The fact that trans panic defense isn't an immediate hate crime is appalling.

@maryfreebed9886

Ай бұрын

Not only that, it also suggests that the 'panicker' has all the self-control of a rampaging pit bull, since they are apparently prone to entering a berserker rage for the most trivial shadow of a reason, and that they should not be allowed to run around unsupervised for the safety of the general public.

Would a "religious panic" or "political panic" defense fly in court? "Your Honor, when I realized that the person I'd had sex with voted for Trump, the shame and disgust temporarily and uncontrollably INSAAAAAAAAANE!"

@PansyPops

Ай бұрын

“Your honour, I’m innocent. I didn’t know he was Jewish until _after_ he got undressed. That means I’m innocent!”

@cherryfroggo

Ай бұрын

I would use this defense but I'd never be caught naked with a Maga. The shame that would bring? I wouldn't bear to live anymore

@qa377

Ай бұрын

Right? Like "I was talking to this person, and they said something that caused me to panic, so my response was as to stab them - but I was panicking so it's fine, right?"

Before i ever realized I was trans i used to always cross dress on Halloween (that or dress as the Mad Hatter). When I was 21 I got all dolled up and looked really good. My friend was a professional and did an amazing job. I felt amazing, this led to me doing it more and more often and lead me to my true self. Side bar to the story I got in multiple altercations over that following year, Including a fight that very Halloween over a drink bought for me. This culminated in several men getting so mad they were planning to kill me behind the bar on my 22nd birthday. Lucky a bouncer heard and literally got me out of there. These were all men that over the previous months had bought me drinks or danced with me only to "Panic" over who I actually was. It is bonkers to me that people can have so much hate when we just want to live true and free and happy like everyone else. Life will always be a dumpster fire but we deserve to be dressed how we want around that fire. To Feel Whole.

Trans panic defense should result in a longer sentence since it is admission of it being a hate crime

@Jiihariial

Ай бұрын

+

@dinosaysrawr

Ай бұрын

Right?

@justanidiotmk2749

Ай бұрын

Hope thats out in the new patch notes for state laws, hopefully it slips by without lawyers finding out.

@CorwinFound

Ай бұрын

100.

@StonerBaer

Ай бұрын

ABSO-FUCKING-LUTELY.

Rest in Power & Peace, Savannah🫶🏳️‍⚧️🥀. Thank you for your thorough & empathetic coverage on this heartbreaking issue, Luxander.

I think it was Churchhill who said something along the line of, "America, after exhausting all other possible avenues, will always do the right thing." Add money to the mix and getting to the right thing nearly disappears into the distance, never to be seen. Much love to all in the USA.❤

Thank you Luxander!!!! I deeply appreciate that you covered this story. Savannah deserved so much better, she was fierce, I wish I got to know her better. Our community in Minnesota has gone through tragedy and trauma seeing the ban on the *"Gay and Trans Panic" defense be passed. It pains us all deeply knowing Savannah's murderer was allowed to set the narrative with their defense, that this bill was not passed soon enough to prevent his defense case (The trans panic defense gives the power to the perpetrator and puts the victim on defense - any of us can be called a sex worker or predator after being murdered in hopes of a sympathetic jury. Savannah was robbed of her story) A week after Savannah's murder, news stations had doxxed our trans support community and host. We had to cancel our candlelight vigils and have security at our meetings due to threats (from mostly out of state). In the months to come showing up at the capitol for rallies and hearings. Supporting our sisters who took lead in pushing this legislation through. Having to endure the Republican discourse arguing against our rights and protections all the while calling us "men" and accusing us of being predators. A lot of trauma and courage went into this small victory, and it doesn't even make us safer. I really wish more people would cover this and talk about these discussions, promote the importance of our in-person communities. This is a part of a larger more uncomfortable conversation that deeply affects queer folk of the most marginalized communities. Our communities are stronger together and there is beauty in numbers! Thank you so much Lux!!!! This has been a wildly difficult time. This tragedy has brought our community together in beautiful ways and I wish Savannah could see it. I have too many emotions going on, probably typed too much. Thank you, thank you, thank you! **Can't forget this bill covers for all panic related defenses based on sexual orientation and identity.

@Shakes_Bear

Ай бұрын

Thank you again for listening, sometimes it feels like we keep screaming into the void wanting people to see our struggles, our joys, and empathize with us.

@carlgrace8761

Ай бұрын

I wish you and your community the best of times. Sounds like you gals went through some hell. RIP Savannah William's

The trans-panic is pretty much what I think comes out of the toxic masculinity. The peer-pressure induced homophobia from the social fear of being perceived as gay in homophobic macho-circles, and the threat of ego for thinking you were "tricked." The longest trope against transwomen that I think exists. Where as I don't usually see this as much if at all from women who knowingly are partners to transmen or transwomen. Women who aren't homophobic are more likely to identify as pansexual in acceptance of that, than men are.

I celebrated my state passing the law keeping us safe from the Panic defense... Now that I hear the reason why we passed it, my Trans heart hurts so bad... I'm proud of my state, but holyshit we have a LONG way to go...

@Shakes_Bear

Ай бұрын

We truly do have a long ways. I'm glad we won this fight, though it only gets us so much. South Minneapolis is where I roam, big hugs to ya! A long way to go!

Stay vigilant sisters, we live in a world that is still dangerous for women and especially transwomen

Seems like an obvious hate crime...

How is this still a thing!

RIP queen we remember you

I didn't know her, but I was at the press release after she was killed. Her parents were the sweetest people. Teatime is a pretty great group. Anyone in MN who needs help or community should check them out.

Like warning labels, many laws exist because some innovative human found a new way to be a jack-donkey. Sometimes the law can anticipate problems, sometimes it can't, and sometimes it *should* anticipate but doesn't because the people in power lack the perspective and/or political willpower to act.

Let us also remember Selena Reyes-Hernandez, and the revolting reactions to her murder..

Which year of our lord was Jesus gonna come back on? I feel like he's trying for a dramatic reveal and that, but it really feels like he overhyped it and now he doesn't have the means to make a satisfying payoff so he's just dropping extra filler.

@UsenameTakenWasTaken

Ай бұрын

He just went out for milk. I'm sure he'll be back any day now.

@xandervanzyl9342

Ай бұрын

Mr. Bibles' family sends thoughts and prayers because of their son committing a hate crime this could be an onion article

Im part of tea time its a beautiful group pf people

@Shakes_Bear

Ай бұрын

Samesies. We have an amazing community!

I;ve been aware of this for a while but in the UK I honestly thought this wasn't a thing any more - but - technically - it seems like the Portsmouth defence has not actually been removed from law. But I need to look it up... more.

@offshot1st

Ай бұрын

edit: so it seems like the equality act basically makes this impossible to use here as a defense anyway,

Horrible!

🌈

While I agree with you. Law is always reactive because if it was proactive you would end up with staggeringly more innocent people in jail.

I am a terf and swerf but holy lilith that legislation should not be a thing fr.

@LuxanderReal

Ай бұрын

I mean, glad to have you on side for this issue at least