Nice looking bike that! Was only a matter of time :-)

@dman5703

2 жыл бұрын

You would know you make a living off ebikes

@th_js

2 жыл бұрын

@@dman5703 Grammar has left the chat..

Can't help but feel this is a very diplomatic review, the trend is heading toward slacker, more travel, bigger battery, more ride time. The extra battery doesn't have to mean more weight either. Could this bike have been on the drawing board a few years ago and only now released ? I'm sure it rides really well but so do a lot of others that run Bosch motors that don't have the Shimano rattle. Welcome to the party Transition .

@JasonVanHorn

2 жыл бұрын

yep. The first upgrade anyone I know would do is to bump the 38's travel up to the max.

@xfortysd40

2 жыл бұрын

Which I don't get at all. My first ebike, I thought I needed the biggest battery possible as that's all you hear! I thought for sure I would be going on these huge 4 - 5 hr 50 mile rides! Realized after a week spending the extra cash for the 700wt battery for the Levo was a complete waste. As I also realized, my riding style and what I like didn't change, dh riding, just meant I could do 5 times the laps, but didn't need a huge freaking battery and all that weight. I hate this direction, quickly sold that thing and got myself an Orbea Rise! Thing absolutely shreds and the best thing, rides like a normal bike! It only comes with a 360wt battery but is perfect, I can easily crank out 18 mile / 3000ft rides with just over 20% battery left. Perfect shred session. I live in So Cal so I'm not having to climb 2000ft just to get to the trail head, nor do I need a huge bike for my local trails. Where 90% of my riding takes place, 2 1/2 - 3 hr rides and I'm done. For bigger days or park, I got my enduro rig for. I think all these companies are completely missing the mark, pushing bigger, burlier, super large batteries down people's throats when probably majority of people really don't need it! Just my 2 cents, give me more options of ebikes with 160/150, 400wt internal battery withe external option, 64.5 hta with geo change if you want slacker, 43lbs, perfection! This release here is boring AF, it's like...well..I guess we should release an ebike to stay relevant and make money but do absolutely nothing at all to advance things. 🥱

@LastAphelion

2 жыл бұрын

@@xfortysd40 Well now we're getting the Relay :D

Maybe don't send the guy who hates e-bikes to try to sell your e-bike. Guy was more worried about loosing his cred with his crew as if he were in high school or something instead of selling a bike that his company worked hard on.

@Hybrid330i

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, been riding e for 4 years now, finally the crew I ride with are now all buying them too. It does get cute the old school haven't moved on in their heads while the rest of us are getting way more trail time in, the break for lunch isn't finish time boys, we only half way through the day!

The guy from transition talking still hates ebikes you can tell, didn’t exactly sell it well😂, they clearly made it to not be left behind but you know they didn’t really want too… I’ll stick to specialized, a brand that love ebikes

I don't get why they don't make a bike similar to Rise. That's just the best concept. A normal proper bike, that happens to have a motor.

First transition with integrated cables 👌

The bikes and frame and colour options are great. Would of loved to have seen bigger battery and a Yamaha motor and a little smaller rear end

Like the philosophy they took. I've got 750wh and I NEVER use even half. Not looking for a motorcycle with pedals. He's so right, having an eBike doesn't replace my regular bikes, just gives me that option to explore or do a crazy climb. Also very useful for mixed riding groups: no one has to hold the group up. Now if only they weren't illegal everywhere in Socal :(

@Vanadium

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds weird if you cant use the full battery, ride more?

@xfortysd40

2 жыл бұрын

Illegal in So Cal, where?? I live in SD and zero restrictions! I think they missed the mark completely on this release. Should have done a light ebike with an external battery option. This release is boring AF, just another tank, yawn.

Man, contain your excitement about this bike, I may just get one....geeze

"I feel feel your anger" 😂

An E-Bike with hoses/cables routed through the stem.... all the things I don't want in one package. Sweet!!

@tyrelthibault5264

2 жыл бұрын

A bike snob that’s a dinosaur. Are you still riding a Breezer Series 1? If not your a hypocrite and you should go back to a fully rigid, v brake bike otherwise your cheating the original mountain bike.

@ThunderStruckMTB

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyrelthibault5264 I'm a dude who loves to ride a bicycle and who works on ALL of his own equipment. I don't drop off my $10K motorized bike at the bike shop to have them install new brakes or headset..... I'm guessing you do.

@Vanadium

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyrelthibault5264 LUL , people know that this crap is not work for a long time and make maintenance just shit in general. You are the type of person who really likes stuff you cant replace with anything else? IF this crap would work and would not be a unnecessary hassle any big ass brand would use it. Its a solution to a problem that not exist. You cann really even see that dirt is getting into the opening of that headset. Its so dumb! @7:47

Sort of sounds like they didn’t want to make this bike to begin with and it shows in the final product. If I’m going to spend over $8k on a bike, I’m going to buy it from someone who actually enjoyed creating it.

@kneawah

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, mate. I got the same impression

@Builtforthewild

2 жыл бұрын

100%

@MrUnl0rd

2 жыл бұрын

"giving in" is exactly what they did. Too bad they didn't call it the Petrol name, that atleast would have been funny

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I like your thorough review. I don't like another e-bike on the market. Being a Transition owner/ rider I feel they are getting far from their stylish frames and uniqueness. Repeater is the first of it's kind from Transition and I look forward to being old enough one day to see the need for a badass e-bike. Until then I will stick the pedaling as I'm used to. More advances in technology will provide an e-bike in the future I will hopefully be enticed to ride.

Love transition. They make fantastic bikes. But don't love the idea of yet another 50lb+ e-bike. Not against e-bikes mind you, just not into the fat, heavy, ugly, cumbersome plows, with excessive assist that most of them are. Need more lighter 38-42lb options like the Specialized Levo SL and Orbea Rise.

@xfortysd40

2 жыл бұрын

Completely agree! I think these brands want to the least possible and just release a bike. Why actually innovate when people will buy it. So glad I bought the Rise. Haven't seen a bike come out since with anything worth while or pushing things. Just a boring release.

@canieto1

2 жыл бұрын

Full fat eBikes are so freaking rad! I felt like the transition people being interviewed were succumbing to the peer pressure of ebike haters. If You build an ebike ,just fucking own it. don’t apologize for it you don’t need to say if it’s going to replace a regular mountain bike or not just make a good eBike and put it on the market we’ll decide the rest

The newest turbo Levo is easy to manual and bunnyhop, though both require a lot more muscle than a normal bike. Using a smaller back wheel for shorter chainstays was such a good move as the Levo is plenty stable, but still fun on flat or steep trails. Expensive AF however…

What were the NW trails that were in the video?

It's a mtb replacement they are just scared to say it lol

@mclurebailey6652

2 жыл бұрын

It’s just different

@1111TerryD

2 жыл бұрын

Bingo

tbh this is more like an ad than a review

@axiomic

2 жыл бұрын

and a terrible one at that!

Classic transition frame paint…

Internal routing through the headset 🤮🤮🤮 no…..just no

I tried an e-bike. It was horrible! I had to ride 3x as many trails to get the same amount of exercise. I don't want to have that much fun. Boo Transition!

@MrUnl0rd

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! I feel the same way about gears.

@axiomic

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrUnl0rd Yeah, mtb'ing isn't as pure as gravel fixie, unicycle or barefoot trail running anyway..

@Vanadium

2 жыл бұрын

@@axiomic I must say bearfoot trail running is something else man.

@axiomic

2 жыл бұрын

@@Vanadium it sure is. But could be argued to be the most pure trail transport.. I do trail running and eMtb, but not at once 😛

@donbenincasa7442

Жыл бұрын

Opinions are like belly buttons…everyone has one. Do you harass people at the gym for using assisted exercise machines too. Americans need to get moving, and if an ebike helps, get one 🥳🍻

Are we not going to talk about the water bottle? Haha...

So confused, review was not very favorable and a dozen issues were mentioned but it ends with like "yea its great 2/10 definitely recommend" like... Could you really recommend it over more refined e-bike options?

@th_js

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I don't see why anyone would choose this E-bike. Only case scenario in which I'd see this happening is when a customer tries out multiple bikes and prefers this, but based on what's on the paper, no way.

I've owned a Canyon Spectral 7 on, and I just bought the brand new 2022 Heckler after selling the canyon. One thing I will say about the repeater build sheet is i am disappointed in the battery because I feel like it should be in the 720 range to be competitive. They did get it right on the hubs. Some E-mount bike makers are skimping out on the rear hubs in their base models which in most cases are 8100+. For example Canyon uses a non sealed bearing 510 Shimano hub that is total s***. The Santa Cruz Hecker is using a base sram hub. If you're going to charge people $8,100 for an opening bike at least put a decent Hub on the back of the bike. These bikes take a lot of abuse on the trail and the rear wheel needs to be solid. The repeater is very beautiful and it really doesn't look like an e-bike. But they need to come through with a bigger battery.

@sgtkurry

2 жыл бұрын

I too also have the 22 Heckler and coming from a 21 Rise, 21 Rail and 22 Levo the EP8s in general have poor range at the same battery capacity compared to the other 2 main competitors. I think the reason they went with the 630w is they just couldn't get the weight of their frame down. I have a 21 Sentinel as well and for what it is its heavier than my 21 Ripmo V2. I think their frames are just overall a bit more beefy and the Sentinel has a long wheel base, its by far the longest out of all my bikes I believe.

@panhandlemtb4308

2 жыл бұрын

James W & shrcurry how do you like the 22 Heckler? I demo’d a 21 or 20 Heckler and loved the way the bike felt playful and nimble. It was really easy to get along with for me and even felt light once moving or in the air. The only thing I did not like was how the motor would top out so quick. Is there a big difference between the older heckler and the 22 heckler. The motor is different, no?

@sgtkurry

2 жыл бұрын

@@panhandlemtb4308 I think it’s a good upgrade from the old heckler. Motor is the same from the 21’ heckler. Newer one is more poppy and balanced. Though I think the levo and rail are better eBikes. EP8 is my least favorite motor.

@jamesw1791

2 жыл бұрын

@@panhandlemtb4308 I think the new Heckler is a lot like the new Bronson and I've always loved the Bronson I've owned the first generation for a long time and it was just a great bike. The Shimano EPA motor can be tweaked in the app to make it more user-friendly. I thought the motor was fine but I don't know what you're used to so it's hard to say

@dft1

2 жыл бұрын

why did you sell the canyon spectral On, just curious?

Hopefully by the time I’m ready for an e-bike there will be a standard socket which all e-bikes will use so you can switch out the motor as newer / better stuff becomes avail. This bike looks great, but $8K-$11K, IMO, is a ridiculous amount of money for something that may be outdated motor wise the minute you buy it. The bike was built around the motor (watch the video). Perhaps newer Shimano motor down the line, but would rather have the option to go with someone else if need be.

@mattving61

2 жыл бұрын

They really should have a standard mounting system. Although I imagine that the major players already do this. Except you’re limited by brand.

I love my transition, but the paint is quite bad, my spire is barely three months old and already has many small paint chips.

What shoes is the rider wearing in this edit? Oh, Transition builds the most fun bikes in the business, period.

Anyone else notice the water bottle? Lol...

Very nice, but the geometry too grandpa with these chainstays too long .....

There's no downside to Ebikes, one Ebike can do it all

Looks like the bike of yesteryear today.

Nothing innovative about this bike. This should have been released 2 years ago. What we need is a bike like the Rise but with more travel. I demoed that bike for two days and that’s the future of ebikes, not a bike that’s over 50 lbs. The Kenevo SL is super sick but needs more than 35 nm of torque.

Cannot wait to swing my leg over this one. I personally dislike the Bosch system with its crap display system and mechanical ride feel. So happy they went with shimano 👌 I currently ride a Sentinel V2 so I am very excited 👏

@finbox1000

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrSupermugen that’s funny, I have had a bike with the e8000 and ep8, never an issue, my mates shimano’s never an issue either. I am very careful with how I clean and don’t ride through deep water.

Just here for the comments.... so much ignorance

630 WH, bummer the standard for long excursions is now above 700- I wonder what held them to that spec.

@emtbtrailrider539

2 жыл бұрын

600-700 wh batteries is good

disappointed, ep8 is a second-tier system and I hate carbon frames....maybe the next model.....

Specialized is clearly the king of ebikes. Years ahead of the competition right now.

@Scatology900

2 жыл бұрын

with competitive prices too.

@323johnnybravo

2 жыл бұрын

@@Scatology900 they have some alloy builds that aren’t too outrageous

@Vanadium

2 жыл бұрын

@@323johnnybravo how are they years ahead? Their E-MTBs get FUCKED in the EEWS. Their motors overheat and thus those things are not winning and got nice maintenance. Just ask anyone who rides in this discipline .. If your talking about the light E-MTBs there are others who are light like Orbea or Rotwild

@323johnnybravo

2 жыл бұрын

@@Vanadium lol does anyone follow the EEWS? Iv never seen any coverage. Um maybe because they are developing lightweight ebikes , and have been in the game for years, also the most innovative company in the game, and have the money for R&D. Transition just put this bike out because everyone else makes one and it shows.

@Vanadium

2 жыл бұрын

@@323johnnybravo to be fair I don't follow anything really close but I known dudes who ride the EEWS. Their Specs light e-bikes are light but like I said Orbea is there and then Rotwild with a fully fledged Enduro. Transition and many others are not important.

couldn't be any less clear lmao

26kg?

ala mel

Transition Bikes: "Please don't buy our ebikes. They are not that cool. We hated making this one but we had to."

Imagine ther day when batteries can last over 100 miles

So an e-bike made by people who didn't want to make one and don't ride them...haha

The company that's reluctant and late to Transition to eMtbs ... not confidence inspiring 😝

Doesn't seem too convincing

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Bleh

E-shit ;-)

Transition putting money over their own ideals. Your bikes are already constantly selling out, there was no need.

it's like they're reluctantly coming out of the closet ... coming terms to with their mtb sexuality ....

I didn’t know motorcycles where mtb’s now

Oww my eyes 🤢

I don't know, just another ebike, absolutely no innovation what so ever. Easy pass. It's like we'll I guess we need to release an ebike, let's do nothing to progress ebikes what so ever. And that stupid stem routing, lame. Wish brands other than Specialize and Orbea would actually do something.

@th_js

2 жыл бұрын

Check out the Pole Voima.

WASH THE DAMN BIKE BEFORE YOU PUT IT THE VIDEO ROOM.

the suspension setup is so satisfying to watch 🤤... oh an e-Bike... meh

Just dont call it a mountain bike.

I swear they said they’d never do an e-bike! Just stick to your guns and don’t make one get far more respect! The price of these things are ridiculous too IMO. Yeah you get people on here saying they are worth it etc but sorry 11k is laughable for a push bike

11k for a 50lb bike you don’t have to pedal uphill.

Since when can an e-bike take you places a regular bike can't? They belong in the city not on the trails.

@dft1

2 жыл бұрын

no, legal on tons of trails