Can’t believe you posted a FaceTime with your psychologist, love it splintered

@vancouvercarpenter

2 жыл бұрын

🤣

@galvanizedgnome

2 жыл бұрын

@@vancouvercarpenter I wish they would have talked about z rollers.

@andrewstachowski3375

2 жыл бұрын

@@vancouvercarpenter bro! you taught me how to do something when i first bought my house thanks!

@erwang9823

2 жыл бұрын

Ertt

@UTCSB

2 жыл бұрын

Daddy Ben Degros wit the Phd fits

its like jesus and satan in a zoom call

@alexalb5256

2 жыл бұрын

The two ain’t that different after all 🤝

@arty712

Жыл бұрын

@ roadkill Cause we all know it’s really like the WWE; they kick it behind the scenes.

On Lurpivs: ”They are ahead of their time” ”In some ways” In most ways. Even released them before their time.

@18JR78

2 жыл бұрын

😂

@hardflip

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

@littlebear2477

2 жыл бұрын

Haha

@alexalb5256

2 жыл бұрын

The Lurpiv Paradox 🧠

Only Ben De Gros and Gifted Hater can talk about nothing but trucks for over an hour

@XanderVapulaBuehrer

2 жыл бұрын

and it's a beautiful, beautiful thing

@mukrey4k155

2 жыл бұрын

You know this is just the edited version of a 3 hour conversation about trucks to 😭

@buss1205

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshgross8741 have u ever ridden more than one truck brand?

@krispyk.1786

Жыл бұрын

@@joshgross8741 I mean wheel base and turning radius are affected by truck brand… right …?

@Rustyfingaz

Жыл бұрын

And we're hear for it

Not the collab we deserved, but the collab we needed

@i.haul.ass_

2 жыл бұрын

Nah we deserved it

@eye4eyelights

2 жыл бұрын

Not the collab we needed, but the collab we deserved.*

@basedwood

2 жыл бұрын

@@eye4eyelights nah bro ben is too powerful we puny humans don't deserve his vast galaxy brain of skate knowledge

@joedent3323

2 жыл бұрын

you are the hackneyed-cliche King. You should say the above in that ridiculous voice Christian Bale used when he's Batman. That's when he delivers his best tiresome platitudes.

THE COLLAB WE NEEDED

@Michealceraoffical

2 жыл бұрын

Why ?

@adamchik4885

2 жыл бұрын

@@Michealceraoffical why not christopher?

Gifted Hater and Ben Degros, this can’t get any better

fell asleep with my tv on and woke up to this and thought I might've been hallucinating lol

@vancouvercarpenter

2 жыл бұрын

🤣

Hey Guys, just a FYI RE: Theeve Trucks, they are very naughty. We agreed to sell them our patented BONES bushings when they began, and did so, years ago. After many months, we discovered they were not purchasing our Bushings any more, but still promoting their trucks as having Bones Bushings. After investigating, we learned that they had reproduced our bushings in China, and were representing them as originals. This caused us to sever our relationship and send them a cease and desist letter. If they are still saying that their trucks come with Bones bushing, they are lying to skaters, and if they don't ride like Bones bushings, that's' because they aren't. Some companies outright lie, cheat and steal, so beware.

@joeyschipper5770

9 ай бұрын

bones bushings suck anyways 😢

Ventures were a good £15 cheaper per set than any other truck in the UK. When you’re a kid with little to no budget, that was a big persuader.

@reecejamesvickers

2 жыл бұрын

Having to take the hangar off every time you set up a new board

@parrysmith6565

2 жыл бұрын

@@reecejamesvickers you'd think after 30+ years they'd figure out a way to make their trucks work with skate tools

@wackabug

2 жыл бұрын

​@@parrysmith6565 It's not as easy of a fix as you seem to think lol. You can't fix this issue on ventures without changing the geometry and stability, so it isn't worth it for venture to piss off the people who already like riding their trucks. It's a precise engineering problem to retain the venture feel while freeing up space around the outside bolts. Trucks are finnicky and changing geometry is dangerous for truck brand loyalty. Copying others or attempting to conform to a standard is a big nono, because people WILL NOT CARE if you are yet another indy clone with worse turn. They're just gonna ride what they already like if you change your geometry and blow it. Gotta stand out somehow (IMO ventures do this by having a lot more baseplate/weight beyond the bolt holes compared to other brands which gives them heavy kicks with a ton of pop, as well as hella stability)

@cv6531

2 жыл бұрын

@@parrysmith6565 they kind of figured it out with the lows. You have to pre-thread the bolt first and itll scratch paint but it works.

@soydave1988

2 жыл бұрын

@@parrysmith6565 use a Spitfire skate tool. Works for Ventures, Thunders, Indys, everything just fine

"I dont like different, It gives me feeling's and I dont want to have feeling's " - Ben Degros such a real voice during these times

love ben degros, hes the perfect person for this tier list lol

Absolutely devious of you to do this

the best part of this video is at 43:27 where when he types Royal Trucks into google a rolling garbage bin pops up

The perfect collab doesn’t exi- 😳😳😳

@welitty6132

2 жыл бұрын

u right its me and your mom

@Michael_Wede

2 жыл бұрын

@@welitty6132 destruction

@dbsuper2928

2 жыл бұрын

BBQ chicken

ive skated thunders my entire skate career and on top of grinding perfect the way thunders make riding a skateboard feels, stepping on my friends indy setups but they feel like a soggy waffle

@V3RT1C0N

2 жыл бұрын

Indys have this weird like lag to their turns I swear thunders just feel so smooth and surfy

@dylanfuller8146

2 жыл бұрын

Yup I’ve always skated thunders and probably always will.

@jeffli480

2 жыл бұрын

That’s not possible….the thunder baseplate reinforces the tail about 1/2” inch less than Indy’s. If you go back to back on the same board, the kicks with thunder will feel more soggy/flex comparatively.

@sgodraw

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeffli480 im talking about when you roll around on a skateboard with indy trucks, it literally feels like youre pushing a wet sponge around

@Unfriggginbelievable

2 жыл бұрын

@@sgodraw j

It’s a good thing that Ben is such an honest, upright guy, because in a sea of California voices, him and his Vancouver accent could convince me to buy anything.

as someone who skates Thunders religiously i was so confused about how they didn’t get brought up until 52:37 lmao

@d_trick89

Жыл бұрын

I’m confused by Ben’s comment about thunder trucks, where he says 149’s are lower than 147’s, aren’t 147’s lower as they are a shorter axel?

@yesmaybe630

Жыл бұрын

@@d_trick89the axle doesn’t determine the height of the truck. Go to the website it has all the measurements pretty much team thunder are 52mm high and titanium and forged hollow are 51mm high in all sizes 8 inch and up

@badlandssocialclub

10 ай бұрын

Ok thanks, I'm at 48:42 and almost freaking out about Thunder not being listed/mentioned. Had to check the comments… It's like having the goat debate and not mentioning Lebron. He's not the goat, but he's up there and obviously has to be discussed.

One hour video on a video with no ads and now revenue, true hero of the skate community. Keep up the work we love you.

the legends. the combo. the counterpart to youtube skater bullshit content

Glad to see the classic indy come out on top, even after all the methodical breakdowns and benefits of everything else. Some trucks may do specific things better, but only the indy does everything well.

I went from Krux to Indie Hollows and it took me a couple of weeks to get used to being able to turn so sharply (that and finding the right combo of bushings that didn't instantly split under my fat ass). I still use my Krux and find them fine. They might be designed for the heavier-than-average skater or something.

@I4k_au

2 жыл бұрын

Not k4s tho right

@joedent3323

2 жыл бұрын

Tru Dat Niggz.

@Spurgte

2 жыл бұрын

@@joedent3323 your white shut 😭

@Spelonker

2 жыл бұрын

@@I4k_au Actually not sure. They could be k5s because I got them as part of a complete loadout July last year.

@johnmeehan7884

2 жыл бұрын

@@Spurgte Make sense, butt boy

Watch both of you a lot and genuinely enjoy hearing Ben on a more silly tip. This video was super great.

1 hour with big daddy degros OMG poggers

2:59 You definitely meant Zach Dowdy. I believe Zach Doelling skates for minilogo trucks or something lol

@giftedhater3087

2 жыл бұрын

Whoops lol

@18JR78

2 жыл бұрын

Zach Doelling skates loose trucks

@samlucas8597

2 жыл бұрын

@@18JR78 oh really, my bad.

Bruh. Ben. Vancouver Carpenter. OG of OG's.

Oh man Ben degros has held me down this past year of me learning to skateboard. Glad you guys got together!

Those exact venture lows you pulled up are literally the only ventures I actually loved cause venture highs are a weird grind. I also loved Silvers with the thread protectors on them, hated destructos, am now a die hard indy hollow fan. All five setups Indy’s, one with mindys but they’re too heavy

Regarding Ace turns, they now have hard bushing that are 94A so the stability is way better on those than standard bushings. Hope more people can try those out!

I need this in podcast form every 7 days, thankyou.

You and Ben could be 9 club status if you started a podcast.

@dadboard

2 жыл бұрын

The nine club did its thing for years and it was and can still be great, but goddamn the “experience” show is so cringy and useless these days, and the regular show is running out of interesting guests, at least to me. It’s like 1 out of 10 episodes I’m somewhat hyped on the guest. If Hater and Ben did a podcast I’d be there no question.

@galvanizedgnome

Жыл бұрын

Nine club has been done since 2019

@Reladan187

5 ай бұрын

While I agree with you, this would be better. Nine club is running with the same fumes pretty much, and while I have zero things against the dudes that are running it, they are not that interesting and kind of bland

My favorite dudes on KZread in 1 video. Sick!

I think it's worth mentioning that the GK distruptor kingpins snap in half. I had 2 pairs and 3 of my kingpins broke, it's apparently something that happens often enough that they offer to send replacement kingpins. After it sent me mid-bowl run I kinda replied with "Sorry I don't feel safe riding these"

@freehammerskateboarding488

2 жыл бұрын

Same thing happened to me. I tried to get a replacement but they never actually sent it.

@j-mac7401

2 жыл бұрын

Damn it!!! I just put a set on my thunders...

@pmstuff8420

2 жыл бұрын

@@j-mac7401 as long as you don't skate your trucks too hard or skate bowl or vert you should be fine, otherwise I can't recommend you skating them :(

@j-mac7401

2 жыл бұрын

@@pmstuff8420 well I guess I'm gonna put them on a cruiser board. I was stoked to use them for slappys but the advice you have given me sounds as though they are not strong enough for that kind of impact ... Appreciate the advice brotha...

@pmstuff8420

2 жыл бұрын

@@j-mac7401 Slappys sound like they would be perfect with the low kingpin but unfortunately I just can't recommend it. As long as you're not doing any hard carving on that cruiser you should be pretty safe though!

This give me hope for the future of skateboarding on KZread. Well done all involved, everything said was on the money.

Are you kidding me. What an incredible video for someone in a truck craze. Plus the 2 best youtubers. Thanks guys

@joe.nail1

2 жыл бұрын

So have u found your perfect truck yet

@onthespectrum69

10 ай бұрын

never @@joe.nail1

@mooncalf_4534

8 ай бұрын

@@joe.nail1 Ford Raptor baby

Might as well start a podcast ngl

@dneck

2 жыл бұрын

plz

I can definitely vouch for mini-logo trucks. Honestly some of the best feeling trucks I’ve ever skated

Love the synergy between you two. Side note: I remember when I was 12 I had my first real board, a black label green elephant deck and a set of Webb trucks. Best looking trucks ever, they were yellow and they looked so awesome. Good talk from both of you! One Love!

I love the Aera feature lol, lets not forget the DH scene. We pay 600 for a set of trucks. And still go on to spend 200 bucks on bushings. No I'm not joking.

I started skating in 1995. Indys were always the best. We used to get Destructos for free from the shop rep. They were fine back in 1999. Grind Kings were always the most expensive trucks or close to it. My friend rode for them and Grind King Skateboards, which was effectively just a continuation of Society Skateboards. The kingpins on Grind Kings would back out or dig into your board if you threaded them in too tight. That wasn't a problem for Daewon who kept them relevant for a lot of years. Trackers were always the bottom of the barrel and cheapest trucks at the shop. Orions were one of the few trucks I actually broke back in the day -- like the hanger and the kingpin. Just horrible trucks that were kept alive by a great team, which included (if I remember correctly) Kalis, Dyrdek, Koston and Berra (before he was so maligned). I never liked Ventures, but the older guys form the early '90s did as they were genuinely lighter than the rest. There were other dodgy trucks from the '90s. Titan trucks actually sold for more than Grind Kings, but were terrible. Recently, I got a pair of the newer Indys with the kingpin that threads into the base plate. They were given to me. They're horrible unless you like the Matt Rodriguez loose-truck approach. You've got to blue Locktit the kingpin if you want it to not back out. I skated with a few people on companies like Royal who'd ride Indys undercover. Long story short, Indys or Thunders. That's the conclusion I've come to after 27 years riding a skateboard.

@A.D.D.O.C.D.T

11 ай бұрын

You pulled out some good names there 🤘 I forgot about silver ,grind king and titan trucks.

Mini Logo? I heard they're good. Like really good. Too good. Send them to the dungeons! 🙃

Epic collab. I needed this in my life. I think the weight savings of the Indy Titaniums have more of a place on 159s-169s. I skate 159s on an 8.75 and the Titaniums feel right. Gotta say those Mini Logos turn great, not heavy, pinch and grind great but umm yeah...

Thank you Ben, for coming on and sharing your wisdom about trucks with Joa and I, and everyone else.

Sitting at home with Covid and your videos help me keeping my head up and getting stoked for skating after i feel ok again. thank you!

Titanium will never work for grinding. In the knife industry with high end Titanium liner lock knives they always put a steel lockbar insert where the Titanium would meet the steel blade so it doesn't stick. Titanium is notoriously sticky against steel and there's no way around it. My ZT 0562ti full Titanium edition has the steel lockbar which makes it buttery smooth when unlocking. Titanium is even kinda sticky in the hand as well. So it's kinda surprising they made a full Titanium truck meant to grind against steel rails when it's widely known it sticks so badly against other metals. They're gonna have to put a layer of steel or something on top of the truck, or blended with the Titanium(though that's very expensive and difficult to do, ie Timascus) or it'll never work. It's probably just way to expensive and difficult to ever work in a truck.

@mattstevenson1334

2 жыл бұрын

That's pretty interesting

@zacherynoland8395

2 жыл бұрын

It’s just the axel and kingpin that are titanium. The rest of the truck is cast like a normal Indy

@matiasgermanenrique2089

2 жыл бұрын

@@zacherynoland8395 He's probably talking about the theeves TiH. Also, apparently it grinds great on ledges, so maybe they're better suited for a street tech skater

Ben’s coughing sound effect gave me new life.

The most legendary and important collab of all time i stg 🙏🏽🖤

Hearing Ben say dude it’s exactly like a cyber truck made my year

When Ben speaks we listen

Missed opportunity not discussing the Grind King Kreper truck. Truly the Frankenstein of the truck world.

@TrevorCanToo

Жыл бұрын

Just looked them up and holly fuck

Ben was spot on about Venture lows in the 90s. Best truck ever has to be the Tensor Maglight ATG.

NO WAY LMAOOOOO THE crossover is insane acc smiled seeing the thumbnail for this just recenty came across your channel but been a longtime fan of Bens, glad this happened

So gassed that Ben degros gave tensors some props, the regular atgs are so nice to ride

@KevinNiceTry

2 жыл бұрын

I wish they would make the mag light without hollow kingpins and axels. I love the grind of the magnesium. No wax, no problem. Haha.

As someone who’s currently in the midst of truck madness, both you and Ben will be getting a bill from my shrink.

dude i love this collab so so much my favorite youtubers in one vid. sick man

I'm a subscriber of both of them, always great content. Happy that these two made this video together..

Mini Logo is a decent truck damnit! I need a nap after watching the video....

I loved every second of this.

I remember copping a pair of grind kings when I was a kid that held the nut in place so you only need a screw driver for the bolts. I loved those trucks 😂

I had a pair of Destructos when they first first came out and they were the only trucks that I’ve ever broken a baseplate on

KRUX should be a tier lower than Lethal Injection imo

@slimeslime2123

2 жыл бұрын

Lez karnt

WE NEEDED THIS

I’ve only ever skated ventures and thunders and I’m not really even good enough to care but I’m still fully enjoying this long form content.

This is way more fun to watch than it has any right to. Loved it

40 min in and I'm like wow I've watched this for 40 min. My two faves, naughty and nice... Glad this collab became a thing.

Pulled a Mikey Taylor 😂 shout out Bennett for inspiring all these trucks! This was great.

@caseycameron5370

2 жыл бұрын

I watch all ya videos that tip for tail block was invaluable so thankyou sir all the way from Australia 🤙

this is the video im referencing from now on regarding trucks, thank you benny and the jets

Totally agree on the Krux talk. I used to ride them a lot and didn't realize how bad the turn was until I tried other trucks. The inverted kingpin ones were particularly bad. The kingpin would get loose and when you leaned to turn, the kingpin would lean the opposite way, changing the geometry in a way that made the turn even worse, really awful. My cruiser board always catches all the wack parts i've tried... Lithe board, non-abrasive grip, Avenue trucks. When should we schedule my injection? To be fair to the Avenues, they do smooth out riding on rough ground, but I wouldn't put them on a board I intend to do tricks on. OG aces are all I need.

This has to be the only skateboarding related video EVER to include the word 'porous'

Ayo Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro!

this whole video was so endearing, love u guys

Rode destructo's in the early 2000's and they were amazing

I skated some Krux briefly in the early 2000's after getting them from a friend, after breaking my trucks. I remember being confused by how loose they were, but they didn't really turn much. Had to tick-tack like a MF with those. They were pretty tall too, but they could grind. Glad to hear nothing's changed, lol. That hole is so enticing, though.

@oopsydaizi3s824

Жыл бұрын

I bought krux trucks just to see what the hole did. Turns out it was a bottle opener

My two favorite skate youtubers collaborate, amazing! I love the grind of tensors but they are light and take a lot of adjustment. I wish they made the mag light without hollow axels and kingpins. It would make them a touch heavier and stronger. They turn great in my opinion and one of the best for manuals. Plus I like being in the naughty category haha.

The fact that I’ve been looking at trucks all week so I can get new ones today 🤣 and then I see this video

Thunder Lights are god teir for flatground, prefer them to Venture Lows, Tensor Mag Lights, Mini Logos and Aces. Great VIdeo, the Gifted Hater X Ben Degro-lab is what the skate world needed.

The chemistry between these two🥰

7:31 xDDDD, I'm European and that was funny as fuck. Well done Hater.

I could listen to ben talk about skate equipment for hours lmao

I gotta say, the Grind King Disruptors are pretty fuckin awesome. Deserve to be higher on this list. Although I did change out the bushings.

@Scharfster

2 ай бұрын

I agree, I also did the same too lol

So much sexual tension

hiftedgater blessed us today

With Avenue Trucks I agree with Ben that they should be in longboard shops for cruising. I found them to be a little bit wobbly but if you have tired out of shape old legs and just want to push around on gnarly concrete they feel very very good.

This is the best KZread vid I haven't watched yet. Can't bloody wait!

I went and spent every lost dollar I had for rent to buy a new phone just to watch gifted hater on

Where is Fury trucks?

Thunders with bones hardcore bushings are perfection.

I had a pair of Orions in the mid 90s. they were my favorite truck at the time. They didn't always have the same hanger. They were closer to the ACE look is now in the 90s

Monster trucks, Titan Ti lights, destructos, Fury, Webbs

Thank you to Ben for coming on and sharing uh his wisdom about, about trucks with me and everybody else who’s made it this far into what will probably be biblical length youtube video ummm.

I broke a royals base plate on flat as a kid . Went to the skate shop and they gave me another one. Half cabbed off a 3 foot dock and broke another one. I did not ask for a replacement after that. Thunder hollows for life

@jedlynch4820

2 жыл бұрын

My current pair are 3 years old and should last another 2 years of heavy grinding.

dude, after watching your lurpiv review, i was always been worried about the self-loosening bits of the trucks, but you know what worse had happened last weekend, i was having a sesh with the homies and suddenly my front lurpiv truck flew out of my board and at that time i thought like no, god, my truck is unscrewed itself, just like GF's in his preview video, unanticipatedly when i took a closer look of the kingpin , it was absolutely SNAPPED in HALF!!!! but i didnt worry much at that time cos i thought everyone saying that lurpiv got the best custom service, so i tried to email about the broken KingPin issue. i wrote a long paragraph abouut it., also mentioned i'm from China, when i first ordered the trucks it took like ab0ut 3 weeks to get shipped, intentionally i didnt even care if they gonna send me a new kingpin or not, cos i knew it was def not worthy shipping a non inverted kingpin to China by paying xx dollars. and then i got an mail replied saying: "Hello Touie, We will send new non-inverted kingpins by mail Lurpiv sales" it makes me feel like they didnt even read through my email that took me an hour to think and write, i dont want to post anything here to do anything bad about Oski's brand feature, cos i respect him so much and adore his skating, but i really felt offensed by such respond, totally not happy about it

I agree 💯 about Krux in lethal injection the worst trucks is history ... Holy shit ...

@npeelee

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, I broke the kingpin while being a beginner learning how to skate lol

@jouhajohnny

2 жыл бұрын

@@npeelee Hahaha no way

Thunder gang ⚡️

All these bottom trucks have nothing on Element trucks. When I first started skating Element was huge so I wanted everything with that logo. Yes,even the trucks... The guy working at the skateshop straigh up tells me to not buy these. He's trying to push me away from them but I was determined to be all Element head to toe. The next day I go skating and the front trucks literarly splits in two pieaces lol. I was a skinny kid,skating flatgrant and they exploded on me.

This was incredible, what a great collab!

You should expand your tier list format to other similar ideas… like venn diagrams

NO WAY. BEN IS MY FATHER

Ben sitting in the back of a church

On titaniums…NHS is dope. I bought some DLK krux trucks and after a summer I had bent the axles. Emailed NHS with pictures and receipts. The dude (I think his name was Aaron) called me from cali! We talked for about half an hr lol. He asked me if I liked the krux and I said I didn’t so to replace them he offered me Indy titaniums. Those cost double what the krux did. Great experience as a customer lol. Love the Indy’s