then if someone suggests socialized healthcare, half of America freaks out!

@Rawen1982

Жыл бұрын

indoctrination is an ugly but effective tool. Just look at how they get about guns. There have been more mass shootings this years than there have been days in so far and too many Americans defending this horrible mess.

If they charge $40 to hold your own baby you should counter charge the nurse/doctor $80 for holding your baby (since it isn't their's)

@MrBonners

Жыл бұрын

rent

@oscurasignora

Жыл бұрын

​@@MrBonners Human traffic

@rook8331

9 ай бұрын

You're Genius! 🤯

@FailRaceFan

6 ай бұрын

In most countries with good universal healthcare, 40 bucks would be the price for any life saving operation. I'm wondering how the US is still hanging on to that stupid way of doing it. If the FDA would restrain the prices for medincine to atleast a half or a quarter, many lifes could be safed.

@flyingspinners1

4 ай бұрын

Theres no way they do that….

"If you're poor, your dead." As an American, I agree %100.

@oneworld1160

Жыл бұрын

Yes, and why did you make your own country such a shitty place?

@kathys1285

Жыл бұрын

That about sums it up

@h.m.5724

Жыл бұрын

*you're

Last week in UK I called 111 (not quite emergency number) for advice. They wanted me to go to Accident and Emergency in the next town. Waiting time for ambulance was 10 hours. You’ll like this - they sent a prepaid taxi to take me! Came in 5 minutes. I just hope we can save the NHS from privatisation. It would be a disaster.

@capablancauk

Жыл бұрын

I think your problem would be solved by more funding to NHS not an American style fix.

@kathrynwilson422

Жыл бұрын

@@capablancauk indeed. I have now made three visits to my doctor, 3 to the urgent eye care department at the hospital, 1 to the accident and emergency and finally, 2 to a private optician. I have had so many checks and scans, Including 2 head CT. Total cost? Zero. The NHS is an UK treasure.

@PolarBear4

Жыл бұрын

My sister called for an ambulance in Dec because of covid (her blood oxygen was in the low 80s which is obv very bad!) and within about 10 mins a guy in a rapid response car came to assess her. It was quickly deemed she needed to go to hospital urgently and a private ambulance (seems the NHS have been hiring private ambulances to deal with the demand) arrived within about 5 mins to take her in. Can't complain at all and no worrying about bills (would that have counted as paying for 2 ambulances since there were 2 lots of paramedics? and then the best part of a week in a critical care bed) at any point of an already stressful situation.

@ffotograffydd

Жыл бұрын

The current problem with ambulances is caused largely by lack of available social care, which means elderly patients can’t be discharged from hospital, that in turn leads to a lack of available hospital beds, so ambulances are tied up waiting to hand patients over. My friend is a paramedic and she recently spent almost an entire shift sitting outside a hospital with one patient. This is of course deliberate, because a majority of the current government want to privatise the NHS and introduce an American style system. They aren’t even hiding it, and yet we elected them anyway! 🤦🏻‍♂️

@jonathanwetherell3609

Жыл бұрын

The current UK government wants the NHS to go, they dream of the profits made in the U for the rich.

In Canada there was a national poll asking who we thought were the greatest Canadians ever. The number one person was Tommy Douglas, the man who brought Universal Health Care to Canada.

@defeatstatistics7413

11 ай бұрын

In the UK, Nye Bevan and Clement Attlee are consistently on those kinds of lists, they're the fathers of the NHS.

@marieross6231

7 ай бұрын

Had my daughter in Canada in 1984, c section, one week in the hospital..... no bill. My husband did have to pay for parking, years later in 1990 my husband had heart surgery, no bill, and again in 2002 another heart surgery, no bill. I have no problem paying taxes, it's still less than U.S. cost. We see our doctor approximately ever 3 months (I'm 71 he's 74 ) The U.S medical system has a lot of Americans afraid of universal health care. Too bad!😢😮

I had two babies in the 80s and it cost nothing here in Ireland. A friend's wife was knocked down in Chicago and after a lot of effort in the hospital, she died and her husband got a bill for $50,000! I was shocked. Imagine piling trauma on top of the horror of losing your partner.

@iriscollins7583

Жыл бұрын

My condolences to yourself and friend. It's unbelievable 😟.

@annedunne4526

Жыл бұрын

@@iriscollins7583 Thank you. He was a musician and the huge number of American and Irish traditional Irish musicians banded together, played concerts and hosted evenings and paid off his bill. Later he met a lovely woman and they had 15 happy years together until he died recently.

@goncalocarneiro3043

Жыл бұрын

Goodness... What a nightmare. Something like that is sure to give people suicidal thoughts. Salt on top of a wound, no, "wound" doesn't sell it. Salt bath on a skinless person.

@tammiemcclure8987

Жыл бұрын

When my husband died I refused to pay the bill, we had insurance but there was still a bill around $2,700. Thankfully I'm in a state that allowed me to do that (some don't), I wasn't at the hospital so I didn't sign any paperwork saying I would pay the bill because he passed before I arrived at the ER. My name wasn't on the bill so, I was released from having to pay for it. That, however is a very rare occurrence.

@laurieleannie

Жыл бұрын

Oh. My. God. That is HORRIBLE! I am so so sorry!

Having to pay to hold your child is awful

@CethIsADevil

Жыл бұрын

Having to pay for most of these things is terrible.

@irgendeinname9256

Жыл бұрын

It's ridiculous

The NHS isn't perfect but it's still an incredible service and I wouldn't have it any other way!

@Jimmy_Jones

Жыл бұрын

Well I would have it another way. More funding and better pay for the staff as a result.

@Argrouk

Жыл бұрын

@@Jimmy_Jones If only as a nation we would stop voting Tory, who see US healthcare as a goal.

@Jimmy_Jones

Жыл бұрын

@@Argrouk Yeah. They have gradually been getting worse. Now they just need to be out. There isn't a competent person in the party anymore. I can't believe that they have stalled picking a replacement for Boris for so long.

@BabyWil88

Жыл бұрын

@@Argrouk Labour started privatising the NHS, Tories are just finishing the job Neither party think about the people anymore, they only think about the rich and their donors, pressing the buttons from behind the curtain

@Argrouk

Жыл бұрын

@@BabyWil88 That's why I'm glad I'm in Scotland. The sooner we dissolve the union, the better

I'm a type 1 diabetic and live in the UK, I get everything I need free, from insulin, pen injectors, lancets to test strips. Literally everything I need, not even on a script. All my meds are free even non diabetic meds. Being diabetic makes you more prone to other issues so the NHS recognise that and make everything free on medical exemption.

@emme2141

Жыл бұрын

Same here with epilepsy, all my medication is free. The amount of money I would have to pay if I lived in America for everytime I’ve ended up in A&E because of it is crazy too, I’d definitely be bankrupt.

@eogg25

Жыл бұрын

I was a care giver for a diabetic and he was on the Free USA government sponsored Medicaid health care and he got his for free also. I drove him to his doctor visits. For any of his other medical problems He also received money for food from the government.

@MarcelaElviraTimis

Жыл бұрын

@@eogg25 isn't medicaid something the elderly get?

@eogg25

Жыл бұрын

@@MarcelaElviraTimis No, We get Medicare, Medicaid is for people that can't afford Medical insurance, like mother with children, handicapped etc. Medicare is deducted out of our paycheck, and when we retire that's when you get to use it but its still not free, some money is deducted out of our Social Security for it when we retire. its like a tax.

@MarcelaElviraTimis

Жыл бұрын

@@eogg25 oh. I mean, that's a thing in other parts of the world, too... exempting from medical expenses ppl who can't afford them. However, the local national health insurance (govt. owned and operated) makes it so that the rate/premium is lowet for those who can afford to pay, plus, there has never been such things as pre existing conditions in the public health insurance... which is more than I can say about private health insurance

I saw the short from another compilation about a US woman in Paris getting hit by a car, and she had to pay 8 euros for the ambulance. Honestly, as a Dane, my first thought was that it was an odd and weird thing to charge money for an ambulance. I never imagined it was a thing to pay for ambulances. In Denmark they are always free.

@petermayer9292

Жыл бұрын

I think I saw that one too. The 8 € was for the night in the hospital. In germany it is like 7 € for one night. I believe its the price for food for one day.

@oLynxXo

Жыл бұрын

@@petermayer9292 yes, it's basically the average cost you would have had if you hadn't stayed at the hospital. It's around 10€ a day but capped at like 200-ish Euros if your stay is very long.

@RatKindler

Жыл бұрын

Where I am in Canada it cost $250 for an ambulance. The hospital stay is free but the medications once you leave the hospital are not free. Still a lot cheaper than the US though. Americans come to Canada to buy their drugs.

@joesama3282

10 ай бұрын

In Singapore, it cost $90 standard and $120 for private ambulance. Sometimes the private hospital will try to be sneaky and overcharge the family, but thankfully we can always go to the government health ministry agency to file a complaint and they will suspend the private operation plus a heavy fine from the upper management. Staying in hospital are free but medicine is not free, unless you are serving the national military service then everything will be free. My mother was in the ICU condition before her passing and my father have to pay around $500 for my mother 2 weeks in ICU

When you find yourself in a medical emergency, the LEAST thing you should worry about is the cost of an ambulance. I feel sorry for Americans because they seem to be brainwashed into thinking this is normal. IT is not. Every other Country takes better care of its citizens than the US 😞 I can't get my head around the fact that 35% of American adults avoid treatment bc of the costs. Universal healthcare isn't evil. It is highly regulated so pharma companies can´t charge ridiculous prices. That being said: given American pharma companies and costs, universal healthcare wouldn't work in the US UNLESS the market is regulated

@eogg25

Жыл бұрын

Nobody pays 8 thousand dollars for a ambulance in the US. Thats what they charge but most everyone has insurance which is high especially with the deductible but when you are charged with a 8 thousand dollar bill you pay the deductible mine is 250 bucks and the insurance pays the rest but if you don't have government funded Medicaid which is for people that can't afford insurance and or Govervenment Medicare which is for retired people. But if you have any of these you get service pretty much the same as people with healthcare insurance. You don't get yours for free either. you pay for it in your taxes.

@ffotograffydd

Жыл бұрын

@@eogg25 It is free at the point of need, and our payment through National Insurance is a fraction of what I know my American friends pay.

@eogg25

Жыл бұрын

@@ffotograffydd I have been very fortunate, any job I had until I retired paid for my medical insurance. the last job I had paid all of my medical bills. these are perks that many companies offer. We also have the health care system from when Obama was president. its not very good but its cheap. I know nothing about how your country runs health insurance. We also have Medicaid for people that can't afford insurance, paid by the government and Medicare for retired people. I also never heard of anyone paying 8 thousand dollars for an ambulance, our ambulance service comes from the local fire dept. and is paid by Medicare. Our insurance could be better, nobody is denied health care. in this country.

@ffotograffydd

Жыл бұрын

@@eogg25 And there you go, you have been “very fortunate”, many millions of Americans are not as lucky as you. The irony in all of this is that universal healthcare would actually be cheaper for US tax payers, you actually pay more for what you don’t get than we pay for what we do get. It might be a good idea to look into how we run National Insurance before commenting on it, but thank you at least for admitting your ignorance of our system. Also, just because you haven’t personally heard of people paying for an ambulance doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened. I have quite a few American friends, with varying degrees of health cover, or none, so I’m not speaking out of ignorance. I’ve been appalled by the experiences of some of them, including one who did indeed have to pay for an ambulance when her mother had a stroke. Obama’s system is far from perfect, but then its not really his system, its the one he could actually get the Republicans to accept. It could have been so much better. You are being ripped off however you look at it. If you have insurance through your job you still have to pay a certain amount, and any pre-existing conditions have the potential to stop you moving to another company, for example, if you cant transfer your insurance. I also have American friends stuck in jobs they no longer want because they cant afford to lose their medical cover. We do not have that issue, because our healthcare is not linked to our job. We can switch jobs without any break in medical care, and if we become unemployed or cannot work due to illness or injury we still have healthcare. No questions asked, it’s automatic. Also prescriptions are very cheap or free, depending on where you live or your medical condition. Nobody here has to ration their insulin, their asthma inhaler, or their epi-pen, as many have to in the USA.

@eogg25

Жыл бұрын

@@ffotograffydd Yes. I was very Fortunate, but It did not just fall in my lap I went to a tech School for Electronics. while working as a laborer and then looked for a job. and finally found it., anybody could do what I did. it just takes a little effort. I had a lot of people tell me how lucky i was. I told them Exactly what I did to get it.

Universal Healthcare actually costs less than those who are insured -US has the highest costs in the world, even with coverage thanks to the profiteering

@usgreth

Жыл бұрын

The funny thing, US federal taxes spent on healthcare, not actually that different to what other countries with universal healthcare pay. US folks with insurance can be paying three times, once in taxes, again in insurance (whether outright or as part of their career's package) then an excess on top since insurance doesn't cover every single thing.

@tylerbushell2333

Жыл бұрын

If an Australian person decides to move to America and live there

@Sir.BlackHole

Жыл бұрын

remove "costs" normally are gratis.

A friend of mine worked it out. Based on the NHS annual budget, upscaled to the size of US population, the tax that the average American would pay would be about half what their insurance costs. And universal healthcare doesn't exclude pre-existing conditions.

@nicoladc89

Жыл бұрын

In Italy (one of the best countries on the Bloomberg's Health Care Efficiency index) the private+public spending on healthcare per capita is a around a half than in the US. For example, the cost of an ambulance for non-urgent transfers to the hospital (urgent transfers are always free) is 40 euros with the driver and a healthcare professional (+14€ for 2 people, +28 for 3 etc...).

I think healthcare is a human right and should be available across the globe. No company should profit from illness or death and I thank god we have the NHS.

Wow - impressive your Dad drove himself to hospital with a broken arm - crazy to us Brits that he can't rely on an ambulance service to take care of him when he's been injured

@josef596

Жыл бұрын

Having an automatic car helps

@gavindouglas3196

Жыл бұрын

We can't rely on an ambulance if you're straight white and British

@timtreefrog9646

Жыл бұрын

This is why we need to be putting pressure on gov to stop defunding the NHS.

@thepax2621

Жыл бұрын

@@josef596 Didn't he say that his "Dad" drove a *bike* , when he had the accident?🤔

Love our NHS in the UK. 7.000 pound worth of Cataract eye surgery for nothing.beat that.

@Sgt_Bill_T_Co

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully you've been paying taxes, you have haven't you?

@brendaflower7790

Жыл бұрын

@@Sgt_Bill_T_Co of course, I have paid national insurance since I was 15 years old ,that,s how it works also throughout my working life a great deal of income tax.I worked to age 67 ,two years over retirement age and my husband pays tax on his pension.So we,re all above board.

@brendaflower7790

Жыл бұрын

Gs

The thing is, the NHS isn't free. We all pay for it through our taxes. It's only free at point of use. What nobody in the USA seems to realise is that this is a so much more cost efficient way to run a health service in comparison with privatised healthcare that we all pay much less than they do for a comparable service. However, in America a public healthcare system is seen as 'socialism', which is, of course, a bad thing. I wonder why nobody ever asks why their huge military expenditure, which is, of course, paid for through their taxes, isn't seen as socialism. Perhaps they should all keep and pay for their own private defense forces.... oh wait, they do.... they're called firearms.

Being born and bred in the UK but working for a US company a long time ago, the wife had cancer twice - cost in the UK - nothing. I got diabetes - cost of tablets - nothing. Cost of blood tests - Nothing - Being ill in the UK costs you nothing its a life saver. But explaining to my American boss that we all pay a proportionate amount of tax on our pay to cover our health system with in our tax system - he didn't get it. Told me he wasn't going to pay for other people - but as me and the wife enter our autumnal years with out ill health more than paid for our treatment and the older we get the more 'free' it becomes - Great system that works.

Step dad been on home haemodialysis for 10 years (due to a genetic "pre-existing condition" of kidney failure, that he was tested for when his dad was diagnosed), US made Machine installed and maintained, supplies delivered every 3 weeks, any faults are reported back to a call centre in Mass, USA, has at least one appointment every month at hospital to check his blood composition. Zero cost throughout, NHS even reimburses the electricity to run the machine.

I’m in Scotland my aunt had a liver transplant 5 years ago on the NHS didn’t cost a penny , but she has worked her entire life and contributed to the NHS , as a family we do a lot of fund raising to give back to the NHS

I live in Prague, Czech republic and ambulance is always completely free of charge. As well as having a baby u dont pay anything. Hearing this just makes me so grateful I was not born in the US🙈🙈

I mean.... we also come together as a community and pitch in to pay for other people's health care. It's called taxes 😅😅

I live in the states now but am not an American . I know you guys are proud to say you arte but I am proud to say what I said as well. Truth is simple almost every country in the world treats their citizens better than people are treated in the US.Among an enormouslky long list of reasons for that is this one. This is the only country in the developed world where you can go bankrupt cause you got sick.

“So if you’re poor, you’re dead!” This hurts!

In Brazil there's a public health care system. It's free. It's not perfect, sometimes the wait is long, but you get hearing aids for free, treatment for tuberculosis, surgery for cataract, and so on.

@manueltapia1859

10 ай бұрын

Yes as here in México, we have paid vacations and maternity leave too!!!

Around 15 or 16 years ago we were visiting in the US. Partner is an asthmatic and had lost his inhalers. In Australia, at the time, he could get them over the counter for around $10 each. In the US, it's a doctors prescription, so a hospital visit, a prescription and $700 later.........

"So... if you are poor, you are dead?" "First world" country ladies and gentlemen

Honestly, it's only complicated in the US where money is prioritized over health. In the UK and Europe, yeah you might pay a few lbs, but whatever you need will either be free or cheap. And that is that. Simple. Amazing how simple it can be when humans health is more important than if someone can afford to live.

As a Finn, I had surgery on my spine, 5 days in the hospital etc.. 260€s.. 100€s was for the taxi there and back home.. and I got most of that taxi money back..

I am British and went to live in New Jersey where I married an American man and I stayed for 2 years. My husband would not come with me and a few months later I got a phone call to say he was in hospital then a few days later was told he passed away. Total cost for 3 weeks $44.000. If he had come back with me he would have not been charged. I often wonder why people have kids over there when it costs so much.

Here in Portugal every citizen (working or not) has the right to free healthcare. I just got a 1300€ breathing machine free of cost, installation and unlimited maintenance by a technician included. And that 2 days after an also free consultation with a specialist pneumologist.

Raising money for an ill teacher brought tears to my eyes.

@tracymcardle1236

Жыл бұрын

That made me cry, how can the USA be so stupid to not want national health care like the NHS it's the best thing the UK has

I live in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. I got an IUD this year, it only cost me $10 to purchase the device ... the multiple visits to the doctor to have it implanted were free. My mom was taken to the hospital last year in an Ambulance. This cost her $400. (My mom is doing great if anyone was concerned)

@nicoladc89

Жыл бұрын

In Italy the cost of a transfer to the hospital with an ambulance (driver and healthcare professionals) is free for urgent cases and cost 40€ for non-urgent cases.

Esses valores são uma loucura por que no Brasil, se você tem seguro você não paga pela ambulancia e se você é pobre tem o SUS e também não paga nada disso. EU NÃO ENTENDO COMO PODE O PAIS MAIS RICO DO MUNDO NÃO TER SERVIÇO DE SAÚDE GRATUITO.

A little while ago my elderly neighbour had a fall. The NHS is in a bit of a state at the moment and they didn't have an ambulance to send, so she went in a taxi and they reenbersed her for the cost.

In Germany a student pays 200 Euro for helthcare, ambulance is included, also birth and every time you go to doctor. If you stay at hospital you pay only 10 Euro per day. Btw students get BaFÖG from the state and get almost 50 % for the 200 Euro. So you pay only the half. Greetings from Hamburg 😃

@MiaMerkur

4 ай бұрын

After studying it was >500€/month in public insurance (Ersatzkrankenkasse). The men could take cheap private insurance for 220€/month for women being the Double!

I have worked in the NHS, ot as a nurse but a domestic, on A&E, no one gets charged, no one is turned away, whether you come in for mental health, drugs alcohol, or more medical issues, such as bones, heart what ever. The wait times can be long, as you are triaged. if someone comes with eart condition and your there for bleeding nose, heart goes first. the care is second to none, as being a domestic, i see all areas of A&E, from abulance hand over, to waiting rooms, to monitered care, short stay and treatment rooms. and resus my job was a soon as someone was moved from A&E, either transfered, moved to a ward od discharged, the room they were in or cubicle. we cleaned top to bottom, after covid, some tested postive, then we had do full deep clean, so the next patient was protected even on A&E there was free coffee and sanwiches for patients and coffee for thier family member on the wards, there is also 3 meals a day you pick from a menu A&E also had its own porters to get you xray, CT scans, then get you back to the room. there was also patient toilet showers, on A&E in case some soiled themslves. through no fault of there own after discharge free patient transport to get home, you may have to wait a while for that Everything i mention and i could go on is free of charge no cost, no cost if given meddication to take home

I worked for the State of Ohio. Part of my job was driving. I went in to the office and told them I felt dizzy and thought I should go home. They said, "No, go back to work!" On the way out of my supervisor's office I fainted and hit my head on the corner of his desk. He then called an ambulance to drive me across the street to the hospital and stuck me with the $1000 bill...on top of my hospital expenses.

I live in one of EU countries and I had abdominal operation this year, it was with full anesthesia and two surgeons were present because it was quite complicated, I was in the hospital for 5 days and was given strong drugs after the operation and lighter drugs other days and every day check ups, and nurses were always asking if I need something and how I was feeling. Also they did blood tests. It cost me NOTHING! The actual hospital bill was 71 EUR (31 EUR - operation, 40 EUR - hospital), but my work insurance covered that, but even if it didn't it was nothing. Also after that I went to the hospital 3 times for examination and surgeon did it for free as a mandatory check up after surgery. I can't understand how Americans live with such horrific medical bills. P.S. sorry for any mistakes, English isn't my native language

@robertknight2556

Жыл бұрын

Don't apologise. Your use of English is outstanding. P.S. Hope you are well and fit now. Robert, UK.

@owtena

Жыл бұрын

@@robertknight2556 thanks, I'm better now. Also I needed one more surgery, but it's ok now 🤗 and my second hospital bill was only 91 EUR, because I stayed there longer (they did everything to not see me again 😆) and was fully covered with my insurance 😁

@robertknight2556

Жыл бұрын

@@owtena ....We will never meet, but here at least I can say I am very happy to hear you are on the road to recovery. Keep ever well. Robert, UK

@owtena

Жыл бұрын

@@robertknight2556 thank you! 🤗

When a teacher has cancer, you raise money as a community. The teacher was lucky that many people knew him. Imagine it's not a matter of luck how well known you are and how many people know you and pay into that pot. But everyone agrees to pay a small amount into a pot and everyone in need gets help from it.

The thing is we don't even appreciate our free healthcare. I have a friend who's in late stage of cancer and I've been talking to her about her treatement for the past 4 years, and she always complained that her gas money driving to the hospital and back isn't covered. And her time isn't covered. She was like: "Yeah the treatment is free, but what about the gas money? It's 15 bucks? Whos gonna pay that? Me! What about my time? I go there, spend a day there, (Cuz chemo) come home the next day, that's a full day! Who's gonna reimburse me for that? Look at this special food I have to eat! It costs 2 bucks! I have to pay for that out of pocket! What if i didn't have 17 dolars, huh? Would they just let me die? Bastards!" And I always thought of how things where in the US and thought of how fortunate she was.

As Australian, we have Medicare and also private health cover. Yet I would say the problem in the USA, is most countries their service has some control, yet with the cost of USA there no control and anyone can charge what they like and that is why it bad in the USA.

That's the biggest difference, we never get a bill (we all prepay to contribute via automatic income tax), no threat of a bill, so we don't have the incentive not to go to Dr or hospital...

I live in Canada. My appendix burst, I had surgery and then a lot of complications and infection so I landed up staying in the hospital for roughly one month. It didn’t cost me a dime.

Even if you don’t want “free” healthcare, you need to do something about those prices.

@nurlindafsihotang49

Жыл бұрын

I mean, the f*ck is US' FDA doing? Even our corrupt ministry of health before our national insurance era, literally forced the pharma producers to produced off label medicines/generics, if not, they all get the boot. Those include phaez*rs, J&J etc. The insurance companies tried to be cute and intimidate them, most of it Prudent*al and AX*, guess what happens? Now they meekly accept generics medicines billing too..

New York Times did a great video on having people from around the world react to our healthcare system

The difference between us starting the NHS after World War II and the US now, is that we didn't give anything up, many people then simply couldn't afford healthcare so of course it was easy to get widespread support. Many people in the US are happy with the quality of care they get so they're concerned their care quality would go down or they've got to carry on paying privately plus also pay higher taxes to pay for the nationalised healthcare. Belittling those people isn't the way to go, which many have unfortunately done and created a chasm between the opposing views. It should be about finding a way to take account of those warranted concerns, division is currently being encouraged for political points - that is costing lives

I live in Denmark and going to the doctor, running tests was free. My blood pressure medication costs about 5 USD for 100 days from a generic brand, about 5 pennies a day! We pay higher taxes on paper, sure, but it is cheaper in the long run. Beyond the money, there's greater safety and peace of mind. Living in a society with a generally high standard of living is truly priceless.

No charge in Italy for ambulance and hospitalization. I had a stent installed in 2006 was dismissed after 5 days at no charge Every year I go for a check up and a eco stress test and that normally is a two day stay. No Charge In addition I get all my medicines including the anticoagulant which costs about 130 euros for 30 pills completely free of charge.. My private cardiologist normally wants 120 euros for a visit every siix months

Norway - Ambulance - 0,00 dollars - Hormonal IUD or contraceptive implant - 150 dollars - Having a child, including all the checkups before birth - 0,00 dollars - Inhalor Vetoline/Atrovent (you get them on something we call blue prescription) - 0,00 dollars - Insulin/epi pen - (blue prescription) - 0,00 dollars.

The NHS has flaws we all know this and as a former NHS nurse know where improvements need to be made. However we are very lucky to have the healthcare in the UK that we do. I now have health issues that without the NHS would be awful as I’m no longer able to work but still able to have the treatment I need

8 Days ago I spent one day in a local hospital in the UK, general anaesthetic (out cold) to have 'bleb' (fibrous growth) removed from my right eye, job done, went home after with a bagful of drops, hospital transport both ways.............charge ?.........zero !.

Whats so strange to me is that even if you are insured in the US, you still need to pay for so much and you can only go to the specific doctors and hospitals included in your plan. With my German standard traveling healthcare insurance I could travel to the US, call an ambulance, get whatever treatment at whatever hospital and every single penny will be paid for.

I`m from Uzbekistan, yes we are not rich but we still have free healthcare system. You have to pay only at the private hospitals with cash. We have no insurance system, yet we can pay the healthcare expenses at the private hospitals without any problem. BTW, the average salary is about $300 in Uzbekistan

In Australia not only childbirth is free but you also get a 'baby bonus' from the government.

@albrussell7184

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If the baby grows up to be a noisy obnoxious brat do you have to give the money back?

@elvirageronimo4604

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@@albrussell7184 NO. That's already an upbringing issue. At one time the baby bonus went to $6000. Even the Treasurer went on TV to say you must produce at least 3 kids - 1 for the country, 1 for the State, 1 for the Family! You also get tax deductions for dependent children.

Me, an English person who's studied US politics particularly around healthcare, watching these people guess incredibly under the mark: oh, you sweet summer children... Anyway, on a serious note the costs of US healthcare is honestly appalling, even more so when put in comparison with countries which do still pay for healthcare but at much lower levels and not for basically everything provided to you.... getting a bill for holding your baby, just wtf...

A number of things here, firstly everything in the US is around 3 times the UK cost, then our medical fees (National Insurance) is collected as a 'tax' direct from earnings so there aren't millions of local people collecting/billing form filling etc etc.

@richhenry8004

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We get both. Our workplace and we pay for our healthcare, and then they tax us to pay for the people who can't pay.

HI RYAN DEBBIE HERE FROM SOUTH WALES All I can say is thank God for our wonderful NHS as I am on a string on tablets for various health conditions which do not cost me one penny/cent and I have recently come out of hospital and that did not cost me anything at all. The general population pays for the NHS via taxes which are automatically taken from our pay, which we do not mind doing at all.

In Wales we don't pay for our prescribed medication. The Health care in the UK is not perfect but my family has been blessed so much by it.

The N.H.S is. Wonderful service I for one hope we never loose it 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

No need to visit Europe to meet shocked people about US healthcare costs. In America too, some neighbours are shocked. Canadians!

Ha! Had a premie (1 pound 14 ounces) and was VERY sick with preeclampsia during pregnancy, my kidneys and liver both shut down, swelled up and almost had a stroke. Flatlined during the c-section. My bill and son together was over half a million dollars in 1995, probably more than double that now. I remember one bill came for $64,000 and I just started laughing and said to myself "yeah, I'll just write you a check for that...OMG!" We filed bankruptcy, we had insurance but even with insurance our part was 20% of half a million. They had to literally cut off my wedding ring because I swelled up so badly. Husband bought me a new ring a week later, on one of our credit cards. I remember in the bankruptcy court the credit card company wanted my ring and the baby's crib back. Thankfully the judge was nice and told them no, along with a nice long rant and lecture about us not being freeloaders that we literally had jobs, medical insurance but had a medical emergency and he wasn't going to put up with their shenanigans. He used the word shenanigans. I still think fondly of that judge all these years later. Son is now 28, works as a financial analyst at a major university.

Here's an interesting question......what happens when you get a mass emergency like 9/11 and who pays for all the ambulances? In the UK an ambulance is considered one of the emergency services like police, fire department, coastguard etc. Money money money profit profit profit. It's the most inhumane and disgusting system on the planet. Even poorer countries look after their people better than the US. These rich animals should be ashamed of themselves, but they're not because shame to them is wearing the wrong shoes to a dinner gala.

It is disgusting, despicable & frankly barbaric the healthcare system in the US. For a supposedly civilised country you have absolutely no clue how to run is healthcare. The US is so motivated by money at the expense of its people. How there are still people living in the US is beyond me. It should be a case of ‘Last person to leave, turn the lights off’. Why would anyone choose to live with a system like that is beyond me. The NHS is not perfect, but as a general rule they are great in a crisis. I have an under active thyroid & get all my medication, whether thyroid related or not, for free. Yes, we pay tax, which helps fund the NHS but all countries pay tax of some description so why the US can’t have a national system is bonkers.

Im from Germany and I have a chronic illness which required medication that costs several thousands a month.. But it’s all covered by health care.. I pay zero on top of my monthly healthcare fee… If I lived in the Us, I would’ve been dead for years

@Denara1

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I would also be dead already, or at least close to it.

@X33dbv

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I think lot of people would be dead or just sicker.

@bgorg1

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It is very likely you would pay very little. I have meds that “cost” $250 per month, but after discount I get it for $6. I am self insured (I own my own small business and don’t pay for insurance out of my company). We pay relatively little for our family of 5 into a medical share program and pay for small medical bills out of pocket up to $300, then insurance covers the rest. I can negotiate cash prices. The inflation of our costs here is systematic but also because of government intervention.

@RatKindler

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Where I am in Canada we have universal health care but medications are not covered. Depending on the drug, it can be very expensive (not nearly as bad as the US though). There doesn't seem to be much polictical will to cover medications unfortunately. It cost $250 to call an ambulance where I am.

Wild to hear the ambulance cost. Here in Sweden there are a few places that do charge, but it's at a maximum like 20 dollars.

@Leenapanther

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In Switzerland we do have health insurance. But they don't cover everything. Dentists and ambulances are an example. An Ambulance costs 2500 swiss francs. Many Swiss visit a foreign country like Bulgaria, Poland or the czech republic to get their teeths fixed. My mother is considering getting a dental prosthesis. Here it would cost her 30'000 swiss francs, In poland around 9'000 - 15'000 euros

I don't know anyone who never called an ambulance for themselves or relatives or anyone else. It's an ambulance, they exists to help people, to save people lives! I called them twice for my relatives, and was near at least 5-7 times when other people called them for other people, also I myself got a ride with an ambulance twice... It blows my mind that anyone could be afraid to call an ambulance 🤯🤯🤯

One of the true measures of how great a country is can be deducted from how much the government in your country cares about the population that it's supposedly "serving" and working for. Providing "free" health care for it's own population should be at the top of any governments priorities since it's the basis for a better country with a happier and less stressed population.

It used to be quite common for American women to come to the UK for childbirth. Air flights, a month in a luxury hotel, and free childbirth under the NHS cost a lot less than childbirth in the USA. Deaths during childbirth are also significantly lower in the UK than in the US (although this is mostly the case for childbirth outside of hospitals). This became such a drain on the system, however, that the NHS was forced to institute a charge for maternity care for overseas visitors (currently £14,000).

Had a bad bloodpoisoning last a few months ago... 2 weeks in Hospital... costs were about 75000 €, I had to pay round 60 €

I can't imagine how Americans can afford all these costs (healthcare, holiday without getting money by your employer for this time, college, rents at least in NYC are insane).

Health care, like the funeral entrepreneur, is a golden trade. Getting sick and dying are certainties in life, they don't have to look for customers, they come naturally, guaranteed.

I have asthma and my inhalers for the whole year cost a lot less than that price they gave for one inhaler. 😐

@littleDutchie92

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Yep, same here!!

In Portugal, you can pay for an ambulance from the Red Cross, or the emergency services, even then it probably won't even be 100eur, , but if you call 112 (911 in america) they decide, based on the emergency if you need an ambulance with an emergency doctor, or a normal ambulance with a simple paramedic and then you don't have to pay anything there or the hospital if they get you there

YOU'RE 👏BABY 👏SHOULD 👏BE 👏 FREE👏 I could buy 3 electric guitars with that....jokes aside congrats on your baby 😃

I am Canadian, living in London Ontario. An ambulance (within the city limits) is $45.00 (if you can afford it, if not, it's free) If you live outside the city limits, and need an ambulance, there is a "premium" charge, it's an extra $5.00 (again, only if you can afford it)

Aww you’re going to have a baby ,congratulations, you need to show us your newborn so we can fawn over it ,how sweet , I love your baby’s crib so cute 🥰

As european this is nuts... I had a car accident once, called an ambulance, needed a fine hand surgery. Total cost, 0 euros.

Consider thgis one, Ryan. 4 yrs ago, an ambulance was called for me to take me to the hospital. The bill, after insurance (real Medicare here) was $1000. To take me just over 100 yards to the ER. Tell me how to rationalize that one. Please

Here, in Norway, we pay up to approximately $300 a year. If you need more healthcare after that, it's free. Babies too. Oh, and I don't think I paid after an ambulance came for me when I got a massive epileptic seizure, but I don't remember much from that, so who knows.

NHS we love you ❤❤❤❤🇬🇧😊😊😊

As someone with Athsma, hearing 250 to 350 for an inhaler make me happy to live in a civilized country where it's literaly 3,76€ and 100%refund. ;p

I have 3 autoimmune diseases, live in Croatia, and I'm at the hospital twice a week. I'd just die if I lived in the US. My medical insurance is paid by taxes and it's taken from my paycheck, around 80 dollars a month, EVERYTHING covered, operations, hospital stays, meds, doctor's visits, tests, everything. My actual healthcare expenses are much greater of course, but they're offset by healthy people paying for their insurance. I don't see a healthy person complaining for effectively paying for me to get treated in my country. I only ever see that with Americans.

I know it's superficial and maybe not appropriate but the "Shut the fridge" girl was really cute.

@slayerrocks2

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You posted my thoughts. She really is sweet.

In most EU countries, calling an ambulance for a patient's ill health, as well as giving birth to a child, is free. After all, it is included in the health insurance. I can't imagine that I should have to pay extra for health insurance if cancer insurance is to be covered, for example. Social support is also higher in Europe. The mother stays at home with a small child for 3 years, receives a social benefit from the state to stay at home and take care of the child. Putting a 3-week-old baby in daycare and going to work is a terrible idea.

the NHS should be the world standard for all

1:28 When I was at home with my 5-year old and my leg started to hurt little in the middle of the night they sent an ambulance and two first responders to check on me so that I wouldn't have to wake her up and go to the hospital and it didn't cost anything to me. And inhalers I got for free. I didn't need them, but got them anyway for a year and sent them to Ukraine to help them.

Maybe they don't understand the benefits of paying a small fee in wages covers most medical stuff

Absolutely shocked at the cost , I cannot believe it !

Had two torn miniscus operations, both keyhole and time in hospital, along with physio therapy afterwards. All done on the wonderful brilliant NHS! No charges, no insurance claims. So glad I don’t live in Murica!

I know one of my friends went to Canada for an operation saved five thousand dollars I asked him would you go there again he said in a heartbeat

You spoke over the answers so much that I missed a lot of it until I gave up and quit. However here, a local call out for an ambulance is just over $100 unless we are Friends of StJohns which is an annual $50. There was no charge for our two babies, and that is fair since each one is a goldmine for the Government to TAX for a lifetime.

My mom was just in hospital for a week before she passed. It's been a difficulty month but if I had to worry about now being hit with a bill I think I would just sit in a corner, rocking and crying. What happens in that case... do you still get billed? Does the estate or the family have to pay for it (or for what's over the insurance?). I can't even imagine.

@nurlindafsihotang49

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Yes you do. Medical debt are passed on to the surviving spouse and children.

Ryan, you wondered why we can't get to Universal Healthcare, I wonder the same thing. It would literally be one of the smartest things we could do. There is something about our country though. I just think that a fair amount of people just can't tolerate the idea that we could all be equal in anything. Perhaps it is our slavish dedication to the concept of capitalism? I do believe in capitalism, and I understand that for the sake of equality it needs to be socialized capitalism like other Western societies. Let's keep working toward it.

It is absolutely insane. I bet the first question you get asked when you enter a hospital is "do you have insurance? whereas here they ask where is the pain? People come here from other countries to take advantage of the NHS

An ambulance is 70$ here, a hospital visit is usually 20$ unless there's extra costs. But I've never heard of anyone paying more than 800$ for anything healthcare/dentist/vet related without insurance. And even then, to reach those numbers you'd have to pay for uninsured surgeries or pulling/fixing really complicated teeth. I could see someone MAYBE reaching 1300$ if it's a really complicated surgery for your pet and you don't have insurance, but that's a maybe.

Coming to the UK soon, keep voting Conservative

Good healthcare is a right, not a privilege. Private healthcare, where you have to pay for everything, is an option. But you will become a first class patient then.

Remember Medicaid varies by state. Example - Texas hasn’t opted to expand Medicaid, so the coverage is more limited in terms of who qualifies and what and how much it covers than in states that opted to expand Medicaid. Even the cost of premiums for insurance under the ACA varies by whether or not your state expanded Medicaid and whether or not the set up their own marketplace for ACA. So if you live in a red state you are really screwed in terms of medical care availability and cost.

The claims by most of those who don't want universal healthcare, is that they want the right not to be insured but mostly, they don't want to feel their taxes might pay for someone else's healthcare. The fact that may happen with insurances seems to go over their heads. Also where insurance is provided by employers, they control your healthcare and also because of that, you to large degree

@usgreth

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Their taxes already do and not just a little bit. US government in 2019 spent $1.2 trillion dollars on healthcare. UK budget in that year about £230 billion. Adjusting for population, that's pretty much the same, except we didn't get billed at all at point of treatment.