Trope Talk: Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass

Everyone say hello to my favorite character archetype, which just narrowly edges out my second favorite, "crazy-prepared deadpan stoic badass with 37 knives hidden on their person at all times". The CMHB is an impossibly versatile writing tool wrapped up in a goofy, charming exterior, and I'd like to tell you all about its many literary uses today!
Who's your favorite CMHB, and what's your favorite scene with them? Gush about it in the comments!
(Part of this video was inspired in a big way by this excellent Every Frame A Painting video: • Jackie Chan - How to D... )
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  • @luckypeanut9943
    @luckypeanut99434 жыл бұрын

    Never forget the time spider man lost his voice from a cold and all the villains surrendered cuz they were afraid of how silent he was

  • @leahraji3244

    @leahraji3244

    3 жыл бұрын

    I need a link t o that comic. I have ben thinking about it and I can't find it online

  • @PhoenixEnforcer101

    @PhoenixEnforcer101

    3 жыл бұрын

    What issue?

  • @elreywong

    @elreywong

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Amazing Spider-Man Annual (2014).

  • @mariazapata1606

    @mariazapata1606

    3 жыл бұрын

    I read the comic because of this comment and they didn't surrender they get their ass beaten because they waiting for him to crack a joke which I found that more hilarious

  • @Center-For-I.E.D.Mismanagement

    @Center-For-I.E.D.Mismanagement

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mariazapata1606 That IS hilarious.

  • @RedRegent
    @RedRegent5 жыл бұрын

    Every D&D campaign I've ever played in has been marked by the players' inability to perform simple tasks. The party can't so much as buy sandwiches without seducing a goat, killing the mayor, and opening a portal to hell in the town square. Then initiative is rolled and suddenly they're a flawless death squad that could kill God.

  • @DizzyDisco93

    @DizzyDisco93

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sounds about right, I've had a campaign emd becuase we failed so hard at buying a staff for our wizard thatit turned into a fight. Instead of subduing the shopkeep we killed him with a crit and gaurds got involved and tried to arrest us, we ended up killing half the town before we got put down and kept failing our persuasion checks everytime we tried to surrender or negotiate.

  • @the_katzy

    @the_katzy

    5 жыл бұрын

    One, time my friends and I played a similar game (can't remember name, we were preteens) and we tried to buy a horse. Somehow, that spiraled into killing half the city's police force, assassinating a general, hijacking a caravan, fighting a god, and then strangling the horse to death.

  • @MarlonMacielBrando

    @MarlonMacielBrando

    5 жыл бұрын

    "The party can't so much as buy sandwiches without seducing a goat [...]" *WHAT*

  • @frostpersonal3758

    @frostpersonal3758

    5 жыл бұрын

    clearly, you don't play dnd

  • @lemoncitrine3504

    @lemoncitrine3504

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@MarlonMacielBrando This is standard DnD stuff

  • @skyhideaway
    @skyhideaway2 жыл бұрын

    It's amazing how Sokka is both the funny idiot and the genius strategist at the same time. A lot of his comedy actually comes from him being the only braincell in the group and constantly getting frustrated with the carelessness of the others, which is really clever. He's a great fighter but his strength lies in his brains, which is surprising for a "moronic" character (I mean, he's had his share of genuinely stupid stuff too, but still). It's a twist on the badass, with his main power being the smart guy, rather than being the awesome warrior.

  • @fulviopontarollo2952

    @fulviopontarollo2952

    9 ай бұрын

    It is also extremely funny that most times he tries to plan something with Aang (usually something related to other Gaang dynamics going on) their combined efforts concoct plans that are extremely silly and stupid

  • @MasterIsabelle

    @MasterIsabelle

    8 ай бұрын

    @@fulviopontarollo2952like when he tries to trick katara with a fake apology letter from toph

  • @Door227

    @Door227

    8 ай бұрын

    @@fulviopontarollo2952whenever sokka gets in a duo with aang all of the brain cells go down the drain

  • @angelkingsley5299

    @angelkingsley5299

    8 ай бұрын

    God I love this show

  • @ginger-ale7818

    @ginger-ale7818

    3 ай бұрын

    It’s especially good with his character development. He starts off as a squeaky sexist idiot whose only purpose is to be suspicious and get kicked off a ramp, but by the end he’s a skilled strategist and leader. And he dumps the entire crew of a blimp into the ocean by inviting them to a birthday party

  • @Ruduwulf
    @Ruduwulf Жыл бұрын

    I love the Flash's scene cuz you know that he isn't scared of dying, he's terrified because he knows that dying under these circumstances is the catalyst for turning his friends/idols into the worst versions of themselves. OOF

  • @gavinthenobelassassin8923

    @gavinthenobelassassin8923

    Ай бұрын

    I don't think Flash is afraid of death at all. Like I mean that sincerely, I don't think he's afraid of death... he's only afraid of being unable to help, he's only afraid for his friends. I 100% agree with you.

  • @catbatrat1760

    @catbatrat1760

    14 күн бұрын

    Yo, that's a really good point! "OOF" indeed.

  • @alwest4472
    @alwest44723 жыл бұрын

    I love iroh, his “moron” side is constantly doing wacky stuff, that on later thought turns out to be calculated and helpful. He’s just wonderful

  • @NaviciaAbbot

    @NaviciaAbbot

    3 жыл бұрын

    Uncle Iroh is the real Avatar in Avatar: The Last Airbender.

  • @yiklongtay6029

    @yiklongtay6029

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm curious. What should be the minimum frequency of switching between badass and moron for one to be considered a CMHB? Iroh was mostly a jokester and non-combatant in Season 1, a sincere and mentor character in Season 2, and a serious badass in Season 3. His moron badass ratio is different in every season and he doesn't switch very frequently in all 3.

  • @DrBrangar

    @DrBrangar

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@yiklongtay6029 it is more the persona he has crafted around himself. Despite him having earned the title of Dragon, which means he supposedly killed a dragon alone, the entire nation sees him as a weak, senile, tea obsessed, old man, not the premier firebender he is. That sounds like a total CMHB to me, of the first flavour that Red mentioned. He likes to chill in his downtime, but puts on his serious pants when needed.

  • @heuristix77

    @heuristix77

    2 жыл бұрын

    When Zhao tries to backstab Zuko with lightning after Zuko beats him in Agni Kai, it's Iroh who reacts perfectly, grabs Zhao's hand, redirects the lightning harmlessly into the sky, and throws Zhao overboard. This was Book 1 Episode 3. They showed flashes of Hidden Badass in Iroh through the whole series.

  • @DrBrangar

    @DrBrangar

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@heuristix77 minor correction: Zhao never did lightning, his was just a backstabbing kick. Azula's first fight with Zuko was the "he pops up and redirects her lightning" bit

  • @sambarrett2711
    @sambarrett27113 жыл бұрын

    I would like to think I’m a crouching moron, hidden badass but in reality I’m more of a crouching moron, hidden even more of a moron

  • @cosplayingchao

    @cosplayingchao

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is when the straight-man says "I don't think it was very well hidden to begin with"

  • @wooblydooblygod3857

    @wooblydooblygod3857

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm so brutally moronic it comes so out of left field for my enemies it works, 'til they get used to it.

  • @spino-ace

    @spino-ace

    2 жыл бұрын

    SAME LMAO

  • @cinnamonro3344

    @cinnamonro3344

    2 жыл бұрын

    holy shit lmao

  • @discordiadingle3203

    @discordiadingle3203

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m a crouching moron, hidden hot mess

  • @Jack-sy8mr
    @Jack-sy8mr Жыл бұрын

    Luthor’s plan Step 1. Become President Step 2. Kill Flash Step 3. Get killed by Superman Step 4....profit?

  • @DDlambchop43

    @DDlambchop43

    4 ай бұрын

    yeah, I'm guessing he's the only one smart enough to understand the intricacies of the plan. Edit: After watching the series again, I noticed (spoiler) he never intended to be president; he went thru all that to discredit the heroes and "tick off superman". All while putting together a truly frightening plan.

  • @rage_2000
    @rage_20002 жыл бұрын

    The original clip that inspired “Ultra Instinct Shaggy” is a clip of him being awesome and funny at the same time

  • @AlX-Ander

    @AlX-Ander

    10 ай бұрын

    It's basically a Jackie Chan fight scene, in all the best ways.

  • @galeg4021
    @galeg40212 жыл бұрын

    there's a great Jackie Chan outtake where he pops around the corner with a gun and says "CHEESE!" the crew starts giggling and he just "what?" and someone behind the camera says "it's freeze. Not cheese." and jackie laughs "Oh right! Freeze!"

  • @leonardorolingstella8554

    @leonardorolingstella8554

    10 ай бұрын

    He totally cheesed that line

  • @seanbigay1042

    @seanbigay1042

    8 ай бұрын

    And they didn't throw that scene in? Lame!

  • @vermilionrubin
    @vermilionrubin3 жыл бұрын

    "People like funny and people like awesome. And I'm people." Can relate.

  • @ultraliskbuilder5831

    @ultraliskbuilder5831

    3 жыл бұрын

    Am 'people'.

  • @pinkajou656

    @pinkajou656

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes am people

  • @vermilionrubin

    @vermilionrubin

    3 жыл бұрын

    So many people

  • @ohboi2119

    @ohboi2119

    2 жыл бұрын

    People don't like stupid though you know. People also don't like kirito.

  • @vermilionrubin

    @vermilionrubin

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ohboi2119 Depends if it's funny stupid, or annoying stupid.

  • @guidomista3570
    @guidomista3570 Жыл бұрын

    I think my personal favorite CMHB is the one and only Captain Jack Sparrow. He pretends to be a bumbling idiot of a pirate when just under the surface he's a simultaneously brilliant and insane master escape artist that can figure out how he can get out of a situation with little more than a glance at a few things that he can use. The idiot act just helps him pull off his escapes from inescapable situations by making everyone else who doesn't know of him already underestimate his affinity for using wacky bullshit to get himself out of trouble.

  • @herowither12354

    @herowither12354

    Жыл бұрын

    ..pretends?

  • @donanthebarbarian5177

    @donanthebarbarian5177

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@herowither12354 depends on how drunk he is whether it's an act or not. When he's sufficiently drunk he stops being an idiot while he's doing something badass or stops doing badass things while saying/doing idiotic things. When he's fairly sober (for Jack Sparrow) he's doing a mix of both. Which makes it seem like he's either pretending to be an idiot or almost always too drunk to think things through completely.

  • @yesmansam6686

    @yesmansam6686

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't think he's acting. I think he's eccentric in such a way that he looks stupid on the surface and that leads people to constantly underestimate him.

  • @tonoornottono

    @tonoornottono

    Жыл бұрын

    @@yesmansam6686 rewatch the first movie then. it’s really very obvious he’s putting on an act. the rest of the movies it’s harder to tell

  • @yesmansam6686

    @yesmansam6686

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tonoornottono Gladly, I love pirates of the Caribbean.

  • @chickencurry420
    @chickencurry42011 ай бұрын

    "Weapons grade slapstick" is the best term I've ever heard to describe Jackie Chan

  • @virginiamooney4105
    @virginiamooney41055 жыл бұрын

    Red: on the opposite end of the spectrum is the man child variant. Me, immediately: Deadpool

  • @virginiamooney4105

    @virginiamooney4105

    5 жыл бұрын

    Also shout-out to my boi Sokka for being a really well-written CMHB.

  • @XeranDereth

    @XeranDereth

    5 жыл бұрын

    Virginia Mooney I mean he only became badass after a LOooooong wait, but yes

  • @artoriasbenoit

    @artoriasbenoit

    5 жыл бұрын

    *Dante

  • @MrMagbrant

    @MrMagbrant

    5 жыл бұрын

    Me, immediately: Josephu Joestar!

  • @quentinlahure4262

    @quentinlahure4262

    5 жыл бұрын

    Virginia Mooney Oh yeah, you nailed it

  • @jetstreamjackie3437
    @jetstreamjackie34375 жыл бұрын

    This trope is why the Ultra Instinct Shaggy meme works

  • @literallyglados

    @literallyglados

    5 жыл бұрын

    ... i-... it is...

  • @boldblues

    @boldblues

    5 жыл бұрын

    It just works.

  • @christopherauzenne5023

    @christopherauzenne5023

    5 жыл бұрын

    holy shit

  • @shrishvellore1501

    @shrishvellore1501

    5 жыл бұрын

    A Mailman with a Gun is that a mojo reference

  • @matthewmuir8884

    @matthewmuir8884

    5 жыл бұрын

    Too bad Shaggy gets easily stepped on by General Grievous...

  • @lukeroberson2115
    @lukeroberson2115 Жыл бұрын

    "They're dead. People are dead." - Vash the Stampede Unquestionably one of the most amazing moments of a CMHB I've ever seen. This whole show Vash has been preventing people from being hurt, not just dying, bit if possible, hurt. Now people are dead, and Vash's simple statement of that fact is terrifying.

  • @dragb9284

    @dragb9284

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I wish she mentioned vash

  • @dashvash5440

    @dashvash5440

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@drag b vash was the first image shown. Though I wish she talked about him more. He's one of my all time favorite characters.

  • @amyshaw6825

    @amyshaw6825

    9 ай бұрын

    @@dashvash5440 I think one of the more interesting things about Vash - and also Iroh who's another fave CMHB of mine - is the question of 'why' they choose to be as they are. How much of it is a mask, how much isn't. What forces pushed them into that style of life. Why they hide their badassery, ect. In addition to the above points, this can be a really juicy question to answer. I think it's very notable that when you ask people for their fave Avatar TLA episodes, 'Tales of Ba Sing Sai' tends to come up a lot. Notably Iroh's backstory one. Likewise, Vash's CMHB is awsome, but even more interesting because the show does kinda explore why he is like he is.

  • @henrypaleveda7760

    @henrypaleveda7760

    8 ай бұрын

    so many good episodes. happy to see the new "Stampede" show.

  • @rainestorm6029

    @rainestorm6029

    8 ай бұрын

    I love stampede

  • @remembernovember9059
    @remembernovember9059 Жыл бұрын

    Zenitsu, the guy who's first instinct when facing the demons he's supposed to fight is running away, but once he takes a power nap, turns into the living embodiment of the phrase, "Lightning never strikes twice."

  • @raptorxrise5386

    @raptorxrise5386

    Жыл бұрын

    okay what the fuck? How did i never make the connection to that saying? Ill just see myself out

  • @nvk3435

    @nvk3435

    Жыл бұрын

    Too bad Zenitsu is fucking insufferable for a good 75% of the show. Man just won’t stop screaming like dude shut uuuuuup

  • @victorvirgili4447

    @victorvirgili4447

    11 ай бұрын

    Lightning never strikes twice. Because, when wielded by Zenitsu, it only needs to strike once.

  • @kyrasoze516

    @kyrasoze516

    10 ай бұрын

    Lightning rods exist entirely to make lightning strike many times in the same place.

  • @nvk3435

    @nvk3435

    10 ай бұрын

    @@kyrasoze516 thats why its a phrase and not a fact

  • @someguy4405
    @someguy44055 жыл бұрын

    She said badass *57 times* , in case you were wondering.

  • @Bruceologist

    @Bruceologist

    5 жыл бұрын

    I wasn't, but I'm glad to know

  • @jacobwilson8579

    @jacobwilson8579

    5 жыл бұрын

    Huh.... Neat

  • @someguy4405

    @someguy4405

    5 жыл бұрын

    I fucking went over the video and tallied it up.

  • @anonymyus7007

    @anonymyus7007

    5 жыл бұрын

    I was about to comment 'thats a lot of badasses' lol thx for actually counting them

  • @virginiamooney4105

    @virginiamooney4105

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, that was weighing on my mind

  • @danielkjellgren749
    @danielkjellgren7494 жыл бұрын

    A man child is literally Joseph jostar the guy who manages to simultaneously be the smartest guy in the room and the stupidest

  • @leonader9465

    @leonader9465

    4 жыл бұрын

    And okuyasu in part 4 is introduced as a badass with the second most powerful ability of that part and then becomes a crouching morin only occasionaly using it again and for full effect at that.

  • @DocWolph

    @DocWolph

    4 жыл бұрын

    When you are the strongest, as a default, you don't have to be smart at all.

  • @coolgreenbug7551

    @coolgreenbug7551

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DocWolph unless there is a flower pot

  • @coolgreenbug7551

    @coolgreenbug7551

    4 жыл бұрын

    @thespooksterman I'm not sure if they count, Diavolo always has one hand on the wheel. It's less cmhb and more a sentient oblivious mask

  • @t111ran3

    @t111ran3

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@leonader9465 Okuyasu is reversed hmcb XDDDD. At the beginning he was badass, later he is dumbass.

  • @WreckinPoints11
    @WreckinPoints112 жыл бұрын

    I think making comic relief characters as snipers or hackers is to keep them out of the direct line of fire so that they can focus more of their brain on being comedic, instead of being forced to worry about getting out of the way of dying.

  • @wjzav1971

    @wjzav1971

    11 ай бұрын

    Hacker also makes sense, since the whacky chaotic guy can come up with some "unpredictable genius code" that no normal guy could have conceived off.

  • @seanbigay1042

    @seanbigay1042

    8 ай бұрын

    This is why the Friendly Sniper trope is a thing. It's quite possible for someone to be the absolute life of the party, and at the same time to be the deadliest sniper of them all. Simo Hayha was actually a nice guy, but also such a lethal sniper that during Finaldn's 1941 war with Russia the Russians came to fear him as The White Death. They were so scared of him, they blasted whole swathes of forest with artillery in hopes of killing him. (They failed.)

  • @Maniac4Bricks
    @Maniac4Bricks2 жыл бұрын

    I just realized The Lego Movie technically shared two CMHBs: - Vitruvius as The Faker, normally playing up the senile old blind mentor but still able to fight (in the prologue and towards the end: "well June bug, I'd use the term EXPERIENCED"). - UniKitty as The Goku, courtesy aware of her aggressive side that can pummel through robots in a single leap, but generally reserved for her fun and cheery personality (breaks out when Emmet is trapped during the invasion of Bricksburg: "must stay positive....AW FORGET IT"). However, we can also mark it as Superpowered Evil Side as she does gradually remain angry kitty in this film and its sequel. But it does gradually return over time. There's just a good portion of time between both films in which she adapts the aggressive personality over the norm

  • @notasovietspytrustme4392
    @notasovietspytrustme43924 жыл бұрын

    This is like Jar Jar Binks acting clumsy to hide the fact that he’s a Sith Lord

  • @arianewinter4266

    @arianewinter4266

    3 жыл бұрын

    That not hidden badass it's hidden villain

  • @Silverwind87

    @Silverwind87

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or Ron the Death Eater.

  • @arianewinter4266

    @arianewinter4266

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Silverwind87 nah, do you have any clues to that? For Jar Jar there are tonns of clues

  • @Silverwind87

    @Silverwind87

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@arianewinter4266 You're right. Yousa no underestimate the bombad power of the Dark Side.

  • @matthewmuir8884

    @matthewmuir8884

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or, for an example that was actually used, Tobi in Naruto Shippuden: the bumbling barrel-of-laughs minion of the Akatsuki is actually the evil mastermind.

  • @sgt.krakatoa1093
    @sgt.krakatoa10934 жыл бұрын

    I like how in most trope talks, Avatar is featured in at least one variant of the trope.

  • @hippiehippo9030

    @hippiehippo9030

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thats because Avatar: The Last Airbender is perfection in every way.

  • @catdogfishdogcats

    @catdogfishdogcats

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@hippiehippo9030 or at least approaching perfection. I wouldn't not want an even better Avatar spinoff.

  • @vay5540

    @vay5540

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bongos the only problem (that I have an issue with) was the romance that was kinda rushed (karata and aang). It wasn’t good, so I just try to forget it exists.

  • @tutumazibuko2510

    @tutumazibuko2510

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@hippiehippo9030 lol no it fucking isn't

  • @wizardtim8573

    @wizardtim8573

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@vay5540 It literally built over the entire show, from when Aang first woke up from the ice berg... Seriously, I don't get how some people don't see these romances instantly...

  • @Leffrey
    @Leffrey2 жыл бұрын

    "Demons run when a good man goes to war" And simply captain jack sparrow are also good cases of cmhbs

  • @repinsvizios
    @repinsvizios Жыл бұрын

    When I started writing my character, Aydyn, I wanted them to be essentially a cross between James Bond and Jackie Chan. They were always more than a little silly, so when they reached the part where they were the best spy to have ever lived (their own words), they purposefully started to take their fights less seriously, just to see how good they had gotten. Why pick up a regular gun, when you can pick up a nailgun instead, which is a lot less useful, but is also funnier when used (in)correctly.

  • @OreoRanger2210

    @OreoRanger2210

    Жыл бұрын

    That sounds awesome. What's the plot?

  • @seanbigay1042

    @seanbigay1042

    8 ай бұрын

    That sounds ... familiar. Very familiar. Now, what famous character is as debonair as James Bond yet as prone to pratfalls and pitfalls as Jackie Chan? (Da da-da DA! Da da-DA! Da da-da DA! Da da-DA da DAAA!!!)

  • @miaswapp

    @miaswapp

    Ай бұрын

    ​@seanbigay1042 makes me thing of Johnny English in the second movie lol

  • @dumbdude3103
    @dumbdude31033 жыл бұрын

    "I may be an idiot, but I'm not stupid" is my favorite version. Highly booksmart and awesome but have little to know common sense. Like Sokka in ATLA, Spencer in iCarly, or Shawn in Psych.

  • @potentpotassium5776

    @potentpotassium5776

    Жыл бұрын

    That line sums me up in a single sentence.

  • @sweett3253

    @sweett3253

    Жыл бұрын

    Little to know

  • @cecilyheywood2675

    @cecilyheywood2675

    Жыл бұрын

    he he Shawn's great

  • @CraftingGummi

    @CraftingGummi

    Жыл бұрын

    High Intelligence! Low Wisdom…

  • @dahla1919
    @dahla19193 жыл бұрын

    You talked about how it's annoying when CMHBs are constantly underestimated, and I agree with you, but I love when it's the inverse. Where the CMHB is rumored to be extremely powerful, then when met in person they just seem like a goofball with a bad rumor attached to them. Until later in the story when that rumor turns out to be true.

  • @amam-hv2xr

    @amam-hv2xr

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is actually similar to Yoda's introduction in Star Wars, he is one of the examples that jumped into my head now

  • @Ertwin123

    @Ertwin123

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@amam-hv2xr My first thought was Vash the Stampede, aka the Human Typhoon. Rumoured to wipe out entire towns, yet when anyone meets him, they completely dismiss the idea that he is who he says he is, because he's such an idiotic goofball. (Trigun)

  • @booplesnoot1353

    @booplesnoot1353

    3 жыл бұрын

    Harry Potter... lowkey

  • @dahla1919

    @dahla1919

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@booplesnoot1353 my god you're right

  • @booplesnoot1353

    @booplesnoot1353

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dahla1919 Yeah! It's really interesting to think about. I also think this applies to Aang in Avatar the Last Airbender. Everyone thinks as the avatar as this powerful being, but then they see a literal child and think "oh never mind hes a stupid kid." And in some ways he is, but he also defeats the fire lord at the end

  • @prestonm-f382
    @prestonm-f3822 жыл бұрын

    Late, but, I also find it interesting how the CMHB trope can work on villains. A villain that toys with the heroes, that loudly makes jokes, that makes bond villain errors simply because of how much fun he’s having… and then something goes wrong, and he proceeds to start busting out the most powerful shit in his arsenal. Example is Xykon from Order of the Stick.

  • @catbatrat1760

    @catbatrat1760

    14 күн бұрын

    Funny villains are the best. They can make you laugh, AND they can give you goosebumps! What's not to love?

  • @prestonm-f382

    @prestonm-f382

    13 күн бұрын

    @@catbatrat1760 indeed. The example I used, Xykon, is usually hilarious, making jokes and breaking the fourth wall (spoilers for order of the stick ahead) And then, in one of the prequels, he has one of his underlings murder his brother by his own free will just to see if he was willing to. When one of the protagonists gets a massive power up and tries to face him one on one, he listens to his underlings (which he never does), stops playing with them, and wins despite, on paper, being far weaker. And then when said protagonist manages to make him lose his phylactery? He says “I am officially done with this. I’m snuffing out you sickening pouches of warm goo right now.” With no comedy, and then prevents his underling from regrowing his eye just because he failed them. I just love it when seemingly comedic villains get serious, but it becomes terrifying.

  • @ValerietheLovelyDeadlyItalian
    @ValerietheLovelyDeadlyItalian2 жыл бұрын

    Stone-Cold badass characters blend really well with CMHBs, especially if the setting better fits the CMHB, because the guy who is established as a serious and professional person is now forced to turn a little more fun and light-hearted, often thinking they look stupid the whole time (and sometimes being right).

  • @AntiSoraXVI

    @AntiSoraXVI

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is Trevor and Alucard in the Castlevania show

  • @Friki_gameplays
    @Friki_gameplays3 жыл бұрын

    -Noo you can just be badass and funny at the same time -Jackie Chan and Bollywood action scenes: observe

  • @janosd4nuke

    @janosd4nuke

    3 жыл бұрын

    What about Bud Spencer and Terrence Hill?

  • @anitanielsen1061

    @anitanielsen1061

    3 жыл бұрын

    "Who decided that?"

  • @Zerpderp0

    @Zerpderp0

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nothing for more laughs and more fuck yeah from then the catapulted phalanx from bollywood

  • @pendragon0905

    @pendragon0905

    2 жыл бұрын

    Jackie Chan 4Ever 👊

  • @euclyptuseuphoria3759

    @euclyptuseuphoria3759

    2 жыл бұрын

    Arnold Schwartzanegger be like

  • @EchoKnightYT
    @EchoKnightYT4 жыл бұрын

    “My name is Michael J. Caboose, and I! Hate! Taxes!” “It’s Texas, you idiot!” “That too!” RvB season 10

  • @mistergio3683

    @mistergio3683

    3 жыл бұрын

    Your Toast has been burnt...and no amount of scrapping will remove the black spot!

  • @actualperson1971

    @actualperson1971

    3 жыл бұрын

    Based af

  • @renjoku3771

    @renjoku3771

    3 жыл бұрын

    YES!!!!

  • @dmen7280

    @dmen7280

    3 жыл бұрын

    What is that series cause my brain went with "Red vs Blue s10" and now I need it

  • @EchoKnightYT

    @EchoKnightYT

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dmen7280 yes, red vs blue

  • @fake-inafakerson8087
    @fake-inafakerson80872 жыл бұрын

    "walking talking force of nature that thinks marriage is a thing you eat" honestly sounds like how a lot of people play barbarians in D&D

  • @WraythSkitzofrenik
    @WraythSkitzofrenik2 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see a separate yet similar trope in this vein... The Badass Adorable!

  • @darthvidar8746

    @darthvidar8746

    Жыл бұрын

    kirby

  • @AL-di1fo

    @AL-di1fo

    Жыл бұрын

    Honey Nozuka

  • @seanbigay1042

    @seanbigay1042

    8 ай бұрын

    Da da-da DA! Da da-DA! Da da-da DA! Da da-DA da-DAAA!!!

  • @Reverend_Salem

    @Reverend_Salem

    Ай бұрын

    Toph

  • @frenchiefrenchie3624

    @frenchiefrenchie3624

    26 күн бұрын

    Frieren

  • @EloquentTroll
    @EloquentTroll4 жыл бұрын

    Kung Fu Panda actually does a pretty decent job of making this archetype the main character, it's not perfect by any stretch, but it's a fine example of CMHB protagonist.

  • @rodlurks66

    @rodlurks66

    4 жыл бұрын

    in the discussion of the zero-confidence goofball variant Po is up on the screen for a few seconds so Red is aware of him.

  • @TheUltimoSniper

    @TheUltimoSniper

    4 жыл бұрын

    Skadoosh!

  • @woooh3514

    @woooh3514

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well, yeah, but he still acts pretty goofy when beatin' people up. But then again, it is a kids movie.

  • @kuronaialtani

    @kuronaialtani

    4 жыл бұрын

    Even funnier since there’s that phrase “crouching tiger hidden dragon” or something similar

  • @kencali3303

    @kencali3303

    4 жыл бұрын

    I would disagree, he was only a badass after training, not before. He worked his way to that level I feel.

  • @enderboy1824
    @enderboy18245 жыл бұрын

    “People like this and I am people” -Red 2019

  • @jannegrey593

    @jannegrey593

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ohhh.. She thinks she's people. She's a Goddess.

  • @lucystarlight8887
    @lucystarlight8887 Жыл бұрын

    Zenitsu from Demon Slayer is a great example of the second type. Initially he’s such a coward that he can only use his cool powers when he’s asleep, but later on he learns how to face his fears and becomes stronger because of it.

  • @brandonnguyen6718

    @brandonnguyen6718

    Жыл бұрын

    I still hate the fact it's two different "people". Base Zenitsu's a pretty boring and uninteresting character, he's a womanizer and his jokes don't really land. It contrasts Tanjiro and Inosuke, specifically the latter, who while snarky and comedic, he has a backstory that shows why he acts like that. Zenitsu doesn't have much of a backstory, he has great development, but for the majority of the show, he's just boring. And when he goes into badass mode, he doesn't pull out anything new, he just does the same couple of attacks, which while explained in story, doesn't make it anymore boring. It'd be like if half of Sonic's moveset in Smash was just variations on spin dash. Wait...

  • @jamalhartley5863

    @jamalhartley5863

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@brandonnguyen6718Which is a shame cuz his backstory is kinda sad and pretty messed up. All we know is he's an orphan and had a tendency to be taken advantage of. A lot of his story is played for laughs but if you sit and think it's legitimately tragic. His inner self was a black void 😮 Also the fact he's a ball of self-hatred who doesn't like the person he is. Plus with what happens to his master and senior. Also the fact I have doubts Insokue or Tanjiro really cares about him. You have a pretty interesting character. But unfortunately that's not what we got 😅

  • @flux.aeterna

    @flux.aeterna

    7 ай бұрын

    He fails the “not annoying funny” part of the cmhb test

  • @raptorxrise5386

    @raptorxrise5386

    Ай бұрын

    @@brandonnguyen6718 Hes not two people. When he is "sleeping" he is basically meditationg. Its the same character just without being dragged down by his own fear and insecurity. Without spoiling too much: When the eventual "convergence" of the two modes of zenitsu happens, its not some big event. There is no supernatural change. He just starts being a normal badass. Its actually really well done, but sadly way too late.

  • @colinz226
    @colinz2262 жыл бұрын

    Idk why but the line about the zero-confidance-goofball initially dismissing their basassery and then getting super excited seems exceptionally wholesome to me. I think it's a fusion of the feeling of watching a shy person come out of their shell, and seeing somebody being SUPER happy which in my case i tend to get caught up in the happy person's pace. I just like happy.

  • @jollygoodhissynoodle1722
    @jollygoodhissynoodle17225 жыл бұрын

    I think the opposite is much funnier. "Oh no it's the amazing, powerful, puppy OF DOOM." "Bork" "RUN FOR YOUR LIVES"

  • @justas423

    @justas423

    4 жыл бұрын

    I want to see a DnD character with garbage stats but has put everything into intimidation so everyone thinks they're powerful.

  • @coolgreenbug7551

    @coolgreenbug7551

    4 жыл бұрын

    It is the rabbit,

  • @onomayonnaise

    @onomayonnaise

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ever heard of King from One Punch Man?

  • @futtynucker5278

    @futtynucker5278

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@justas423 Check out the story of "Brolaire"

  • @fluffyphoenix8082

    @fluffyphoenix8082

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@onomayonnaise dude I _love_ King When he was very first introduced/mentioned, I honestly wasn't expecting him to be such a wuss. It's great

  • @DKxRAMONESxSP
    @DKxRAMONESxSP5 жыл бұрын

    Jackie Chan is definitely not underrated or anything but I still feel like he doesn't get enough credit. He laid a blueprint and filmmakers still refuse to take his advice.

  • @kungfuskull

    @kungfuskull

    5 жыл бұрын

    MetalShredMaddNESS and he amazingly has some rather deep philosophical insights into the purpose of kung fu/the Way outside of film; everyday life for everyday people. He’s... awesome.

  • @stevenfoster1330

    @stevenfoster1330

    5 жыл бұрын

    Did anyone else forget to pay attention to Red when he came on?

  • @faolan1686

    @faolan1686

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's hard tp replicate him. How many actors are there training in dramatic action, physical comedy (he is trained as a clown) and martial arts?

  • @Legitpenguins99

    @Legitpenguins99

    4 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately hes become a brainwashed puppet of the Chinese Communist Party

  • @weldonwin

    @weldonwin

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@faolan1686 Also, there aren't that many actors willing to break literally EVERY bone in their body at least once over the course of their career and even come back and do stunts while still injured or reattempt the same stunt that almost killed them

  • @_Rafael04
    @_Rafael04 Жыл бұрын

    Dante from the DMC series is a great example of the manchild approach. When Dante shuts up or stops being funny, you really feel it. And knowing his backstory makes his humour and goofyness just hit completely different.

  • @akiharashuguro2141

    @akiharashuguro2141

    2 ай бұрын

    Wow 😮😲 really. You really think so ?!

  • @Brainflayer
    @Brainflayer2 жыл бұрын

    Something pointed out by Comics Explained during their X Men Vs Avengers videos, specifically about Spiderman, that can feed into the CMHB Trope is that cracking jokes or not taking a fight seriously can actually mess with opponents. Spiderman doesn't just wisecrack during fights because it's who he is, he does it in part because acting so blasé and casual about fights while the people he's fighting take it so seriously can mess with them on a psychological level.

  • @ghostcrystal7930
    @ghostcrystal79305 жыл бұрын

    Roy Mustang: Crouching badass, hidden moron (also don't get him wet)

  • @b.conley7622

    @b.conley7622

    5 жыл бұрын

    Laughed at this. Lmao, it's true though.

  • @kereminde

    @kereminde

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well it was a terrible day for rain, right?

  • @Sean-ne3gx

    @Sean-ne3gx

    5 жыл бұрын

    Maes Hughes wrote the book though

  • @phenjaws569

    @phenjaws569

    5 жыл бұрын

    lol

  • @neophrem2408

    @neophrem2408

    5 жыл бұрын

    In the first few scenes he appeared in I actually thought he was the "useless detective" kind of character who gets all the praise at the end....then suddenly against Lust he was such a freaking badass I was really surprised!

  • @sumowrestler2687
    @sumowrestler26875 жыл бұрын

    I think a really good example of this is Sokka from Avatar. He is primarily comic relief, but then he occasionally has genuinely awesome moments. The best example of this is probably the episode where Sokka trains to be a sword master.

  • @matthewmuir8884

    @matthewmuir8884

    5 жыл бұрын

    Avatar: the Last Airbender has a lot of CMHB's: Sokka, Iroh, Bumi, Aang in season 1, etc. Boy; that show is good.

  • @VertSecretStash

    @VertSecretStash

    5 жыл бұрын

    My favorite examples is when the are fighting that one Hitman at the air temple and the can't attack him, then sokka just cranks him with a boomerang

  • @ZenofireX

    @ZenofireX

    5 жыл бұрын

    He was also in charge of strategy and a special OP during the final fight that destroyed the Fire Nation's air force!

  • @ryanhouk3560

    @ryanhouk3560

    5 жыл бұрын

    I kept thinking, aang

  • @pedroivantaveraferreira3037

    @pedroivantaveraferreira3037

    5 жыл бұрын

    Best example is in the last fight he single-handed defeat four comet-buffed elite guards with a boomerang throw and goes all yyyeeyyy

  • @Autistic_Changeling
    @Autistic_Changeling2 жыл бұрын

    One of my favorite examples is Equestria Girls Pinkie Pie. She has the power to cause sugar to explode. This has lead to my favorite scene in any fanfic where she fended off an entire government task force by lobbing them with exploding pastries. Moral of the story is, *don't face off against Pinkie in Sugar Cube Corner*.

  • @alibekzholaman2923

    @alibekzholaman2923

    10 ай бұрын

    MLP fanfics really are absolutely ridiculous are they?

  • @user-cm8di3eb2t

    @user-cm8di3eb2t

    4 ай бұрын

    This isn't cannon?!

  • @gingermcgingin4106

    @gingermcgingin4106

    4 ай бұрын

    Causing sugar to explode isn't a power, ot does that naturally. Also makes for a really good firestarter, & in molten form can do a decent impression of lava.

  • @seanbigay1042
    @seanbigay10428 ай бұрын

    A lot of people talk about the Flash being their favorite CMHB, so let me just bring up one of my favorite JLU episodes, "Flash and Substance," where the Flash is absolutely chill as he deals with his Rogues Gallery in the company of two of the League's grumpiest sourpusses.

  • @dumbledoratheexplora1140
    @dumbledoratheexplora11405 жыл бұрын

    Also, people should remember the difference between a character who is dumb and a character who is goofy.

  • @xoblitz9038

    @xoblitz9038

    5 жыл бұрын

    Another one is to remember the difference between badboy and bastard abuser

  • @user-xb5bz4fu9o

    @user-xb5bz4fu9o

    5 жыл бұрын

    The difference between anti hero to and just bad guy with a sad backstory is a fine line as well

  • @masonjones7777

    @masonjones7777

    5 жыл бұрын

    that unfortunately wasn't realized when they wrote ratraps character in beast machines

  • @Warcrafter4

    @Warcrafter4

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@user-xb5bz4fu9o An even finer line is between an "Anti Hero"(Does evil for the ultimate good) and an "Anti Villain"(Does occasional good but generally for nefarious reasons but not always). They are complete opposites but are often written as the same thing by bad writers. Often the "Anti Villain" in a story becomes a "Noble Demon" instead aka pure evil but still has rules(Often forbidding allies/minions from hurting the innocent) and will turn against others who break them.

  • @nullpoint3346

    @nullpoint3346

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Warcrafter4 Does good for the greater evil, I want to see this happen.

  • @WakkaMadeInYevon
    @WakkaMadeInYevon4 жыл бұрын

    "People like funnies and people like awesome, and I'm people" Preach

  • @camdenthompson4307

    @camdenthompson4307

    3 жыл бұрын

    looks at myself: wait........

  • @ryanpeterson1588

    @ryanpeterson1588

    3 жыл бұрын

    That was funny to me too hit an inside kidney one of the 12

  • @pinkajou656

    @pinkajou656

    3 жыл бұрын

    I died XD

  • @phoenixapple
    @phoenixapple2 жыл бұрын

    I feel like Urahara Kisuke is a well done CMHB. He starts out as this quirky shopkeeper, but we learn he's one of the most powerful and brilliant Soul Reapers to exist. And while we do see him do more and more badass things, he's also that goofy person. He's someone who at his core is a funny and goofy guy, but is also prepared to cut someone down ruthlessly when needed. He's also one to add his humor into his fights, so it's not a clear on/off switch, it's just who he is.

  • @Hallows4
    @Hallows42 жыл бұрын

    One of my favorite JLU moments is when Superman is an inch away from going psycho on Cadmus, and Flash isn't amused in the slightest. In not so many words, he basically calls Supes out for letting his emotions interfere with his reason, and he's cognizant enough to realize that ripping Cadmus out root and stem wouldn't help the League's reputation or even necessarily solve the problem that Cadmus presents in the first place.

  • @zyaicob

    @zyaicob

    2 жыл бұрын

    I love when the closer to earth heroes call out the big guns on stuff like this. anytime Ollie did it, Flash 'trying to speak for Superman', it really made me critically engage with the media i was consuming, the stories i was being told, and the lessons inherent to them

  • @DDlambchop43

    @DDlambchop43

    2 ай бұрын

    I think I know that scene. "Grammy flash used to say 'the problem with an eye for an eye is everybody ends up blind' "

  • @kyuven
    @kyuven3 жыл бұрын

    I think Saitama from One Punch Man is my favorite version of this trope. He's badass, COMPLETELY badass. But his badassitude is also the joke. He's so incomprehensibly strong that people assume he's just cheating. He lives in a world where a hero who can throw around cars like frisbees is only considered B-rank. His friend, who consistently loses VERY messily to the point it's almost a joke in and of itself, is an S rank. Saitama is stronger than all of these guys, without even really trying. He's also hilarious. Cuz he just wants to do hero stuff because it's the right thing to do. He only wants money for food and rent, and only goes along with the whole ranking system because of the money it provides that would allow him to not worry about it. He only really starts caring about his rank at all when he finds out C-ranks can get kicked out due to inactivity. And he's only C-rank because, as is typical for shonen heroes, he bombed the written portion. He's also more than willing to call villains out on their bullshit. That "OK..." meme with his face is his response to a villain's monologue carrying on a bit too long. He's a conflict killer, and the audience KNOWS he's a conflict killer. But he does it in such absurd ways that it's funny. Like punching a guy who shrugged off several S-rank heroes and straight up killed or dismembered several lower ranked heroes so hard that the sky clears. Then, when the crowds start thinking "Hey, why do we need heroes if they can't stand up to threats like this?!" he admits he "cheated," and engaged in so his fellow heroes' sacrifices wouldn't be glossed over just because he's so freakishly strong. And all this from the guy who got constantly assaulted by an annoying mosquito that he chased into a huge battle scene.

  • @k.5425

    @k.5425

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes. Saitama is just funny. And yh it's so ironic about his cyborg's "disciple" 's rank.

  • @Tebrial

    @Tebrial

    3 жыл бұрын

    Im not sure if I would really call Saitama a crouching moron, hidden badass to be honest. While everyone underestimates him, he never at any point hides his power level behind a facade personality(except for that one time with the deep sea king aftermath), and he isnt even exactly all that comedic. If anything, he's more like a "overdog posed as underdog" character type. Basically a character that the audience knows is badass, but the world, or setting of the series refuses to acknowledge that. Soma from Food Wars is a good example, along with Chivalry of a Failed Knight's Ikki.

  • @jacobnorris8256

    @jacobnorris8256

    3 жыл бұрын

    He's really not "completely badass". He's not really a crouching "moron" either though, more of a "crouching normal dude, hidden badass". Though he has the same effect as a crouching moron. While say his obsession with sales isn't moronic, and just normal with a spice of silly, it's funny regardless exactly because he's so strong. He's so strong that the only things he still cares about are mundane things, and it's funny to see such a powerhouse act like the weekend sale is literally the most important thing ever. It's also made funnier by the fact that he often does these mundane things in the middle of badass situations. He's so damn strong that he doesn't need to care about the fact that the potential destroyer of the planet is standing right in front of him, so he thinks about something mundane instead. That makes it both badass and funny at the same time.

  • @kingkasdin9767

    @kingkasdin9767

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jacobnorris8256 badass normal

  • @malarkeylaboratories3658

    @malarkeylaboratories3658

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jacobnorris8256 this may not be related but it reminded me of an interesting quirk of the mind and how it judges things. so if you have a character and they run from a monster you will think that the monster is much scarier that the person but if you have a person that doesn't bat an eye you will either think they are an idiot or much more of a threat than the monster (basically why lions aren't scared of mice and usually with similar scaling) and for an interesting way to show this is entities listening to them that really shouldn't based on what the audience knows for example why is this mob boss taking orders from this shopkeeper or why does this demon not smash this man to a pile of mush. this leads into the next way to show this off in a subtle way is if a character knows how the utterly terrifying cmhb can be when sufficiently riled and when they sense that it is happening they become agitated but that is what point I may or may not have had

  • @cellochicita
    @cellochicita5 жыл бұрын

    I just realized. This is Sans Undertale.

  • @rinyaskyline

    @rinyaskyline

    5 жыл бұрын

    Y E S

  • @liladuter856

    @liladuter856

    4 жыл бұрын

    First name: Sans Last name: Undertale

  • @jimboanimations4041

    @jimboanimations4041

    4 жыл бұрын

    hello Man on the internet's wife, how is the going

  • @cellochicita

    @cellochicita

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jimboanimations4041 I'm sorry what now?? XD

  • @jimboanimations4041

    @jimboanimations4041

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@cellochicita R/woooosh with the crimge normy

  • @aquapb893
    @aquapb8932 жыл бұрын

    One of my favorite Spider-Man moments in the comics is Dare Devil warning Kingpin to not screw around when Dare Devil went to prison (long story) one of Kingpins crownies asks “or what?” It’s then revealed Spider-Man has been hiding in a corner of the ceiling dead silent and looking pissed EDIT: Daredevil Vol. 6 #23

  • @geoisacat
    @geoisacat2 жыл бұрын

    My favorite example of the CMHB trope is Soren from The Dragon Prince, He is fun and goofy and very much a moron sometimes, but he really gets serious, especially in season 3, when it's super important. Definitely one of my faves. I'm surprised I haven't seen many other people mention him

  • @wjzav1971

    @wjzav1971

    11 ай бұрын

    Not sure if Soren fits though. He is introduced as a capable fighter from the start, just not a very smart guy. And his later heroics don't come from being smarter than people thought but having more heart than people thought. We first see him as a classic jock who bullies the more nerdy Callum and takes evil orders without question. And later we do get to see that he actually does have a moral compass when he frees Esrin and when he turns his back on his father after he turns fully evil. I would say Soren more fits the "Are we the baddies?" trope.

  • @elysseussy
    @elysseussy5 жыл бұрын

    Someone: Idiot Savant Me, an intellectual: *Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass*

  • @thomaspearce9222

    @thomaspearce9222

    4 жыл бұрын

    souns-bout'-right-t'-me

  • @natsukilovestobake4427

    @natsukilovestobake4427

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lee R This comment has 333 likes.

  • @SorowFame

    @SorowFame

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think those are different tropes, I don't know the difference but I think there is one.

  • @willieoelkers5568

    @willieoelkers5568

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@SorowFame An idiot savant is more accidentally bad-ass; they don't change in response to the situation, the situation just happens to be something they're uniquely equipped to handle. Plus they frequently don't get any agency, a problem is just presented to them one way or the other and they fix it because they can't help themselves, it's just what they do. Finally, an idiot savant always has some kind of mental disorder, just being "quirky" isn't enough.

  • @Chupacabra2012
    @Chupacabra20125 жыл бұрын

    Dear Red: Can we get a mug/t-shirt that's says "I'm Magic, Ishtar loves me, and even the Queen of Hell thinks I'm hot."?

  • @leohex8767

    @leohex8767

    5 жыл бұрын

    YES! I want one!

  • @callianr6980

    @callianr6980

    5 жыл бұрын

    Pretty sure they already have both of those. They showed them off on Twitter a few weeks ago.

  • @bambi3845

    @bambi3845

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, they do have that design for their T-Shirts, although I don't know if there is a mug to that same effect.

  • @kristopherbarker3282

    @kristopherbarker3282

    5 жыл бұрын

    I need one now

  • @Chupacabra2012

    @Chupacabra2012

    5 жыл бұрын

    Oh gosh it's true! It does already exist! www.cafepress.com/overlysarcasticproducts.410900101

  • @denholm45
    @denholm452 жыл бұрын

    I loved seeing images of Vash in this. Trigun is my favorite anime of all time to the point that it is the only one I re-watch in it's entirety. I even created a Shadowrun character who wore a trench coat filled with derringers inspired by derringer Meryl. I hardly ever see Trigun mentioned or referenced and I appreciate it being acknowledged.

  • @NOnameNOnamehdhdhd
    @NOnameNOnamehdhdhd2 жыл бұрын

    I really like Rimiru from “That Time I Was Reincarnated as a Slime” as an example of a moronic badass. They fall under the “Acting stupid to gain an advantage over those who underestimate them” archetype. They often use the fact that they are “just a weak slime” to accomplish this on top of acting dumb as though they don’t understand the gravity of what’s happening most of the time, only breaking character when a villain pushes them too far. They let their opponent know this by literally telling them that they’re getting serious now. This is usually where Rimiru puts down their sword, and start using their actual powers, regrowing limbs, transforming into other creatures, using powerful magic, creating body doubles, kirbying the villain’s allies, etc.

  • @timeshark8727

    @timeshark8727

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sounds about right. Lovable slime till that line is crossed, then he's either dissolving the opponent or "Megiddo"...

  • @cameronjensen9397

    @cameronjensen9397

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@timeshark8727 Oh god that Megiddo scene, that was something truly terrifying as thousands of people are getting killed! Though it is funny when the head knight basically came up with the plan to save the king and the bishop, runs out of the tent, and instantly got headshoted. It is funny scene even if it's supposed to invoke terror in us, like it did with the king and bishop.

  • @ScooterBug96

    @ScooterBug96

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@cameronjensen9397 Ah yes Megiddo, simultaneously terrifying and hilarious.

  • @cameronjensen9397

    @cameronjensen9397

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ScooterBug96 Not to mention that we get to see a bunch of greedy morons get their just deserts. And it was funny when the king tried to boss around Rimiru like he had any ounce of power. Of course, I mean that it was funny in a pathetic sort of way.

  • @AarturoSc

    @AarturoSc

    2 жыл бұрын

    Who are you kidding? Rimuru is the perfect definition of Gary Stu/Mary Sue. There’s absolutely no tension in that story due to how overpowered he is. It’s super boring.

  • @Limrasson
    @Limrasson5 жыл бұрын

    So what I learned from this: >Be Jackie Chan >??? >Profit.

  • @Bizarrejoe

    @Bizarrejoe

    5 жыл бұрын

    basically, yes

  • @peiranzhang4283

    @peiranzhang4283

    5 жыл бұрын

    Fun fact, he started in porn.

  • @allyli1718

    @allyli1718

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@peiranzhang4283 why you gotta do me like that?

  • @peiranzhang4283

    @peiranzhang4283

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@allyli1718 Fun fact, he probably fucked all the actresses he shoot with, young girls jump at the opportunity to get famous with one movie. Good for him China don't have a me to movement, otherwise his going to get the death sentence for being a "serial rapist".

  • @pchelagmail
    @pchelagmail5 жыл бұрын

    "... and I'm people". You can't fool us Red! #totallynotrobots

  • @mrclueuin

    @mrclueuin

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hells ya she's people! 👍😀

  • @randomcommenter7343

    @randomcommenter7343

    5 жыл бұрын

    Theory: Red is actually run by a colony of mole people. So she *is* people.

  • @JM-bb8xi

    @JM-bb8xi

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's how she talks so fast? Lol jk

  • @Alpha121198

    @Alpha121198

    5 жыл бұрын

    Brookie Bookie DO NOT INVOKE THE APRIL FOOLS SPEED! That video was so painful to watch!

  • @nasserfirelordarts6574

    @nasserfirelordarts6574

    5 жыл бұрын

    That is very inacurate because I simply am not people...

  • @scientistsquid5675
    @scientistsquid56752 жыл бұрын

    My favorite example of what you said right before you started about Jackie Chan and that’s the time spiderman lost his voice and all the villains where so scared they surrendered because they knew if spiderman was silent he was serious. They also knew he could hospitalize them when he was not serious so it was very threatening.

  • @Bardic_Knowledge
    @Bardic_Knowledge2 жыл бұрын

    There's a surprising number of points mentioned here that evoke the image of Usopp, the weakest member of the Strawhat Pirates.

  • @twendos833

    @twendos833

    Жыл бұрын

    Now now, don't diss my man Usopp for nothing. He is the weakest member of the strawhat crew, but you better believe he's still pretty dang strong!

  • @Bardic_Knowledge

    @Bardic_Knowledge

    Жыл бұрын

    @@twendos833 Well, off course he's pretty dang strong! He's a Strawhat, the strongest crew on the Blue Seas! Being the weakest member of the strongest crew is still pretty dang strong, and that's why he's called God Usopp!

  • @samuelmarquardt7884

    @samuelmarquardt7884

    4 ай бұрын

    isn't luffy a better example?

  • @CaramelFae
    @CaramelFae5 жыл бұрын

    So that's why that line from Heroaca was so great "All Might had arrived...and he was not smiling" Like that shit hit like a truck

  • @thehermit8618

    @thehermit8618

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think its less of a "lovable idiot that's suddenly badass and serious" and more of a "confident badass that has just realized the situation is much more dire than what he initially thought"

  • @MrServantRider

    @MrServantRider

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@thehermit8618 Yeah he's not a crouching moron, hidden badass. He's a straight up confident hero of the people and most people OVERestimate his abilities (considering his injuries have left him weakened). The only example of him being outright underestimated was when the villain alliance overestimated their monster thing that was supposed to defeat him.

  • @Mathignihilcehk

    @Mathignihilcehk

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@MrServantRider The crouching moron hidden badass isn't just about being underestimated though. It's about the character being light-hearted even though they are also a badass... which All Might doesn't do. All Might is a stoic bad-ass through and through. There isn't much comic relief at all in Hero-aca. Contrast with, say, One Piece. Luffy is very much a crouching moron hidden badass. The man-child/goku variant. He acts like a kid the entire time, but also happens to be powerful enough to kick some serious butt... He isn't always underestimated, although he is underestimated a lot in the beginning of the show. That isn't to say he becomes a full-on bad-ass later on in the show. He remains a kid pretty much the whole way through. Sure, he has his rare moments where he'll act super-mature, but those moments are shocking even to his own crew who have been with him for countless adventures.

  • @willieoelkers5568

    @willieoelkers5568

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's more of an Out of Character is Serious Business moment. Now, Mineta completely owning Midnight during the finals was a better example, since up to that point Mineta was presented as nothing more than a whiny perv who probably didn't belong at UA and then he turned around and played a seasoned pro hero like a fiddle. The big distinction is that All Might was always presented as competent, if a bit over the top, while a Crouching Moron needs to be inept in at least one significant area.

  • @CaramelFae

    @CaramelFae

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@thehermit8618 not at all. All Might is a perfect example of the lovably goofy badass. Everyone knows he is powerful, he knows it, yet he always acts goofy. In this scene you finally see him act tough rather than just fun

  • @JetZV
    @JetZV3 жыл бұрын

    Fullmetal Alchemist does a lot with this trope. You've got Ed himself as the "crouching short kid, hidden badass," Izumi Curtis is the "crouching housewife, hidden badass," Ling's got the market on "crouching foreign hobo, hidden badass," and Pride is the embodiment of "crouching first grader, hidden nightmare fuel." And then you have inversions like Armstrong, who acts as a "crouching badass, hidden sweetheart."

  • @adrianjas284

    @adrianjas284

    2 жыл бұрын

    Also Maes Hughs who plays up his obsession with his daughter to fool people into underestimating him.

  • @masterboa6321

    @masterboa6321

    2 жыл бұрын

    this is maes hughes erasure

  • @luckyrobin

    @luckyrobin

    2 жыл бұрын

    Don’t call him short

  • @yohumanfrisk

    @yohumanfrisk

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@adrianjas284 Oh no. . . No no no, don't mention Hughs. . . I didn't want today to be rainy. . .

  • @marywren3998

    @marywren3998

    2 жыл бұрын

    Roy also very deliberately plays up the whole "Playboy" thing so people underestimate him

  • @emcat52
    @emcat52 Жыл бұрын

    I really enjoy the faker CMHB because when the mask falls they can fall into the magnificent bastard character in a really compelling way. Especially if it's a twist villain. "It was a tactical advantage to be underestimated my 'friends'. I gained both an easier battle against my enemies and protection from you. Heroes who assumed I needed it and wanted me to stay safe because I was so gosh darn lovable. Now your friendship and protection are holding me back so I'm afraid you are no longer needed."

  • @aimbotarrow5981
    @aimbotarrow5981 Жыл бұрын

    Gojo is truly a CMHB; he’s so badass that he can basically be goofy without end

  • @seanbigay1042

    @seanbigay1042

    8 ай бұрын

    Who's Gojo?

  • @Rosabella.Thorne7

    @Rosabella.Thorne7

    7 ай бұрын

    @@seanbigay1042 Gojo Satoru from the manga/anime series JJK

  • @sain1536

    @sain1536

    6 ай бұрын

    Which part of Hidden Badass did you not understand? Literally every cursed spirit and sorcerer and their mothers know of Gojo. nothing crouching, nothing hidden.

  • @Mythicalslayer0

    @Mythicalslayer0

    6 ай бұрын

    The point of the archetype is to have the balance of goofy and badass, it doesnt necessarily need to include the hidden part, for example characters may be taken aback by his laidback nature but still understand hes a very powerful sorcerer

  • @sharktos3218

    @sharktos3218

    2 ай бұрын

    @@sain1536 And? Nobody would expect his badassery if they didn't already now him, because he is such a goof

  • @bloopity4117
    @bloopity41173 жыл бұрын

    The entirety of Assassination Classroom is filled with these character archetypes and its super entertaining

  • @oscarvinicios

    @oscarvinicios

    2 жыл бұрын

    ESPECIALLY nagisa

  • @respectfulevil9022

    @respectfulevil9022

    2 жыл бұрын

    ABSOLUTELY

  • @lilithstardust7359

    @lilithstardust7359

    2 жыл бұрын

    that show shouldn't have fucked me up as much as it did back when I watched it probably one of the first things that made me think "hey maybe I need therapy" lol

  • @ritzexists2201

    @ritzexists2201

    2 жыл бұрын

    the whole premise of the show is literally: people who take life way to seriously underestimate this class of kids and their mascot looking teacher and are proven wrong.

  • @aclaymushroomwithaberet7084

    @aclaymushroomwithaberet7084

    2 жыл бұрын

    been wondering if I should watch it just seemed a little to ridiculous to me. Though hearing this makes me want to give it another try so... I'll come back when I finish season one!!!

  • @sse2479
    @sse24794 жыл бұрын

    "weapons grade slapstick" when talking about Jackie Chan. Best quote of the whole video.

  • @enigmace9787

    @enigmace9787

    3 жыл бұрын

    Don't you mean "people like funny and people like awesome, and I'm people"?

  • @sse2479

    @sse2479

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@enigmace9787 Don't you mean, "I've been abused by narcissists, so I like to point out when others express joy that they are doing it for their own benefit to some degree"

  • @StarshadowMelody

    @StarshadowMelody

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@enigmace9787 Don't you mean **insert the video's entire script**

  • @pumpkinghead15
    @pumpkinghead152 жыл бұрын

    My favorite CMHB has to be LORD ESCANOR from Seven Deadly Sins. I think he's a great example of how the Split Personality archetype can actually be done really well. The way the fight between Escanor and Estarossa is handled is just so immaculate. They punctuate the Leader and protagonist of the 5-man band being beaten to a pulp by this terrible powerful foe and then immediately the CMHB *exsists* and the foe evaporates. So satisfying and so impactful.

  • @cylnder

    @cylnder

    2 жыл бұрын

    i'm still mad at the animation studio responsible for season 3

  • @Zagaroth
    @Zagaroth Жыл бұрын

    I love how your first two 'Fakers' are exactly the first two characters who jumped to my mind with the trope. (Vash and Kenshin)

  • @souldragonlunar96
    @souldragonlunar964 жыл бұрын

    When she mentioned" Food, Fighting, and Friendship," I immediately thought " Welp, that's the entire plot of fairy tail .

  • @batyalivni3577

    @batyalivni3577

    4 жыл бұрын

    I was thinking One Piece 😂

  • @steveempiremantra2120

    @steveempiremantra2120

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@batyalivni3577 nah

  • @steveempiremantra2120

    @steveempiremantra2120

    4 жыл бұрын

    Facts

  • @batyalivni3577

    @batyalivni3577

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@steveempiremantra2120 ok, how so

  • @bru9383

    @bru9383

    4 жыл бұрын

    Shonen anime at its core.

  • @futtynucker5278
    @futtynucker52784 жыл бұрын

    You forgot the all powerful Crouching Cinnamon Roll, Hidden Monster.

  • @Evielicious

    @Evielicious

    4 жыл бұрын

    NATSUKI

  • @Evielicious

    @Evielicious

    4 жыл бұрын

    SAYORI

  • @TheAymeric51

    @TheAymeric51

    4 жыл бұрын

    DEKU

  • @spachino7351

    @spachino7351

    4 жыл бұрын

    OLAF

  • @ShinigamiSparda

    @ShinigamiSparda

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nezuko?

  • @cassiedevereaux-smith3890
    @cassiedevereaux-smith389011 ай бұрын

    That Flash scene! Perfect example. As someone who was a fan of Mark Waid's run, and knows that when he's up to speed he can punch Superman to the moon and leave him in a crater, I wated to see what the DCAU Flash could do when he cut loose. This may not have been that, but good golly. Seeing him towering over Luthiac was the moment you could see what he could really do, and for the first time, you saw him deadly serious and holding nothing back. You knew it was over for the bad guys. They could not withstand his power.... you just didn't know what he was gonna do with it. He was so badass, and it was so satisflying to see.

  • @theelike4302
    @theelike4302 Жыл бұрын

    I gotta shout out Gintama for fusing funny and awesome together very well. Not every episode is perfect but there are some moments of pure gold in there.

  • @danielbeaney4407
    @danielbeaney44073 жыл бұрын

    The Flash arc (and really the CHMB) reminds me of an old saying. There are 3 things all wise men fear a storm at sea, a night with no moon and the anger of a gentle man.

  • @OuchingTigerLimpingDragon

    @OuchingTigerLimpingDragon

    3 жыл бұрын

    Eyyyy, another Name of the Wind fan!

  • @matthewcox4997

    @matthewcox4997

    3 жыл бұрын

    That’s not an old saying 😂 But awesome quote I love that book series

  • @matthewcox4997

    @matthewcox4997

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Revan Ji maybe in another decade 😭

  • @KezanzatheGreat

    @KezanzatheGreat

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Demons run when a good man goes to war"

  • @A1D3N_T13

    @A1D3N_T13

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wise words from wise people, not surprising

  • @charliefarmer4365
    @charliefarmer43653 жыл бұрын

    Iroh is he perfect example. In the first couple episodes, he comes off as lazy, but in the third one, he starts acting wisely. He continues acting like a goof with a love for tea for the rest of the series, with plenty of wisdom, and some serious moments.

  • @e4ehco21

    @e4ehco21

    3 жыл бұрын

    Have I ever told you why they call me the dragon of the west

  • @Krahazik

    @Krahazik

    2 жыл бұрын

    The trick with him is that there are people who know how much of a bad-ass he is capable of as he was a known bad-ass in his prime. A retired bad-ass who plays up the old gig so people assume he is no-longer capable of the bad-assery of his youth. Also most of the people he is dealing with are to young to have actually witnessed him at his prime so his bad-assery is more legend or story based not something tangible. Until he shows that he still got it.

  • @LoneSilverW0lf

    @LoneSilverW0lf

    2 жыл бұрын

    I also read a few bits where he played up the goofball bit for Zuko. I can’t remember the whole of it, but someone mentioned that he was trying to say ‘it’s ok to be easygoing sometimes. Look at me, a living legend still able to kick ass, really loves tea and pai sho!’ He really loves that boy.

  • @eggtarts286

    @eggtarts286

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm not interested in another fuddy-duddy story, Uncle

  • @Eddafred

    @Eddafred

    2 жыл бұрын

    Delicious tea? Or D E A D L Y P O I S O N?

  • @BluesM18A1
    @BluesM18A12 жыл бұрын

    my favorite version of this has to be Trevor Belmont where he's normally a tired stumbling drunk but seems to wake up a little when it's time to use his dormant combat abilities and strategist skills.

  • @Hallows4
    @Hallows4 Жыл бұрын

    This got me thinking about Deeks from NCIS Los Angeles. Pretty much from the beginning he was written to be a self-aware comedy relief character, and even though he’s a a fully capable agent, what sticks out more in my memory is his surprising emotional intelligence. When any member of the team - especially Kensi - is experiencing some kind of internal turmoil, he’s the one who can really pinpoint what’s going on, and even if he doesn’t fully understand, he doesn’t hesitate to offer an ear and sympathy.

  • @coolgirl6236
    @coolgirl62365 жыл бұрын

    I thought the title said “Crouching Mormon” and I was really confused

  • @internetperson3436

    @internetperson3436

    5 жыл бұрын

    Crouching mormon, hidden atheist

  • @hibiscusflowers4436

    @hibiscusflowers4436

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sierrah SAME

  • @jacobwilson8579

    @jacobwilson8579

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lets make a mobie called Kungfu Mormons

  • @chelnahtheegghead

    @chelnahtheegghead

    5 жыл бұрын

    I was worried this was some kind of call-out video about my church lol.

  • @mak3x7

    @mak3x7

    5 жыл бұрын

    same

  • @Valkyrie2702
    @Valkyrie27024 жыл бұрын

    "This walking, talking force of nature thinks marriage is something you eat" describes one of my characters so well it HURTS.

  • @burnttoast.2017

    @burnttoast.2017

    4 жыл бұрын

    Goku. Fucking Goku, man.

  • @aokhoinguyenang3992

    @aokhoinguyenang3992

    4 жыл бұрын

    You know what's funny there is a manga that combine the split personality & the pretender: Samurai deeper Kyo. When we fist met the protag: Mibu Kyoshiro , he has 2 personalities(Kyo the bad-ass & Kyoshiro the dumb-ass). But later on we found out that they're 2 different people: Kyoshiro defeated & seal Kyo soul in his body(because a powerful opponent want to kill Kyo but he's a hot head who would rather die than run away so Kyoshiro seal his soul, hide his body then ran away). They're constanly fighting for control-> as weak a a normal man until one relinquished control to the other

  • @ScrawnyTreeDemon

    @ScrawnyTreeDemon

    4 жыл бұрын

    Incredible, tell your character I love them

  • @seanwaddell2659

    @seanwaddell2659

    3 жыл бұрын

    “My name is Micheal J. Caboose, and I hate taxes!!!” “It’s Texas you idiot!” “Those too!”

  • @sanityisrelative

    @sanityisrelative

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@seanwaddell2659 I was thinking Tucker for this trope, but honestly all of the Reds and Blues fit. It's like an entire series of CMHB.

  • @nathanjereb9944
    @nathanjereb9944 Жыл бұрын

    A somewhat related character trope: "somone that has god-like powers but with a mind and/or body of a child" Ex: The Collecter from The Owl House

  • @praetorurbanus2917
    @praetorurbanus291711 ай бұрын

    Mild case: Col. Jack O'Neill from Stargate SG-1. Faker archetype, and quite fun.

  • @KellithV
    @KellithV5 жыл бұрын

    My wife is pretty much the social embodiment of this. Shes full on ADHD, clumsy, silly, sometimes childish and extremely excitable. She also completely annihilates the competition at her sales-centric job, can make nearly anyone feel like they want whatever she wants them to and can manipulate a conversation in such a way that you not only think that doing what she wants you to do is the best idea but was actually your idea in the first place. She can tell within seconds of seeing a person the perfect way to address them and relate to them on a natural and personal level, getting them to open up and reveal things to her after just minutes that they would not tell their friends of years. It's a good thing she's Chaotic Good and enjoys actually helping people; I'd hate to think what a selfish person could do with her talents.

  • @kingbubbles9461

    @kingbubbles9461

    4 жыл бұрын

    KellithV What if she’s only making you think she’s chaotic good?

  • @Scientin

    @Scientin

    4 жыл бұрын

    Clearly she maxed out her Charisma scores.

  • @justas423

    @justas423

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think your wife was super villain

  • @bellringer53

    @bellringer53

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@justas423 now I want a sitcom about this. Suburban mom who sells her own organic whatcha ma call it's used to be the big bad duper villain but married the big hero butonly they know it so they have to hide the truth from their friends (other heroes/villains) and their kid that is getting really suspicious and why does Xander have a flamethrower. Damnit Janet!!!

  • @gabriel300010

    @gabriel300010

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@bellringer53 omg yes please.

  • @fabulousfloof3546
    @fabulousfloof35464 жыл бұрын

    Zenitsu from Demon Slayer: Braindamaged anime girl with amnesia who's only useful once he faints from pure fear.

  • @prabhavsthapit653

    @prabhavsthapit653

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes!!!

  • @Devils_Lair_Comics

    @Devils_Lair_Comics

    4 жыл бұрын

    Isn't Zennitsu a dude?

  • @hiimchrisj

    @hiimchrisj

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Devils_Lair_Comics Pretty sure he's just making a joke in reference to how she explains in the video that this is usually an anime GIRL thing whereas anime GUYS are usually the manchild type.

  • @xanderstewart2965

    @xanderstewart2965

    4 жыл бұрын

    More anime, I think saitama sort of fits this but he's not actually a moron, he's super powerful and competent but everyone just assumed he's an idiot

  • @pshalleck

    @pshalleck

    4 жыл бұрын

    Zenitsu was conscious for his most useful moment: protecting the box.

  • @CapitalCLYDE
    @CapitalCLYDE9 ай бұрын

    Toph will play into this archetype in Avatar when it benefits her/ Team Avatar. I always find it enjoyable to watch her decimate leagues of other benders.

  • @jankachowski
    @jankachowski11 ай бұрын

    I just realised that Kirito from SAO Abridged is a perfectly executed CMHB. In the moment penultimate to dual wielding reveal, where he rejects an idea of helping people and makes a pun after the Nagano Spanish Guitar guy dies.

  • @owenbillo5513
    @owenbillo55134 жыл бұрын

    I feel like Drax from Guardians of the Galaxy is a reverse CMHB. In normal situations he's overly serious, but in combat he's actually kinda useless.

  • @whoknows7968

    @whoknows7968

    4 жыл бұрын

    I feel like Drax is another one of those unintended victims of the Worf Effect

  • @amiaeams7522

    @amiaeams7522

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@whoknows7968 what is the worf affect

  • @whoknows7968

    @whoknows7968

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@amiaeams7522 Basically it's where a character the audience knows to be strong is soundly defeated by a villain to show just how powerful the villain is. If it happens to a character once that's not a problem but the worf effect is when it happens to the same character repeatedly. It ends up making a character that used to seem tough look like a weakling because they have gotten beaten up by literally everybody.

  • @maxwellsimon4538

    @maxwellsimon4538

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well Drax did get swallowed by crazy monsters and put through all other kinds of punishment without really getting a scratch on him. He's also had his fair share of victories too. He's less of a ruthless killer badass, more of an unkillable tank badass. Though I'd still say he's kind of useless, just not fully under the worf effect.

  • @whoknows7968

    @whoknows7968

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@maxwellsimon4538 Another sign of a worf, name a character Drax beat in a one-on-one fight. Not a gune, a named character. If not, he's a worf through and through.

  • @starfyre59
    @starfyre595 жыл бұрын

    The crouching moron hidden badass trop saved Thor's character. Thank you Ragnorok.

  • @toatahu2003

    @toatahu2003

    5 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately, it also ruined the story of that movie... But at least it was good for a laugh...

  • @starfyre59

    @starfyre59

    5 жыл бұрын

    I respectfully disagree. I loved the movie@@toatahu2003

  • @astrobookwormsinger

    @astrobookwormsinger

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@toatahu2003 pretty much yeah

  • @toatahu2003

    @toatahu2003

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@starfyre59 Don't misunderstand, it WAS a good movie. An excellent comedy. It accomplished exactly what it set out to do. It DID revitalize a stale character. However, all the drama and important character moments for these characters that have been built up over several movies... Absolutely spit upon... For the sake of a laugh. Thor lost his hammer, is hair, his honor, his father, his best friends, his home, and many of his people, an did any of that have any kind of impact on him or the audience? Nope. Because all that emotion was undercut with humor, even when it didn't need to be.

  • @toatahu2003

    @toatahu2003

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm very torn over the movie. I loved its humor, laughed at every joke, and it was what truly made me a fan of Thor, as I was pretty on the fence before. But... When I see everything that happens to the character, and how much great story they sacrificed... It's kinda painful to think about... It's like eating the best hamburger of your life, only to watch them grind up a delicious steak in order to make it...

  • @advaittdeshmukh3023
    @advaittdeshmukh30232 жыл бұрын

    3:54 "marriage is something you it eat" and now my stomach hurts of laughing omg Red you are a genius. XD

  • @lsedge7280
    @lsedge72802 жыл бұрын

    I have a D&D character whom I suppose is 'The Manchild' because they've grown up in a weird, somewhat goofy, and utterly relatively alien culture (aka the Feywild) and so socially to everyone else they seem kind of goofy. They aren't self-aware of their silliness, or at least that it is silliness, most of the time, albeit they know they are different. They are objectively powerful, and even kind of perceptive, but just naive and kind of stupid. They will kill the monsters hiding in the tavern basement, and then proceed to try and sell the barrels of wine back to the owner.

  • @clorbdorb1245
    @clorbdorb12454 жыл бұрын

    My favorite version of this trope is a loveable idiot who just wants to live a carefree life indulging in the things that make them happy. Their badassery only appears when someone tries to take one of those things away from them. For example, CMHB is chasing butterflies. A threat appears trying to get them to engage in an epic battle. CMHB takes one whole second to obliterate this threat because THIS IS BUTTERFLY TIME, DAMMIT, WAIT YOUR TURN!

  • @bardofvoid174

    @bardofvoid174

    4 жыл бұрын

    Honestly reminds me of One Punch Man

  • @theknightskyisi

    @theknightskyisi

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mine from ascendance of a bookworm is this to some extent. The locals often seem to think of her as a cloud cookoolander or as a bunny-eared lawyer (if they recognize her brilliance) because her real-world memories make her react in ways they don't understand. But she can be kinda dumb when it comes to her main motivators: her family, friends and books as she prioritizes them over what most people there consider common sense. It's funny though that despite being the physically weakest human protagonist I can think of she's actually really dangerous for spoiler reasons i.e. having an overpowering wellspring of magic inside that threatens to kill you can become useful when emotions take over.

  • @neroquin

    @neroquin

    4 жыл бұрын

    Someone give me examples of this. I love it but never know where to find it.

  • @thehumanflintfun9666

    @thehumanflintfun9666

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@neroquin I think Joseph Joestar and Josuke Higashikata from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure fit this trope. Can someone else confirm?

  • @macomo9131

    @macomo9131

    4 жыл бұрын

    Kirby

  • @DadCanInJapan
    @DadCanInJapan5 жыл бұрын

    Bugs Bunny - definitely underestimated by anyone who tangled with him. "You realize, this means war".

  • @maddieonthemoon8653

    @maddieonthemoon8653

    5 жыл бұрын

    I can't tell you how grateful I am for this comment.

  • @tenhirankei

    @tenhirankei

    5 жыл бұрын

    No, it's "you do realize, this means war."

  • @DadCanInJapan

    @DadCanInJapan

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@tenhirankei Actually he says it many times. In the clip I was basing it on, he actually says, "Of course, you realize, this means war." I dropped the "of course". kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZoyC1I97gcrWlJM.html

  • @quirtorium546

    @quirtorium546

    5 жыл бұрын

    Bugs Bunny is my favorite drag queen

  • @UTYuetu

    @UTYuetu

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @sadib100
    @sadib1002 жыл бұрын

    Herlock Sholmes from the Great Ace Attorney Chronicles is one of my favorite CMHBs.

  • @infinityc2859

    @infinityc2859

    Ай бұрын

    Yes! I was hoping someone would mention him, he's such an amazing character

  • @chloej1611
    @chloej1611 Жыл бұрын

    I have a character who is described perfectly by this trope! They're definitely a manchild, but they also lean slightly into faker territory. Loads of snark and pranking and intentionally annoying bestie. Lots of screamfests. Lots of oops-I-accidentally-set-myself-on-fire-with-my-own-magic. The funny only goes away when the aforementioned bestie is in some real deep shit.

  • @nimrodlabin8276
    @nimrodlabin82763 жыл бұрын

    There is another version: the saitama. He is so badass he just doesn’t need to care and as such he is a frequent source of comedy.

  • @gormauslander

    @gormauslander

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is very difficult to pull off without getting old, and I haven't seen it done outside one punch

  • @PokeMultiverse

    @PokeMultiverse

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@gormauslander Honestly I think the reason it works is that the characters goal is tied to wanting a struggle yet he overqualified himself. His overall depression allows him to slip under the radar, which opens up a lot of the jokes, not to mention King's backstory being the epitome of using that fact for a joke. Also, the author juxtaposed him with mumen rider against the sea king perfectly. Saitama became a hero for fun yet he found himself so OP that he can't have any fun and not only that but he's so strong that others dont believe it and flame him. I think the way to pull it off is to make the internal goal actively hurt by the fact that theyre overpowered. I think that's also why early superman worked yet it's so narrow that a lot of remakes fail because they can't give him an internal conflict that cant be solved by being a badass.

  • @jonc5467

    @jonc5467

    2 жыл бұрын

    She showed the Trigun main character, which also fits this trope. He doesn't give 2 shits and is just trying to do stuff, but is actually a fucking savant at murdering people.

  • @majesticm4808

    @majesticm4808

    2 жыл бұрын

    Saitama is also a gag character. His conflict is with his strength; he wants something to come along and challenge him. Any other character with different motives who just effortlessly glassed their opponents without casualties would be boring. Vash almost fits but he cares about casualties.

  • @tehrik0020

    @tehrik0020

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gormauslander It doesn't get old through OPM because while Saitama is the main character of the series, he's almost never the main character of the single episodes and shows up towards the end to clean eventual mess, for instance in Garou's arc the entirety of the focus has been mostly on Garou, Saitama intervening once in a blue moon. Besides, Saitama is a savant, as it's shown that in a multitude of different situations that do not involve combat he's kind of a loser, OPM also does a great job at making you wishing for Saitama to kick some ass, as everyone underestimates him for his unremarkability while Saitama himself does not get offended for it and does not retaliate until he feels like either the situation is escalating, or one of his "triggers" is pulled, namely making fun of his baldness. To name more examples, I'd say Henry Killinger in the Venture Bros can also be valid in this regard. Venture Bros also had perhaps one of the most iconic CMHB characters to ever exist in Henchman 21.

  • @anonymousbub3410
    @anonymousbub34103 жыл бұрын

    Percy Jackson kind of fits into the 0 confidence goofball.

  • @arianamaria_

    @arianamaria_

    3 жыл бұрын

    In the first couple of books but by TLO and on he was aware of his powers, he was just Fucking Done™ with the gods and their bullshit and his sass filter started failing

  • @dmen7280

    @dmen7280

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@arianamaria_ good thing he was still funny in his head

  • @Pyranders

    @Pyranders

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dmen7280 Let's just be happy Riordan sanitized Greek mythology a bit. I doubt "Chapter 7. I find out my uncle is a serial rapist." would be a terribly enjoyable experience.

  • @Bet_On_Me

    @Bet_On_Me

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@arianamaria_ My favorite part is when he sees he is carrying Hera on a dream and just DROPS her

  • @MalloonTarka

    @MalloonTarka

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Pyranders Or "I find out my dad is a serial rapist". Yeah, Greek mythology, pretty on the outside, all kinds of f**ked up underneath.

  • @romerus6087
    @romerus60872 жыл бұрын

    "15:35" I thought of Luffy from One Piece as soon as you asked the question. Most fights he's pretty badass and funny

  • @fancyfree535
    @fancyfree5352 жыл бұрын

    Of my favorite CMHBs is Ochako Uraraka from my hero academia. At first we see the “love interest probably volunteer for the animal shelter or orphanage could do no wrong” side of her.But she is completely prepared to whip out the badass when needed.And yet she still maintains the goofy image with her classmates.

  • @desmanostrikes5644
    @desmanostrikes56444 жыл бұрын

    You need to a trope talk about the very common trope of “magical mentor is hiding secrets from the protagonist” god this happens so much

  • @jtosety

    @jtosety

    4 жыл бұрын

    Does it count as a trope if there are zero times when it's *not* done?

  • @SorowFame

    @SorowFame

    4 жыл бұрын

    tosety I think that's like making a trope out of characters sitting on chairs.

  • @Silverwind87

    @Silverwind87

    4 жыл бұрын

    Don't forget almost saying something important before dying.

  • @psykedude

    @psykedude

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just because something happens doesn't mean it's bad. You might as well argue about there being conflict imo.

  • @dannymaurice5543

    @dannymaurice5543

    3 жыл бұрын

    *cough* Jiraiya *cough* fucking hate that trope

  • @davehoffman4659
    @davehoffman46595 жыл бұрын

    "And guess what, people like funny and people like awesome, and I'm people" -Red 2019

  • @noxlupa2996
    @noxlupa2996 Жыл бұрын

    You know who definitely fits this definition? Bee from bee and puppy cat 😎

  • @Rays326
    @Rays3262 жыл бұрын

    No mention of DMC: “What the hell is this?” -Dante, Probably.