Any questions about the feather pattern that I didn't cover?

@robertpiano9991

Жыл бұрын

when you started the layers of steel were like a sandwich then you crush corners then draw it out do you draw it out with the layers running up and down vertically before restack.

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

@@robertpiano9991 You want the crushed W's running vertically in the billet. Meaning as you press the bar, your W's are being compressed. The other way would flatten them, if that makes sense. The graphics represent the orientation of the bar.

@jeffclarke1694

Жыл бұрын

what would happen if after the cutting, you did a twist on each half in opposite directions, squared up, and reforged? :o

@landroveraddict2457

Жыл бұрын

@@jeffclarke1694 Oh IDK but that sounds kinda cool. Maybe it would delaminate????

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

@@jeffclarke1694 Once you twist something, you really lose most of the pattern. I've found that after twisting most patterns, it just looks like a twist. Plus this would have a VERY high chance of shearing apart.

Adding the graphics is a nice touch to show how the damascus develop

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

I'm happy the graphics help. Thanks for watching!

25:20 When you were pressing it and the feather was being imprinted on the scale! It looked awesome.

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

The scale coming off the billet can look so cool at times. I need to up my game on the video production and do some slow-mo shots of that. Thanks for watching, Jamie!

@landroveraddict2457

Жыл бұрын

@@TyrellKnifeworks Don't up it too much, I love the authenticity of your videos. Some channels have their cameras on tracked dollys and the video is more about the production of the video and not the work. 👍👍🎦🎦🎥🎥

What a cool pattern! Never seen "river of fire" before.

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

I really like this pattern. I'm looking forward to cutting in the bevels and seeing what it looks like. Thanks for watching.

Man I don't even know how to express how I feel about your videos. Your damascus billets are always amazing. What I'm so floored about is how freely you give the processes to us. I can imagine filming and editing gobble up a ton of time. Thank you, I am a huge fan Dennis.

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for watching, I appreciate it. 👍

@totukimou

Жыл бұрын

It doesn't matter if you know the exact details, every person, every hand, is giving a different outcome, the experience, the style, the perception, makes the difference.

Great job brother! And yes indeed, Tig is the only way to go with damascus in my opinion.

I enjoyed the explanation about welding equipment 👍

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad that was helpful, Alex! Not everyone understands the different welding techniques so I thought this would be a good thing to go over. Thanks for watching.

Loving this series on patterns it’s saving me tons of money on steel. Less mistakes! Thanks for the video bud, great work!!

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

I’m thrilled you guys are getting something out of it. Next week should definitely be something new for most!

Great video. The nice thing about tig welding is you can make your own filler rod. You can make the filler rod out of the same material as the billet.

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

Yes, you could indeed. Thanks for watching, Jeff!

Hi 👋 there Tyrell this is my first time commenting on video 📹 and I really have to say that's an amazing knife 🔪 pattern beautiful

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

You'll definitely want to checkout the full build video on this one coming soon! I'm excited about this one, having never done a spear before. Thanks for watching, Guillermo.

Thank you for sharing useful knowledge about Damascus Patterns. Hope you make more useful things!

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

Stay tuned, the patterns are just starting to get interesting! 😉

Very nice explaining in the beginning. I bet it is so so much work to do this feather damascus. Keep up the great work ❤

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

It can certainly be a challenging pattern, but on of my favorites. Thanks for watching.

Glad to hear yet another good review of the Vevor welder. I've seen quite a few now and I think I've decided to purchase the MP welder that they sell; it's like $300 I think and so still a pretty good deal for what it is. Just need to run a sub panel out to my shed and I'll be good to go. Then I can finally build a press and try out some of these patterns.

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

If their multi-process welder has the HF start, it’s an amazing deal. My HF welder is almost 3x that price!

Question: How much of the metal do you lose to the scale falling off when you press it? Is it enough to notice or insignificant?

@copper7309

Жыл бұрын

Usually you lose one percent of metal when you heat it up. You can see piles of scale around the power hammer or anvil. But the amount of steel you use decreases as you forge and heat as the billet as the billet gets smaller as you keep heating and forge . I think a math size could come up with a formula for the amount of loss over time. A long answer for a simple problem.

@copper7309

Жыл бұрын

Math wiz instead of math size. I dislike auto correct …..

@Simon-jr2oe

Жыл бұрын

It depends on how often you have to heat it and the ratio between surface area and volume of your billet. From start to finish of making a more complicated pattern I’ve heard people losing as high as 3/4 of the material but that also depends on how much grinding you do. But I would say it is always enough to notice

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

What Robert and Simon have said is spot on. This is why I say some patterns aren't realistic to do by hand because you'd need to start with so much steel because you'd have to do so many heats that you'd lose most of it to scale. This is one of those patterns. Thanks for watching.

@Asmith-1111

Жыл бұрын

@@copper7309 I feel the autocorrect pain. It kicks my ass too. Speak of the devil. I typed "the pain of autocorrect" not "the autocorrect pain."

That's gonna be one fancy spear! Thanks for the tutorial.

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I hope it turns out as nice as I hope! Thanks for watching, Bryson!

Can't wait to see the next part and the final build!💪⚒️

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

You're going to have to wait for the full build video on this one. We're on to another cool damascus project in next week's Triple-T! Thanks for watching, Dan!

Thank You!!! Great presentation! Fantastic series - learning a bunch! Gonna give it a try when I get my press going!!

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

Definitely one of my favorite patterns, this one. Give it a try, David! 👍

More great info! Thanks for sharing more of your knowledge with us! Can't wait the see the rest of the project!

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

You'll have to wait on the completion of this one. It'll be up in a few weeks I hope. Thanks for watching, Stephen!

Like always...BEAUTIFUL😊

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, Akshay!

These videos couldn’t have come in a better timing for me lol. Love seeing these I’ve learned so much!

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

I'm happy they are timely for you! Thanks for watching, Armen!

@Yousoundvaxxed

Жыл бұрын

@@TyrellKnifeworks look at the comment below yours lol

As a non knife maker I understood the first uses of Damascus was for increased blade strength. Do all these modern variations also add strength?

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

But you need to consider the steel from that period was terrible by today's standards. They first took bloom steel created in a furnace and then combined different steels in a crucible and melted them together to form traditional damascus or what we call "wootz" steel. This was stronger because it removed more impurities that plagued steel of that period. Today's modern steel is very pure and MUCH stronger so modern damascus is done by layering different kinds of steels to produce a pattern. In itself, it is not stronger but actually can be weaker than the original steel if not done correctly. You are forge welding those steels together and if any weld isn't done right, it introduces a point of failure. I hope this helps. Thanks for watching.

You’re amazing I really appreciate it how fascinated Louise playing through everything is pretty cool how many do that so appreciate it and like the show the lights up to continue on with them I’ll keep watching

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Wow mate that's beautiful. Love the graphics... Your videos are really getting better.

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

I’m glad the graphics help! Thanks for watching.

Also when you are using a scratch arc tig, to prevent pinholes, you have to roll the tungsten off, don’t lift it. We welded pipe for MANY years, and still do, before they came out with pedal start. They are nice rigs though. I need one! 😁😂

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

When you say "roll the tungsten off", what exactly do you mean? (I'm certainly no expert at tig, as you can tell). Thanks for watching, Tony!

Nice idea on the edges of the feather with the extra steel

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

This was really a great discovery. I'll be doing feather more often now given this new process I think. Thanks for watching, Terry

awesome video denis learned alot appreciate it and wow im buying 1 of those tig units it will be perfect for just damascus i really want to do feather but my buddy who welded my press together didnt leave a big enough opening for my dies he made the opening the same as the travel on my ram 8 inch so now i need to figure things out there probly gonna have to torch out the welds and re do it thanks again Mark😃👍👍

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

Email me a few pics of your press, I might be able to help. Thanks for watching, Mark

Coming along nice. Can’t wait to see the spear build. That split was stressful to watch! 😬😬Lol. Oh, the little diagrams out add are really helpful to see what’s going as you progress.

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, buddy! I’m looking forward to putting together your mosaic and showing that off! 👍

Awesome video. How long have you been making damascus? Does it take half a life time to learn? I am due to retire in the next couple of years and love this combination of art and metalworking. You really are one of the best I've seen. Cannot wait to see the finished spear.

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

I've been bladesmithing just under 5 years. It doesn't take long to learn. Watch my Beginner Series playlist, that will help you get started at bladesmithing! 👍🏻. Thanks for watching.

For the scallops removal, would it be possible to use a bandsaw, and use the steel for something else? Like bottle openers?

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

I doubt it. Plus that amounts to maybe $10 in steel... not worth the effort in my opinion. Thanks for watching, Diego.

Nicely done

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking a look!

That's cool, glad u did the wavy patterning in the video

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking it out, William!

@williammorrin7933

Жыл бұрын

@@TyrellKnifeworks would you consider doing the other way of that wavy patterning (forge then grind) technique.

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

@@williammorrin7933 What exactly do you mean?

@williammorrin7933

Жыл бұрын

@@TyrellKnifeworks you forge your billet into a wave then grind the sides down to make it straight again

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

​@@williammorrin7933 I wouldn't try to forge curves into the feather, its very prone to splitting and you would be putting a ton of stress on the exactly where the splits occur. You'd be better off adding the steel to the outside, putting in the scallops and then grinding all the steel away if you wanted just the feather (with no other steel on the sides).

Great one Denis!

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Brigham! I appreciate you watching.

Great video, should be in schools

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much, Josh! I appreciate you watching.

One of the most useful tips to date,adding side bars to the stack before you split it Good job

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

Not before you split it, but before you reforge the splits back together. This was a huge improvement on the feather process. I've always had a love/hate relationship with feather because it always tries to split as you draw it out, this totally addresses that. 👍🏻. Thanks for watching, James.

@jamesball7322

Жыл бұрын

@@TyrellKnifeworks we’ll say both then ,yes and that’s also my hate for it The splitting and the forging

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesball7322 It's just that if you forge weld on the side plates before the split, its an extra forge session, as opposed to doing it while you forge the splits together. Either way though, it's a huge improvement.

@jamesball7322

Жыл бұрын

@@TyrellKnifeworks I’ve seen a lot of wasted time on patterns that didn’t have the pop so I’m not to worried about an extra step

I got two Lincoln migs and a Lincoln 600-lb gas stick welder and a plasma cutter but really need that TIG thanks for the info! 👍

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

For $195, you can't beat it! Thanks for watching, Michael!

you make it look so simple

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

Ha, well I’ve made all the mistakes already in previous builds. 😜. Thanks for watching

Cool build.

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, Chris

Perfeito ! Obrigado.

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

Obrigado por assistir!

Super awesome

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Awesome review on the welder! I've been looking for a decent TIG that wasn't in the thousands range. Just bought one now

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

They also have a multi-process welder with these same tig features plus mig for $520. So that's a good deal too. 👍🏻

@blaneyblades4810

Жыл бұрын

@@TyrellKnifeworks yeah I got what you got. But apparently it came down in price a little bit. I got it for 180

Just an interesting fact, fusing / welding without filler material is called autogeneous welding and in my experience is mostly used with plasma welding

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking a look!

Second! 2 is a bigger number so I totally win ;)

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

haha! Thanks for following along!

Really cool

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking a look, Daniel!

@danielrussell452

Жыл бұрын

@@TyrellKnifeworks thank you I'm learning a great deal from your work 👍

I have what is probably a silly question but what would happen if you did a bar of twist pattern and stacked it like you would for a feather? Then split it just like you would a feather. I’m sure it’s probably been done but I’m wondering what the pattern would look like.

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

You'd get some weird twist that wouldn't really be that recognizable. Plus to get a twist that thick it would have to be a twisted bar stacked on itself. I'm not sure what it would look like but probably something akin to a crushed W feather. Thanks for watching, Bill.

😮 sooo cool

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, Marty! 😉

Hey Denis, Another great video! Now I'm going for the Tig welder and will have to get an Argon cylinder. What size do you use, and what regulator? Thanks again for all that you do. Please continue the great work!

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

I just have a 60cf tank and a basic reg off of Amazon. Thanks for watching!

when you stack your steel on top of each other you draw it out then you crush corners for your C then do you flip the billet on its side so the layers are different than when you started. i hope i explaind it as best as i can

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

When you stack your steel, you keep it in that orientation to crush the corners. Then you turn it 90 degrees so the layers are running up and down and press the bar flat. Make sense?

Awesome video Denis (as usual). An idea for the river of fire. I am curious what it would look like if you layered in a little 15N20 with the 1084 on the edges or even get a little crazy and substitute the 1084 for some cu mai.

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

Sure, you could even do Damascus edge bars, though you’ll grind a fair amount away. For this spear build I want the “shore” to be black. 😉. Thanks for watching.

Your videos are so informative I just subscribed. I have a 20 ton press and it seems to work hard doing this. How big of a press would you recommend? Thankyou Sir.

@TyrellKnifeworks

9 ай бұрын

20 tons should be plenty to split a feather. Just do it slowly and make sure the billet is very hot. My press is only 28 tons, so not much more than yours. thanks for watching, Joe.

@joelongstaff7601

9 ай бұрын

@@TyrellKnifeworks Thankyou Sir. I'm looking forward to learning more from your videos.

Excelente..

@TyrellKnifeworks

Ай бұрын

Obrigado por dar uma olhada.

You can buy wire for AR 500 that's a lot harder than typical ER70 wire for mild steel? I'm not a blacksmith but been a welder for 40 yrs, don't know if that helped or not?

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

That wire would still not be the hardened steel that matches the steel in the work you're doing. It would show up differently when etched and look like a blotch. You don't want to introduce any different steel into the work piece and I very much doubt you'd find exactly the same steel in a wire for a mig. Thanks for watching.

I really enjoy watching your videos. Very impressive and informative. Have you watched any videos from Manuel Quiroga? He has only a few out on youtube but does some fantastic work. If you haven't seen any-check him out. Not sure if this is listed under the full name or not Manuel Quiroga Güiraldes.

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

I’ll have to check him out. Thanks for watching, Jonathan.

Did the blade deflect during the cutting of the billet?

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

Yes, the wedge actually deflected. I had to hammer it straight after that. It’s 1/4” thick! Thanks for watching, Dan

it is posible to combine like fether damascus and turkish twist?

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

I always consider a twist on its own. Once you twist something, it really muddies the pattern and you lose any other pattern you did unless the twist is very loose. Generally its better to treat these on their own. Thanks for watching.

Feather is my favorite .I don,t have a press. Could I do a simple by hand?

@whatTheFup

Жыл бұрын

As it is a variation of hot cut, it should be doable by hand, depending on the size of the piece would probably require a few reheats

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

I disagree a bit, I don't think feather is a pattern you can realistically do by hand. The problem is the number of layers, the crushed W's and the forge weld of the tall stack are incredibly challenging to do without a press. Could you do it with enough time and effort, sure. You're probably going to need 3x the amount of steel though because you're going to lose so much steel to scale.

@donbunker7781

Жыл бұрын

@@TyrellKnifeworks Thank you sir

Could this be combined with the raindrop pattern to add eyes to the feather, like a peacock?

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

You won’t actually see rings though when you do the holes. The feather pattern goes the other way through the billet. You’d get something but it wouldn’t look that circular and not like eyes. Thanks for watching.

hey Tyrell Cj here from grayson Ga qt can you tig weld without the gas

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

No, you can’t tig weld without shielding gas. You need the 100% argon or what you’re welding just oxides. Thanks for watching.

@cartermack9535

Жыл бұрын

@@TyrellKnifeworks and thank you for the responce and happy new year to you and your family

Idk why but I somehow always expect you to say "Tools, tips and tacos"

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

Hmm.. I love tacos! Maybe I'll add that in the future. 🤣. Thanks for watching.

@plutonium87

Жыл бұрын

@@TyrellKnifeworks Hehe :) Thanks for an awesome video, as usual. I respect your knowledge.

Best 3 pairs of tongs for the newbie knifemaker?

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

#1 Bolt jaw tongs, #2 Z Offset tongs, #3 Wolf jaw tongs. Some people like box-jaw tongs but you need a bunch of sizes. I hope that helps.

@astormofwrenches5555

Жыл бұрын

@@TyrellKnifeworks thanks again!

I broke down and bought a higher end yes welder tig/stick.

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

For the amount of welding I do, I can’t justify an expensive welder. I’m sure you must do a fair amount at work?

@HeavyForge

Жыл бұрын

@@TyrellKnifeworks agreed! The yes welder I bought was 450 they have a lower end model that’s about 279. People seem to like them and they have pretty good reviews. No way I’m spending the money for a miller to fuse billets!

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

@@HeavyForge The vevor multi-process with a foot pedal for tig is only $520 so that's a great deal. I wish I got that one instead. 🤣

Wait, what?! 200 bucks for a TIG machine? Might have to grab one 🤔

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

Remember though you need an argon bottle and reg, so that's another $200. Still, $200 bucks for a welder is a crazy good price! Thanks for watching.

What ever that cutting wedge was made of you injected that in your blade

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

No, it just melted back. There's no mild steel in the billet, you'd see it in the etch if there was. This wasn't my first time using this wedge. Thanks for watching.

I’m unable to pull up your website

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

I just tried and it’s working fine. Http://www.tyrellknifeworks.com

@BulykrynVancho

Жыл бұрын

@@TyrellKnifeworks it’s working now, if only to make me look dumb 😁

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

@@BulykrynVancho No worries, thanks for letting me know.

@BulykrynVancho

Жыл бұрын

@@TyrellKnifeworks side note: would love to see this pattern on a butterfly knife

First!

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

You guys are funny! Thanks for watching!

As i recall when i first learned how to use a TIG machine was rule number 1: Don't touch the electrode to the work piece because it causes contamination of the weld. So im wondering what the maker of your first machine was thinking... Love the series btw :)

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

It's very common to have a lift-tig start on the lower end machines. When they mean that rule, it was after the arc is started. Thanks for watching.

That tungsten was sticking WAY TOO FAR outside the ceramic cup on your Tig torch. Also on the Tig welding, you don’t need to only use the mild steel Tig rod like ER70S or simply fusing the steel, you can actually get high carbon steel wire like 1080 wire from McMaster-Carr on a roll in various diameters so you are welding with steel that can be incorporated into the Damascus without needing to be completely ground out

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

As you can tell, I’m no expert welder. Thanks for the tips and thanks for watching.

@peltiereric6497

Жыл бұрын

@@TyrellKnifeworks you should really try using a foot pedal if your new welder will accommodate one, either a foot pedal or a thumb wheel on the torch as they both function the same just one uses your foot to turn on and turn up the juice and the other has a thumbwheel that rotates to do the same thing

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

@@peltiereric6497 It doesn't support a foot pedal. It just has the button for gas/HF on/off.

so it's like a feather/serpent pattern

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I guess you could call it that. Thanks for checking it out.

218th😎😂

@TyrellKnifeworks

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣 Thanks for checking it out!