Great review(s) you have on this bike. My wife saw this bike on a dealership website when I was shopping, she told me that she wanted me to test ride this one before I did anything else. So I did this, and bought it, wow is it so easy to ride. People talk about vibrations and I haven't a clue what they're talking about. But, that could be I'm used to dirt bikes?

Great review, thanks. The hill hold is activated by the front brake, and front and rear brakes are linked. Activating front brake also activates rear brake to a greater or lesser degree depending on speed etc.

@VToldsMotoShow

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the hint. I wonder why it didn't activate itself at that particular spot that I showed in the video. And yes, another good hint is about the linked brakes. I believe that Harley Pan America also incorporates this solution and in both it's unnoticeable when riding. Good stuff, Paul!

Excellent review V-Told... I'm in the market for an ADV motorcycle and your reviews really do help and answer a lot of my questions. Thanks for posting & stay safe!

@VToldsMotoShow

2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad I can help and thanks for your feedback. It's a very interesting and potentially rewarding category of motorcycles. But also with pretty extreme differences between all the competitors, so it may not be easy at all! But it's definitely fun researching and coming closer to a final conclusion. All the best!

Loved my test on the explorer and totally agree on the engine. Will definitely get the GT or GT Pro in the future second hand when the price and timing is right...dream bike!

@VToldsMotoShow

9 ай бұрын

I believe that one cannot go wrong with the 1200 GT.

Great review, thank you! interesting bike, they have just beeen launched here in South Africa, will soon go test one for sure.... like you say, the GS has now some serious competition... but soon the GS will also be seriously updated... it never stops, and that is fun! Thank you, and cheers!

@VToldsMotoShow

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I'm glad that you like the video and yes, we're expecting the new GS sooner than later and it makes the whole case even more exciting! Cheers!

One of the most comfortable bikes I’ve ever ridden. Steering light and easy. Power smooth and there’s plenty of it - but, I tested one today and was very disappointed. At 5000 rpm, the vibration was enough to deaden my fingers after 20 mins. Unfortunately, 5k is about 120-130kph, which is motorway speed. I will buy the 900 which didn’t exhibit this problem

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

I don't think that there's a fix for such vibration issues which is not the best news. I'm curious about the 900 too. Soon going to find out though.

@chrisoz4929

Жыл бұрын

@@VToldsMotoShow I rode the 900 as well and instantly fell in love with it. It also has a little vibe, but that’s normal on any bike and it’s easy to deal with. Tried a Versys 1000 today, not sure what to think of it. It’s a bit ‘ vanilla‘ and the quick shifter is poor. Still have to try the GS - even though it’s ugly and expensive.

Outstanding analysis.Thanks.

@VToldsMotoShow

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot, I appreciate your feedback. All the best!

Great review!

@VToldsMotoShow

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I'm happy that you like it. Cheers!

Great review.. extremely engaging. I enjoyed that. New subscriber now. Thank you!

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot and I'm glad that you enjoyed the vid!

I bought the rally pro. Love it 😎. Time to say goodbye to my GS.

@VToldsMotoShow

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing - so there's somebody already choosing the big Tiger over a GS!

Triumph is know for is torque machine i myself own a Triumph Rocket 3 GT and man 221 newton meter of torque is crazy but it always put a smile in my face everytime i ride my Rocket, ride safe mate.

I just got mine. I love it a lot. I wish it had a little compartment for gloves or glasses. But it's definitely aimed at performance first. I haven't even tried sport mode yet in the first week.

@VToldsMotoShow

2 жыл бұрын

Lucky you! All the best with your new Tiger and lots of happy miles!

thats a really good looking bike in that blue.. only negative on looks is the headlight, could be tempted into my first adventure style bike and feel patriotic at the same time,

your the first person that said it matches the GS. much love

@VToldsMotoShow

2 жыл бұрын

Overall it can match the GS but in certain areas it's usually easy to point out which one feels better. In some areas it's the GS and in some it's the big Tiger. Cheers!

@milesdavis8665

2 жыл бұрын

@@VToldsMotoShow indeed. Keep those videos coming. I will ride both bikes before choosing.

Great review as usual. I appreciate your way of objectively looking at both sides (good & bad) but also taking into account the subjective feel, etc. I would love to know your views comparing this to the H-D Pan America.

@VToldsMotoShow

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for feedback and I'm glad that you like the view. I'm planning to make a deep head-to-head comparison of all bikes within the class. Just trying to get the last contender in the form of a KTM 1290 Super Adventure which may not work as dealers don't have those here at all at the moment.

@NaveenKumar-zr1uy

2 жыл бұрын

@@VToldsMotoShow that's gonna be a fantastic review I am waiting for, I just can't wait what's taking the BMW GS to get their new version...I expect they would do something to the exhaust sound at least this time.

@chrishart8548

2 жыл бұрын

@@NaveenKumar-zr1uy the triumph always comes out with the new model before the GS I don't see what bmw can do with the sound would a 270° crankshaft work with a boxer I doubt it.

@chrishart8548

2 жыл бұрын

@@NaveenKumar-zr1uy r1200gs was 2004-2012 (8 years) r1200gs LC 2013-2019 (6 years) r1250gs 2020- 2022 something new should be coming.

This bike is the most handsome one I have ever seen!

Very good review. I have the GT Explorer, and believe me riding around the north of Scotland I was very pleased to have a 30 litre tank. In town with 2 up I use the off-road setting as the height reduces and I can then get both feet flat on the ground which makes it easier to control when filtering. You have to stop to put it back into ride/sport though.

@VToldsMotoShow

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting tip about the suspension setting influencing the bike's seat height. Thanks for sharing that and I'm glad that you like the video. It's nice to hear that you're enjoying the Explorer with a larger fuel tank too. Thanks for the tip about when one may switch back from the off-road setting.

@pascallenoir5917

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Vicomte ! Some reviews like this one mention vibrations in the handlebar and in the pegs, but I also read that after 1st maintenance and 500 miles this would not occur any longer. What is your experience ? I am thinking of buying the GT Explorer or a GS/GSA. Did you compare ? Why yr choice over the beamer ? Thanks !

@vicomtedelomagne

2 жыл бұрын

@@pascallenoir5917 Hi Pascal. I didn’t really notice any significant vibration- certainly nothing more than my previous bike (1250GS TE). The BMW was noisier from the engine. The Triumph is more nimble, and despite a review timing the two bikes saying the BMW is faster, IMO the Triumph is significantly faster. My BMW was stolen from my drive in daylight with 12 feet tall electric gates which were broken. The bike was lifted out by an Asian gang - my daughter was assaulted by them. My neighbour has had 4 GS’s stolen in the last ten years. The Triumph is very comfortable and the finish is excellent. I am now at 2100 miles in 4 weeks. It is as nimble and useable as my KTM 990 adventure, but with a lot more power and very useful electronic features. I love it!

@pascallenoir5917

2 жыл бұрын

Hi again Vicomte ! You anticipated one of my worries: sound/ noise. I tried a GS twice, I must admit the noise bothered me. I like bikes that don’t make too much noise and that can be bearable for long haul trip. My current Versys 1000 SE is really great for that, 2 up and loaded, I can cruise at 30 mph in town, thus not bothering neighborhood and staying in 6th gear. Is the noise ok for cruising ? Need to wear earplugs ? Thanks.

@vicomtedelomagne

2 жыл бұрын

@@pascallenoir5917 Hi Pascal, I wear earplugs for journeys more than 10-20 miles simply to reduce the risk of ear damage. I don’t wear them for ‘comfort’ and do not find the noise from the Triumph in any way disturbing.

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@VToldsMotoShow

2 жыл бұрын

With good engine cooling though ;)

To operate the flash, leave on DRL. A pull will flash. To keep on, switch to dipped beam. I have found DRLs are brighter than the dipped beam for daytime use. Thanks for the review, great overview!

@VToldsMotoShow

2 жыл бұрын

Oh dear, that would be interesting. I wonder what Triumph would have to say about their new "invention" in the field of how to use the lights. Thanks for checking and letting us all know here. Cheers!

@chrishart8548

Жыл бұрын

DRL should always be brighter than dipped beam. DRL at night on its own is absolutely blinding.

You’re an excellent reviewer. Thank you. The most important point for me is your comment on the windshield: triumph has totally screwed its design, obviously. As for the torque, how would you compare it to the BMW 1250 GS? A lot or not that much difference at lo revs? Thanks again!

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and as for torque or rather flexibility, you may feel that the GS does better but it may also be the gearing. Overall I'd say that even though the GS has the most Nm out of all bikes in the segment, the difference between it, Tiger 1200 and KTM 1290 SA is not something that should be taken into account as none of them struggles and at the same time the 3 of them are absolutely brilliant when it comes to taking off from higher gears and also riding at lower RPM. The windshield can thankfully be easily replaced, however, I'm not 100% that it was the only source of the issue with stuff getting into my helmet I recently rode the Rally version in an Explorer trim and the exact same thing was happening. The most likely reason is the windshield indeed but it would require some further tests with other windshields. Cheers!

@quiver99

Жыл бұрын

@@VToldsMotoShow thank you V-T for your time and your exhaustive answer. I really like both the Tigers 900/1200 Rally Pro. Stunning! But BMW wasn't happy to let me go to its competitors. I am now enjoying my 2nd BMW F850GS Triple Black that BMW offered me as a replacement of a 40yr Edition defective at the origin :)

Another great review. At 17:44, you look a bit silly wearing your iphone on your wrist.

@oldtimer3824

2 жыл бұрын

Scooter Food delivery driver, is not stylish occupation. Lol.

@VToldsMotoShow

2 жыл бұрын

I believe that they see a map there since there's no other convenient spot on a moped to attach a phone too. Especially if they're stopping and getting off of that thing every now and then.

Hola, estupendo video!. En mi caso, no soy un piloto experto y solo conduzco en carretera de asfalto. No hago grandes viajes, solo alguna salida pequeña. Para el día a día tengo una moto pequeña de tipo cafe-racer. Acabo de perder una Multistrada V4S en un accidente, y me planteo comprar, o bien otra V4S de segunda mano, o bien una Triumph 1200 GT PRO. El precio bien equipadas se acerca mucho entra la Tiger nueva con una V4S de segunda mano, ya que la Ducati es bastante más cara. Mido 170 cm y utilizo en cualquiera de estas motos la opción de asiento más bajo. Valoro mucho la maniobrabilidad, facilidad de manejo y agilidad en la moto, también su seguridad. Tengo la impresión de que la Tiger es más manejable que la V4S, y que a pesar de pesar prácticamente lo mismo, la Tiger parece más ágil. La potencia no me preocupa porque ambas tienen de sobra. La protección aerodinámica sé que es mejor en la Ducati que en la Triumph. El sonido, creo que es mejor en la Tiger, ya que en mi anterior V4S la verdad que el sonido no me gustaba nada, suena a lata, supongo que por el euro5. Creo que la transmisión por cardan en la Tiger suena mejor y es más práctica y más suave que la transmisión por cadena de la Ducati. Desde tu opinión o consejo, y sabiendo mi altura, grado de experiencia y uso de la moto, ¿me recomendarías una Multistrada V4S completa de equipamiento de SEGUNDA MANO (unos 26000-27000 €), o una Triumph Tiger 1200 GT PRO NUEVA equipada con topcase, maletas y protecciones (25000 €)?. Gracias

Great review! Did you try the Rally version?

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and yes, now I can say that I did try it and I saw your comment a moment ago there. So I'm aware that you know too. GT would be my go-to here.

Great video. For spirited canyon riding (never any off road) which one: this Triumph 1200 or the BMW S1000XR?

@Fatcatztravel1250

Жыл бұрын

XR

@EEEBA1

Жыл бұрын

@@Fatcatztravel1250 Thank you!

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

Tough one, tough one. I think I wouldn't be able to give you my answer but I'd likely be leaning towards the Triumph on the other hand. Only that "canyon" is making me hesitate as at the moment I understand that it may mean overall high speeds. Is that right? That would matter as at lower speeds, I'd like the Triumph more but if you're basically not slowing down, then S1000XR can be in its "INSANITY" mode at higher RPM and smoke the Triumph there. It's a lot of fun then and indeed could be a lot of fun and maybe more than on a Triumph.

From the side from a distance it looks really slim the profile. It's actually massive up close.

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

I think that's a valid point. It doesn't look heavy while in fact it's a big bike when you approach it. Still, I believe it's not overwhelming like some others can be (Africa Twin 1100 or BMW R1250GS Adventure). However, I haven't really spent time with the Explorer version of the Triumph. I've seen it right next to this one that I got and it didn't seem as larger at the first glance. I'm sure that the fuel tank goes somewhere but it's definitely not as obvious as in for example R1250GS vs R1250GS Adventure comparison.

Thank you for such a detailed review. Previous model had a excessive heat problem, especially in tip of the seat (crutch area). Any difference in new model?

@davehemmerly8496

Жыл бұрын

I have the 2023 Tiger GT Explorer and there are no heat issues at all. I rode a Multistrada when I rode the Triumph and that bike is hot in comparison. The only issue I have with the bike is the vibration created by the engine transmitting through the bars, it's terrible.

@nenadpaunovic4651

Жыл бұрын

@@davehemmerly8496 Thank you sir.

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

I can confirm that heat management is good here. I did pay attention to that as temperatures were pretty high those days and I spent some time in city traffic while pushing the bike hard at times.

@nenadpaunovic4651

Жыл бұрын

@@VToldsMotoShow Thank you for your effort.

My Tiger 900 it's the same in that finding neutral can take a few tries. Great bike though

Good review, congratulations! I like the bike but I heard it has the problem of sudden stalling both in Tiger 900 and 1200. Do you know if this problem is already solved? I had a Tiger 800 -10 years ago- and had that embarrassing problem . I am 196 cms tall and prefer 1200 gt pro, but I'm not sure if the position of the knees would be significantly better with the model rally pro in 895 position. What do you think? thanks

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. I've heard from some riders that in the end of 2022 there was allegedly a software update that was supposed to fix it. Is that really a thing, I could not verify. One way of doing that would be asking any dealer directly. About the seat height, consider that seat height in Rally/GT comes due to taller suspension, and not a different location of the foot pegs. I actually doubt that the seats are any different on the two and would bet that they're not. This would mean that the knee angle on Rally/GT would be identical, just with the whole bike 'hanging' higher from the ground. Would be good to double-check with a dealer though.

@juanheredia2841

Жыл бұрын

@@VToldsMotoShow Thank you very much. I appreciate your opinion Perhaps somebody who owns a Tiger could confirm that the stalling problem ist already fixed?

3:40 you want to be able to start the bike in gear if you stall it for some reason...esp at the lights.

I like the tiger, test rode one twice. However I’ll be sticking with the GSA.

@benkelly2190

Жыл бұрын

…or rather I brought the KTK SAS! Best move ever.

Gdyby nie nagrania z Warszawy, to w życiu bym nie powiedział, że o motocyklu opowiada rodak :D. Pozdrawiam !

@VToldsMotoShow

2 жыл бұрын

A rzeczywiście - pewnie to nie standard, aby gadać nie po swojemu, ale mi to bardzo odpowiada i w sumie generuje zwykle jeszcze ciekawsze dyskusje z różnych zakątków świata. Jest moc! :)

FYI, the brakes are linked, the bike will apply some back brake wihtout needing to use the brake peddle, just like on the old model. Great review, thanks. Don't you also engage hild hold by just firmly sqeezing the front brake, like on the old model? That should be how it works. *Just saw the other comment and that you replied, all good :)

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for pointing that out - all true. About the hill hold, I've ridden a Tiger 1200 Rally recently and also couldn't get the system to work. No clue how they've configured it that it's so challenging to convince it to activate itself ;). Cheers!

@nuttySweeet

Жыл бұрын

@@VToldsMotoShow on the previous gen you could turn it off and on in the settings, they must have turned it off, it might also get deactivated in off road mode. It works great though, when it's working :)

The red button is to turn on the high beam. The grey sq button is to turn on the AUX lights. You cant have the AUX lights and high beams on at the same time. There is no flasher that i know of. The DRL modes change country to country as the laws change.

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

Ah yes, that's indeed a pretty complex way of using the lighting here.

Sorry if I didn't catch this - can you tell us how tall are you? In your review it didn't seem like you could fully flat foot the bike, but it wasn't terribly tall too. I'm 177 cm and wondering how much of a struggle it will be.

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

I’m 183 cm tall or 6’0”. It was totally comfortable for me here in terms of height.

I don't understand why people make such a big problem from the fact that you have to pull the clutch in to start the bike. When I was learning how to operate vehicle, one of the first thing I was thought, was to pull the clutch in before you start the engine. Reason for that being it makes the start easier and it saves you in case you vehicle is in gear. I actually like the fact that Triumph does that. All vehicles should do that. Primary reason why one should leave car or motorcycle on gear is so it can't roll.... obviously, especially on hills.

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say that pulling the clutch is a problem - I lived for 10 years with a bike that required that and I wouldn't complain about it at all. Actually, it was giving me certain confidence that everything is right and there are no surprises waiting for me. The real issue here with the new Tiger 1200 is that the display loads so long that after starting the bike and holding that clutch, you cannot be certain if it's in neutral or not. If you've got it on a center stand, I'm not sure if it cuts the engine with a gear engaged. When on a side stand - yes, then it should but is it 100% so quick not to make the bike jump forward if you immediately let the clutch go? I don't think so and of course I couldn't test it. I hope that this explanation makes more sense. I actually had it in a video but removed it as I thought it's too small of a point to take this much time in a longer video. But hell, I think it's a good topic in fact!

Is the new tiger worth buying over 1250?

@VToldsMotoShow

2 жыл бұрын

I think that it might be. If you care about an engine more than agility in terms of handling, then yes. In other words if fun thanks to performance would be more important to you than fun coming from steering and handling, then I'd say yes - Triumph Tiger 1200 may be considered superior to BMW R1250GS to those riders.

Which one y prefer more just to have a fun on the street? Tiger ot tracer 9? Which one would y rather jomp on having 2 hours extra time during lovely day? Cheers

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

It's a tough question. Outside the city - definitely the Triumph but inside the city, it may be too hard for me to answer. Yamaha is super nimble and easy to handle while Triumph has that extra punch from the engine and much higher comfort levels. I think it would be down to what day it is and if one would want to get crazy with performance (Tiger) or smoothly play in traffic between cars (Tracer 9).

Nunca vi video nenhum dela com um escape esportivo full ou difusor de escape tenta trazer por favor

I just got my Rally Explorer. I love it! After a test ride the GS was out of the question 😊

@VToldsMotoShow

2 жыл бұрын

So you've gone for the big daddy within the Tiger family. I hope you'll enjoy 100% of it!

Loosening the handlebar clamps and rolling the bar up and forward will sharpen up the initial steering input. Unfortunately this is a symptom of the assembly process at the dealership. The bikes handling is dictated by the technician that set it up. It looks like it’s been set for comfort. With the bars slightly higher they will be slightly less comfortable until you get used to it but the bike will handle better.

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

That's an interesting thought. I wonder if there are any sort of guidelines or measurements when it comes to the assembly process. I think that I may visit Triumph dealership once more soon, so perhaps will get the chance to ask.

@eMotion_Video_UK

Жыл бұрын

@@VToldsMotoShow I had to readjust my bars after dropping the bike. I then aligned the marker on the bars as it should have been, now the bars are set higher and it is more responsive. Also Chris Birch talks about this in bike setup on Adventure Rider Radio Podcast. That is well worth a listen.

How does it vibes when compared to s1kxr?

@Art-kz6zf

2 жыл бұрын

Much more.

@VToldsMotoShow

2 жыл бұрын

Actually I agree with @Art that at higher RPM, Tiger 1200 vibrates more than BMW S1000XR - but note that I'm referring to the 2nd generation of S1000XR. Having ridden the 2nd generation not long ago, it's easier for me to compare this generation rather than the 1st one which allegedly could vibrate much more before BMW addressed the issue. I haven't found it extreme in the 1st gen anyway. So I'd say that still Tiger 1200 vibrates more overall at higher RPM.

@Art-kz6zf

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. I was riding the latest S1000 XR last Saturday and it didn't really vibrate much to be honest. The older ones had that problem. The biggest issue to me was the insanely lazy throttle response on that bike. I just found out that i could have switched to some "dynamic pro" mode to fix it, but it was driving me crazy the whole day 😂

Off road performance looks hampered by those headers sitting at the front of the bike with zero protection, no?

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

No worries, you can get a protection out there. The Rally version that's supposed to be better equipped has got it along with lower crash bars.

How tall are you?

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

i'm 183 cm tall / 6 feet tall.

Yes good review , but is it better than a v strom ? 🤔

@VToldsMotoShow

2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you like it. Is it better than a V-Strom? My answer would be: in every single area except for the engine sound. V-Strom's V2 1050 sounds superior to me and I'd choose it 10/10 times over Triumph's 3-cylinder inline engine's sound. I believe that it would be the only thing and still - it's totally subjective and up to one's personal taste.

The only thing i want to know is , is it better than 1250 gs .

@VToldsMotoShow

2 жыл бұрын

I'd say that in terms of performance, engine smoothness and likely also how differently its suspension can feel between the modes - it may be considered better. I do feel it's better in those areas than the current R1250GS. Add exhaust sound to that too.

@Neelkamaljada

2 жыл бұрын

@@VToldsMotoShow it's so surprising that even in suspension you are comparing it with gs .

@davehemmerly8496

Жыл бұрын

How can the engine be smooth and transmit as much vibration to the bars as it does? My 2023 GT Explorer is a tuning fork compared to a V4S Multi

Good you didn’t go to Portugal; the review wouldn’t have been half as good.

@joaotino2252

2 жыл бұрын

May I ask why?

@rickcrane839

2 жыл бұрын

@@joaotino2252 Nothing against Portugal, but that was where the company sponsored motorcycle introduction was held. Many people think there is a tendency toward bias whenever a moto-journalist accepts financial remuneration (flights, hotels, meals) from a manufacturer.

@VToldsMotoShow

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's correct I believe. No matter how 'true' you want to be, you cannot get rid of that feeling that somebody noticed you, invited, paid for your trip and therefore expects something in return. "Been there, done that." I hope it becomes trendy at some point to present real opinions not influenced by manufacturers and their sponsorships. Not a bad thing when it comes to reaching consumers but a bad thing when recommending products and services.

Damn. I was looking for the dishonest review.