TRT Dosing And Frequency Breakdown With Dr. Peter Attia
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I say run a iv and walk with a slow drip 24/7
@dontyouworryaboutit_
29 күн бұрын
run it straight into your sack
@scott8934
29 күн бұрын
Bane was onto something walking around with all them tubes
@davidbrown4271
29 күн бұрын
Nailed it
@benjaminstott
29 күн бұрын
That’s what I do! lol
@Flubyu
29 күн бұрын
😂
i miss the non podcast videos
@MorePlatesMoreDates
29 күн бұрын
Working on it broheimifus. Been getting some out here and there, will crank up the frequency progressively. Titrating the videos.
@TheOneMastodon
29 күн бұрын
@@MorePlatesMoreDates Supraphysiologically adequate response, Derek. Have an efficacious thumbs up emoji click react from me, big delt bro.
@maihaus1987
29 күн бұрын
@@TheOneMastodonyou are so cringe
@aquatist
29 күн бұрын
@@maihaus1987went over your head
@Instareels50099
29 күн бұрын
@@TheOneMastodon ong 😂
Very helpful content, I was just going over this with my brother today. Talking about subcutaneous vs intermuscular and every other day shots. thanks for the clarification !
Saw you’re responding to comments. Just wanted to say I’m grateful for the educational and engaging content! 💪
What I’m hearing is the most efficacious dose schedule of cyp and enth is a frequency once every three days (dose day 1, no dose day 2 & 3, dose day 4). The problem with higher frequencies being getting an effective enough dose (unless your on a SUPRAPHYSIOLOGIC cycle), the pain in the ass of doing it all the time and having to purchase and dispose of a ridiculous amount of needles and syringes.
@ytsux9259
22 күн бұрын
I have a Supra. Does it count?
@kaylonsinghurst
22 күн бұрын
needles are cheap at liquidation outlet, but i feel you. the problem i find is the scary tissue and lumps, etc.
@Dansal1980
15 күн бұрын
I’ve been doing it for nearly 3 years using insulin syringes. It’s really not a pain at all
golden knowledge here thank you
This video is a good discussion about Testosterone injection type and frequency that you don't otherwise hear about, and it is understandable to the average guy on TRT.
Even though I was lost with most of this terminology, I still enjoyed the hell out of this vid!❤ 💪
What's your thoughts on the TRT pellets?? Would that dosing be better than pinning once a week or more. "STEADY ABSORPTION"?
"Blast you with a hammer of test" could be lyrics of a metal song
Derek sounds like an endocrinologist. His knowledge on this topic on hormones is fascinating
@DanielBrown-nj3th
21 күн бұрын
Endos are ridiculously stupid and are by the book and know less than me. I’ve walked out on several endos because they are so stupid and also prescribe toxic statins and have no clue what they are derived from.
Is 476 mIU/L prolactin really high? Currently have no libido. Would taking b6 p5p be enough to lower this or would i need cabergoline ?
What are your thoughts on the pellets compared to injections?
MPMD 💪
His podcast is legit. Highly recommend!
Hey Derek - HUGE fan of both this channel and your other one. I'm a former PED user who has been off the sauce for 3 years and is now trying to prove to young folks that you can come off the sauce, focus on your diet and training, prioritize your health, and still make massive progress. I'm sick and tired of seeing young people destroy their bodies and having to watch my beloved gym culture disintegrate into this abomination. If this idea is at all interesting to you, it would mean the world to me if you checked out my latest video, and maybe shared a bit of it in your next video here. If you do see this, thanks for taking the time to read it and for being one of the last bastions of sanity in this lil' fitness community.
@marken816
25 күн бұрын
What is Derek's other one?
How can we compare/evaluate blood work pinning daily compared to pinning weekly? Surely the trough of a weekly dose will be much lower than the trough of a daily dose, assuming bloods are taken just before the dose that day?
The Boss is back
@blasvillanueva7195
27 күн бұрын
Ikr I was thinking the same thing.
How do you feel about products like Biote that leverage the pellet technology for those that don't like the frequent needles?
Good stuff. TRT has become so in vogue now it’s almost expected, but still so much info to get out about dosing, frequency, bloods. Otherwise it’s like “yeah man I’m on 300mg of sports TRT” 😂
Derek how much ml you pin daily?
Derek drops this bomb, Will Tennyson is asking people at the gym if they are on steroids and Andy Galpin gives workout advice, ALL IN ONE DAY!
@sk8orhate55
29 күн бұрын
?
My dr has me doing it 4 times a week to more mimic natural testosterone production. I don’t mind doing it. Except when I do inject it leaves a bump for sometime. Curious if others deal with this
I miss the tren story time days, that was my fav..... bring Tren Story Time back!
Anecdotal here: I find that even going from 1 injection every 3 days to doing the same amount but in every other day gives me a lot more of an even level and much more consistent therapeutic effect, and I don't feel the ride of it going up and down. I'd pin every day, but my endocrinologist isn't a fan due to red blood cell count.
You need to talk with DR Rand McLain .
I guess what I don't understand is that there seems to be real benefit to microdosing like that. It would be cool if for like a type one diabetic there was a pump for trt. Something g that just monitored it, and when you are low, it just gave you a boost.
Has anyone used Derek’s TRT clinic? I’m already on TRT with a Urologist overseeing it. Not happy with him at all. Doesn’t even ask me how I’m feeling or anything when I go for follow ups. How would it work if I was going to switch my care over? Guessing it’s all paid out of pocket and insurance wouldn’t cover it. But assuming I’m fine with that.. how long does it take to get started? I’m 39 and I’d rather get dialed in and optimized now rather than be managed by a dude who doesn’t give a shit whatsoever about teaching me what I’m doing or making sure I’m actually dialed in or feeling good.
@MorePlatesMoreDates
29 күн бұрын
I would highly recommend booking a discovery call: bit.ly/4cgoy0E The call is free, and you can ask in detail how the switch would hypothetically go, how our team would handle your blood work and analysis, treatment, etc. In the meantime, you can check out some of our reviews here: www.trustpilot.com/review/marekhealth.com Also, you are correct regarding insurance coverage.
@alestevez950
29 күн бұрын
@@MorePlatesMoreDateshow’s this call different from the intake call on the website? I had my first consultation and paid $250.
@brandolifts7928
29 күн бұрын
I use Marek Health for my TRT and I couldn't say enough good things about them. They are not super uptight and I've had two different health coaches now and both have been straight up bros. I think it is a tad bit more pricey than other clinics but it's totally worth it with the added knowledge they have and the freedom they give you.
@marekhealth
28 күн бұрын
@@alestevez950 The discovery call is a free 15-minute call with our customer care team to help answer general questions about Marek Health and determine if we are the best fit for your needs. If we are the best fit, we can help individuals sign up for our services after the call. The intake call with a health coach takes place after joining Marek and paying the $250. This call is for reviewing your health history and goals, and ordering the necessary lab work for your unique state of health. Those on this call have already joined our services. We hope that helps clear up the confusion!
@marekhealth
28 күн бұрын
@@brandolifts7928Thank you so much for the kind words. We’re happy to hear you’re enjoying your experience with our team 💪🏻
Derek beard game is on point
For the example used on 7:30, instead of having gyneco, having anxiety per instance, instead of lowering the dosage I should spread into 3x then? I have tried 2x weekly and anxiety persisted!
@LoveFactorySweatShop
14 күн бұрын
increase injections frequency AND lower dose. Believe it or not, too much Test (but mainly DHT) gives you anxiety.
Affording the proper management is a key problem, the T isn't expensive but hiring a dude to guide you and the diagnostics ramps up quickly to unfeasible for most people and I would assume thats the main thing that catches people out into just dropping a pin once a week so they don't have to think about it(they think) and don't have to pay someone to think about it or to validate through repeated lab work to check
I use to do daily , but it was a pain doing it everyday. I prefer once a week for ease.
I am so unsure why you call compounding dark. It works great with creams
I appreciate this discussion. I'm currently on 100mg of test cypionate a week (0.5ml) and will now go to bi weekly 0.25ml to see if it will help with my acne I've suffered from.
I’m on 1mg of finasteride right now, use minoxidil daily and derma roll weekly and have been for almost two years, and I’m still seeing recession. If I replace my fin for 0.5mg of dutasteride daily will I go through a shedding period or is it fine??
@Kris_stoff
23 күн бұрын
Accept your fate get Jacked
what about oral testosterone twice a day, any studies or advice on that.
@osmanhadzalic9060
22 күн бұрын
Very bad for the liver
So... what happens with the every 3-months Testosterone shots, like Nebido ?
@user-ti9zc1xv2b
28 күн бұрын
depressions will hit you Hard
@luchoportuano2829
28 күн бұрын
@@user-ti9zc1xv2b ...That's a myth that has been debunked many times. Depressions depend on so many factors. Thanks for your Bro-science though. Bro.
coach greg just ripping into you on his new video hah guys went wild
bro done posted the whole podcast in 5 minute chunks
I just started I'm 50, it's wonderful...results immediately... yay
Derek when interview Lord Cresva?
I originally started TRT with injecting once every 7 days. Then Monday-Thursday Then M,W,F Then tried a twice a day cream. The cream was great but my estrogen dropped a lot. Not in a good way. Changed back to injections daily using insulin needle SUB-Q. This is the most stable feedback to date. No peek swings with estrogen, no dips in androgen effects either. I do miss the M-T effects, I always felt like a big hit of overdrive sex drive, but don’t miss swings with estrogen.
Ive been pinning 60mg 3x a week (180mg), MWF, in my delts. I alternate the delt each time. Seems fine.
@chrisroe77
19 күн бұрын
That's a lot of scar tissue accumulation over years. consider ventroglues for another intramuscular site or try subcutaneous injections. Just a thought to ponder.
@joeshmoe12301230
9 күн бұрын
@@chrisroe77also, I found that I got acne on my shoulder/back when injecting in my shoulders. Acne disappeared when I switched to the glutes. I think it’s that the oil lingers in the shoulder area and causes acne. Just my experience though…
@joeshmoe12301230
9 күн бұрын
@@l337z0r have you been doing that since you started? My Dr said to 200mg once a week (test cyp). I felt that doing 100mg twice a week would be better and keep me at a more constant level. Then I got tired of doing it twice a week so I tried 200mg once a week. I actually felt zero difference. Also, a standard syringe wastes 0.1ml because of the liquid in the hub area (where the needle attaches). So over the course a bottle, I was wasting almost 2ml. So doing one shot a week was only wasting about 1ml.
you should donate blood if hamatocrite is over 50? How accurately test it? cause afiak its very dependant on liquid intake.
@johnnyringo35
29 күн бұрын
Except once over 50 most donation centers won't accept your blood. Have to get therapeutic phlebotomies at that point.....and pay out of pocket as most insurance companies do not pay for such.
@lpdc5911
28 күн бұрын
Not particularly
I’m 90mg a week (3x/week) and still have slight high estro side effects. Any advice?
@shakeandbakert2737
27 күн бұрын
Maybe try supplementing with DIM and see if that helps any
Derek looking like Russell Crowe
@Stellar-Cowboy
29 күн бұрын
Grandma put your glasses back on
@bradfordlangston836
29 күн бұрын
Russell Crowe right now?
@Hugh.G.Rection.
29 күн бұрын
Russel Grow
@andrewboyko91
29 күн бұрын
@@bradfordlangston836 I won't do him dirty like that..... but its close :)
@Kris_stoff
23 күн бұрын
Are you not entertained ??!!
Hey just some feedback, this video feels like it’s meant for a professional, not very beginner friendly. I think it would be helpful to describe what the terms you are using mean for example.
@johngoff8350
28 күн бұрын
He has about 1800 videos on his channel More Plates More Dates. Highly recommend going there and scrolling to see if you can find what you’re looking for
@PlebiteBaller
24 күн бұрын
it's not professional lol. if you start using TRT you should be read up on the simple terminology here. Otherwise dont do it.
Derek I thought on one of your videos a few years ago you tried subq and your levels dropped?
I was on every two weeks and I felt awful. I went to weekly on my own. But I’m going to switch to twice a week after watching this.
My endo originally proscribed once every two week doses for TRT, i managed to convince her to let me do weekly doses - i've been thinking about twice a week doses and am hoping i can convince her to let me do so. additionally she proscribed a low 50mg Test C once a week. even in Dr Peter's example of 15mg daily that is 105mg weekly... hoping to get that amount up from 50mg because i definitely notice a drop in energy after only a few days.
Is subcue the same as the testopel pellets?
@sdean4816
27 күн бұрын
No
I wish i had a Dr like this! My urologist prescribed me the zyosted i liked the auto injector but it was to expensive at $150 a month so i had him switch me to cyp. He prescribed 200mgs in one shot every 2 weeks. I split it into 100mg a week though. When I get new insurance I'm going to go to a clinic.
@rcf3773
29 күн бұрын
I use Trt Nation they give me 200 mg a week and it's only $100.00 a month
@30rdmaga
29 күн бұрын
@@rcf3773 Do you pick it up at a pharmacy or do they mail it to you?
i been with the endocrinologist for over 2 years, spent a long time on testogel 40.5 mg. Didnt help at all…. Recently been prescribed sustanon 250 mg one injection every 3 weeks!!!! i noticed the change for me personally with regards to my gym strength and libido much better, HOWEVER. into the 2nd week i crashes due to the shelf life of course, So i requested to come off sustanon or have it more frequently!!! They said no. Had an appointment today to go over everything with myself, The end result is now im back on sustanon, along with the gels to help maintain my levels…. We shall see. Cocktail of TRT.
Isn't there a TRT patch that's times released so you can avoid all this ?
Based and Enanthatepilled
@garrett3726
29 күн бұрын
Supraphysiological dose
@panicbuyflax3461
29 күн бұрын
Cypionate-pilled soyjack, here😔
Isnt that different with Sustanon with 4 different esthers?
Crank it to the stratosphere 😂
Derek, ashwagandha worth taking? Ik you’re a busy man and I trust your insight so a yes or no is fine, don’t need to explain your thought process if you don’t want to. Thanks !
@Cheximus
28 күн бұрын
Derek doesn't reply to comments. And no, it's not worth taking. Just makes you drowsy and lazy and I imagine most of us don't need something else to be dependent on.
What happens if I pin 1mg of test?
how do poeple deal with the pain after glute intramuscular injections , im finding that up to 3/4 days afterwards my glute is still sore and somtimes even reduced mobility . does anyone have some advice ? currently taking test e every 5 days to try and reduce the pain from shots but now wondering if i should go back to every 3.5 days
@williamchase5698
26 күн бұрын
29ga 1/2" needle in my delt ....
@Thegrassman284
25 күн бұрын
Subq on the hip every three days so just divide what you take a week and pin 2 times a week.
Anywhere I can get professional TRT in the EU? We seem to be decades behind north america. For god's sake the standars perscription here is still for super long esthers that inject once every 3 months or some shit. If you can even get that in the first place. It's bonkers.
need a Togi video Delt Lord
I'm one of those guys on the sustanon trt in the UK you almost spoke about. They would only start me at 1ml every 4 weeks for 3 months then my levels were still low (4.8nmol/l) on morning of injection day. The NHS endo was trying to push me onto nebido and I refused due to the horror stories of that shit and I have to self pin due to potentially being out of the country with work. He finally agreed to reduce my injection Freq to 3 weeks but I'm still struggling man, 7 days out I'm symptomatic and by the time I'm 3-4 days from injecting I'm fucked, no energy, mood swings and irritable as fuck and I hate it. Did my levels again and they are still below 5nmol/L at the three weeks point. I have my next appointment with the endo start of July and have no idea wtf is going to happen. The NHS just feels clueless at this shit, they haven't even done bloods after I inject to see how much I'm spiking as per the dose and when I question shit you can imagine the response.... If this next appointment doesn't go well I'm gonna bite the bullet and goto a private clinic as that's the only way to legally get access to test cyp or enanthate even tho it will be over £100 per month, but at this point if it gets me stable it's worth it 😢
@andrewskaife8447
29 күн бұрын
Hey mate, I’ve been using Sustanon now for just short of 2 years, 0.3ml twice per week, feel amazing. NHS said my levels were fine at around 8-9nmol/l so I went private with balance my hormones in the UK. £120 a month to feel amazing, worth every penny! Any questions, just let me know 👍🏼
@jamiebuyers
29 күн бұрын
@@andrewskaife8447 thanks mate, good to know and glad it's working for you! This peaks and troughs they have me going through is fucking brutal real close to binning the NHS. Will see what they say in July then go from there. You have any sides from dosing twice a week with Sus?
@Cheximus
28 күн бұрын
@@andrewskaife8447 Do you get HCG with that £120? Which test? £120 isn't too bad.
@andrewskaife8447
28 күн бұрын
@@Cheximus I didn’t go for HCG, what to keep things to a minimum, plus I’ve had kids, so not bothered if everything shuts down 😂 I use Sustanon, 0.3ml twice per week, I’ve been lucky, worked a treat from day one and didn’t have to adjust the dose at all!
@Cheximus
28 күн бұрын
@@andrewskaife8447 Hmm interesting. I heard HCG isn't just about kids though, but I could be wrong. Keeps your nuts a decent size, not sure I'd want mine to completely vanish. Thanks for the insight though.
Where’s the best place to inject intramuscularly to optimize effects
@Sr82.
29 күн бұрын
Glutes chest lats and delts . Do not do the quads . . Trust me
Why isn't undecanoate more common? It's so easy to get stable levels from it
What the hell was that at 11:17 😂😂😂
@MorePlatesMoreDates
29 күн бұрын
The Matrix glitched
Does the half life of the drug depend on how much you’re injecting at a time? Like does 100 mgs of enanthate have a half life of 5 days, as opposed to 50 mgs having a half life of 3 days?
@dodgydodds
29 күн бұрын
No the half life is the half life. It is not dose dependant. So say it is 5 days what ever you put in would be half of that after 5 days 100mg - 50mg 75-37.5 200-100 etc
@dlindo8892
29 күн бұрын
@@dodgydodds Thank you. 👍
Derek looking hella bulked up lol
At 60 yrs old I have been on TRT for about a year and half and do the typical once weekly 200 mg dose...and now considering the twice weekly two questions any advantages or disadvantages on whether it's IM or SubQ and I have friend another older gentleman who has a Test implant that is time release which I think last 6 months and how effective is that method?
@juicebox853
29 күн бұрын
any punctuation?
@jman71890
29 күн бұрын
Did you pay attention to the video? Watch the last couple minutes again
@m.b.593
29 күн бұрын
@@juicebox853figure it out
@soxbeatcubs
29 күн бұрын
Always go IM. The literature clearly states for IM use only. Depending on the fat pocket you inject into, the oil could sit there for days or even worse, lump up and go nowhere for weeks, hence the lumps forming. Like he said, there’s no studies supporting SubQ being superior. IM for oils, SubQ for water based injections(HCG,etc)
@iamkamsai
29 күн бұрын
Sports TRT enhancement dose.
Big Boy TRT 250 twice a week 😂
@diceydie-c
26 күн бұрын
That's not TRT lol that's a cycle😂
@kiieferr
16 күн бұрын
175 Monday Wednesday Friday 💪🏿
@baylincole3949
8 күн бұрын
I do 125mg twice a week,happy with that
To the guy interviewing you - LET DEREK TALK BRO
I pin on Monday and Thursday. 75mg each time. SubQ. Worked for me after trying out all different options.
Derek low-key looking like Russell Crowe in the thumbnail picture
I have about 100 questions I’d like to ask theses guys lol.
I take 30 mg of cyp every 48 hours. Been doing it for years now. That has been the best by far for dosing that I’ve tried.
Advice Needed - T is at 159, 6’ 2” and now 340lbs. Big boy. Struggling with weight for years and hard to lose weight. Finally at a point the Urologist is going to prescribe TRT at 200mg every other week. He’s doing one last test before I go in for the first shot. Should I let him give me the first dose at 200 or tell him I want to do 50 biweekly? Also, does size matter when going on TRT?
Ehy don't people ever talk about TRT patches? I'd like to try those.
What does a guy do who just started trt 50mg 2x weekly (100mg total) and has high blood pressure? Is TRT worth the challenges?
@bigmikeobama5314
29 күн бұрын
he talks to his doctor, and if his doctor seems unsure he finds a different doctor
@akleo78
29 күн бұрын
5mg/2.5mg Cialus taken daily will fix your blood pressure and has many other advantages.
@awaken69
29 күн бұрын
whats your BMI, bodyfat level and A1c?
@akleo78
28 күн бұрын
@@awaken69 great questions!
Didn't have a problem with gel every other day
I dont understand a word, but it is like ASMR to me 😂
What about test decanoate though?
@swoops41
29 күн бұрын
What about it?
@vitorcpc
29 күн бұрын
Its suposed to be hair safe
Damn I do twice a week, now I am tripping should break down every other day
Were you guys talking over each other, or was the editing making it look that way? Hard to follow some of the information due to both people talking at the same time.
I tried test E weekly and my dr said my levels were to high. Lowered to biweekly and honestly I don't think I feel any difference. Although maybe I need to do half that weekly after watching this.
Tell me why my back, chest, and shoulders are FUCKED with acne from only using trt? Its very annoying.
@FrodeFalch
42 минут бұрын
How much do you take?
@SurFrankenRon
39 минут бұрын
@@FrodeFalch 200mg a week plus gonadorelin which keeps my nuts pushing a bit also
@FrodeFalch
29 минут бұрын
@@SurFrankenRon kinda strange. And injection right? Not gel. Maybe its something else. Like if your diet aint on point.
@SurFrankenRon
27 минут бұрын
@@FrodeFalch I inject. I quit drinking, I eat the same if not healthier than I was before injecting
@SurFrankenRon
22 минут бұрын
@FrodeFalch last blood test I had I was around 1100 free test. What's weird is the acne really started when I quit drinking 10 months ago
i have been so depressed lately and its because i stopped pinning enanthate frequently just shot 80mg
I'm surprised they didn't discuss the new daily oral TRT options (sold under the brand names Kyzatrex, Jatenzo and Tlando). Because it's pill form, it's more convenient than pinning daily and it's only twice/day instead of 3-times/day of Natesto.
@AniviaS
29 күн бұрын
They aren't new. They are just new brand names for oral Testosterone Undecanoate, and they have all the well known disadvantages of previous oral Testosterone Undecanoate pills. Better than topical testosterone gel, but not real competition for injectable testosterone
@TheKruxed
29 күн бұрын
Would be nice to see a short video
@kevinmalcolm4082
27 күн бұрын
Very bad for your liver. I'll stick to old school infection.
@DoctorHemi
27 күн бұрын
@kevinmalcolm4082 , you're thinking of the old methy-testosterone pills. The new kind enters through the lymphatic system and bypasses the liver entirely.
@DoctorHemi
27 күн бұрын
@@AniviaS, I believe they are new for the US.
Do a podcast with dr Todd Lee MD, he's pharmaceutical guru.
Any comment on european methods like Derek tried to say, 6 wks twice on 1000mg on Nebido, then a longer interval?
I use a 10ML vial, it takes me about 5 months to finish a bottle, you think there’s any evidence to support that the test has lost some potency by the end of the bottle?? Thanks ! 😃
@Embrace_Pain
29 күн бұрын
Testosterone does have an expiration date, but it lasts long enough for regular use. If you really want to determine the “potency” over time you just need to get bloodwork
125 twice a week! 🎉 Been doin' this for years 💣
@MrJohnno89
25 күн бұрын
How's that been for you, I'm doing 250 once week.might go twice
wtf is fslhfs suppression
@6:40 “300 ng/dl higher in the morning than later”. I chuckled a bit at that line. Before TRT, my levels in the morning weren’t even 300 ng/dl 😅 Great discussion Derek, thank you for bringing Dr. Attia on.
@rcf3773
29 күн бұрын
I think before Trt I qualified to play women's sports. 😂
@BrandonWest87
28 күн бұрын
@@rcf3773 😂 Dude, you win 😂 Well played 👏 👏 👏
Gotta love Derek’s chubby cheeks
Im 37, and still thankfully have good test levels and muscle mass naturally but I hate needles, and the idea of multiple injections a week freak me out, so that would be my road block to eventually getting on TRT. 😂 This was very insightful though.
@David-Pin-zn4yv
29 күн бұрын
Have to man up little girl.
@DeathProfessor
28 күн бұрын
@@David-Pin-zn4yv "Man up" *needs DRUGS in order to "be a man"* lmaooooooo
Damn
More plates more dates w/ Tom Morello
Can't wait till Test Undecanoate goes generic. Till then it's ugl for me. Not having to pin for weeks is worth the risk, for me at least.
I miss the reacting to some drama or something videos
Make another video on Ryan Garcia's suspension.