Just picked up a '23 xc.as my first bike. Best of all worlds.

@pbofan

7 ай бұрын

Same…just bought my ‘23 XC four days ago. Definitely best of both worlds; no interest in this new downgraded X.

Thanks for the informative review. I learned from it. At 5’11” and a 32” inseam, I think (hope) I can handle the XE just fine. I have one on order, and am waiting impatiently for delivery.

The outgoing xc model is a lot more bike that the x. The x does not have adjustable suspension or cruise control, while it has a lower seat height, if you get the accessory low seat for the xc the seat height ends up 5mm lower than the x.

Nice bikes, both of them, but the clocks they put on the X are simply appalling...Can they be opted out for the more stylish ones of the XC ?

Love my 2022 XC

Making a “classic” fuel tank without the cheap looking pinch-weld is almost reason enough to buy the rest of the bike. Why Triumph doesn’t use a similarly beautiful tank on their other retro bikes is baffling.

I bought a 1200X and love it to bits. IMO it's basically an up specced 1200 Street Scrambler which is EXACTLY what I wanted. I also have an Enduro bike, for serious off roading, which is actually taller than a XE and 100kg lighter so a XE or XE never interested me. The only gripe I have with the X is the TC in ROAD mode is way too intrusive but using SPORT or configuring a RIDER mode gets round this. Personally I'm not really bothered about what badge is on the brakes or suspension so long as they work well and they do just that.👍

I am riding my scrambler offroad, this bike is really universal.

Of course the midget will enjoy the smaller bike. Myself I prefer the big boy one being 6ft2 but let’s be honest the updates to the XE are a step back in quality to reduce costs. I’ll keep my Ohlins thanks

Nice to see Triumph reducing prices, and it's good to see there is a key in the ignition. Both of those dash/clocks are awful. As an older guy I find the info on the clocks way too small.

@quacktac

7 ай бұрын

The X has the same clocks my Trident had, personally I really like them, they're better than the TFT on my Street Triple.

@exothermal.sprocket

6 ай бұрын

Need to glue on a magnifying lens to the clocks so we can read the thousand lines of data jammed in there.

@nastysoda9212

4 ай бұрын

they reduced quality, you'd be much better off paying slightly more for those quality shocks

interesting model,very scrambled review...

Why so little hp/T over the 400x and less than tiger 900. For the same price

My r nineT , 1,170cc gets 110hp, 86 lb ft and is Air/Oil cooled. Why does the liquid cooled Triumph make so much less?

@exothermal.sprocket

6 ай бұрын

Because the entire earth will most certainly burn like a star going supernova if a motorcycle puffs a tiny bit more CO2 into the sky. 🤡💩👽

@ed.t.hansen6499

5 ай бұрын

Yes amazing and not much over the 400x --at 25% the price

The. X is the one for me

You got to use inches I'm older school in Canada

Accessories what accessories shield protection not some pathetic little deflector over the headlight. These need a tower/shield for those who prefer this over the tiger.

does the exhaust still burn your leg as it gets crazy hot?

@nastysoda9212

4 ай бұрын

yes, fucking stupid bike. Was supposed to be a legit adventure bike. Turned out to be an absolute joke

@andrewkitchenuk

2 ай бұрын

No.

@chriscargle7645

2 ай бұрын

@@nastysoda9212calm down. Not once have I had a problem with my cat getting hot, and not once have I ever burned myself.

@nastysoda9212

2 ай бұрын

@@chriscargle7645 OUTRIGHT LIE

4 minutes before Adam Childs tells us how small he is. That must be a record.

Terrible decision by Triumph: those of us in the demographic to buy this bike would have paid the extra $$. When cut value but still have to pay a lot - consumers like me will look elsewhere. The used market just became more valuable And piss on all the reviewers trying to sell it like this isn’t Triumph’s version on becoming more economic - rubbish. They keep this up they will go the same way Harley did - barely surviving

@cg1288

6 ай бұрын

I agree. I am 5'7"" and have been considering the XC because it had a lower seat height than the XE. Now they screwed the pooch with this new X. I would have paid the premium price if they would have just come out with a lowered suspension version of the XE/XC. They took away all of the good bits away now. The only thing I care for with the X, is it has a real key. This seems to be more of and upgraded scrambler 900 than the 1200.

I literally just bought the 2023 XE because of the downgraded '24 models coming out.

@nastysoda9212

4 ай бұрын

really good decision. sad they removed the best part of that model

@TwoTubesADV

4 ай бұрын

@@nastysoda9212 yeah, definately a trumped up downgrade

@FrensTimmerpens

3 ай бұрын

What is downgraded ?

I wish Triumph would go away from the gold folks.

@jonwaldmiester2222

Ай бұрын

Agreed. I fucking love these bikes but the gold forks are ugly af

I just can not get excited about any Thiumph ;-[

@MadChalet

7 ай бұрын

I'm in the opposite camp ... there are about 5 I'd like to own, but lack of $$ and space are my reality. 😥

When even a sub £6k Himalayan has much, much better clocks and functions than either of these two bikes, it makes you wonder about the quality on the rest of the bike. They look nice but too heavy for anything serious off road, drop one and it could prove to be costly in more ways than one.

@mystifiedaphid9295

7 ай бұрын

Just out of interest, what are the “better” functions on the Himalayan? I’m intrigued…

@Steve-motorcycles

7 ай бұрын

@@mystifiedaphid9295 google maps integration just for starters. Let’s not mention the much better display.

@sp33d35

6 ай бұрын

I think the 'better function' is the ability to mist up with condensation as soon as the bike is out of a showroom? or a fuel guage that sticks all the time? Happened to both my himmies. Personally I find the X/trident clocks a bit plain but functional and readable in all conditions. The XC/XE clocks are an unreadable mess to me one reason i rejected an xc after a test ride [also wanted lean sensitive ABS on a bike that expensive afer all my cheap ktm 390adv has it].

@Steve-motorcycles

6 ай бұрын

@@sp33d35 I was referring to the new Himalayan.

@sp33d35

6 ай бұрын

​@@Steve-motorcycles fair enough. the new Himmy has modern screen but is too new to know whether theyve fixed the misting and other 'character features' that i got for free with my EUR5 411 bikes. Not knocking RE, theyve revived the smaller bike market but I will wait to see how it fairs in uk climate especially as its no longer the cheap option. I would be more interested in the scram version anyway but I reckon its gonna come in much heavier than the 400x.

A 10 grand heavy bike with non adjustable suspension rubbish

Meh, that is why I am looking for an XE from 2023

Triumph dark arts.

Its a commuter. Its stable,( heavy) powerful,(probably E.U. restricted) its not a street triple so ? I'd buy a honda.

with tiger 900 the off-road version is better looking, with the scrambler the off-road version is better looking, highly frustrating when you really need the road version, why not make them both equally appealing ? it would cost a fortune getting them to look the way we'd like them, real cock up in the marketing Triumph

„Two very different bikes” is a stretch to say the least.

But WHY ? Who would want this ? eeewww

@exothermal.sprocket

6 ай бұрын

Why would everyone be like you?

@FrensTimmerpens

3 ай бұрын

I do….great looking, quick and fun to drive!!

it's literally just worse?

That looks a $7,000 bike, tops.

@exothermal.sprocket

6 ай бұрын

You ascertained that by a tiny cell phone screen?

Imagine if Ducati or KTM built a 1200cc motorcycle that only made 89 peak horsepower? Comon Triumph! You mean to tell me you can't make a 1200cc generate stonking horsepower at peak and still be completely calm and tractable when you want it to? You're starting to act like Harley Davidson.

@sp33d35

6 ай бұрын

umm ducati scrambler 1100 has same horses but a lot less torque.

@exothermal.sprocket

6 ай бұрын

@@sp33d35 That's because they have managed to downgrade that air-cooled 1078cc engine so badly to comply with Euro5 and keep it in the fleet, one way or another. It originally started in the Monster in 2009. I'm referring to engines of similar build, which would be liquid cooled.

@sp33d35

6 ай бұрын

​@@exothermal.sprocket ok with you now and yes, Triumph can get more out of the LC bonnies. Look at the TEC cams. I guess the shift to LC was about reducing noise and dropping the cost of meeting future EU emissions without redeveloping. That said, this is a scrambler platform .. a character bike for gnarly pot holed b-roads not a sports naked..Triumph has other bikes for that niche that compete on performance. I am not a triumph fan but if you want higher HP in a scrambler there isnt much choice. Ducati 1100 is lower torque by some margin. Beemer GS urban ? more poke but I wouldnt take it down a cinder track and the boxer engine isnt for me [had a R1200GS]. I'd take a 20kg weight drop over an extra 30hp anyday. Maybe its time for a svartpilen 790 scrambler to hit the market.

@exothermal.sprocket

6 ай бұрын

@@sp33d35 I suppose people might make excuses for Triumph's 1200 all day long. I just don't believe the engine is being held back for emissions purposes or because it would become unwieldy off the pavement or some other genre-based assumption. It's a 1200cc twin. It should make better power. Longevity just wouldn't be affected as people don't run these types of engines at high revs around a race track. Cams and increased valve size would probably wake it up a whole lot. Yamaha's Super Tenere is also 1200 and it does make better power (even though it could do more).

@phils2180

5 ай бұрын

I think you're missing the point here or you've obviously done no off road riding. The design brief of the Triumph Scrambler was to give it proper off road capability and you don't need or want monster power for that. Plus they're retro styled classics and built appeal to fans of that genre. If you want more power look to their modern road or adventure triple range.

225 Kg ?? in 2023, what happened to lighter materials.

@bobjohnson1633

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, cars are made of lighter stuff, too. They weigh twice as much as an old steel car.

@titisteyr3538

7 ай бұрын

Je

@titisteyr3538

7 ай бұрын

Indian 1200 FTR 233 KG LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL ✌

@Cibocino

7 ай бұрын

This price tag with marzocchi suspension and 22xkg. Geez

@larryhouse3776

7 ай бұрын

25kg heavier than the dry weight of KTMs flagship 1390 Super Duke R Evo. 225kg is not heavy.