The smart thing to do with this is to take the same photo and make subtle and terrifying changes to it over the course of the entire two years to make the person feel like they're going insane or the thing is haunted.

@25566

Жыл бұрын

I thought that was the idea... Get a group pic and start changing things moving people around, adding famous people, putting weird hats every day. Someone did that manually swapping the picture every day until their parents noticed, can't find the video.

@MelroyvandenBerg

Жыл бұрын

exactly this!

@d3ath1nsuranc3

Жыл бұрын

or something like dorian gray would be funny

@levoniust

Жыл бұрын

Back to the future. That would be a great prank.

@Ben-OConnor

Жыл бұрын

This might be the best idea there has ever been in the history of humanity!

all that work for your mom to be mildly impressed

@kaustubhumak8504

Жыл бұрын

For moms anythings worth it.

@ethyr

Жыл бұрын

she seems very smart. probably knew what was up immediately

@moritz584

Жыл бұрын

@@ethyr yeah, you don’t set up a cam to give your mom a framed pic

@Hellsong89

Жыл бұрын

Curse of high expectations. Its good to fail sometimes and tell about it, so you dont get miracle worker reputation. I mean sure i can do miracles but that takes time and there are things even i cant do, mostly coding and electronics.

@lePoMo

Жыл бұрын

This may me a case of: In Poker, you can't bluff a player who doesn't know the value of the cards. Meaning unless she follows along tech, she can't judge how special this is. There's smartphones, there's smart-homes that control themselves, there are AI voice assisants. A photo frame that changes pictures will not shock such a user.

The fact that she realised it changed means she really liked it and put it on display where she would be able to look at it everyday ❤️

@hippopotamus86

Жыл бұрын

"Bill, shall I throw this POS gift out? It's the same damn picture as I already got, how did he not know? Oh wait, never mind".

@CNLohr

Жыл бұрын

He totes promised me he wouldn't say anything.

@swedneck

Жыл бұрын

"Damnit mom you were supposed to be confused not appreciative!"

@agentspencer6276

6 ай бұрын

I figured she just tried to switch out the photo and use the frame since she already had it up. Then she noticed all the wires and was like, nope...

Your Mom is a great user - she knew exactly that it has changed itself after 24 hours and only asked you for a single "Yes Mum!" :)

@LRM12o8

Жыл бұрын

She probably opened the picture frame the moment she thought something was weird XD

@Nevil_Ton

Жыл бұрын

Behind the any smart man defensively is a smart Mom.

@makers_lab

Жыл бұрын

Great project, but not so sure about trying to make his mum think she has Alzheimer's. Happy that she knew exactly what was going on.

@TheTuttle99

Жыл бұрын

@@makers_lab BARF. give it up. You don't have to find something to complain about with everything you come across. And that one's a stretch.

@makers_lab

Жыл бұрын

@@TheTuttle99 Of course that wasn't his intention, and it's a fun gag, but it wouldn't have been nice to have pushed it further.

1:04 the way this changes on this particular photo looks awesome... it looks like the light is turning on and illuminating the scene

@CNLohr

3 жыл бұрын

I think this is a particularly compelling aspect of the display.

@HarryPorpise

Жыл бұрын

It looks a lot like the RDR2 loading screens with the developing film, it looks really cool!

@libertyauto

Жыл бұрын

@s8wc3 No kidding! Even sort of blinking like an old Neon light struggling to start up.

@gacattack1234

Жыл бұрын

Needs to change over more often, a charging circuit and a USB socket is in order.

@jonathanclark7444

Жыл бұрын

@@HarryPorpise thats what I was going to say it really does

"Mom look what I made" is a feeling, same for kids of all ages.

@CNLohr

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad I could still do that for my mom.

@reidleblanc3140

Жыл бұрын

I wish I understood that feeling

@CNLohr

Жыл бұрын

@@Mega-Brick :(

This is actually a really good implementation of a digital photo frame. The use of e-ink and only changing the photo every 24 hours (or more) makes it much more unobtrusive than the ones that were such a fad over a decade ago.

@ThomasLock

7 ай бұрын

Absolutely. Add a changeable battery and maybe bleutooth for changing images and this is a great product.

@tenalpoen

7 ай бұрын

It's literally just the screen. It doesn't come with malware or ANY ware. The guy had to make his own driver for it. Did you even watch the video?

@goigle

5 ай бұрын

@@tenalpoen they are referring to an incident with old digital photo frames that had malware. that's why he said "like the old ones"

@tenalpoen

5 ай бұрын

Everyone knows about those. This is not a digital photo frame product being sold by anyone. It's just a display with no driver, power supply, or anything else. If you were to buy it, you wouldn't be able to do anything with it on its own.

@goigle

5 ай бұрын

@@tenalpoen yeah he was just making a joke lmao

I really think what you should have done was have a series of the same picture, but edited more and more with Photoshop so that it diverged more and more from reality over time (change the position of people, fiddle with hairstyles, change the color of clothing, etc), and saw how long it took her to notice that something wasn't right...

@andreivaughn1468

Жыл бұрын

This is a very good suggestion, the best thing he could have done!

@JaydenLawson

Жыл бұрын

Had the same idea! Made subtle changes to make her lose her mind haha. And only change things every few days or once a week - not once a day.

@andreivaughn1468

Жыл бұрын

​@@Melian_Dialogue Dude, you and all the people saying "don't make your mom think she's got memory/congnitive issues, that's a mean thing to do" can really shut up. Don't you realise this kind of "joke" can be played on almost anybody? It's not made extra funny just because you do it to an older person. Literally most normal people aren't thinking that, I've only seen it mentioned in comments criticising the joke! There are some "stars" that need to line up for this to work, namely you need someone who would appreciate such a gift in the first place, and actually still puts up pictures around the house, but someone that's not gonna fuss over matching styles and reframing the photo, etc etc. A mom makes perfect sense for this kind of thing... and sure you get some wholesome points for it too, but the joke works just as well if it were some 22 y/o doing it to their 49 y/o mom, no need to have connotations of "going senile". You and others are just fabricating that, because it seems you can't fathom such a joke being ok?

@CNLohr

Жыл бұрын

I really like this idea! I wish I had thought of this more before doing it. If only I had two moms.

@brett-westgrove-country-music

7 ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly! Could have been a much better pay off

When I saw the title and the thumbnail, I thought you were making a picture frame that, when your mother was visiting, displayed an edited version of a picture with some family member she didn't get along with edited out. I'm very pleased that the actual project was so much more wholesome, and that it worked so well, and that your mom didn't seem remotely surprised that you made something like this. Cheers!

@CNLohr

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks :)

@jackkraken3888

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking they were going to do like a photoshop type prank where while no one noticed a picture is taken and then added to the picture frame.

@DieselRamcharger

Жыл бұрын

Covid believers tend to not ask many questions.

@Axodus

Жыл бұрын

Based on the thumbnail and title I assumed the video was going to be a prank in the more typical sense where when your mother is alone it displays a ghost in the background of the photos but when other people are there the ghost disappears.

@dieSpinnt

Жыл бұрын

@@DieselRamcharger I am very sorry that I have to disappoint you. There's no reason for "believe" here at all. Such things can easily be proved by science. Your saying says a lot more about you than you might be aware of, because apparently YOUR world view is based on such naive foundations and you simply infer others from yourself. So you made just an absolute complete idiot out of yourself beside that you brabble was off-topic. Oh and you can't be a troll. They have usually more than one brain-cells (in most cases two ... so that they can be friends in that desert).

+1 for in depth video

@CNLohr

3 жыл бұрын

Ok, ok, I get it. This comment has 42 upvotes.

10 minutes of Ben being a technical wizard and a bonus minute of Ben's mom being twice as smart as he is. ❤

You say moving forward your videos wont be as in depth? I really loved the depth of this project and i think its a really cool idea

@zaprodk

3 жыл бұрын

Agree.

@CNLohr

3 жыл бұрын

This is literally the most liked video I have ever made at 1,000 views, I think. We're at under 3,000 and I'm already up to 630 likes. So, maybe I can't get out of making other videos like this?

@jakecrowley6

3 жыл бұрын

I certainly enjoy the more in depth videos

@zaprodk

3 жыл бұрын

@@CNLohr Yassssss!

@klaernie

3 жыл бұрын

@@CNLohr I think the problem is: you explain clearly your what you want to do, and how you achieved it. Some of your other videos turned me off, because somewhere along the way you lost me. I generally like what you do, and am really impressed by the amount of knowledge you have, I myself couldn't implement a protocol like scsi for life of me, but the process there sometimes is long winded and hard to understand, so I get it that editing this down and preparing a nice presentation is really hard.

was half hoping each day was a subtly different edited picture and after 2 months its a completely different picture... and now i'm imagining frames from a video that progressively gets weirder amazing idea and really sweet execution

@CNLohr

Жыл бұрын

A couple other people have suggested similar ideas. I really like it.

Your mum has a great son, actually. Your code is optimised (in first look), and you always do great job with all of your projects.

@CNLohr

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@seanseoltoir

Жыл бұрын

Because every "great son" tries to make their mother think she has Alzheimer's? :(

@weegle.

Жыл бұрын

@@seanseoltoir oh shut up you old hack

@Qstate

Жыл бұрын

Because only a great son writes efficient code

What would be a bit more tricky would be to load it with a number of almost identical shots. Usually for family photos you’d take maybe 6 shots and the choose the best, imagine check the photo each morning and wondering if that expression on someone’s face was the same as yesterday?

@CNLohr

Жыл бұрын

That is *really* sneaky!

For anyone that's thinking of making something like this today, there's this company called Pimoroni that has made a board with an eink display, rpi pico w, SD card reader, and some other features built right in. They also have custom firmware that makes setting pictures super easy. Highly recommend if you want something more simple and easy to set up

I really appreciated all of the detail that you went into here. I hope that you make more videos like that.

Floyd-Steinberg dithering is awesome. I like how simple it is, and that it only looks ahead in the buffer, not requiring a second buffer for final image storage("In-place").

@CNLohr

3 жыл бұрын

It really is amazing, but I found out bizquit has something that's even better for some applications. I hope to try it in the future. Look up "Joel Yliluoma's arbitrary-palette positional dithering algorithm"

@Maxjoker98

3 жыл бұрын

@@CNLohr Hehe, already knew that one :P It's great though, way more capable than "vanilla" Floyd-Steinberg(but also more complex). bizquit is awesome, he's the main reason I started doing graphics programming.

I had no ida there was a 7 colour display like this. It honestly looks really good. Cool project too, it's funny how mum's are pleased even if they don't understand it haha.

My Gosh! I clicked on this just because the Title was Interesting. The level of Detail and all the technical Knowledge you provided to us is just Phenominal. Thank You for taking the time!

What an awesome project, thanks for sharing!

This was an amazing investigation and implementation, I've never seen any other KZreadr, colleague, or person be more invested in a project than you normally do.

@CNLohr

3 жыл бұрын

I usually don't go in unless I go all in :-D

thanks for linking the Applied Science video in the description. that was actually really interesting to watch!

That's really nice that you did that for your mom. very cool project!

I think a lot of people would rather have something like this because it's less distracting when you have it in your living room. It's also cool to see it change if it changes every hour or so. You can have all your memories in one house now!

@wiiu7640

Жыл бұрын

@@kurtlamprecht93 No you haven't. The reason why you couldn't store all your memories in your house is because you were unable to frame every picture. technically you can have a photo album or box of photos, but what I'm saying is very different. You don't really have all of your memories when it's in a box or the hard drive of a computer. Having an e-inc display for photos gives you some of those memories back because otherwise they would be collecting dust or taking up storage on your phone or something like that. You are right, but if you're going to go that far you could easily say that the only place where all of your memories are stored is your brain.

What a neat idea! I love electronics projects, and this one seems like a pretty fun gift idea!

Very creative - love watching what other makers are up to

note, i absolutely loved how in-depth this video was. you seem like you know a lot of cool stuff :)

E ink is awesome stuff, cant wait for them to get even better.

@JL-pc2eh

2 жыл бұрын

27th - 29th April at Taiwan Touch (a fair) a new generation of E Ink will be presented. This new gen of screens will be able too do animations and videos. They didn't announce a refreshrate. I can't wait for it.

@CircuitrinosOfficial

Жыл бұрын

@kızgın tosbağa 15 second refresh is kinda slow

@CircuitrinosOfficial

Жыл бұрын

@kızgın tosbağa Even for a color e-reader. Waiting 15 seconds to turn the page of a color comic book is a bit tedious.

@CircuitrinosOfficial

Жыл бұрын

@kızgın tosbağa did you mean to say "seconds" ?

@CircuitrinosOfficial

Жыл бұрын

@kızgın tosbağa It would be very good as a billboard since you only need to turn on lights at light. During the day it would use almost no power.

cool - I need to get one of those displays asap! game changer for e-paper

@CNLohr

3 жыл бұрын

Get it

I want to make one of these for a friend but just use, like, 20 images in sequence that are just the same picture of us but more and more zoomed in for each one, until after a couple of weeks it’s just, like, their eyes or something. What an incredible video! Love how much detail you put into what could have just been a basic rundown of a silly project!

In depth video is appreciated. That is hilarious; your mom is great.

Bro wears a mask programming alone in his house 😂 With glasses, I could never

@Lipi19821

7 ай бұрын

yea I could not believe the insanity.... 😮 edit: yea its 3 year old video, but still...I would never ever, even then😂😂😂😂

@CellTherapyCream

6 ай бұрын

LOLZ the brainwashing is strong with this one.

@SimonCoates

6 ай бұрын

Bro not posted a video in 6 months. Hope he's fully boosted.

I think to confuse her you could've photoshopped a series of the same photo, just move persons around, add hats etc. Then it could've taken a while to really figure out what has happened. But more seriously, that's a sweet gift!

Love the project and details. Thank you for sharing this.

@CNLohr

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I watched the stream of you messing with this a while ago, glad to see it finished!

This is above my level of understanding, but, this is completely awesome. eInk displays have come a long way and I hope for a very long and bright future for them.

@CNLohr

Жыл бұрын

Someday I hope to play with them in a way where I can control them with more fidelity.

Really awesome. I once gave my mother an electronic picture frame, but the required power supply forced it permanently inside a drawer.

Awesome work Brother thanks for shareing such awesome stuff❤️❤️

really cool! and that i can make this same thing myself for my mom is just amazing.

I read the title as "epaper picture that changes my mum", i.e. a nice family pic that cycles through potential other mothers you could've had? I think my mum would appreciate that.

@misaalanshori

3 жыл бұрын

That's how i read the first time too lol

Awesome! can't wait for e-paper displays to come down in price a little more

Wow your mom knew exactly what was going on, i would have been thinking i was going crazy for a while seeing how well you packaged everything

Amazing project! I might copy that, thank you!!

Awesome video, keep the video format

@CNLohr

3 жыл бұрын

Ok, just one more.

Nice one. I have been waiting patiently for full colour epaper to hit the market, for the explicit purpose of having a digital picture frame that isn't a bright lcd affaIr. looks like there are finally some reasonably sized 4096 color displays coming onto the market now. Would love to see a similar project done with those!

@CNLohr

Жыл бұрын

Would be cool!

Awesome project, I'll definitely make something like this in the future

I loved this video, DIY projects to give as gifts I'm going to make this and gift it Thanks!

You should have made a replica of the original photo, then switched it out to the changing one haha..

This just gave me an idea for a photo where the eyes follow you.

this video (and especially the new style of editing and recording) was awesome! I know it's quite a lot of work, but I think it's worth it...

@CNLohr

3 жыл бұрын

I've got one more video like it now, that I really put a ton of effort into. Hopefully it gets approved by all parties and will release this week.

@Manawyrm

3 жыл бұрын

@@CNLohr Very cool! I'm subscribed to the Patreon and will be watching out for it :)

Cool project with a paper led use case ;-) Thanks for sharing!

i want to make something like this for one of my siblings and have it slowly zoom in over the course of like 3 months

@CNLohr

Жыл бұрын

That would be really cool. It's unfortunate the color displays need to redraw the whole display to update.

@Daniel_WR_Hart

Жыл бұрын

Or make them slowly get fatter lol

Woah 7 colors, that's amazing

Damn this is a really fun and cool video. Keep it up!

@CNLohr

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Awesome project!

I am also a big waveshare fan. I'm really looking forward to a 2.7 inch 7-color display.

1:30 top-right: How to avoid getting the computer virus version of CoViD _Touches mask every 10s_ uh oh lol

Not really a prank, more like a unique gift that ended up being wholesome in the end! 😊

Man, you're incredibly smart. I envy someone with your mind. Awesome stuff! Lots of fun

@CNLohr

Жыл бұрын

Just learn and keep learning!

Finish what you started!!! Figure out how to get this produced and sold! I'm retired now and frustrated at all the times I made things and had no idea how cool customers would have thought they were if I'd only made them available! 😬😅

@CNLohr

2 жыл бұрын

There will only ever be one!

@JL-pc2eh

2 жыл бұрын

@@CNLohr I would buy it because I have no time for making it myself. Love the idea.

@weorldedit

Жыл бұрын

You can buy a changing picture frame. It just uses more power, so it has a wire attached to it.

@VulpeculaJoy

Жыл бұрын

@@weorldedit That's the problem these days. There is always a tradeoff between high fidelity and high power consumption. With people so used to plugging/charging any and every electronic device they own, they rather have a 4K smart picture frame that uses 10W and needs a power cable, than a dithered, low-res e-ink one that lasts over a year on a single 760mAh charge.

A very nice job. I would add a magnetic reed switch to flip to the next picture. Maybe a battery low corner indicator but like you said, the time to recharge is very long. Liked.

@CNLohr

3 жыл бұрын

All good ideas, but my mom's birthday came too soon.

I bought one of the black and red ones when they first surfaced but I have never found a good use for it yet, now they have more colours though is interesting, nice thing to do for your mother though well done....

Interesting display Great find! Thanks for sharing :-)

OMG, the prank/gaslighting possibilities for this are hilarious/terrifying. e.g. Replace family picture with photoshopped version with a specter in the background at Halloween. Switch to embarrassing child photo for your brother when his girlfriend's phone's bluetooth ID is detected.

@CNLohr

Жыл бұрын

I hadn't considered any of these when I made this!

Meanwhile I can't even get the mono and two-color Waveshare e-paper displays to work when I _copy and paste their code samples._ Am I just dumb? 😩 Please continue with your in-depth videos, they're not only interesting and educational, they're inspiring! 👍

@CNLohr

3 жыл бұрын

Use a logic analyzer to look at the waveforms and make sure they are correct.

Loved the power optimization subplot

Mom is not surprised at all.. anywho great work man.

Love this idea, any thoughts on how to tie this in with something like a Google photos album? Additional steps would be to connect to wifi, download the new image and then process it. I wonder what additional power consumption would be?

@CNLohr

2 жыл бұрын

Considering the ESP8266 does great deep sleep, you could probably make it last a loong time. That said, this uses a little less power.

this is pretty darn cool

This is absolutely wonderful

@CNLohr

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

This awesome project made me an instant subscriber

@CNLohr

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

LOL that's barely a prank at all, just a surprising gift! I thought for sure at first that this is a prime scenario for photo-shopping a ghost into the background of a normal picture, and it only appears on some nights of the week. Otherwise it could look like just a static photo. or maybe the facial expressions get changed sometimes. Something subtle like that would be a really funny but long term prank.

That's pretty sweet. A minor thing you could improve in your videos is to use a pop filter for the microphone. Some of the "P"s in (e.g. in "paper") put a bit of pressure on the ears.

@CNLohr

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, I still did not have one for my upcoming video... but, I will get one sooner or later.

I like your attempt at trying to do a kind of profiling of the displayed colors through photographing it at around 04:55 - Color calibration and color management is a deep rabbit hole and I appreciate you including this in the video. I think the flaw was that what you did would be only useful at providing the palette for a soft proofing profile on your LC or Oled display of your computer. To extract the display-able colors you would have to measure them under a known light source and also correct for the reflectance of the display (this is why your black levels where off and looked washed out). Nonetheless a very exciting project 😍👍

@CNLohr

Жыл бұрын

I think the biggest issue was that I cannot accurately display the colors because they are not as vivid. So, doing it the way I landed on provides the "most" vividness that can be done without supersaturation.

@shompy12

Жыл бұрын

Yes exactly. This is because the gamut volume of the display is far smaller because it is based on subtractive color science and not additive. Meaning it can only reflect light and not produce it like say an Oled panel. This is also why printing color spaces are narrower than display color spaces. So soft proofing is used on the display to simulate the narrower space of a printing medium. Additionally, you are basically working with a kind of 3bit display 😂 so only 1 bit for brightness info and 2bits for the shades and then using dithering to trick the eye into seeing colors that are not there. But actually using the palette you derived from the picture you took in the conversion algorithm would basically be a way to soft proof or simulate, what the final picture would look under the specific lighting conditions you took the photo under. So you could technically use it in extreme cases to then adjust the original picture (say you observed severe banding on the eInk display and wanted to adjust the picture before converting it again), then simulate the output on your pc monitor without the need to send it to your mum to put it on the display, maybe tweak it again and then use the 'optimal' palette on the picture for the final conversion. Anyways this is a great example of color spaces and working with limited color volume 👍

Discovering this 3 years late. That’s pretty cool.

Nice work, but your mum is just too smart!

i am buying this now!!!

this is the Best video for E paper i have seen. And i wish you would Take the next step for picture frames like this ..

Every now and then I come back to this video and think about making one on my own. It seems Waveshare actually started selling a 7.3 inch version in a wooden picture frame! They sure know their audience

like when you do something expecting to surprise or amaze anyone ... and finally for them is pretty normal :-(

I think for a lot of people the thought of losing their grip on reality is their greatest fear, so that being said giving your mom a picture frame that makes her think she's crazy is....hilarious. So long as you eventually reveal the secret to her!

@CNLohr

Жыл бұрын

Or she saw riiight through it.

Lol, I’m proud when I find a library that does what I need, and this guy WRITES them!

All of that set up and planning just for your Mum to see right through it. DANG.

Imagine streaming alone with a fucking mask on lmao

since he left a little bit of the audio from the b roll videos in the background i kept thinking there was someone talking in my house...... i live alone..... also wtf is the point of wearing a mask when your alone or when your just gonna take it off when you talk

I hope they make something like thos for retail. I love the look of the matte epaper! It’s so different.

This is amazing I want smart picture frames back!!

I applaud you for wearing a mask inside your home. Thank you for keeping yourself safe from yourself!

why TF are you wearing a mask in your home while you are by yourself? Big brain moment.

@jamesphillips2285

Жыл бұрын

Maybe he was expecting a visitor.

SUPER COOL. Gotta get one of these right away. Just got one of their tinier black and white screens but the color one is a little too cool.

very cool. I'm surprised it looks so good!

@CNLohr

Жыл бұрын

I KNOW! It totes blew my mind.

holy shit are you sitting in your living room wearing a mask?!?

@drkmccy

Жыл бұрын

Yes, before Covid you could not tell who had extreme and unreasonable levels of mysophobia just by looking at them. Now you can.

interesting

Wow, that was nice of you to wait until it was back in stock before posting

@CNLohr

Жыл бұрын

It's been so long now, and it's been in and out of stock many times since.

Such a cool idea!

**Come with hopes there is a smart person making smart stuff while being smart** **finds a mentally ill dude wearing a face blanket in his own house** **lesve laughing my ars off**

Sitting home by yourself wearing a mask to work on a computer.

Wholesome convo with the mom!

@CNLohr

Жыл бұрын

Cool project. Very creative.