If you liked this interview, you'll also enjoy these: Luana Maroja: kzread.info/dash/bejne/rJp9tLaqo5ebo7g.htmlsi=f5Fw1i1fusU4rubu Kathleen Stock: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dJyL29Fymby3fqg.htmlsi=qQEfXmO4k7S6ZJFx Kellie-Jay Keen: kzread.infoxjSNtbKoLOk?si=c3WzMgnFYJEwypWn

@MargotSolanas

8 ай бұрын

Nothing he says is trustworthy. David Hayton was on the panel that introduced mixed sex toilets in UK schools, they are deeply unpopular with students and parents alike. He has not tried to correct this.

@maxi.7011

8 ай бұрын

Time to stop describing trans as “women”. They are male trans..the word women belongs only to biological women.

@pdxnikki1

8 ай бұрын

Peter, would you consider having a conversation with Abigail Favale, author of Genesis of Gender? Bonus: she's here in Oregon 😉

@drumstruck751

4 ай бұрын

why can't we just say everyone has an agender [(a as in origin not "just" 0)] and there is complete theory through to transections into transgenderism "to the other end".

@33greenleaf

2 ай бұрын

Matt Walsh routinely talks to people who do not agree with him. Did you even see “What is a Woman?”, or his appearance on Dr. Phil, or all the times he’s been on college campuses, or when he was on Joe Rogan. The topic you want to discuss with him may simply not be interesting to him. Insulting him as an ideologue was beneath you.

A man who has had his penis and testicle removed is still stronger than a woman. Putting such males in prison would still present a problem to females in a prison ( they still would be stronger in general than females). Males would still have advantages in many sports.

@Susanmugen

8 ай бұрын

Solution: require trans kids to go through preferred puberty only. Only one puberty, no advantages besides the higher IQ thing

This is an example of how people who disagree about many things can talk about these disagreements in thoughtful manners. Great example for people.

@drpeterboghossian

8 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@jujutrini8412

8 ай бұрын

They agreed on practically everything. 😂

@jcraw6332

8 ай бұрын

@@drpeterboghossian Years ago I read some of works of Marshall Rosenberg and his approaches to nonviolent communication…and it seems that your approach may be similar and complimentary. Anyways, I think that’s very fine company!

AGP’s no to teaching kids. It makes them sexually aroused to be seen as a woman. Sorry, that means not focusing properly on teaching kids let alone anything else

@michmonty95

8 ай бұрын

What if you experience a sexual component in presenting as a woman in certain personal contexts but don’t bring it into the classroom?eg If you have long hair & implants but just wear something unisex and non distracting? It’s a completely different scenario than say wearing fetish gear or giant prosthetic breasts which is obviously inappropriate & distracting/confusing.Idk having an understanding & ability to teach physics is a valuable educational resource, I’d be more concerned about the skills of the teacher.

@theway5563

8 ай бұрын

Spot on comment. This teacher has a very sick and twisted fetish. They have a mental disorder & should not be around children. In essence, he becomes sexually aroused by children seeing hm as a female and calling him a female name.

@gisellemagraibhaigh8342

8 ай бұрын

Oh they're focused on the kids alright ...😡

@trevorcook3129

8 ай бұрын

@@gisellemagraibhaigh8342 once they allow consent for minors to transition sex then it’s over. Slippery slope as the Bible bashers said with homosexuality.

"I am attracted to my own body"- I thought it's called a paraphilia.

@TraceyHenderson-ys2iq

4 ай бұрын

I find this subject really intriguing. Debbie is great and it’s interesting hearing her different position and reasoning around her answers.

@adlernewman

4 ай бұрын

@@TraceyHenderson-ys2iq He is not great. He is a garden variety narcissistic pervert.

@Almostfallen

3 ай бұрын

It's called autogynephilia

@jacoblehrer4198

15 күн бұрын

She was correct in her explanation, but it's also called autogynephilia (a paraphilia), which is a relatively new term.

@adlernewman

15 күн бұрын

@@jacoblehrer4198 First of all, it is a "he". Secondly AGP has been known for ages- Blanchard was profiling these men as far as the 80s.

David Hayton was on the panel that introduced mixed sex toilets in UK schools, they are deeply unpopular with students and parents alike. He has not tried to correct this.

@tinahochstetler2189

8 ай бұрын

This comment should be pinned to the top of the page.

@thekaratekidpartii2169

8 ай бұрын

I don’t think this is true. Schools are required by law to have single sex toilets for all children over the age of 8. In fact, Hayton has criticised the fact that a significant minority of secondary schools (28%) were not maintaining single sex toilets.

@MargotSolanas

8 ай бұрын

@@thekaratekidpartii2169 it's well known and he's spoken about doing this. He's never retracted

@leont7956

8 ай бұрын

Debbie does not support those

@WooWoo-co4jf

5 ай бұрын

Karatekid, yes that's true, but it unfortunately stop some schools sort of sneaking them in & warning children and adults to not complain of they were bigots blah blah... Hayden has recently confessed to bring agp, sickening that colleagues and CHILDREN had starting roles in DHs ...I have lots of words I want to use but KZread or cult members wouldn't like. I used to teach full time & I can tell you teachers can be particularly stupid! Once there was a staff room conversation about tomatoes having an expired best before date, they were saying don't eat them you could get good poisoning, you could d**! I settled the conversation in my usual 'don't be bloody stupid' forthright manner. Lol Back to the toilets, head teachers can be particularly sneaky!

Conflating gender with personality again

@LV-wl7ch

4 ай бұрын

Gender is a nonsense word. Sex is the word for male and female.

The wolf smiles. David Hayton jokes about using women's spaces including the sleeping at a YWCA, wears his paraphilia to work as a teacher, has the children to call him 'Miss' and who was instrumental in bringing in measures to ensure boys could use girls' bathrooms at schools. Has "female"on his passport too. He's discussed how he gets se*ually excited to be called miss and "debbie" so you can judge how you feel about him using kids that way.

@janeharrington1757

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info. I feel sorry for Dave's wife.

@michaelstanwick9690

8 ай бұрын

@@janeharrington1757Do you mean "Debbie"? If so, here is an interview of Hayton's wife - admittedly from 4 years ago. kzread.info/dash/bejne/daCBtJajm6ytj9I.html

@amyskull7543

8 ай бұрын

@@janeharrington1757 theres a documentary about debbie hayton and his wife is on it. Hes still married or was as of the filming of the documentary. I couldnt get through it. Although I agree with *some* of debbie haytons thoughts on this matter, the look on his wifes face made me rethink how I felt about him. She looks absolutely destroyed and trapped. I dont know if thats the case it just seemed that way to me.

@fairislecat6413

8 ай бұрын

@@amyskull7543 The kids look totally embarrassed and traumatised too.

@amyskull7543

8 ай бұрын

@@fairislecat6413 I didnt get that far. I think that might break my heart.

53:14 More recently I've pointed out that children can't even agree to a cellphone contract. If you can't even agree to a data plan, how can you agree to lifelong medicalization?

Taxpayers should never be forced to fund procedures that cause guaranteed harm. And currently what has been funded to be done must be funded to be undone when 'transitioners' eventually come to regret the choices that were facilitated and 'detransition', as if anyone can 'transition' in reality.

@catiapb1

8 ай бұрын

^^ This we are making biological healthy people into chronic ill people.

@Susanmugen

8 ай бұрын

2% regret rate. Top regret cited of that 2% is "choice of surgeon"

@-Mitra-

8 ай бұрын

​@@Susanmugenlinks to several independent and unbiased studies on 2% regret rate, please?

@vir00

8 ай бұрын

​@@SusanmugenI welcome even bad studies on this matter just to chuckle at the online poll or ridiculously low sample size and window of time asked after the surgery.

@mouseutopiadystopia24601

8 ай бұрын

​@@Susanmugen Feminist "scholars" used to argue the false accusation rate was no more than 2%. They produced many many methodologically flawed "studies" to support their claim. Then, after years and years of far more robust studies showing the false accusation rate exceeding 10%, the feminists started claiming 2-10%, which of course is still wrong. Similarly, feminist Mary Koss (spelling?) produced a study claiming 1 in 4 women are r***d. Feminists spent decades flooding the market with methodologically flawed studies reinforcing the lie, while ignoring the more robust studies that contradict the claim. Now, many feminist "scholars" no longer claim the 1 in 4 statistic. Now again with the trannies. 2% regret comes from a set of ideologically biased and methodologically flawed "studies." More robust studies are at least an order of magnitude higher. In a few years when this hysteria passes, all the "gender scholars" will shift closer to, but still below, the actual number.

In terms of Aye-Gee-Pee...a lot of this stuff greatly overlaps with massochism. That's why there's an obsession with the self. It's about the performance of a role that makes one feel like a seggs object, and therefore seggs-zual. I've talked to thousands of them. It's also very exhibi-shun-ist. The act of being perceived.

@shadowshatto

8 ай бұрын

WHy did you censor yourself so much, that was harder to read lol

@ncorp2668

8 ай бұрын

@@shadowshatto God...i wish i didn't have to, but KZread censors basic language 😭

@mouseutopiadystopia24601

8 ай бұрын

Good on you to point out the masochistic element. That is the part that pisses me off the most. All these weak, tepid, milquetoast fence-sitters who ignore that indulging AGP hurts AGP because AGP are self destructive. They are morally posturing: "I'm against gender ideology, but unlike you bigots, ."

Would be interesting to see this done with Hayton's wife and kids.

Still a male. Being a women is not a concept and is not complicated.

Language is the weapon of the post-modernist. They happily admit this. So, don't use their language. No MALE should ever be called any kind of woman. That is intentionally designed to be confusing. A male who wishes to be perceived as a woman should be called a "male-trans." A female who likewise wishes to be consider a man should be called a "female-trans." It is accurate and not offensive. It also has the virtue of avoiding calamity such as when a female presented herself as a MAN to a medical clinic and complained about cramping. She suffered a miscarriage in the waiting room in part because nurses and doctors did not expect a MAN to be pregnant. The also avoids the idiocy of testing all males for a pregnancy which is what the British NIH decided in the aftermath of this case.

At the very least you need balance by talking to trans widows (women whonhave been married to these fetishists). Their stories will break your heart...if not you are not human.💔💔💔💔

@KindlyKalen

8 ай бұрын

You mean women who are married to you, who fetishize us?

@Dirtyvinyl23

8 ай бұрын

The trans widows are overshadowed by these selfish men who only think about themselves and their needs and wants. Why string the poor wife along by getting married in order to appear “respectable”? If you have a proclivity to dress in female attire, take cross-sexed hormones and undergo invasive surgery to remove male genitalia, then that is your business but don’t involve a wife and children as a cover for your fetish. I would love to hear from the women and children who have been used as pawns in this whole affair. Seldom do we ever hear of the pain, loss and heartbreak of the women and children that these men tend to leave behind because of the overwhelming urge to indulge in this behaviour. I don’t regard this as being “ stunning and brave” but pure self-interest and narcissism. Whenever you bring up this subject of autogynephilia, the trans activists are so quick to dismiss it, despite the men who claim it as being their identity like this Debbie bloke.

@silo5747

8 ай бұрын

Agreed!

Sex and gender are the SAME thing! You can't change either one.

@DrDeuteron

8 ай бұрын

no, gender is made up and doesn't matter. Let them have 57, and ignore them.

@heatherwillis5505

8 ай бұрын

Thank you. Nothing they say after "Sex and gender are different" is even close to being logically consistent.

@KindlyKalen

8 ай бұрын

Then why do we have different words for them?

@wjdeoliveira3809

8 ай бұрын

@@KindlyKalen Most languages do not.

@Surreal452

8 ай бұрын

@KindlyKalen Synonyms are like that.

He may be the best physics teacher. However I feel that if any individual either male or female has a sexual proclivity that bleeds out into all other aspects of life should not be teachers or in any position of authority with small children. This is what differentiates this from homosexuality. That just means you are same sex attracted. There are lots of scenarios where being gay or straight wouldnt matter. Autogynephila *does* need the public to participate in the fetish as well. I keep remembering what Kathleen Stock said about safeguards. For me I feel that in the real world these matters could be decided in a case by case basis. But as a safeguard i feel that it would be a good rule to have

@pinwheelart2825

8 ай бұрын

💯 he is forcing participation in his fetish. He loves all the attention.

@Crackpot_Astronaut

8 ай бұрын

But you'd never know Debbie was AGP if she hadn't said it in this very particular, adult conversation. So how would you determine who could or couldn't teach? Unless you just want to say that no trans people can be teachers, which is a little weird in my opinion. What do you think?

@user-jo2rk7iw5i

8 ай бұрын

@@Crackpot_Astronaut we can tell he's an AGP by the fact he's cross-dressing. Men wearing clothes designed for female bodies have a sexual fetish and people have always known that. The majority of people find it creepy and disturbing. I wouldn't put my child in a school that allows teachers to live their sexual fantasies in public.

@tinahochstetler2189

8 ай бұрын

@@Crackpot_Astronaut No trans teachers.

@tinahochstetler2189

8 ай бұрын

I'll go a step further actually and say no trans teachers or working with children in any way, and no trans working with vulnerable adults or adults in a vulnerable position. That would include nursing homes and healthcare. Obviously, no trans in mental health, because of their own mental health issues. No trans in public office. no trans in positions where sex matters. Such as positions that are meant to be held specifically by a woman or by a man because the position deals specifically with women or women's issues, or men or men's issues.

If you care about someone, you ask questions about any major decision they make, even as simple as a vacation. Why on earth would you not question them on permanently altering their body. Even as a friend, this would be irresponsible and disrespectful, but to suggest a doctor who's sworn an oath to do no harm shouldn't be questioning a patient asking them to inflict harm on them is just bats***.

@JayJay-wg5ex

8 ай бұрын

100 per cent, what if they are incredibly ill or mentally unstable at that moment in their life or under pressure by someone

@Susanmugen

8 ай бұрын

2% regret rate. Suicide rate drops to normal post-op

There were the rockers, then the punks, then the goths, then the emos, and the latest iteration of group identification is trans. In a decade or so it'll be something else.

@dimercamparini

8 ай бұрын

Totally agree...the only unique problem with this iteration of a "trend" is that all the other trends were not so disruptive and damaging of the bodies and minds of ppl...not even close compared to this one...

@pinwheelart2825

8 ай бұрын

Sadly, it will leave a lot of damage in its wake.😢

@Phoneybeetlemaniacxs

8 ай бұрын

You think trans is a trend? You aren’t serious

@abcdeshole

8 ай бұрын

@@Phoneybeetlemaniacxs are you old enough to have known youth subcultures before trans got big?

@baconsarny-geddon8298

8 ай бұрын

Yep. IMO it's most obvious in teen girls, whether they self-ID as "non-binary" or "trans guys". "Non binary" esp have a uniform of coloured hair, facial piercings, a kind of less shaggy version of the "scene kid" aesthetic of 10-15 years ago. And they definitely have their own slang/jargon- All the stuff they put in twitter bios, and identity labels. Kinda like the autistic arguments over punk or metal sub-genres.

Most people are not ‘non-bianry’ because ‘non-binary’ is an identity. Most of us don’t ‘identify as’ anything. Most of us just are what and who we are, without any need to identify as something else.

@bepitan

8 ай бұрын

exactly ... the more you go on about it the further you drift away from the very thing you wish to identify with.

@babysis6.059

8 ай бұрын

No one is "non binary", that's just something somebody somewhere made up

@GodSoLoved.Yeshua

8 ай бұрын

👏 Exactly

@DarkAngel2512

8 ай бұрын

We're *identified* as from a passive objective. We cannot identify from the assertive subjective.

@nickthepostpunk5766

8 ай бұрын

I suspect that’s missing the point: are identities things we actively think about and are always consciously aware of second by second? I am a biological male, and am aware I am male. I’m also white, and aware that I am white. I also have a particular job and am a father, and both of these form part of my identity. I could go on, but suffice it to say we all presumably have many identities whether we publicly declare them or not.

How on earth can a man attempt to live as a woman yet consider himself heterosexual? I think he's not being honest with himself, that's just utter confusion

@-Mitra-

8 ай бұрын

Selfishness in its extreme form, probably.

@babysis6.059

8 ай бұрын

@@-Mitra- I agree with you

Following the claim for detransition when Debbie mentioned how the public system responds to issues with private surgery i would love to have seen "the doctors who provide medical transition including surgery should be required to care for/pay for care for detransitions"

@ReverendDr.Thomas

8 ай бұрын

Do you use any of the following (somewhat euphemistic) terms? • gay • homophobia/homophobe • transphobia/transphobe • trans-sexual • transgender • cis gender • sex worker • capitalism/capitalist • any gender-specific pronoun other than he/she, him/her or his/her Then CONGRATULATIONS - you are (either knowingly or unwittingly) a silly shill for the loony left!

Mixed feelings about this one, it’s like preaching do as I say not as I do which never works. A man can’t identify as a woman like they can’t identify as a race they’re not. A man can wear women’s clothes but to take our names as well when a name is a signifier of a sex I feel is a step too far. An array of confused contradiction is all I see and this ultimately harms women.

@vagabond197979

8 ай бұрын

I agree. Dressing in womanface is offensive and hurtful toward women.

@gilly5094

8 ай бұрын

@Umbra555 It really is.

@joitus

8 ай бұрын

Hmm I’m kinda in the middle 🤔 If by “womanface” you mean they get treated as women when they are clearly not (ei: restrooms, locker rooms, sports, beauty competitions, modeling) then that definitely affects women negatively… If they are forthright about being a biological male, don’t try to encroach on women’s-only spaces, and wanna have lady clothes and a lady name, then go on ahead. We should encourage feminine males and masculine girls to be themselves, so that we can prevent them from falling victim to the ideology of transitioning- “you’re gender non-conforming, you have never liked ‘girl things’ so your soul must be longing to be something else.” We shouldn’t police respectful self expression. I don’t wanna fall to the level of people who cry “appropriation!” whenever a man uses make up, or a white person wears dreadlocks, or a black person wants to wear Asian-inspired clothing. Like do what you want but have respect for those around you 👐🏻 It should be pretty simple but the ideologues have made it very harmful and divisive.

@katiemiaana

8 ай бұрын

All I hear is confusion wear what you want but the minute you’re a Steve and ask everyone to call you Debbie and then start wearing women’s clothes which you say is largely autogyno so you sexually get off on it we’ve already significantly strayed beyond the everyday reality that most of us live in. We’ve already remodelled society based on the wishes of a fringe minority, how has that worked out? No one can outlaw clothing of any type men can wear what they want but it will have a self fulfilling effect because we are social animals and our clothes signify our membership to a sex which entitles differential access. You either as an adult protect safeguarding of minors or you don’t I hope Debbie goes to men’s toilets but many other Debbie’s don’t that’s a safeguarding minefield. If people want to dress feminine without all of the entitlement then fine but that was the 1980s we are way beyond that now they are running against women in races and attending lesbian meet ups. They’ve taken the piss.

Language corruption. Men aren’t women. Get over it.

This effort by some people to require others to perform a special service (abnormal use of pronouns for instance) for them without compensation is at an extreme view a form of enslavement. If they want to pay for this service I might tell them the price of this service ….if I’m in the right mood. I might also tell them my preferred pronoun is the numerical equivalent of the irrational number “e”. Then when they get tired we might have a conversation.

Would rather have watched an interview where you interview his wife. Why does anyone care what this man thinks? He violates women’s boundaries daily and he ruined his kids’ lives. Why does anyone platform him? 🙄 why does anyone care what he has to say anymore? Talk to trans widows Peter if you want to actually understand why this dude is wearing a skirt. BTW: I lasted 5 minutes..I just can’t with this guy.

@pinwheelart2825

8 ай бұрын

​@drpeterboghossian THIS! Though she may not agree. Find the trans windows. Give them a voice. They are a crucial part in the equation so their voices are greatly suppressed. Many are scared to speak out against their abusers.

@pinwheelart2825

8 ай бұрын

💯💯💯💯💯👍🏼

@pinwheelart2825

8 ай бұрын

I can't add tags so i guess i should assume my comments wont last. 🤦🏽‍♀️

@judeesee894

8 ай бұрын

@@pinwheelart2825 it’s amazing how enchanted these men are with these AGPs. He’s just a mentally ill man in a skirt who chose his obsession over his own children. I wonder if Peter has read any of “Debbie’s” work where he describes his disorder. He describes how embarrassed his son is. It’s tragic.

@varjaprotassova196

8 ай бұрын

Why does it have to be one or the other? That's a reasonable and likeable trans person, but I would like to hear from the wives of trans people as well. I'm a gay woman and unlike many women I know I'm not "flexible" in any way, so if my partner transitioned it would be a personal catastrophe for me and our family structure, so I do understand

Great conversation. I’m doubting he can still have orgasms after that surgery. It’s exceptionally rare.

@babysis6.059

8 ай бұрын

I don't believe it at all, and I dont think he was expecting that question

Yup. 100% the only question is ‘ is he dangerously unhinged, or just unhinged?’

I just read an opinion piece by Debbie in the Daily Mail, giving his broad view of trans issues in general and the story of his own 'transition journey'. What struck me was his description of himself as a "happily married father of four" pre transition and then as simply "Still married. Although we sleep in seperate beds." post transition. That's it. Marriage effectively over, for his pleasure it seems. Nothing else was mentioned about his family. A stark reflection of the minimal to zero consideration older AGP men afford to their wives and their children, when deciding to radically and permanently upend everyone's lives. I was supprised and disappointed to see Peter thinks it's fine for AGP men to work with children, and he didn't chose to ask any questions about the effects of transition on immediate family members. It makes me wonder how much he's really looked into agp. Could be wrong, but my impression is he hasn't looked into the subject of trans widows, at all. Depressing how universally ignored the exploitation and profound abuse wives and families of AGP men routinely suffer is.

@mouseutopiadystopia24601

8 ай бұрын

I commend Peter for many things, including his famous hoax. However, his kids are gay, so he's biased in favor of LGBTQ... even if he resists the most extreme elements of gender ideology. He, like Tim Pool and others, is weak, tepid, fence-sitting.

@varjaprotassova196

8 ай бұрын

For me other people's marriages are out of bounds unless there's abuse or other crimes. You don't know what's happening within that marriage, what if NOT talking about it is precisely what the wife wants? As a mother I also don't see the point of ostracising AGP men or preventing them from working with children. Victimless paraphilias seem like just a quirk to me, and also I just ASSUME that everyone has some strange sexual habits or thoughts, that's a given. What's even more disturbing, everyone has violent thoughts from time to time, even teachers.

@mouseutopiadystopia24601

8 ай бұрын

@@varjaprotassova196 You assume, but are not worried by, teachers having paraphilias that children participate in... However, you are worried that teachers sometimes have violent thoughts. Do you think teachers more commonly physically or psychosexually abuse children? Do you think AGP have the same, less, or more likelihood of being pedos? Apparently, your protective maternal instincts are failing. Seems like mothers are the ones allowing this social contagion to spread. If the wife doesn't want this discussed, then 1) clearly him being AGP hurts the wife and 2) he shouldn't have brought journalists into his family life.

Peter should be shown to school children as one example of a person worth striving to be.

Peter Boghossian should get his wife on without her dead husband being in the room.

@pinwheelart2825

8 ай бұрын

💯💯💯💯

@babysis6.059

8 ай бұрын

He's not dead, gravely confused, but very much alive

Peter Boghossian sets a wonderful example of natural, confident but humble curiosity and good faith humanity. Lovely guest and conversation.

Most girls already wear "gender non-conforming clothes." Dumb point, Peter.

Autogynephilia is a new word I learnt today. I can think of someone in my life it maybe relates too as well. Interesting.

@bepitan

8 ай бұрын

..the elephant in the room...it's huge.

@mouseutopiadystopia24601

8 ай бұрын

AGP is all or at least most male -> female trannies. However, this claim and all the supporting research has been suppressed for decades. Why? Because if most/all m->f trannies are dudes who are s**ually aroused by being called miss/ma'am, then politely indulging them is participating in their s**ual fetish. "Debbie" and Peter have no problem with AGP teaching kids in school, but most people aren't so comfortable with forcing children to participate in the fetish of grown men.

Oh Peter. You fell for the perverted AGP's reasonable line. D Hayton is a wolf in women's clothing. Respect is lost for me.

God, I'm old! I still don't get binary vs non-binary. When I hear those words, I hear math and computer code. Anyone else feel that way?

@radubradu

8 ай бұрын

It's not about being old, it's about the concepts being nonsensical. Math and code are based on logic. Gender ideology is based on magical thinking and word games.

@babysis6.059

8 ай бұрын

It's not you, non binary is nonsense, someone made it up, all humans are binary

@SydneyBristow0788

8 ай бұрын

When I hear "non-binary," I hear look at how special my personality is and how I use my personality to display stereotypes of gender. It doesn't mean anything at all. For all of the human experience men and women have had all sorts of different personalities and have expressed what was stereotypical of men and women to some varying degrees.

So some AGPs, also fancy women. Got it. They shouldn't be seen as women, nor a subset of women.

Insane conversation. The reprobate mind.

Debbie has one of those unique faces where it appears he has no teeth and yet he has teeth

I like to use the word 'personality' as apposed to gender. You can change/express your external presented personality without limits. ie I am presenting myself as a punk-rocker today and tomorrow I will present as a Hippy or cowboy etc. I think that is the crux of the confusion people are having with the established word meanings (and those who try and reclassify them). IMO gender and sex are the same thing, and one cannot fully 100% change into the opposite. But if a person presents themselves as a typical (M or F) external appearance, I will use the aligned term that I see in front of me by default or until otherwise corrected. If I see a cat out in the public, I won't call it a turtle...

@KYLETEACHESBASSYT

8 ай бұрын

Well said. We have adjectives for a reason. Words like masculine and feminine have clear meaning. Phrases like "male gender" and "female gender" have no clear meaning.

@theway5563

8 ай бұрын

@@KYLETEACHESBASSYT - You clearly did not read the comment very well. Sex and gender are only male and female; therefore, synonymous. Personality is a very separate thing. One can be a feminine behaving male, and one can be a masculine behaving female.

@KYLETEACHESBASSYT

8 ай бұрын

@@theway5563 I responded to a part of the comment. I read the comment pretty carefully. What I'm saying has nothing to do with the definition of gender as a synonym for sex. It has to do with the confusing use of the word gender as "typified masculine and feminine behavior." I'm not quite sure where our lines are crossing.

The validation going on here is sickening.

Peter these SE game videos are AN HOUR LONG - most of us are LISTENING not watching them. *YOU HAVE TO ANNOUNCE TO THE AUDIENCE WHERE EACH OF YOU ARE STANDING when you move along the scale or we have no idea where people are at*

@clydedsouzaauthor

8 ай бұрын

Same visually

@seaofflowers.

8 ай бұрын

MAKING A REQUEST IN ALL CAPS DOESN'T COME OFF AS YOU'RE LIKELY INTENDING IT TO. Just looks like you're trying to teach a child simple statements.

@pamelaroyce5285

8 ай бұрын

That’s a very good point. The host should develop the habit of stating “I’m standing on [______] and you’re standing on [______].” There are many, many people who are blind or substantially visually impaired.

@Muonium1

8 ай бұрын

@@seaofflowers. cope and seethe.

46:10 Disagree. Possibly strongly disagree. Many grown adults have been caught up in the transition craze and been harmed by it, and then detransitioned. They self-diagnosed and self-treated some other issue - OCD, internalized homophobia, autism, etc - and were transitioned no questions asked. A therapist needs to be involved not to embed ideology, but to probe more objectively. Self-diagnosis and self-ID are the same thing. Anyone diagnosing themselves is an unreliable doctor.

Peter Boghossian, I absolutely love your content. I thought I'd provide some constructive criticism. I do not think this format of doing street epistemology 1v1 indoors is working very well. I think you explore these topics better 1v1 via interview. I think the street epistemology is more compelling when a third party is mediating the game, and when more people are involved.

@ricardolambo3743

8 ай бұрын

I have to agree with @hunterseufert8066. I feel that we get a passable interview despite (and not because of) the street epistemology. How is this an improvement over two adults sitting down and talking? What exactly does shuffling around as if they're playing musical chairs add?

@JoshWiniberg

8 ай бұрын

​@@ricardolambo3743yes I feel like something is missing here because they aren't doing the key part of trying to change each other's mind, which is what makes other SE videos I've seen more exciting. The discussion in this video actually feels hampered by the format because they aren't really going deeply into each question and idea. Still interesting to hear their ideas but I think a straight discussion might have been more fulfilling.

This has been one of the most compelling conversations I’ve ever seen. I’m glued to watching . Thanks to Debbie and Peter for great insight on both views. I also liked they agreed on many things.

I appreciate Debbie's honesty.

@Enhancedlies

8 ай бұрын

it is so rare, like a breath of fresh air

@agaace

8 ай бұрын

He's not honest at all. He's manipulative & abusive towards his family. Dig deeper & he will reveal his true colors. A wolf in sheep's skin. The appearance of a "nice, honest guy" is part of his game, the modus operandi of abusive men like him.

@radubradu

8 ай бұрын

you also have to questions his motives for admitting to some of the truth

@dragonfire4244

8 ай бұрын

@@radubradu And what do you think his motivations are? I don’t think a person with AGP should necessarily be demonised. My question has always been around if a person has the rationality & awareness to come to a reasonable solution for both sides. The dangerous men are those who won’t acknowledge that they are men and therefore will not accept women’s boundaries. Debbie admits he’s a man with a mental condition & doesn’t use women’s safe spaces from what I understand. Interested to hear what you think.

I think all public schools should have pants/shorts uniforms. It saves a lot of arguments, and probably saves a bit of money trying not to look poor at school. The HH sweatshirt you got your kid for christmas will last longer. I thought this as a kid, and now even more as a parent.

@TennisBarbie119

8 ай бұрын

Agreed, but a lot of people will argue that the school uniforms are expensive. A female child, for instance, would need 5 white shirts @ 15 bucks each, 3-5 skirts or dresses @ 30 bucks each, about 3-5 cardigans @ 20 bucks each. $325 every year at least since kids grow. A lot of people would argue that even this amount of money is not feasible and that their kids should just wear what they have.

@LaOwlett

8 ай бұрын

@@TennisBarbie119 They don't need to be fancy harry potter uniforms, and the uniforms don't have to be purchased by the parents. The parents could pay a small fee that would go towards the replacement of clothing, and parents would exchange them once they don't fit. As a seamstress I can tell you right now, a pair of basic, pocketless black or navy elastic waist pants/shorts is cheaper than a pair of jeans/khakis. Pair this up with a school jacket and any white shirt, and maybe a scarf or tie in the school's colors.

@JoshWiniberg

8 ай бұрын

Talking as a UK parent out a primary aged child, uniforms are no more expensive than any other clothes. Probably cheaper, than average, actually. I reckon we save money by having a uniform here. But I'm not sure if that's the same as you get into high school age.

AGP, i feel so sorry for the wives of these men

"So you're never without a date on the weekend." 😂😂

@drpeterboghossian

8 ай бұрын

Glad you got my joke!

@theinnerlight8016

8 ай бұрын

@@drpeterboghossian We got a similar kind of humor 😉 More important: love for Star Trek 🖖

I'll skip this one.

@HelloTygr

4 ай бұрын

If you skipped because you were triggered by the title, grow up and join us in reality. If you skipped because it’s a trans person, give it a chance; I skipped it when uploaded at first as well because as a Christian man it was difficult for me to take Debbie seriously because he’s trans. I’m glad I gave the video another chance. Debbie is aware that he is a man, affirms that he is male, and knows that what he has done is strange and not ‘right’, and explains the reasoning for his transition in the video. It’s quite fascinating really, and worth the watch.

@helenablavatsky9136

4 ай бұрын

@@HelloTygr He admits he's a man and people still call him "she."

I love these so much and play along at home. Here's where I get stuck. What is meant by 'should be/not be allowed'? I hear this used frequently and I don't know if it means would you make a law against the behaviour or something else. For example, I wouldn't want to see a law against men dressing as women but I strongly support people/places/organizations setting their own standards of what is allowable to them. A man can be free to put on a dress but a female lingerie store owner does not have to let him try on lingerie in her store.

@mouseutopiadystopia24601

8 ай бұрын

Yes, this is a problem that any socially conservative libertarian constantly faces. Should a man wear a dress? No. Can a man wear a dress in my private business? No. Should government jail a man for wearing a dress? No. Should government jail a man for twerking in a miniskirt at an "all ages" drag show? Maybe.

This was great. Enjoyed the conversation

I'm surprised (and disappointed) that Peter would go to a female prison if given a choice. Does he not realise women would feel threatened by a biological male in their midst?

@radubradu

8 ай бұрын

I guess he thinks himself morally superior to other men, and that he would never hurt a woman. A lot of trans people make this claim. Which is nice and all, and could even be true, but it's not how safeguarding works.

@paper4501

8 ай бұрын

I don't know what the answer is, really, when it comes to the prison thing, but when someone has transitioned to the point of having bottom surgery, I don't think that's the same thing as these obviously not trans men who simply claim to be trans to go to a woman's prison... 🤷

@Phil1982

8 ай бұрын

I think this part was a misunderstanding. If you take that question from another perspective, I.e. of your own personal safety, then Peters answer was fair. It's a hypothetical situation and a standalone question. It's a fact that women's prisons (at least in the Uk) are far less dangerous than men's.

@CathyKitson

8 ай бұрын

@@Phil1982 I realise that from his point of view, it would be preferable, and therefore that's why he answered the way he did. But the transperson was actually less selfish and more thoughtful because she was thinking of everyone else and not herself.

@CathyKitson

8 ай бұрын

@@radubradu I'm sure he wouldn't hurt a woman. At least I hope he wouldn't. But as you say, it's not how it works.

Peter needs to get a graphic so we can see on screen who is standing on what

@drpeterboghossian

8 ай бұрын

We can do that, but all of this is made possible by donors. We’d need donations to make that happen.

It's so crazy when I was younger and learned about gender and sex.... The true defintions. I don't even remember the original definitions now! How sad :(

@baconsarny-geddon8298

8 ай бұрын

Sex is just defined by gametes ("born with most/all organs to produce large gametes/eggs= female. Small, mobile gametes= male"). But there IS NO "true definition" of "gender". It's a 100% subjective, non-scientific term, which has NEVER had evidence-based criteria. (IMO sex-independent "gender" is a religious concept, comparable to "the soul", "chakras", "chi energy", etc- All evidence-free concepts, which believers assume we all have, and which are taken to define "your TRUE self", in some spooky, pseudo-spirtual sense)

Debbie is spot on about the pronouns.

The comments section has revealed that this man is rather a hypocrite. What he's saying and what he does, or at least did, do not match.

The way Peter just dives in balls deep to such sensitive topics is impressive - coming across the pond to our shores and suggesting there isn't a right way to make Tea - that's brave, bordering on insensitive and yet here he is - the brass neck on this fellow - brilliant!

Strongly agree on transsexual vs. transgender. Personality is not gender. It's just personality. They are conflating.

"that's a commitment" That's one way of putting it...

Peter - you are not informed on the circumcision issue, in terms of comparing FGM and MGM. Please check out the work of Brian Earp.

I vote NO on personal pronoun usage. I will NEVER. It is very basic. I / You / We - He / She / It

Surgery....the NHS avoids carrying out hysterectomies. Big surgery, lots of risk. So many women who need a hysterectomy go private rather than have to go through the merry go round of ineffective treatments. When people need surgery to due massive physical pain that is debilitating their existence and making them suicidal, what exactly is covered under the NHS?

This street epistemolgy style should be done in schools for sure.

I'm reading gender theory now from Catholic perspective so I greatly appreciate this. Debbie is an awesome human being!

@mouseutopiadystopia24601

8 ай бұрын

So from a Catholic perspective, you think a person is awesome who supports autogynophiliacs teaching children (i.e. men who are aroused by being called "miss" forcing a classroom of children to call him "miss")? Is it awesome for a father to destroy his family, wife, and children? Are you the type of Catholic who thinks Pope Francis is a good Catholic?

@elenawilliams32

5 ай бұрын

Ask their kids and wife if they think Debbie is an awesome person? Would you want your children to be taught by a AGP who gets aroused by your child them calling them 'Miss'?

Thanks for all the great content to Peter and team! Been watching all your uploads EDIT thanks to Debbie for being a great guest too!

Usually when we think hear the preferred pronouns question people tend to think the classic he/him she/her. Maybe asking about they/them and neo pronouns could spice it up. Gender isn't purely a social construct. For years sex and gender have been used synonymously (in my language it even uses the same word for female and woman (or male and man)). How you present yourself definitely has a influence. For me there are 2 sexes, the anomalies known as intersex are also divided into male and female, they aren't both or a more mixed chromosomal state. For genders I'd say 2 (man and woman) at most 4 (adding transsexuals as another gender). Everything else, for me doesn't have a basis on which we can measure that gender, as the nonbinary, genderfluids etc. all keep describing themselves on feelings and emotions (that's why I'd somewhat agree on trans being another gender as it ties to biology) I have nothing against gays, lesbians, trans , Muslim, Black or any other people teaching children as long as they teach what they are supposed to. Math teachers math. Language teachers actual language, like classic literature and not just the words and literature that cater and promote the LGBT world. Sure you can sprinkle some history facts about LGBT, like the movements in the 70s to get their first wave of right. What I want to say the teaching material and teachers need to take up a mostly neutral stance and not (consistently) bring up the political or worlds views. Social transitioning children is just wrong. Clothes don't have a gender, but there was that Adam Sandler movie where he let his kid wear anything he wants to school. At one point the kid wanted to go in full swimming gear snorkel, life-ring. There is a place and time for each type of clothing. You can call me a traditionalist but there is just something right with boys wearing boy clothes and the same for girls, you could call it order. Meanwhile using preferred pronouns, using a different name, letting use unisex or opposite sex toilets, maybe even giving puberty blockers is just a no go. Mostly they don't understand the scope and effect that has on them, as it can spiral them deeper into assuming them being the opposite sex. Nonbinary from the definitions online says that you either DON'T feel like either man or woman or that you feel like BOTH. So from a mathematical statement it would encompass the whole space. But it having contradicting definitions it negates itself. Therefore it can't exist. Man and woman have such a wide range of personalities each, there is some overlap, like being more tomboyish or effeminate, but that doesn't make you less of a man or woman. It doesn't change you to be non-binary. Debbie seems to be looking it from the starting point of being human and mixes both man and woman into, while I first separate by sex and then personality traits. Good on giving the in sound mind transsexuals (as much as they can be, it is still a psychological disorder) exposure. Really helps to show they aren't all completely nuts.

@ReverendDr.Thomas

8 ай бұрын

sex: gender; the BINARY state of being either male or female in most species of metazoans. In humans, each cell nucleus contains 23 pairs of chromosomes, a total of 46 chromosomes. The first 22 pairs are called autosomes. Autosomes are homologous chromosomes, that is, chromosomes that contain the same genes (regions of DNA) in the same order along their chromosomal arms. The 23rd pair of chromosomes are called allosomes (sex chromosomes). These allosomes consist of two X chromosomes in most all females, and an X chromosome and a Y chromosome in most all males. Females, therefore, have 23 homologous chromosome pairs, whereas males have 22. The X and Y chromosomes have small regions of homology called pseudoautosomal regions. The X chromosome is always present as the 23rd chromosome in the ovum, while either an X or Y chromosome may be present in an individual spermatozoon cell gamete. Rare chromosomal anomalies include X (Turner syndrome); XXY (Klinefelter syndrome); XYY; and XXX. In such cases, the sex of the human is still either male or female, because one’s sex/gender is determined primarily by the gametes produced (see below). An extremely minute percentage of humans are either (anatomical) hermaphrodites or of indeterminate sex (or to be more accurate, disordered sex). That does not negate the incontrovertible FACT that there are but two sexes/genders. In order for reproduction to take place, there is the requirement of a female ovum and a male sperm to unite, and because the entire purpose of the gender/sex dichotomy of most species of animals is to enable procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the individual in question. There is no third gamete. Cf. “gender”. Both terms (“gender” and “sex”) originate from Latin words: “genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). If the reader is curious to know the reason for this term being included in the glossary of “F.I.S.H” (apart from the fact that it is actually used in a handful of chapters), it is because, in recent times, LEFTISTS have been desperately trying to change the meaning of the words “sex” and “gender”, in order to serve their immensely-nefarious agenda to destroy civil society with their hateful, wicked, immoral ideologies, especially by promoting the nonsensical idea that a person is able to transition from one gender to the other. ♂️♀️♂️♀️♂️♀️♂️♀️♂️♀️♂️♀️ gender: sex; the BINARY state of being either male or female, and because the entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete. Therefore, even if a human being possessed a male reproductive system (or, at a minimum, produced spermatazoa, despite not having a complete reproductive system [in other words, a man without a distinguishable penis]), yet was superlatively feminine in every other possible way, he would be required to mate with a biological female in order to reproduce (and, as explained in Chapter 27, marriage is a societal obligation for the vast majority of humans). An extremely minute percentage of humans are either “intersex” (typically referring to those persons who are anatomical hermaphrodites) or of indeterminate gender (that is, not easily determined by a cursory inspection of the external genitalia), but that does not negate the incontrovertible scientific fact that every human belongs to one of only two genders. As far as we know, there has never existed a single human being with the ability to BOTH conceive a child in “his/her” womb and, simultaneously, successfully inseminate a woman (or in more disturbing terms, for a hermaphrodite to inseminate ‘him/herself’). And even if such an individual has existed, that person would be a combination of BOTH male and female, and not some imaginary, novel third gender. In those rare cases in which a human is born without gonads, the other characteristics of sex/gender would be taken into consideration - firstly, the allosomes (sex chromosomes) found in the DNA of every cell, and then, any extant genitalia, since even those females who have experienced the misfortune of being born without ovaries, for instance, usually have their remaining sex organs intact). Cf. “sex”. Both terms (“gender” and “sex”) originate from Latin words: “genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). So, essentially, the only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from “genus”, such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”. The mere fact that the word “genitals” (referring to reproductive organs) is very closely related to the Latin “genus” is further evidence of the assertion that the term “gender” refers to the binary division of human (and of course, many non-human) sexual identity, and NOT to any taxonomy based on emotion, feelings, psychology, or any other non-biological categorization schema. If the reader is curious to know why this term is included in the glossary of “F.I.S.H” (apart from the fact that it is actually used in a handful of chapters), it is because leftists have been desperately trying to change the meaning of the word of late, in order to serve their immensely-perverse agenda to destroy civil society with their hateful, wicked, sinful, OBJECTIVELY-IMMORAL doctrines. Until relatively recently, the word “gender” has ALWAYS been used in the etymologically-accurate sense of the term. And even in the former case (where the word has been used to denote something other than the sexual binary taxonomy), predominantly in those places where leftist ideologues comprise a significant portion of the population - mainly Anglophone countries at present, although by the time you are reading this document, probably every nation on earth, with the exception of Islamic lands. See also “leftism”. Ultimately, the term “gender” is not absolutely synonymous with the word “sex” (otherwise, why would progenitors of the Latin tongue have coined two distinct words for two slightly divergent concepts), but it most definitely does not refer to the notion or notions invented by leftists (those who adhere to adharma), especially the idea that “sex” refers to a binary division of human biology and/or anatomy, whereas “gender” refers to how one identifies according to societal norms in regard to sexual roles. For example, most all leftist ideologues define “woman” as “someone who identifies as a woman”, which is a wholly circular definition. Those of us who stand for dharma (righteousness) must push-back with all our might against the adulteration of the language. If you are truly wise and intelligent, you would surely have recognized several amazing secrets contained within the body of this treatise, “A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity”. However, perhaps the most secretive secret of all, shall forthwith be revealed: It is IMPOSSIBLE for a human being to change his or her sex/gender! (You are implored to keep this secret - do not tell a soul!!!) For example, a man who castrates himself and wears a skirt or a dress, is simply a mutilated, transvestinal male - not a woman, nor is he a female. Similarly, a woman who attaches an appendage resembling a phallus to her crotch and dons a pair of pantaloons, is merely a transvestinal woman with a fake penis between her thighs, and not a man, nor a male, in any accurate sense of the terms. Actually, I would contend that any “man” who excises his reproductive organs was always a dickless “man”, metaphorically speaking. N.B. Even though the glossary entries “gender” and “sex” are worded somewhat differently, they could easily have EITHER been interchangeable, or else worded identically, since, in practice, they possess the same meaning. Even when the term “gender” (or any non-English cognate of the word) is used in grammar, it indicates whether a particular noun or pronoun is masculine, feminine or neuter, although most nouns in the English language do not have a gender (neuters).

@babysis6.059

8 ай бұрын

I keep it simple and keep it real, gender does not apply to humans, only language, as humans we have male and female, that's it and that's all

Thank you for this fascinating conversation!

@drpeterboghossian

8 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Great example of a conversation away from the extreme forced ideology

44:06 😂 “IN TACT AND READY TO GO”

re. "transexual" and "transgender"...if we all agree we are talking about two very different states of being, why not use both?

Someone said when I talk to trans people I don't use pronouns - I will do you one better - I don't talk to them. They made it this way. I'm not walking on eggshells, I won't be bullied, I won't play make-believe with a hostile adult.

I wish everyone realized that this pronoun thing is unsustainable. Assuming that gender now means personality, and that everyone has their own unique personality, it would mean that there are 7 billion genders. And if there are pronouns for each gender, there would be 7 billion pronouns, which would make the use of language absolutely impossible. Also, each person having their own name AND pronouns, would defeat the entire purpose of pronouns, which is to replace names. It would make way more sense for people to be fighting for one universal pronoun regardless of sex/gender, rather than fighting for more and more pronouns.

Great conversation

Great format! It's interesting to see what the folks at home are thinking with the poll questions!

People can wear whatever clothes they like. Look at male and female dress in historical paintings. But it usually involved a fixed dress code or fashion at a particular time. Gender is how you communicate yourself in relation to others in order to attract and maintain the sexual relationships you want. So you are dressing and behaving in a certain way to signal the kind of partner you want and the level of commitment you want. A sex worker would use appearance and behaviour to signal that they are only interested in a short term commercial interaction. A punk girl would use these to indicate rebellion against authority figures or stereotypes. However these are learned behaviours . Rebellious behaviours are usually fads. To that extent gender is a social construct, but it has a purpose to communicate with others that you hold a particular set of values or ideologies and expect others to respond to your choices in very limited ways. The limited ways of responding are also learned. They exist to moderate behaviour. The idea of limiting responses is to reduce shame, protect from rape, and avoid conversations in front of children or people who would be offended. It would differ in other cultures. Does everyone know what a drag queen is trying to communicate? The problem is that trans people are sending confused messages to which the acceptable responses are being invented on the spot. Trans people go into a rage if they are misgendered. The other person has to hide their irritation that the usual sexual signals are not being communicated. So who is forced to back down? The reaction of the trans person is very aggressive and irrational behaviour towards others, that demonstrates their narcissism and refusal to respect others. A Trans person becomes an unlikeable person. I agree that autogynephiles use dress and behaviour to satisfy a compulsion to create the ideal body for self attraction. What happens when they grow old?

@-Mitra-

8 ай бұрын

They are autogerontophilled, probably 😂

@mhusa2911

8 ай бұрын

the same thing that happens to women when they get old.

@-Mitra-

8 ай бұрын

@@mhusa2911 your generalization is utterly sick. You are a man rejected by many women, aren't you?

@mhusa2911

8 ай бұрын

im not sure why you think it's sick. what im suggesting is that most older people are not nearly as attractive as when they were in their youth. that's a biological reality. im married for 20 years with 3 children. seems silly to guess properties about my social life based on a stated and empirically obvious fact that older people are less attractive than when they were in their youth and many struggle with that fact as evidenced by the multi billion dollar cosmetics industry and the multi billion dollar plastic surgery industry.

@-Mitra-

8 ай бұрын

@@mhusa2911 once again: your generalization is sick. And it is not a problem of the whole humankind that your family/relatives are not attractive and handsome, this get somewhat unpleasant looks with age. You didn't respond to my question: are you a man?

Love you Debbie , you are telling the truth ❤

Getting ads for Lady Ballers 🤣

Disappointed in Debbie Hayton's understanding of the sex binary, he is quite clearly conflating sex and presentation/gender.

Good work sound guy....

Doesn’t believe in aliens but believes in himself.

Am I the only one that loves Peter Bogosian, but absolutely hates Street epistemology?😂

This is fascinating because of the deep thought and well explained positions. The subject is rather interesting but the ability for you two to speak and defend your positions in an intelligent manner is refreshing. Thank you both!

Thank you for this episode. I’ve been reminded that i do not care about how someone wants to look, just don’t expect me to use incorrect language or social norms.

Who participates in the live poll? Paying subs?

@15:90 so Debbie is an AGP then. Hmm. So Im wondering if thats the case for many transexual men (biological) then

Started off well but DH said he didn't know what the word gender meant but went on to use when discussing if sex is binary - saying there were multiple genders.

20:00 I’m a gay dude, and I can kind of see the concerns some people have about gay or trans people teaching kids at school. But I worry that “LGB or T” has now been conflated with teaching specific and sexual ideologies to kids…on either side. Parents express concern about the subject matter being taught to kids and some in the LGBT world lose their minds…their parents are bigots!!! Whereas it may not be WHO is doing the teaching, but rather the subject matter. If I were teaching and had a male partner, I’d imagine keeping my personal life rather private. Or at least develop understanding relationships with the parents. Of course I don’t know all the stresses of teaching.

53:15 Also, this "age of majority" is a best-guess. Which is why I'm against adults transitioning no questions asked. A kid on their 18th birthday isn't wiser or smarter than they were at 17 yrs 364 days old. It's an artifical barrier in many ways, but something needs to be there. But for that reason, we should be careful about adults being able to transition no questions asked. You're still laregly psychologically immature until about 25, for example.

Lol. He prefaces the question asking age, but let's rip with deeply personal questions about sexual function and degree of transition.

Really enjoying these epistemology videos with some light hearted questions thrown in

@drpeterboghossian

8 ай бұрын

There’s a lot more to come!

Im literally getting queazy from this conversation. But it’s needed. You don’t hear these details very often.

I think there needs to be more research into Debbie's claim. Debbie might be right, maybe the majority of mtf transsexuals are autogynephiles, but we don't currently know. My own belief is that the majority of mtf transsexuals are NOT autogynephiles, while some are - but I'm open to changing my mind with more empirical evidence. The ones who are and don't realise it/are in denial about it are potentially problematic; some of them will become unhappy and need to detransition; some can end up behaving in predatory ways. 😕

@KindlyKalen

8 ай бұрын

I swear if you say transsexuals one more time-

@Thatssomebadhatharry1

8 ай бұрын

@@KindlyKalenTRANSEXUALS

@KindlyKalen

8 ай бұрын

@@Thatssomebadhatharry1 CONSESTITES!

@Thatssomebadhatharry1

8 ай бұрын

@@KindlyKalen your flag was made by a dodgy male abuser

@pamelaroyce5285

8 ай бұрын

I also question the claim that Debbie can have an orgasm. There might be some sensation left in the tissue that was used to make the fauxgina but being able to feel some…thing… is not the same thing as an orgasm. I believe I have heard both Scott Newgent (FTM) and Buck Angel (MTF) state that the ability to have an orgasm is lost entirely. EDIT: thanks to all who caught my brain burp: Buck Angel is also FTM.

Chromosomes don’t lie but some individuals do

This was interesting, but as Boghossian doesn't know enough about Hayton, he wasn't able to ask really pertinent questions. I would like Hayton to have been asked: 'Knowing about the impact that your transition has had on your family, would you still have gone ahead and transitioned?' I've read a lot of stuff Hayton has written, and I think I read somewhere that he thought he wouldn't have. The impact on his wife and kids was devastating. The other thing I would have liked to have seen some more digging around is Autogynephilia and teaching. Transvestic Autogynephilia is a paraphilia, and we see Hayton touch on it here, and some could argue that teachers having their paraphilia on display whilst teaching shouldn't be allowed... we need more info from research with autogynephiles about this which is good it is now coming out in the open rather than hidden from discourse. The issue with paraphilia is that if you have one paraphilia than you are likely to have others- perhaps given that Hayton no longer has his penis makes that less of a threat - but other transvestic autogynephiles with male levels of testosterone? Hmmm...I am not convinced, and as someone who comes from a primary teaching background, I would not be willing for schools to take chances.

Peter on Harry 😂😂 “I don’t like the guy”.

Ok. Points: transsexuality is a form of sexual expression, and is existent along both heterosexual and homosexual men, mostly with autogynophilic dispositions. A smaller component are body dysphoric. And then, there’s the epistemological component of queer praxis, as an ascetic component of one of intersectionality’s sectarian components (gender social theory). People in this camp conflate masculine and feminine archetypes for immutable morphology. They may or may not identify with the aforementioned sexual expressions because sexual expression isn’t the project; it’s ideological conformity. Social constructivism is a religious supposition with a lot of predicate axioms that are reasonable to argue as absurd in first principles if you’ve critically studied the schools of thought behind this. “Gender,” as a colloquialism, has been used for a myriad reasons across the political spectrum. It was ideologically weaponized on Tumblr in the early 2010s as the totality of gender ideology was amalgamated. There are distinctions between transsexuals and transgenderism. I was neck deep in the nu-atheist/nu-apologetic movement and watching this all develop in the last decade has been wild. I wish that I was around during the transient ideologies that burst to life and burned out during the 19th and 20th centuries, even if they were half as uncanny.

Peter, while in the UK please do an interview with Gurwinder Bhogal (on substack: the Prism) about anything, but especially about TikTok. His piece on the subject is mind boggling.

Why would Peter strongly agree on the gender issue? Being politically correct?

Matt Walsh routinely talks to people who do not agree with him. Did you even see “What is a Woman?”, or his appearance on Dr. Phil, or all the times he’s been on college campuses, or when he was on Joe Rogan. The topic you want to discuss with him may simply not be interesting to him. Insulting him as an ideologue was beneath you.