This project screams "clear case when?"

@RetroSho

Жыл бұрын

For real! When's the clear case!

@LIRetroGaming

Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t agree more! Here’s hoping that it happens

Love seeing these mods on the top loaders. Really brings an NES to the very pinnacle of it's power.

Journey To Silius is my go to game when testing! I just love hearing that music fire up after a repair.

It’s always nice to check those todo boxes!

Great video! Awesome job making the top loader work again. I have the NESRGB in my AV Famicom, it really is a great mod.

@LIRetroGaming

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it felt good to resurrect this one, and even better with the NESRGB

I really appreciate the Turbo Tuesdays, and I don't get enough opportunities to solder in real life, so all of your content is really appreciated. It's fun stuff.

@LIRetroGaming

Жыл бұрын

I really appreciate that, it’s good to be back making videos again!

Don't usually comment and stuff. But subbed 😊 I love the content, I watch many people mod stuff. However you seem to be one of the most informational, yet to the point one I've seen! You bring up different views or that you can source parts from other things/places

@LIRetroGaming

Жыл бұрын

I really appreciate that, I try to share as much information as possible without being too overwhelming either

Great video, as always. I have never seen a top loader in the wild, but I am digging your mod, here!

@LIRetroGaming

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy it! This was a fun project to make

I have always said that Fridays are great days and watching these types of videos makes it excellent, I congratulate you bro for such an excellent project with this top loader.

@LIRetroGaming

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much bro, always appreciate the support

Thanks for the video. Dear OpenTendo please release a all-in RGB board!

@LIRetroGaming

Жыл бұрын

It would be very challenging to do that. I talked about it a little bit in this video. not impossible, but expensive and challenging.

Excellent video as usual brother! So awesome to see an old destroyed NES given a new life! 🔥🔥

@LIRetroGaming

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I’m glad that this one will be enjoyed by people at the next gaming expo, instead of sitting around in my parts bin!

@Heymrk

Жыл бұрын

He resurrected a case and six components. A ship of Theseus. A really good mod, though.

Welcome back man! Always great to see you with a new upload!!

@LIRetroGaming

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, it’s good to be back!!

You inspired me to make a 'new' NES. Love watching your vids. Went as planned, custom painted Zelda top loader, with nes I/O and RGB mod

@LIRetroGaming

Жыл бұрын

Awesome! Excellent work and I wish I could see some pictures

@r.a.w.talentart

Жыл бұрын

You can on insta

Informative and impressive as usual. I'm almost inspired to try this myself! Maybe I'll look around for a non-working toploader salvage parts from.

@LIRetroGaming

Жыл бұрын

It’s definitely a lot of fun to build one!

Great job! I am impressed!

Damn that Isolated Warrior chiptune just made you work five time faster...

Great job!

Nice video!!🥳

Adding in a nesrgb would make it more expensive indeed. But they could have added a few headers for it so the jumper wires would have been easier. Same thing with the power supply, change it to USB power. Many TV 's don't have RF anymore. So replacing the RF box with a simple composite out could be done. You don't need the nesrgb for that. The voltage mod for expansion audio could also have been integrated. Lots of small points to make it more compatible with the modern day. I do get that they start with recreating the original first, but a plus version would be nice.

How do I find the specifications for all of the sockets? The bom only lists the sockets for the ppu and cpu (I'm assuming). My board is on the way and I can't wait to start this project!

EDIT: So what I'm seeing is that at the very least, if we want to convert a frontloader, we'd need power and reset switches, AV-out circuitry, some sort of adapter for the controller ports, sourcing a shell, and a 72-pin edge connector. Is there anything I'm missing? I assume it's easier to get a kit of all replaceable components so you don't have to de-solder and then re-solder those same components to the new board. The chip callouts on the Opentendo board all match everything I see on my own frontloader.

Considering to from my understanding they don't make that connector for the front loader anymore the blinking red light wins mod which is out of stock and it has a death grip on your cartridge and if you can find one they're expensive

What about the jailbars and AV ?

Love these videos, finally got my hands on a top loader! Also just managed to purchase a rgb board before they sold out! Taking console modding work again? Cheers

@LIRetroGaming

Жыл бұрын

Yes sir! I can take care of that NESRGB install for you

Another Great Video! When using the Everdrive N8 Pro on a Top Loader with Expansion Audio, did you need to modify the Everdrive at all? Also how should the Audio Balance option be set in the Everdrive?

@LIRetroGaming

Жыл бұрын

You do have to close one jumper on the everdrive to enable expansion audio for the toploader, but otherwise you don’t have to change any of the sound settings

So, if the RGB is completely formed on the NESRGB such that it would be in spec with straight cables, then won’t capacitors in the SNES cable cause out of spec RGB? Something isn’t adding up. I saw where you acknowledged this with regards to the Super 8’s Genesis 2 output and suggested alternate RGB sources but I haven’t seen anything about doing this with SNES cables.

@LIRetroGaming

9 ай бұрын

That is a very good point and I don’t have a good explanation. But that being said, I did measure RGB voltages on my oscilloscope and they looked the same as my other console that uses the standard 8pin mini din. So I don’t think the RGB is out of spec but I don’t fully understand it either

@emmettturner9452

9 ай бұрын

@@LIRetroGaming Thanks. Since mentioning it I noticed that the NESRGB frontloader instructions page links to the “notes about the recommended RGB connector” page while the AV Fami NESRGB instructions do not… and that link is the part that implies the NESRGB is optimized for straight cables that should have no components. The AV Famicom instructions specifically say you must use a PAL GameCube spec SCART cable, which has the 220uF capacitors like NTSC SNES spec. It even says you have to remove the 75Ω resistors from PAL SNES-spec SCART cables, though you could obviously bypass them on the NESRGB board instead. What it does not say is whether or not you need to add 220uF capacitors to the PAL SNES cables, which makes me think it will work either way. So the two sets of instructions seem to contradict each other. The deeper I dig the worse it gets! ;) I checked out some old Voultar NESRGB multi-out videos that predate the QSB and he says you must remove 220uF capacitors from the NESRGB board to use with SNES-spec cables that have 220uF capacitors built in, since connecting the capacitors in series will somehow lower their total capacitance below spec… but those capacitors are nowhere to be found on the current design. It’s frustrating that there are no official instructions or statements on this from him or LaserBear because that would clear it up in an instant. There are no instructions even for the older NESRGB kits that have capacitors you can remove. One possibility I thought of is that the capacitors moved to the mDIN8 breakout board but there is no mention of that anywhere and the guy I’m making cables for never had them (bought his system pre-modded). If they moved then it would make perfect sense because they’d automatically get left out/removed simply by virtue of using the SNES multi-out instead. No mention of that in the NESRGB4.x notes or anywhere else and all the videos I see don’t show or mention an updated mDIN8 board.

Although I appreciate the effort for making this board, I can suggest here a few improvements for a future revision: - Use the AV Famicom´s PPU layout which will prevent jailbars and give a much clean picture. - Include an on-board circuit for Composite out. - Allow the use of clone/chinese 72-pin connectors that are readily available for cheap so we do not have to desolder the original connector.

@LIRetroGaming

Жыл бұрын

Some good news, I have already tested the clone 72 pin connectors and they work with the opentendo. I believe adding composite to the board would be straightforward. Redherring32 is also planning to recreate the AV Famicom as well

YAY! MORE VIDEOS!

Really cool build, wonder how hard it would be to make one from scratch without already having a top loader for parts

@LIRetroGaming

Жыл бұрын

For now it is not possible because a few parts are specific to the toploader. But some people are working on a version of this board that would make that easier to do

So if wanted I can just get the pcb board and use that and shove it into an arcade cabinet without the top loader shell and it just be an nes arcade machine?

@LIRetroGaming

Жыл бұрын

Well sort of. You need to install the NESRGB as well, and then create an adapter to send RGB video to the monitor, sound to the speakers, and controls to the control panel

@feracopictures9322

Жыл бұрын

@@LIRetroGaming I know I’ll need the nesrgb board that’s a given, I own many arcade dedicated machines and built a few to make dedicated machines for the pcb games they belong to.

I’m a beginner on soldering, do you think the opentendo mod is for me?

@LIRetroGaming

Жыл бұрын

No this is a pretty difficult mod for beginners. I would start with more basic repairs first before attempting a mod like this

I noticed that you didn't use any flux. Was it a solder with flux in it?

@LIRetroGaming

Жыл бұрын

Yes it was, it’s Kester 60/40 rosin core solder. I did use some flux occasionally, but only as needed

@TheSocialGamer

Жыл бұрын

@@LIRetroGaming I never tried the stuff but glad you showed it being used, saves time when doing so much soldering. 🤘 Awesome video!

I’d recognize those nippers anywhere. Guessing you have a creality printer?

@LIRetroGaming

Жыл бұрын

Yes sir!

Hearing the Turtles music 😂 You can just walk over it?

@LIRetroGaming

Жыл бұрын

I love that AVGN episode

So you do not need to add the VGA to the board, but if you made a nice set of pads do do the mod, that would be a good idea

I am going to ask a painfully newbie question here, so hang on tight. Since this RGB mod can output component, is there a good way to convert that into HDMI (internally)? I ask because this is a small form of future proofing that I can install so my nieces can enjoy the original games for years to come.

@LIRetroGaming

Жыл бұрын

It’s easy to do externally with a device like the retrotink. There used to be an internal hdmi mod for the nes, but those are no longer being made. Hopefully someone will revisit this idea in the future

Nice work. Is there a Famicom version?

@LIRetroGaming

2 ай бұрын

Yes you can get a Famicom version here retrogamerestore.com/store/fc_hvc_cpu07/

What would you charge to do the mod?

@LIRetroGaming

10 ай бұрын

You can reach me at my website and we can work things out

This exist for Snes and N64??? like and openStendo and openN64tendo?

@LIRetroGaming

Жыл бұрын

Not yet, but I’m hoping that this gets developed in the future

@alvaroalfaro8979

Жыл бұрын

@@LIRetroGaming 2nd Q. Its there a opentendo with RGB or HDMI mod already included?

Don't know why Nintendo went backwards with the RF output in the top loader, when the OG was composite

@LIRetroGaming

9 ай бұрын

It’s a cost saving measure but yeah it was a bad move

You can make the chinese one work but the pins bend super easy on them. Use a nintendo part if you can.

@LIRetroGaming

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree. If you have the official cart slot it’s way better

Anybody have a spare top case lying around? Lol have a bottom and a board to rebuild, but no top.

@LIRetroGaming

Жыл бұрын

Lol I have the same problem

I love that blue board shame the rgb board almost completely covers it! Otherwise than that Ove this mod❤❤

@LIRetroGaming

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the blue board is gorgeous!

Can someone please revive Kevtris NES HDMI mod? My friend has one and the picture looks SO crisp. Surprised this isn’t a thing in 2024.

@LIRetroGaming

5 ай бұрын

I would absolutely love this. I hope that someday pixelFX takes on the job!

Pershizzle PPU

If your original top loader was dead, why did you attempt a PCB swap, rather than just attempt to fix whatever was wrong with it? Were you aware of something specifically wrong with the original PCB that only a board swap would resolve? Best wishes.

@LIRetroGaming

Жыл бұрын

The original board had extensive water damage, with dozens of cut traces and a few of the discrete logic chips were rusted out. Thankfully all the proprietary parts were still good so I extracted them for this build

Are the parts available? I stopped watching mod videos because they would always show really neat mods that the content creator got for free that were never ever in stock. And if they were "available" they made a whopping 5 units that were sold out in minutes, never to return again. KZread is littered with those types of videos.

@froggore52

Жыл бұрын

George makes it very clear in the video how to obtain each part. Most are generic and easy to find, some have readily available reproductions, and a few will need to be sourced from another NES.

@LIRetroGaming

Жыл бұрын

Yes, thankfully the parts for this project are available. For now you need a donor toploader or av Famicom for this one, but it should be possible to make one with any donor nes/famicom soon. I try to avoid making those videos with unobtainable mods, because then the videos become pointless. It’s only worthwhile to make these videos if people can use this information

@scottb_02

Жыл бұрын

Save the rgb board, keeps selling out in hours!