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Triumph Speed 400 [QuickTest#33]
Is the new 400 worthy of a Triumph badge on its tank, or is it just a cynical rebadging exercise?
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00:00 Intro
01:33 Equipment
04:45 Engine
07:03 Competitors
08:32 Reliability
09:58 Where's my Scrambler 400X?
11:22 Final thoughts
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They'll sell out. It's as much as you need most of the time. I'm becoming more and more a smaller bike person. Light, carefree motorcycling with no 5 minute preflight checklist before you ride. Simple bliss. Good review. Ride safe 👍
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
I get that totally, but I couldn’t justify having 4 bikes😥
@richardjohnson3463
6 ай бұрын
"User Friendly" is the phrase I'd use. I agree 100% they'll sell well 👍
@steveparish9210
6 ай бұрын
Agree just something you hop on and take for a cruise
@alb3096
6 ай бұрын
From an end of A2 experience and a serious crash with a wild animal if I buy again a bike considering that agility lightness are the key factors for me so I tried CL500, speed twin 900, scr Morini 61/2 and for 2 days the speed 400. Based on my needs out of these 4 bikes the Speed 400 is the one that ticks my priorities and I was not expecting such a torquy and easy reving engine. In my country a Yamaha xsr 125 cost only 600€ less! I ‘am about to purchase it , only a KTM 390 I still need to try.
@siddharthsharma8940
6 ай бұрын
@@alb3096 the ktm 390 is much more fun to ride than the triumph, but the after sales service is a bit spotty in some areas
Being one of the first few owners of Speed here in India, I don’t have any problem with the bike in my 5 months of ownership. One can’t get a better Bike than this for $3500 ! Even I didn’t need this bike (since I have a 225 CC motorcycle and also a Kawi 650), but the mouth watering price made me go for an impulse buy which I’m not regretting! Also, note that Bajaj is a hugely popular brand in India which makes and exports its own motorcycles in addition to owning almost 50% stake in KTM (and making their sub-500 CC motorcycles)
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
That’s good to hear! Thanks for your input and ride safe👍😊
@johnharris7353
4 ай бұрын
It's really good-looking bike!
Ordering one for my daily commute to replace the 125 I currently use. For the price it’s ideal, and the box can take the laptop etc. It also means the pride and joy can be left in the garage for dry weekends.
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Good call. It is infinitely nicer than a 125👍😊
I think it's a fine looking bike, the sort of thing I'd have gone for 25 years ago when starting. There was a dearth of 4/500's back then. I'd go for the X version though due to the higher seat, long legs... I'm jealous of the nice weather there, cold and drizzly here in the val de Loire !
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Yes, remarkably nice looking for ‘only’ €5,500 (€5,600 in France where VAT is 3% less🤷♂️). I wanted the Scrambler essentially for the legroom, too. Sinon, tenez bon, le printemps arrive😎
@johnharris7353
4 ай бұрын
I had to look up Val Dr loire! I'm in St Louis Missouri lol!
A few clarifications: 1. The Indian variant of the Speed 400 comes with Apollo Alpha H1 or MRF Steelbrace tyres, which are pretty good for our road conditions. I don't think Ceat is one of the suppliers for the 400s. 2. The stalling issue has been fixed with an ECU update already. 3. The Speed gets sintered pads, while the Scrambler variant gets organic pads. That's why the Speed brakes have better bite inspite of the Scrambler getting a bigger disk up front. This was done deliberately to offer more progressive bite on the Scrambler for dirt trails. 4. The short ratios for the first 3 gears can be annoying in stop-go traffic but once on the move, you can pick up from 30/40/50 in the 4th/5th/6th gears respectively. The engine is really tractable. I got mine mid October 2023 and am really enjoying riding it. It's a really likable motorcycle and looks handsome. Looks wise, only things I wish were different are the gold forks (would have preferred black), a smaller logo like the Scrambler 400x and wish the rear end was a more retro design to gel well with the overall neo retro design.
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the clarifications :)
@DogMania
3 күн бұрын
@@RocketMan_Moto do you know if you could put the scrambler 400x tank and seat on the speed 400? They should right? The tank emblem is classier and the brown seat looks great!
I always appreciate your measured and considered reviews and this one is no exception. Cheers! 👍
@RocketMan_Moto
3 ай бұрын
Thanks, Richard😊
RM has a very good relationship with his Triumph dealer, so relying on them to deal with any issues seems natural. Some of us are not as fortunate though. I wish the new Honda CL500 hadn't turned out so ugly. I'd probably trade my TS 660 in for one otherwise.
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
True, Triumph Algarve are good, but as a company Triumph can’t afford to ignore warranty claims
I know the tiger name has become attached to the adventure triumphs but, this bike reminds me of the tiger cub of the sixties.
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
True, hadn't thought of that! Ride safe :)
I like it. It is a perfect city bike. Looks good and just has a good vibe.
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
I agree. I wish I had a use for one😊👍
Went and looked at the 400x today ..very nice in the flesh , very impressed with it , I refused a test ride because I’m certain I’d be taking delivery of one if I did ..can’t justify one just yet 🤔
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Haha, snap!😬
Nice review RM. The Scrambler was top of my shortlist until recently when I saw the new Honda NX500. I'll have to let the test rides decide it for me. Thanks for the ride around Vilamoura... a lovely spin down memory lane for me 👍
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Thanks, Steve. Having owned a CB500X, I think the new NX will be more versatile than the Scrambler
@ChrisSauer-oe5ve
5 ай бұрын
Honda is definitely the way to go 🙌
@johnharris7353
4 ай бұрын
Two cylinders is better.
Your reviews lead and others follow. Very informative, well done.
@RocketMan_Moto
4 ай бұрын
Thanks. Glad you enjoy them👍😊
A grown-up test-person. No stupid music. No soy boy attitude. Excellent.
@RocketMan_Moto
2 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for your input :)
@ThomasDoubting5
2 ай бұрын
Soy boy ???
@teej1987
2 ай бұрын
Soy boy? Are u ok dude
@markusthedrummer8143
Ай бұрын
@@teej1987 he’s better than ok. He’s right. So yeah … soy boy! Bye Felicia
@leeinwis
Ай бұрын
😂😂, true
Excellent review.. You even researched about the ownership reviews/issues coming from India about the stalling and broken swingarm. Well done 👌
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Thank you :)
@mototom9086
6 ай бұрын
Yes, they drive with three people on the worst roads you can imagine
@NitishKaushish
6 ай бұрын
I can confirm being a Speed 400 owner with stalling issues. Last software update has resolved this stalling issue. And That swingarm case was also a 1 odd scenario otherwise cant seen any major problem in my or any bike in my known.
I don't think any reviewer has done, or will do a more-thoughtful overview and riding review of this new Triumph. The 400X Scrambler, ergonomically, would be the ideal version for me. Unfortunately though, my nearest dealer is 90 miles away...
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Thank you. I totally understand the distant-dealer problem. I think I have ruled out the Moto Guzzi Stelvio for that very reason😥
@stylin60es
6 ай бұрын
RM certainly sets a high bar
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Thank you😊
@jaredvogler6950
6 ай бұрын
My nearest d dealer is 260 miles away, but my Scrambler 1200 xe is worth it. It hasn't required a trip back "home" either
@logangodofcandy
6 ай бұрын
I bought a scrambler 1200. 90 miles is what I do for fun.
I waited six months for the bike and when it was in the showroom, it also became clear to me that it was more about the brand than the applicability. In the end, I bought a Yamaha XSR 700. Great review.
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Thanks. The XSR 700 is on the next level in terms of power… and price (+€3000). Enjoy👍😊
@davidmallia628
6 ай бұрын
Different league!
@elgar6743
6 ай бұрын
Apples vs. Oranges...clearly.
@fabiors10
6 ай бұрын
I also went looking for a Honda PCX 150 and ended up going with a Road Glide.
@ChrisSauer-oe5ve
5 ай бұрын
Smart man 👍🙌
I have also done the "smaller is better (AND more fun)". After my first moto MANY years ago, a 125cc, and then up through machines up to 1300 cc and HP from 9 to 220, my now favorite bike to ride is my 1976 Honda 400F!
@RocketMan_Moto
22 күн бұрын
I can believe that. Thanks for your input :)
@ 4:15 you are absolutely bang on with that suggestion. It really would transform the look.
@RocketMan_Moto
5 ай бұрын
👍😊
I´m waiting for the red one i purchased to arrive in a few days. I have already a Guzzi V7 850 but i think this Triumph will be a good little sister for her. Excellent review (and i watched almost every review of this bike).
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Thank you, Mauricio. Enjoy your red Speed😊👍
I just picked my Speed 400 up last week. So far, I LOVE it!
@RocketMan_Moto
2 ай бұрын
Congratulations. Enjoy👍😊
Nice real world perspective review! This little bike appears to be well made, handsome, light, performs decently and is reasonably priced machine that one can be proud of owning and being seen on. (Let's keep it real, the last two items are important to most riders.) Some what reminds me of performance/qualities of my first street bike, waaay back, a new 1981 Suzuki GSX 400, and I went everywhere with that gem...excellent economy and very decent on road performance.
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Yes, I think this bike is going to sell. Thanks for watching and ride safe :)
Thanks for this review. I'm realizing I'm not really interested in dealing with a heavy bike (for me that's 200+ kg), so this (actually the scrambler) would be perfect. Enough power to have fun, but still light weight. I'd be actually satisfied with my current CB300R if the seat would be crap. This Speed's seat looks comfy enough. Yay!
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
I can’t wait to test the Scrambler. I think the 2 bikes are more different to ride than they look
Nice review and like yourself, I'd like to see different tank graphics; this is just to gaudy for my taste, but each of us are different. I run a Guzzi Breva 750, but my daughter's looking to upgrade from her Suzuki VL250 and I think this Speed 400 might be just the thing for her.
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
A nice upgrade from a VL250 :)
I see an interesting pattern with these 400 Triumphs, i know many, many people put down deposits and then pulled out subsequently. I had a deposit down on a green 400X, test rode it and asked for my money back. Like you i thought the brakes, comfort and looks were great. I found the engine a mixed back, yes the Euro 5 snatchiness was present and correct but it's hardly unique in that regard and it was punchy enough for a 400 single but it also felt buzzy in an overgrown 125 kind of way. Worst of all however was a front end that felt so firm as to spoil the entire ride, goodness knows what it would be like even on a gravel road. I completely agree with you that when you open the garage there should be a buzz when you see the bike but if it all starts to feel a bit under developed when you turn a wheel then that smile soon fades. It's quite the polar opposite of say a Z400, a desperately plain parallel twin looks wise that has a wonderful engine and a simply sublime chassis for such a basic bike. Ultimately this will sell on looks alone because for the money, the NX500 is not a million miles away and is in a completely different league performance wise imho.
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Interesting comment about the harsh front end. Like you, I was sold on the looks, but maybe I would have backed out anyway once I'd ridden it. I wasn't prepared to take the chance. But you're right, it will sell on looks and price alone. Ride safe :)
So refreshing to have a review without the hype ( although in a recent post on my channel I called it hysteria), loved the review, and I accept its a cracking buy. PS with 50yrs of biking behind me, I was so hot in Europe last Sept I did a lot of miles glove less....not done that since I was 16..Lock me up!!! Haha
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Thanks, Graham. I'm getting a lot of stick for the gloves! ;)
@johnharris7353
4 ай бұрын
Jus get some better gloves!
I feel the same way. I have a 1300gs ordered and wouldn’t mind a speed 400 for around town fun. But it won’t get enough use to make the purchase logical. It’s funny how the extras on the BMW are more than the price of the Triumph.
@RocketMan_Moto
Ай бұрын
I have a maxi scooter for urban duties and a Tiger 900 for day trips. A 400 would just sit in the garage, unfortunately. Thanks for your input 👍😊
Bravo........excellent review. I'm guessing they will make there way to the U.S. by early summer, hopefully sooner. Once again, great job.
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Thank you. I've been told that NA will be getting these in the summer, yes. Ride safe :)
You have such a nice soothing deep voice and you sound so kind even when you dismissed the bike for yourself 😉 I don't know if this is supposed to be a small town or a city suburb but writing from India, I really really envy the nice empty roads, it's such a pleasure to watch empty roads. We only saw this during peak covid lockdowns. We would have 50 bikes in the stretch of road that was visible in front of the camera and guess what, 😎 all of them would be doing higher speeds than you were doing. Yes it can look very chaotic and very scary out here. Speed, scrambler, interceptors, Himalayas, scrams, the other REs, and a host of small capacity commuter bikes and scooters and cars and trucks and 3 wheelers and pedestrians and cattle. Whew! 😀🙏 Nice video and great skies
@RocketMan_Moto
5 ай бұрын
Thank you for your kind words of encouragement. It’s true that the roads here are largely empty, except during the summer holidays in July & August when we are invaded by tourists. Ride safe😊
With a lot of people downsizing at the moment this bike really came in as a wild card I had the KTM 390 adventure and the BMW 310 GS at the top scrapping for placement the the CF moto 450 and RE Him 450 joined in. I was going to get the KTM and tested this about a month ago and the dealership said they just got them in and did I need another test ride well I took a red and black one for N hour ride and it’s an amazing little bike I have the 400x scramble ordered replaces the Harley 883 Iron 883 2017 even gf approved. Owner of a BMW 310GS
@RocketMan_Moto
3 ай бұрын
Good choice. Enjoy😊👍
Spot on! I did a back to back test rides last Sunday with Interceptor and S400 and this is 80% of that.
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
S400? Scrambler? Which did you prefer?
@SumitBisht0
6 ай бұрын
@@RocketMan_Moto S400, scrambler handlebar is little too wide for my liking, I am 5'11 but S400 is just fine for me as a multi purpose bike.
I don't know why the Husqvarna 401 gets always overlooked. It's in the same segment with a duke 390 engine and with Pirelli scorpion tyres and spoked wheels. It also gets fully adjustable suspension at the front and preload at the back. LED lights all round. Also, It's been around since 2018 and is cheaper than the Triumph. New model coming out soon with TFT screen, bigger tank and more ground clearance. Just my observation on the press groupies you mention at the start that talk like Triumph are revolutionising the segment.
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Tbh, I overlook Husqvarnas mainly because there are no dealers here unfortunately😔
I'm currently on my Yamaha XSR125 post-CBT in the UK, but I think this will be my next bike after my test. A few years building up some NCB then onto a Speed Twin 1200.
@RocketMan_Moto
2 ай бұрын
Great choice for your first big bike. The Speed Twin 1200 requires a bit of experience, but you will enjoy it in a few years👍😊
Although I haven't yet had the opportunity to test either of these Triumph 400 models they look like one of them will be my last bike. When I can't handle the size and weight of my Tiger 800 anymore and given that imminent retirement means no need to get anywhere in a particular hurry I will probably replace it with one of these. I do agree that the logo is a bit OTT, but maybe that's because it is a bike that is aimed at a rather younger market than this old codger..
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
You can’t go wrong with either, although I did actually prefer the Speed, once I’d tried the Scrambler😊
Bearing in mind it's only 6hp down on an early 70's Triumph Bonneville it's an excellent machine and will sell very well.
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Good point. Yes, it is a very nice bike. Triumph has done well to bring it to market at such a competitive price👍
@Vegplot
6 ай бұрын
@@RocketMan_MotoI have one on order, might be with me by mid-spring.
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Excellent. You’ll love it😊
3 months ago I got what will probably be my last bike, a 2001 BMW F650Gs. I paid $2K. I'm 71 with all kinds of medical probs. Its a great little machine, with a last-forever Rotax engine. It's the newest bike I've ever owned. Before that I had a Blackbird for 7 years. Should not have sold it! Can't find one now...over here! Cheers from St Louis Missouri!
@RocketMan_Moto
4 ай бұрын
Thanks, John :)
Pity about cancelling the Scrambler but I get why it wouldn’t make much sense for you if you intend keeping the Transalp
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Transalp is better on motorways and I need that
Awesome review! After a few years of not riding, I might get back into it this spring. This is a the top of the list, along with the 2024 Vitpilen 401. Hope you get to do a review on one of those too!
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Thanks, Papi. I’d love to review the 401, but unfortunately there are no dealers in the Algarve😥
@papi96
6 ай бұрын
Bummer! I would've loved to have your take on it. I'm also seeing a lot of Tridents being sold for some significant discounts. I know its a much more powerful motorcycle. As a previous owner, worth an extra $2K, I'm in the US, over the Speed 400? Thanks again! @RocketMan_Moto
@rodbowes5309
6 ай бұрын
@@papi96 It would depend on your intended use I suspect. If you are purely riding in the city or on shorter trips, then I would go for the lighter, cheaper, more nimble 400. If you intend to take longer trips that triple 660 is sublime..
I bounced back and forth between the 2. Bought the street version. No regrets. May pick up a Himalayan when the 452s become available to satisfy the dirt roads - the Speed 400 is a bit squirrely on gravel.
@RocketMan_Moto
3 ай бұрын
I agree. The Speed would be my choice
Both weight and power figures are surprisingly similar to the '69 Daytona T100R I rode for 30 years (branded 500cc, but actually a 490 I believe)... I love lightweight, and the single combines simplicity and torque.
@RocketMan_Moto
2 ай бұрын
Yes, I have a penchant for simple, light bikes too. Thanks for your input👍😊
Seriously considering the 400 scrambler and downsizing from my 1200gs
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Interesting. That’s a serious downsize, but I get it. As I said, I do sort of regret cancelling, especially as they’re now all sold out for the next 6+ months
Good review. All said and done, is what may be the obvious choice when my scrambler 900 becomes (or when I admit it becomes) too heavy to be usefully enjoyed. I had thought I may have to follow the masses to a Hunter or even go to Caballero but this little bike looks ideal
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
I would certainly go for the 400X over a Hunter or a Fantic :)
Being not interested on passing my A license ( curently A35 or A2 license for you in there ), because in the end i dont feel the need of riding powefull bikes, i'll probably more than likely take on that bike in exchange on my Benelli 752s. I just realise how fun it is to ride lighter and nimble motorcycles is so more much fun ( for me at least ) and i'm more like still having a motorycle with a certain personality, and that Triumph has one. That why today ( for info i got two bikes ) i still prefer riding my F.B Mondial Pagani 300, even though it's only 24hp, but very light and unique in a way and that speed 400 would make the perfect pairing, and will probably cost less in maintenace and less in fuel as well. And for last.... coincidence i'm Portuguese but living in a foreign country in Europe ( and unlike you my video's... in french lol ), so thanks for showing a bit of the southern of Portugal. Muinto òbrigado por partilhar esse contiudo! Ride Safe!😉
@RocketMan_Moto
2 ай бұрын
J’ai vécu 35 ans en France avant de descendre ici… principalement pour le soleil ☀️
@Rycka1
2 ай бұрын
@@RocketMan_Moto Ah, du coup je veux bien te croire vu ton niveau de français. Profite bien de ce beau coin qu'est l'Algarve, moi je suis originaire à la base du nord, région Aveiro. 🙂
@RocketMan_Moto
2 ай бұрын
On est allé une fois à Porto. Sympa, mais un peu frais, mon épouse étant brésilienne😂
Sounds like all this bike needs is a slightly smaller rear sprocket or one tooth increase on the front sprocket to improve the gearing.
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
I would definitely look into that if I bought one👍😊
I'm going to buy it for the city or long trips, it's the value I have at the moment and in my opinion it's the best value for cost benefit. I don't think I need a higher top speed than hers on any occasion, so for me it will be great for the value and beauty of this bike.
@RocketMan_Moto
3 ай бұрын
Good choice!👍
Thanks for another great , no BS , review . It certainly looks a great little bike , if I wanted a commuter or a back lanes bike , I'd choose it over any of the 350 Enfields because it has a bit more zip. But alas it's not really the kind of bike for the roads around here . Bigger bikes that can carry luggage for longer distances are what's required [ Darn it ! ] . Time will tell if Bajaj Indian build quality/ reliability is better than Royal Enfield Indian build quality/ reliability . I'm betting there won't be much difference .
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
I agree and that's the problem I had, and why I cancelled: lovely looking but where would I actually use a 400? Ride safe :)
I haven't ridden a Scrambler 400 but sat on one, they look great though. Like you, no use for one unfortunately. I do know, they are flying out of the dealerships. A game changer for Triumph.
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Let's hope so, they deserve to be big sellers.
That was an excellent review! You answered all of my questions, including: "Is it for me?" And, the honest answer is yes! Both my bikes are 'big boi' bikes & I could use a drop a box off @ the P.O. bike, or, I only need milk for my coffee bike. I used to have a nice Hyosung 250 cruiser for them, but I gave to a new enthusiast. Or, she wouldn't give it back?
@RocketMan_Moto
2 ай бұрын
Glad you found it helpful👍😊
Err I'm not sure where the idea of the front forks being showa, but I've heard they are 'Endurance' suspension both ends, which is a very well known company in India, if they came from showa they would certainly have their name on the tin! 😊
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
You may be right. Someone told me they were Showa, but I couldn’t see any evidence of branding on them
@kevindarkstar
6 ай бұрын
@@RocketMan_Moto no, there is no obvious branding, which if these were showa would probably be on the top cap, but a few people have stated that they are Endurance units, which having bought some rear shocks for a meteor I had a short while ago, I can easily believe that, especially given its India built makes sense 👍🏻
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
I was surprised when told they were Showa, tbh🤔
The low gearing of the CB300R spoiled it for me, shoulda put on a bigger front sprocket. I think the more obvious competitors to these Triumphs are the Husqvarna 401s. Similarly priced they are better equipped, most notably with quick shifter and adjustable suspension. They've got more power and are significantly lighter. The 2024s add many more features including traction control, rider modes, and a TFT display,
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Agreed. Unfortunately there are no Husqvarna dealers in the Algarve, so I have no experience of these 401s.
@georgekrpan3181
6 ай бұрын
@@RocketMan_Moto Cheers RM!
Ideal bike to beat the congested traffic. Just slightly less better than a supermoto 400, like a drz400sm, more comfy, better flat footing, for steet only. Great value, that gives consumers better choice at affordable prices, trendy quality feel.
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for your input. Ride safe👍😊
I ride big, heavy hundred horsepower, thirty year old Suzukis. I am 63 and thinking about an old age motorcycle. The Speed 400 has certainly caught my eye! I miss the light small motorcycles I started on, a MZ TS 250, Jawa 350, Moto Morini 3 ½, and Yamaha RD400. This Triumph 400 is better in every way in than each of those (the 2 stroke Yamaha could not adapt to unleaded gas ). And a real real motorcycle banana seat!
@RocketMan_Moto
5 ай бұрын
Great bike
well done for saying that you needed to try the bike again just in case you were too hasty ,,, i am not a fan of the triumph company , - but this does look good , priced well , and has not skimped on power , -- will fit many peoples needs ..
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Yes, I think it's going to sell well. Ride safe :)
Looks good, but I prefer the Scrambler. I'll stick with my KTM 390 Duke as my second bike in Chiang Rai. Even lighter than the Triumph you're testing. Nick
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
I prefer the looks of the Scrambler, too. Unfortunately, I have no real use for either. Ride safe :)
Nice! Would be nicer as a twin. That cantilever sticking out the back, necitated by the "modern" trend for short seats and tail, is unfortunate.😢
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
I like twins, but the thump of this mono is quite intoxicating😊
Bit puzzled why you talk in Euros? Not £. Marvellous bike, will recieve mine in March. Had a demo ride in York. Looking forwards to it!
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
I live in euroland but have viewers all round the world. I can’t be constantly converting to half a dozen currencies, so I just use euros😉
Good review Mate!
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Thanks👍😊
Great. well balanced review. Thanks.
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Thank you, Edward :)
Superb review Mr RM! 🎉
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Thank you👍😊
Looks like a lovely little bike
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
It really is. Unfortunately, at the moment, I have no real use for one :)
@johnharris7353
4 ай бұрын
That's not a bad situation to be in!
I like your calm, pragmatic reviews. Will you be reviewing the Scrambler version. That is the one i woukd be interested in. Also, I tour a couple of times a year on California freeways which run at 75+ speeds, do you think it would hold up without feeling like it is abusing the engine? I had a RE 411 which I loved but felt like it would blow up every time I pushed it to those speeds. Thank you
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Thanks, John. I will be reviewing the Scrambler as soon as Triumph Algarve get their demo bike, but I’ve been told this could be a few weeks😬
@johntoth9679
6 ай бұрын
@@RocketMan_Moto Thanks bud, my local dealer is supposed to be getting them in shortly so I'm looking forward to a test ride because at the end of the day it's about how we feel riding them, right? I was really interested in the Himy but I've been told it could be a year or more before we get them stateside and I can't go that long without 2 wheels! Thanks again for your response, I'll be checking back often 👍
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Thanks, John. North America always seems to be last in line for new bikes🤷♂️
For practical reasons I never have more than one bike at a time, but if I had room for a second this would be a prime candidate.
@RocketMan_Moto
4 ай бұрын
I get that. Great second bike👍😊
Locating that diode/rectifier under the seat right next to the battery is a pinhead idea. If indeed that's what that finned metal thing is, and I can't see what else it could be. It's gonna heat up under there and burn out, and heat up the battery. The Bonnevilles used to place them under the headlight., and automotive ones have fan blades inside the alternator to keep them cool. They need air circulation.
@RocketMan_Moto
3 ай бұрын
It will be interesting to see how these new 400s fair for reliability. No meaningful data yet.
@dirkdiggler5164
3 ай бұрын
@@RocketMan_Moto I think it's just electrical physics, rocket man. LOL! Rectifiers are diodes that convert electricity to heat; there's no way around it-- that's what they do. I burned out 2 of them in 2 separate automobiles on long trips . One colorful breakdown required a long hike in Amarillo , Texas in August. I'm almost certain due to heat build up. Because the way I read the tea, that diode will act as a resistor when the battery is crying uncle due to max charge at around 13.1 volts, and the diode becomes excessively hot, and fails. That electrical output of the alternator has to go somewhere, and if the battery can't take anymore, it winds up in the rectifier. Maybe Triumph is trying to bring back the LEGEND of crap electrical problems, LOL. Well, we'll see!!! As it is, even well-vented rectifiers fairly commonly burn out on modern bikes!
My other half has a deposit on a Speed 400 for when she passes her test - hopefully in April. We sat on one just before Christmas in a local dealer but I'm test riding it for her later in February to see what they are like. She's 5 ft 6 inches so the low-ish seat height and the ability to get the seat padding modified to accommodate her is a big draw along with the looks which she loves. I'm hoping it will be the ideal progression for her from the Honda 125. Sounds like it might.
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Absolutely. It's much nicer than a 125 and should be low enough for your wife; she's the same height as Mrs RM, who felt perfectly comfortable on it
Great and objective review. One detail if I may… wearing gloves would be a nice way to set an example for new riders 😉
@RocketMan_Moto
5 ай бұрын
Thanks. I know: Gloves, an Apology kzread.info/dash/bejne/gIefrbtvabqwXag.html 😉
This would be a great motorcycle if you lived in India or a Third World country like that. But one tester said this and I think he’s the most honest tester. He said the vibration is so bad that you can only ride the motorcycle for about 5 to 10 minutes, at high speed. And yet every other review has said either there’s no vibration or it’s minimal. Unless a single cylinder is counterbalanced, there is a lot of vibration and to be honest, once you start really looking at the bike, it looks cheap. It is not a Triumph . One piston rear calipers . Nonadjustable front suspension. Rear suspension can be adjusted, but I suspect it does no real good to adjust it. No tachometer. You will spend all your time apologizing for the motorcycle. Especially when you go to a place frequented by bikers with expensive motorcycles.
@RocketMan_Moto
Ай бұрын
I think it's a 'good, cheap bike' and it's all many people can afford :)
Put an order in for a speed 400 at the weekend, test road it and loved it. I also have a Monkey bike and a Kawasaki z400. I like smaller capacity bikes.
@RocketMan_Moto
5 ай бұрын
Nice! Congratulations. I like small bikes, too. Had a Monkey and a Grom a couple of years ago👍😊
I'm trying the 400s tomorrow. I still like the KTM 390 Adventure too. I have 1200cc adventure bikes but sometimes less is more
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Absolutely. If only I could justify having 4 bikes😬
@stonkerontheroad9609
6 ай бұрын
@@RocketMan_Moto I have 7 🙂 My partner is doing her CBT though and I don't want to be 'toof toofing' around on a 1200cc bike with her. I have a Tracer 7 which is awesome for when I want something smaller but am considering if I can get away with 400-500cc. I do 2 or 3 big tours a year and have a Tiger 1200 Explorer and KTM 1290 Super Adventure for those but you know what, even then I have taken the Tracer to both the Algarve and Romania. The 1200 bikes are great but at 64, I beginning to appreciate smaller bikes. PS, Eo gosto de cedvedja preta!
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
That’s a nice garage you have there! I totally get the small bike thing and wouldn’t be without my trusty 350 scooter😀
@stonkerontheroad9609
6 ай бұрын
@@RocketMan_Moto SE England is so crowded now that I often find myself on small single track roads. On those, I don't need 150bhp
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Absolutely. It’s no better here, tbh. Mrs RM and I took the car yesterday and the traffic reminded me why I take the scooter for 99% of trips🤦♂️
I bought a Kawasaki Z400 a few years ago to have a back-roads playtoy. I liked the combination of light weight, sufficient power, and low price. I don't particularly like the way it looks. If this motorcycle had been around at the time, I would have probably gotten it instead. A little less power but much better looks. I don't gear-up to ride my Z400 to the store or on errands, though. I might do so on a Speed 400.
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
These new Triumphs are good lookers for sure👍
Que descubrimiento más bueno acabo de hacer con este canal. Me encanta. Por fin un vídeo de las nuevas triumph diciendo algo diferente, y no lo mismo que los demás. Congrats ¡
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Thank you😊👍
Excellent review as always. The scam 400 seems the perfect way to go for anyone commuting to work and fun weekends.
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Thanks, Mike👍😊 ‘Scam 400´?😂
@mikerider58
6 ай бұрын
@RocketMan_Moto imagine it was a scam 😳 we won't really know until these bike have done 20k. If that swinging arm hits something solid will it hold up. Let's hope so.
@pw9150
6 ай бұрын
Guess you think about the RE Scram 411 ??? … it’s a speedy ❤, but there’s no other better keeper than the SpeedTwin so ! ✨😜🥰
Can you install Lowering Kits on these? Planning your install adjustable ones to lower it by an inch just so I can flat foot it to get used to the bike first.
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
If you can't today, I'm sure there'll be kits out soon. It would make an ideal first bike. Ride safe :)
Just wondering is all the warning stickers on the tank are removable, or are they under the lacquer? They seem (like many new bikes), excessive.
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Easily removable👍😊
@carmelovicentrodriguez7817
6 ай бұрын
I received mine yesterday, and I asked the shop to be removed before the delivery. No prob at all.
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the confirmation👍
Im thrilled with my BMW g310r ..quite the opposite being a bike noone seems to even consider. Their loss , the group tests will reveal all
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
If you enjoy your bike, that’s the main thing. Ride safe👍😊
@judge831
6 ай бұрын
I really like the G310RS. I just hope they make a 400-500cc version.
@kramnireehs
6 ай бұрын
@@judge831 it's unlikely. The g310rr is really built for the world market not the UK market. Our A2 laws aren't the top of the agenda. I would expect some technical upgrades though. TVS make and sell the g310 as their own brand model in India and they have released a bike with Bosch six sensor lean and traction control technology. I would expect that to come across. However I like the current g310r as other than fly by wire throttle there's not much else to go wrong
I'd be interested to know what you make of the 400X at some point.....I wonder whether you'll rethink your decision on ordering one? (I have 5 bikes...I don't NEED 5 bikes....but they all get used!).
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
I do sort of regret cancelling, especially as the green ones are now sold out for the next 6+ months, but I just know that I wouldn’t really have used it.
At 71 years old, and with a brand new hip prosthesis, I am considering changing my Triumph Street Twin for a lighter machine, and with a less hard saddle. What do you think about the comfort of the 400?
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Very acceptable. The seat is about the same as my Speed Twin's, so I imagine similar to your Street Twin, but the suspension on the 400 is a bit softer, so overall more comfortable.
Good review again and nice bike
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Positive, encouraging comment again. Thank you😊👍
Thanks for mentioning reliability.
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Let’s hope it’s not a problem🤞
The bike gets Apollo H1 Alphas or the MRF Steel Brace boots in the Indian market. Both quite capable. There are no CEATs on this bike here though CEAT has just recently launched their version of similarl spec rubber. However what I don't understand or detect somtimes is a sort of predisposed bias towards the Metzelers or Pirellis from reviewers abroad. The Apollos and the MRFs are capable boots that offer almost equivalent performace for a significantly lower cost. If there's something India knows to deliver is quality at a much lower price. Goes for all our industries. Motorcycles to Aerospace. But having said that, this is certainly no Triumph. Let's be honest here. This is a Bajaj with Triumph decals for the aspirational value it adds. I bought one from the 1st 1000 motorcycles produced and it has had some serious quality lapses. Extensive and irritating valve train noise that was solved with a complete head assembly replacement. Additional issues with the headstock bearing (Caused due to a badly torqued headstock straight from the factorty) was fixed with a full overhaul of the headstock and bearing replacement. The next surprise was a metallic click noise everytime I went over a sharp bump. This left the service team scratching their heads and unable to resolve even after 2 headstocks, 3 headstock bearings and 1 entire new set of fork tubes. I decided to investigate the issue and took the fork tubes apart at home to find to my horror that the tubes were underfilled by 20% ..ie 390ML inplace of 480ML. And this was in both tubes. And I suspect the same case in my previous set of fork tubes. So yes. There are some serious production quality lapses and as of now the company seems to not be too bothered or willing to acknowledge these issues. I'm not sure where the bike you're being sold are made, India or Thailand. Hoping that the Thailand factory has better QC. Great channel. Keen follower of your content. Looking forward to more. Cheers.
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for your input :) This is Triumph broadening their range and I don't have a problem with that. OK, the Speed 400 isn't as 'nice' as my Speed 1200, but it's 1/3 the price. Thanks for the info re. tyres. Ride safe :)
Very good vid, thanks. The speed is now number 1 on my list as it passed the Kawasaki eliminator se. It just seems more like wine than beer. I only wonder about maintenance costs. Any thoughts?
@RocketMan_Moto
5 ай бұрын
I don’t expect Triumph’s 400s will be any more costly to maintain than the main competitors
Great review!
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Thanks, Pistol😊
Hi looked at a royal enfield scram 411 inquired about service intervals first service 500 miles and a valve check then every 3000 miles and as a 411 it falls into higher road tax bracket here in the UK .Where as the triumph is every 10,000 and cheaper road tax and I think the depreciation will be less on the triumph . Talking to my local dealer and they said they had taken over 40 deposits for the 400 I think it's going to be a hit. Maybe you should buy one😁
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Good points re. UK tax and servicing. I would definitely go for this 400 over a Scram 411😊👍
Like you I have a large triumph speed master but not like you I would of got rid of all the small bikes and got the 400 I'm waiting to see if any problems and then going down to triumph and buying one👍
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
I think it’s a pretty safe bet👍
Thanks for your review , I test rode one today in the pouring rain after a wet ride to the dealership, way to awkward for me and that front brake 😧 riding home on my speed twin it was like being back in bed with woman you love , old I may be but I think can live with the speed twin for a bit longer and definitely the wife. Although ride on the 400 speed might on better weather 😊 regards Fred
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
It does look similar to the Speed Twin, but it's completely different to ride, lol :)
It's definitely the best looking bike in that price range and engine size.
@RocketMan_Moto
2 ай бұрын
Agreed. And nicer to ride than the 400X. Thanks for your input 👍😊
Hey Rocketman , Would you suggest I buy a scrambler 400x for myself. I'm 5'8 , I have ridden motorcycles enough but never owned one. So it's my first bike. My 80% use is for commuting , rest I would venture gently into the highway rides and offroading. I have test ridden both, although I found myself more-at-home in the speed, I think for my stature it looks small. Scrambler on the other hand, is a LOOKER! Better exhaust sound, better posture (hence comfort) but because of the larger front wheel , it's not as flickable as the speed.
@RocketMan_Moto
4 ай бұрын
I am 6'2 but still prefer the Speed. It's got better brakes and is overall nicer to ride. That said, I agree that the Scrambler looks fabulous and can do a little off-roading if you don't expect too much. Nice dilemma to have really :)
@pbhushanbsb
4 ай бұрын
@@RocketMan_Moto Probably I'll listen to the advice you inadvertently gave during the video "Get your sensible hat on" , buy the Speed 400 and save some rupees in the process. It's still a decent looking machine, I feel scrambler appeals to that 16 yo boy in us who always wanted a modded up bike to earn some turning heads LOL . But hey, I'm turning 35 this year .. so .. Practicality over Vanity 🤣
Well it looks very good, it seems not expensive ... the scrambler as a light additional bike where i might leave the road feels attractive. There are also the 390 KTMs but the look, no no noooooo!
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
I can't wait to try the Scrambler now :)
great review and thoughts RM, you do review well - I think this is a very good move by Triumph and they've delivered to market a very desirable bike based on current trends that will sell. I have a Z650RS, which I applaud Kawasaki for delivering again at the right time and to the right market. There are rumours of a Z400RS for next year with Kawa's new four cylinder motor in it. If that's true, then I think that will do very nicely as well....
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Thanks, Tim. Oooh, a Z400RS would definitely appeal to me👍😊
@judge831
6 ай бұрын
I'd seriously consider a Z400RS (I-4) or Z450RS (P-Twin). I already have a KLX300 Supermoto, but I'd consider swapping for a Z4RS.
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Totally👍
Very desirable motorcycle, especially in Scrambler guise, unfortunately that is where it ends. In saying that I feel it was a fantastic effort by Triumph.
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
I'm with you on that. I was afraid that I would never actually use it... Ride safe :)
probably the best bang for buck motorcycle for 2024
@RocketMan_Moto
5 ай бұрын
Agreed
@tg8150
3 ай бұрын
MT-03 is way more reliable and faster. Same price minus all the factory locks for break in and service.
@leeinwis
3 ай бұрын
@@tg8150 True, if you can fit on it, I can't it's too cramped .
Amazing bike for an amazing price, for me the only downsides are the tacometer, seems cheap, and the buttons also cheap. Chain is in the wrong side of the bike, chain lube will be dificult. The suspensiom i dont think are showa, but they look similar, its some indian brand. I love that triumhp side logo, not fan of the old ones
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
I was told the forks were Showa, but I have my doubts too
Bloody good review Sir
@RocketMan_Moto
4 ай бұрын
Thanks👍😊
I’m looking for a bike to go to work which is a considerable trip (about 50km or 31 miles). Main attributes are comfort for being in the bike for longer periods price, Fuel consumption (obviously needed for an everyday use) and reliability. I’m looking at this Speed 400 as my main option, or would you happen to have other advice?
@RocketMan_Moto
2 ай бұрын
The Speed 400 would suit you, as long as your commute does not involve too much high-speed motorway or dual-carriageway. The 400 can do 120kph, but not for too long and, of course, you have almost no wind protection. Riding on a motorway is a pretty unpleasant experience on any naked.
@raphaellfms
2 ай бұрын
@@RocketMan_Moto it’s mostly urban environment, traffic and such. Probably a great bang for my bucket then
@RocketMan_Moto
2 ай бұрын
I don't think you'll be disappointed. Imho, it's the best affordable bike on the market at the moment.
I 125cc motorcycle because i had no other option on 2 wheels. After i passed my test. I went straight to 650 cc
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Many riders follow that route. Ride safe👍😊
so what are your thoughts for touring two up with some luggage between all speeds. I mean, 400, 900 and 1200. :)
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
As I said in response to your other comment: Tbh, none of the bikes you list is particularly suited to touring, at least with a passenger. The 900 & 1200 have enough power, but it would be a bit cramped😬
I agree the large tank decal is disappointing I wonder whether you could buy one with the scrambler tank paint which is much better
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
I think the only way to do that would be to buy a Scrambler tank, or else have the Speed’s repainted as I did with my Speed Twin
@richardsanders3567
6 ай бұрын
@RocketMan_Moto yeah I ride a Tiger 800 so I could just manage but I’m getting shorter by the year 😂
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Aren’t we all, Richard😔
Hi RocketMan, how does the engine of the Triumph compare to a CB500X? It seems they are somewhat in the same category of motorbikes?
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Similar, but the Triumph seems more spirited. The torque kicks in earlier👍
Thanks for the review! I think they're both great looking bikes, and for city riding (NYC here) it's all that's needed ... if you don't do out-of-town trips like myself. As for the gearing ... can it be solved with a sprocket change? Cheers!
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Yes, swapping the sprocket would be one of the first mods I would do. Glad you enjoyed the video😊👍
good review! keep it up...
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Thanks, Tiago👍😊
what are your thoughts for speeds for two up touring with some lugage. I mean between 400, 900, and 1200.
@RocketMan_Moto
6 ай бұрын
Tbh, none of the bikes you list is particularly suited to touring, at least with a passenger. The 900 & 1200 have enough power, but it would be a bit cramped😬