Great vid as all ways Phill .i have to agree it wants you to Hoon it around the country lanes and mine puts a massive smile on my face every time i start it up and ride

@Phil480

7 жыл бұрын

Good to hear :)

you have something of a 1970s football commentator in your delivery ! it works !! great review.

@Phil480

7 жыл бұрын

+twatweezle Haha, unbelievable Jeff. Amazing scenes!

Sweet review Phil, just got mine on Wednesday, bloody love it. Crunched some miles on it yesterday, the thing is absolutely amazing. Saying that though I still reckon the 865 still has way more charm and character about it, this new street scrambler feels slightly watered-down because of the more refined nature of it, if you know what I mean.

@Phil480

7 жыл бұрын

Yeh, I get what you mean, the old one just has a more authentic feel to it. The new one feels like a modern take on it, where as the old one still kind of feels old, if that makes sense.

Can't get my head round those high exhausts, even if they do sound the nuts. Going to Triumph in Romford 2moro to see about testing a Bobber.

Good review, that is my next Triumph.

@Phil480

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Martin :) It is a fine choice

@tooresttrikie6744

6 жыл бұрын

Martin does your daddy not still make bikes? 😃

Hi Phil,,, I normally ride a BM RT,but yesterday I tested the scram.. Yeah it just wants tobe thrashed ,its happy to pull up to around 90, but after my RT I risked being blown off the back.. I loved the engine note and that was with the stock exhaust...Speaking about the exhaust I found the worse thing about the bike was the exhaust in relation to the riding position, it just sticks out too far,, it forces my foot right out to the edge of the footpeg. I really became aware of it when trying to stand on the pegs ,, I think it would have been better too have the downpipes going below the engine, to give more room for your leg,, suppose it ruins the orthotics of the bike thou!!! Another gripe is the master brake cylinder reservoir,, its just too vulnerable to catching a bush or a passing rambler..First thing I would fit is a set of Barkbusters (handgurads),you are going tobe picking this bike out the weeds more then once so best be prepared ..all in all I may well pull the trigger... thanks for the review,,,(have subbed) regards

@Phil480

7 жыл бұрын

Yes, hand guards would be a high priority item if you were taking one off road a lot. The high exhaust isn't as far out on the new one compared to the old one. On mine it's not very comfortable standing up because it does push your leg out. The new one isn't quite as bad. As for the weight, it is an improvement but still quite weighty, most likely too heavy for any serious off roading, but for dirt tracks it's fine really. I took my Scrambler down a dirt track yesterday and loved it. Keep an eye out, there will be a video on that soon :) Thanks for watching!

Fair commentary. I had the first Scrambler (2006) and I agree I would not get the new one if I had already had the old one,, but I would not hesitate to get the new one when I was ready for a new bike. Better performance across the board on the new one, with some better bits but with some material trade offs I could live with or change out. Oh yeah not sure I would invest in a tail tidy on any bike when you are still stuck with those huge license plates, that just makes it look a little weirder to me.

@Phil480

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jerry. I think I prefer the looks of my one, but the way the new one handles I could live with the more modern look of the new one.

just bought one great review

Good review, so weird to see you riding the roads where i live/ride/cycle, Rides on South Downs can match anywhere in the world, just wish there were a few less cars around! I think I'll have to road test the Scrambler, Bobber and Street Cup to make my decision. Oh and maybe the T120 and Thruxton......

@Phil480

7 жыл бұрын

There are some great roads around here. Plenty of cyclists around, I had several occasions on that day where car drivers would impatiently overtake a group of cyclists whilst I was oncoming. I would recommend test riding all of the bikes you mentioned there, especially the T120 and Thruxton!

Nice review Phil, definitely a fun bike to consider, I think the Captain has a soft spot for this one as well.

@Phil480

7 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure he does, I think he'd have one if it wasn't for the Thruxton R.

Desperately want this to be my next bike.

@Phil480

6 жыл бұрын

You won't be disappointed :)

I like it a lot.

I love your bike and think you should give those stock Street Scrambler tires a run on your air cooled beauty before you make the switch. Another great ride, thanks man.

@Phil480

7 жыл бұрын

Funny you say that, my stock rear tyre is about had it already and I was looking on the forums to see what other owners use. It seems the Metzelers that the new one has is the way to go.

@jde9095

7 жыл бұрын

from what I have read they are a must

@Phil480

7 жыл бұрын

Should be a big improvement on handling by the sounds of it, and hopefully will last a lot longer. Only got just over 4k miles on the Bridgestone Trial Wing (or Death Wings, as some forum members call them lol)

Nice vid and nice bike Phil, I like the seat idea on this scrambler was that option available on your bike? yeah I'd take that over the street cup, RSM8.

@Phil480

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Skeggy! Yes, there was a single seat option with luggage rack for my one, but that was a complete new seat, this new one keeps the original seat, it's just the back end that gets changed so I imagine it works out a bit cheaper.

I love it. Honda did their best to copy what Triumph did way back in the 60s and 70s. I still like the Honda's, but they are not who started the idea. I have always loved the old school looking motorcycles. Im having a hard time getting used to these sport bikes they make today. I think im going to end up trading my 2015 sport bike for a new retro looking bike like the Scrambler's. I just have to get a bike that fits who i am.

@Phil480

7 жыл бұрын

Best thing to do is to test ride as much as you can, and you'll find something that speaks to you. I was fairly convinced that the Street Triple was the one for me, but that was only the 2nd bike I tried and I wan't so into the retro looking bikes back then. Since then I had tried all sorts and it turned out that the Scrambler was the one for me.

Phil, having road the new street scrambler and the street cup, which would you say is a more commuter with the occasional tour motorcycle? By the way I love the videos. Especially ones with Cpt. Rambunctious and Bigglesworth! You guys are hilarious!

@Phil480

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Joseph! Street Scrambler is more comfortable, so I'd say that is better at both commuting and touring. The Cup is more for having a blast.

but can it jump a fence in Switzerland

@Phil480

7 жыл бұрын

+Bret Snow That is a good and valid question. There is only one way to find out...

@sivaramkrishnan4728

6 жыл бұрын

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@codyshowalter5714

4 жыл бұрын

The new fence is gonna be at the Mexican and U.S border 😂

Hello, since you rode both the 865 and 900 which would you get in my situation? My local dealer has the 865 for 6,300 pounds and the 900 for 8,600 pounds.

@Phil480

7 жыл бұрын

Hi Scott, thats a tough one because they are both very good. The new one is better performance and handling wise, no question about that. But the 865 looks better and more true to the Bonneville style (in my opinion). They can both handle a bit of light off-roading, the new one is probably better for that. On the road, they are both fun bikes. I have recently changed the tyres on mine to the same as whats on the new one, and it makes a good difference to the handling on road. So, the new one is worth the extra, but if your dealer has the 865 for £6,300, that sounds like a good price, even better if it's got the Arrow exhaust on it (if not you could probably get a deal on that). Whichever you choose, you're going to have fun on it. It would be worth keeping in mind that the 865 only has a 6k mile service interval. The new one is 10k. Triumph just quoted me £249 for the first 6k mile service (which is mostly an oil and filter change and safety inspection), so it's a bit pricey when it comes to that.

Scrambler or T100?

Definitely the Matte Green is right....I'm of course biased with my Steve McQueen edition Bonneville in the same colour! Pity about the carbon fibre effect exhaust tip...looks out of place on anything vintage-styled.

Hey there, loved the review! I have a question, would this bike be too tall for a beginner rider of shorter stature? I've had the opportunity to look at other Triumphs, and the original Street Twin seemed like a very comfortable fit for me, but when I sat on the previous model Scrambler it felt way too tall for me. I have wanted a Triumph for as long as I have wanted a motorcycle, and I absolutely love the scrambler aesthetic. I'm 5'7" for reference. Thanks! Hope to see more from you soon!

@Phil480

7 жыл бұрын

At 5'7" you should be fine on the new scrambler, but it all depends on your inseam and things like that. Best thing to do would be to pop into your local dealership and sit on one to be certain. I think you should be fine. Plus the weight of the new one is a bit lighter but it feels a lot lighter than the old one. The old one is a bit top heavy.

Hello Phil, nice review. Do you recommend this bike as a first bike for a beginner? I have no experience with riding a bike, however, I would like to buy this one. Thank you for your advice.

@Phil480

6 жыл бұрын

The Street range are easy bikes to ride, and have good enough safety features, they should be okay as a first bike if the rider is sensible. That being said, for someone with no bike experience whatsoever, I would recommend something with a smaller cc to start with, just to get a feel for things

Great review Phil! I think it would look better with twin gages like those in the Street Cup or the previous Scrambler. Colors? I like the red and the matte green. Which I prefer by the looks? The previous Scrambler. I own the red and silver colors and I love it! Cheers!

@Phil480

7 жыл бұрын

I agree, the twin clocks would be better. I think the old Scrambler in matt green would be awesome. I do like the red and silver, that was the colour I wanted at first, but the blue grew on me.

@Trex531

7 жыл бұрын

Phil480: Exactly, just like the one shown in Jurassic World with the Arrow exhaust. I would have added the head lamp grille too! What a beautiful piece of top Triumph engineering!

Another good review Phil. Bet you have one before the 21/2 years you mention. :-) Ride safe and keep up the good work. How was the seat.??? Tim

@Phil480

7 жыл бұрын

We will see about that. I do need new tyres on mine and I'm thinking of going for the same Metzelers that the new one has, so will see if the handling improves. The seat was nice and comfortable, no complaints there.

@timholt8141

7 жыл бұрын

Just taken one for a test ride.!! What a delightful little bike to ride. I assumed it would be under powered but nope, plenty of go in the right places. Love the exhaust note and the brakes are brilliant. Can see me going back for a second go.!!

@Phil480

7 жыл бұрын

Good to hear :)

How would you compae the air/oil to the liquid cooled?

@Phil480

7 жыл бұрын

I prefer the looks of the air cooled, but the performance of the new liquid cooled engine is far better. Plus it only has a 10k mile service interval as opposed to the usual 6k on the air cooled engine. The only downside I can think of on the liquid cooled engine is the radiator spoiling the looks a bit.

A bigger bag of fun... 😂😂

I think the the previous scramblers look better and i won't be trading mine just yet. They just look so much prettier with the right mods, especially tail tidy, head lamp, mud guard, seat etc. Check BAAK motorcycles, a French company, expensive, but beautiful mods. Thanks for the vid.

@Phil480

7 жыл бұрын

Yep, much prefer the looks of mine. Just had a look on there, some very nice stuff!

5ft 3in must be a pain, man... I'm 5ft 8in and I have trouble with most bike's seat height these days. It's not all about their height, though, it's also how wide they are: I flat foot on the of the MT-09 (32.1in seat) and I'm on my tiptoes on the Guzzi V7 III (30.3in seat).

@Phil480

7 жыл бұрын

It is a pain, and very restricting on what bikes I can comfortably ride. I'd agree there, the seat width can be worse. I can fit on some tall supermoto's because they have a narrow seat, but some shorter bikes with a wider seat are harder to reach the floor on.

@joaosoares3719

7 жыл бұрын

BMW uses the inner leg curve/length, which is a more useful indicator because it takes into account both the seat height and its narrowest portion. Thick soles on your boots are always a nice help!

BUT is not better in apperence, i think the old one got the style and that classis feel... this hmm yeah true better in handling,engine and electro stuff but because of you , i bought myself the old one just few months ago.. the new one i think is too modern and i hate that plactic bits around the bike like the turn signal and cover for high pipes. i still choose the old one i think.. great video btw :) hello from jakarta

@mattslife7874

7 жыл бұрын

I have the old one. and much prefer it. The new one doesn't do it for me. The old has class and style

@osaprakoso

7 жыл бұрын

that is MY POINT, i'm very dissapointed when triumph bring this plactic saving eco way ish way, i wish it has the t120 class... but it's not.

@Phil480

7 жыл бұрын

Hello to Jakarta, thanks for watching! Yes, the old one looks better, and is more authentic to the Bonneville style. It's a shame they had to discontinue it, it was something to do with the Euro 4 regulations I think.

When you say light offroading do you mean just a dry dirt road?

@Phil480

7 жыл бұрын

I mean mostly flat terrain, either wet or dry dirt, gravel etc. Nothing too hardcore.

Anyone know if its ok for someone that is 6"3, can you spend longer than 2 hours on it, i have a daytona 675 and thinking about trading in.

@Phil480

5 жыл бұрын

Hard for me to say of course, but I'd say the Scrambler would be more comfortable as it's not a tucked up sort of riding position like the Daytona. I'd say wait and see what the 1200 Scrambler will be like, it looks a lot bigger and taller.

@leemacdonald6533

5 жыл бұрын

@@Phil480 thanks, October for the 1200, really like the look of the street scrambler, hopefully they build a daytona 765 for next year also👍

They could have color matched the fenders......it would have made it look 100% better.

Hi Phil you might try the New Honda Rebel 500 , it has a very low seat . I'm thinking of buying the Honda instead of the T120 mainly due to the low weight of that bike . I'm 171 cm and i weigh 55 kg and i'm a bit scared that i can't hold the T120 when i need to. But i'm gonna book a test ride anyway

@Phil480

7 жыл бұрын

I'll have to check that one out, it looks interesting. It must be lighter than the T120, which is a bit weighty but it's fairly low down so is quite manageable.

@dimmube

7 жыл бұрын

the Honda weighs 190 kg dry ,the T 120 224 kg dry and i'm not that strong either and i only have my licence for 3 years now and 48 years old/young

@Phil480

7 жыл бұрын

Tried the Rebel yesterday, so will have a video from that soon :) It was good fun, just a little underpowered for my liking. I could easily flat foot it, I don't think you would have a problem with the weight of it.

@dimmube

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks man looking forward to see the review , i have an Enfield and everything is more powerfull then that ;)

Phil , what do you think? Spend ~8.000-8500 euros for the old one (used in a good condition) or spend the 12.000 for a new one? Does it really worth the extra 5.000?

@Phil480

7 жыл бұрын

It's worth it if you prefer performance over looks, and the new one benefits from a 10k mile service interval as opposed to the usual 6k on the old one. I have just changed the tyres on my Scrambler for the same ones that the Street Scrambler has, and it makes a good improvement on the road. Also I'm told upgrading the shocks makes a big difference. So you could go for the old one and spend the extra money on upgrades :) I will try and get around to doing a like for like comparison video.

@konstantinosmaounis798

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks man, great feedback. I tested the new one and I loved it. That sound, that engine pull , the looks, the sound :P . ......

As an addon to my last comment at over 500IBS it does seem tobe a porky old beast,, just thinking my old Trumpet 500 weighed in about 350 to 400,, saying that all that weight keeps it well planted,,ok I ll shutup know!!!

Did you prefer this over the Street Triple?

@Phil480

5 жыл бұрын

Oooh, tough one. Street Triple is far better in every way, but this looks better and can go off-road haha. If I could keep my existing Scrambler, I'd have the Street Triple.

@colindeans5972

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

You are refering it as new/old bike. I believe that the Triumph Scrambler and Triumph Street Scrambler are different bikes. Not the old one and the new one. You can purchase Scrambler 2017 and Street Scrambler 2017 as well. But I´m not in very deep knowledge so I might be wrong.

@Phil480

7 жыл бұрын

The "old" Scrambler (air cooled) was discontinued last year. Triumph still show it on their website so I guess that is because they still have some stock to clear. The only ones I've seen in showrooms since buying mine have been 2nd hand.

@jirichropovsky9230

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you for clarification. But if that is the case It is a pity by my opinion. I find version you own much better. The Street Scrambler looks oddly modern to me.

What's this area?

@Phil480

7 жыл бұрын

+Toitler1 West Sussex

@Toitler1

7 жыл бұрын

Phil480 thanks man. Pretty bike in a pretty area 👌🏻

It's a lovely machine, but those indicators are pony mate. They look like the same cheap ass plastic ones I had on my old 125. Bad show Triumph. ...So were you tempted to swap exhausts? ;)

@Phil480

7 жыл бұрын

Those indicators would be the 2nd thing to go. The 1st being those hideous fork reflectors. Nope, not tempted. It sounds nice but you can't beat my cheap mod :)

You were 5ft 2" in the other video!!! ;-)

@Phil480

7 жыл бұрын

Hahah, was I? I'll have to check my actual height, it's one or the other.

Those British license plates are friggin ginormous! But then you guys drive on the wrong side of the road, so....

@Phil480

6 жыл бұрын

😆

Sorry, should have waited thru full video.