Smooth, quiet and an altogether delightful experience.

@horizelux2212

3 жыл бұрын

😂

@firestarteronyoutube5542

Жыл бұрын

oh not those infamous words😂

Guard: "Hello driver. There could be something wrong with the train, we need to do an inspection" Driver: "YES! Just what we needed!"

The apt could’ve gone on to be so good, it will be missed. And BREL, we miss you :(

The ATPs really have a phenomenal acceleration and deceleration rate! HSTs are no match for the ATP.

@Countrystephen

9 ай бұрын

Wot did you say😡

am watching this at 2:13 am, what a time to watch train sim

That’s sad APT quietly was taken out of service

@theextremeanimator4721

5 жыл бұрын

i think a full unit formation was preserved

@oXbarnesXo

4 жыл бұрын

@@theextremeanimator4721 Yes at the Heritage Museum in Crewe

@Someonesaidthis

3 жыл бұрын

It was replaced by the Pendolino

The HK brakes were built around the axles and worked like a sort of backwards hydraulic transmission. When applied the kinetic energy of the train was spent compressing the hydraulic fluid. It was planned for the heat generated by this process to be used onboard but that proved over-complicated. As you have probably realized the HK system became less useful as the train slowed, like regenerative systems used on other trains, so the APT had conventional brakes as well.

Shap station - The closed station @ 44:23. Was closed in 1968.

@douglashoblyn7490

6 жыл бұрын

TukayAway is a time for us tomorrow night

@JourneywithSmee

4 жыл бұрын

Bloody Dr Beeching

For 1979, the ATP-P is a phenomenal train! Goes like anything today too. Such a shame. Great video though, perfect presentation.

I love how this train used the existing tracks..

Great video, I thoroughly enjoyed watching you drive one of the best UK Train Simulator routes at high speed. There's nothing quite like taking 110mph bends at 155 tilting left and right in the APT-P really. Just a couple of minor things: the brake on the APT-P is a seven-step plus emergency brake. There are steps 1 to 6, the full service (labelled Full is step 7) and Emergency is beyond that, in other words there is one more service braking step than in an HST or IC225. The in cab speed display is C-APT not C-ATP and stands first Control-Advanced Passenger Train, it is a Driver Advisory System not a full Train Protection System, provided the driver cancels the warning for an upcoming reduction in speed, the system like AWS with red signals, will NOT provide an intervention brake application. Finally, if you are wondering what the 'boost' the power controller is for, it is provided for extra power on steep gradients i.e. Shap and Beattock, but it can only be used for 20 seconds at a time otherwise the traction motors will overhead and the circuit breakers will trip. A few extra points, while you can get away with using mostly Step 4 braking even from High Speed, full service braking was routinely used in regular service, as was a common train handling technique up until the early/mid 90s. Secondly you can and Drivers did start off in full power, in the later years of service circa 1984, the sets provided a "relief" service timetabled about 30 mins behind a 110mph Class 87 and Mk3 set, the train would get up to 125mph and catch the 87 in 15 mins and promptly slow down to about 100mph and crawl along behind the 87 the rest of the way to Glasgow. The fastest scheduled regular APT-P services were timetabled for 4 hrs 10 mins each way with 3 Intermediate calls at Watford Junction, Preston and Motherwell. The Pendolinos have never been timetabled first less than 4 hrs 8 and that was with only one stop and 34 years of technological advances. And of course the APT-P still holds the record for the fastest Euston to Glasgow time, including a 5 minute stop for a signal failure near Stafford, of 3 hrs 52 mins. Such a shame the APT-P never properly entered regular passenger service or it could have provided us with 155mph InterCity trains for the past 30-odd years.

@andybray9791

4 жыл бұрын

hexagon 789 didn’t know u knew the insides out til Now

first time iv'e watched a train simulator video, glad i made the right decision and chose your channel iv'e enjoyed the journey and your commentary was very thorough but simple enough for a complete newbie like me to understand, and iv'e just clicked the subscribe button too. thank you.

Top class video as always Peter. I went in the cab of the APT at Crewe heritage center and it looks just the same.

It seems kind of insane that they allowed the APT to do 155 on those curves! It must’ve had a REALLY good tilting mechanism, and it’s a shame there aren’t more trains nowadays that can safely tilt into curves at such high speeds.

@aaronsprouse7101

5 жыл бұрын

The pendolino was designed to do 140, but it only does 125 due to signaling issues.

@ZeldaACFan17

4 жыл бұрын

Some trains can do 200mph

@kitspackman3994

9 ай бұрын

It did have a really good tilt system. At the time it was the highest performance tilt system in the world at 9 degrees/second. The gas turbine powered APT-E train, now in the Locomotion Museum at Shildon, could do 11 degrees/second on a good day, and although it never actually needed to do it we did test it at that rate a few times.

I grew up in Preston and the station and even the surroundings are really accurate

@PTGRail

6 жыл бұрын

This game can be quite accurate at times :)

+12:55 I noticed that it seems to tilt more than 9 degrees too - I assumed it was due to the superelevation plus 9 degrees ?

u the best engineer i've seen so far as far as knowledge goes.

@PTGRail

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! :)

Wow Peter. This train is incredibly fast! I can see what you mean about the amount of curves, there are, literally, hundreds!! Great video as normal :)

@PTGRail

6 жыл бұрын

Just over 2.5 miles a minute/4km a minute. It’s fun to drive!

Strange how the AWS reset button is blue and the CAPT button is yellow

I was looking forward to seeing this video! Thanks.

No wonder those trains made people feel ill, that tilt is savage! I know quite a few people who get ill on Pendos. ECML forever!

@jay-9967

4 жыл бұрын

I totally agree with you. That looks really weird tbh...

@matthewhanna9115

3 жыл бұрын

Julian it tilted VERY fast and at 9 degrees. Trial and error is what it call it

Excellant Video yet again thankyou for sharing

The shaking is probably one of the reasons they were limited to 125mph as it looks a lot like hunting oscillation (I know this is video game footage but it makes sense in real life).

@james123212

6 жыл бұрын

the APT in the sim has a bug with one of the vehicles that causes the abnormal amounts shaking at speed the real train didnt shake as much

@mikawelll

2 жыл бұрын

@@james123212 Yeah it's shacks only in cab view. DTG has never resolve this issue like usual....

@kitspackman3994

9 ай бұрын

It didn't do that in real life, the curving and tilt performance were pretty smooth much of the time. There was a vast amount of development work put into the spring rates and dampers on the bogies to ensure it rode just like that.

Loved the video please keep it up.

Another fine and interesting video, Peter. I suspect that passenger queezieness on the original trains was more than a little due to the track bed not being up to the higher speeds - on the straights as ell as the curves.

@OlanKenny

5 жыл бұрын

Also a little bit to do with copious amounts of alcohol consumed before the testing

I was on the platform at Wigan when one went through. I don't think it was in service. It certainly tilted by more than 9 degrees

Defintley a nice route PTG, and amazing train too. Its a shame that it was withdrawn, i'd like to see running again at one point. It looks quite complex in TS2018 too. Also im not sure if you do requests/foreign routes, but i'd recommend Bucuresti-Peris from TrainMotion (and various CFR content from TrainSimRomania). Greetings! EDIT: Was i the only one to notice that the train was running both pantographs down at the end of the video? lol

Great video man 👍👏✌

@PTGRail

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks :)

Fantastic video 😁😁

@PTGRail

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! :)

OK 8.5 thousand views - wow! Nice one mate. You are getting the views you deserve. All the best for now. Cheers Jim

@PTGRail

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jim! The channel has certainly grown since you first encountered me something like 3 years ago. I’m hoping to really grow it more this coming year. My current most watched video is the British signalling Guide which has garnered 75 thousand views! :)

Nice vídeo, good comments. Nice driving to, altough I would enjoy seeing the passage on the Neutral Zones done more properly.

@PTGRail

6 жыл бұрын

I miss them half the time due to the signs being really small, and having to look down at my notes to help with what’s coming next. But I will try to do them more realistically in the future. :)

@Aldarion1977

6 жыл бұрын

I see. What i really want to know is if the train brings a main breaker to switch on or off while passing the NZ. I didnt hear any sound related to that in this vídeo has I hear while driving class 86 or 87...

@dpkeys

6 жыл бұрын

Considering how far away the power cars are from the cab I can understand why we wouldn't hear anything.

@Aldarion1977

6 жыл бұрын

i see. So what is behind the drivers cab? I'm now curious about the driving wheels arrangement... i will Google it cause i already found out the train is much longer than i though. This is a fantastic train!

Great video, just bought the train and route. Do you have to do anything special when creating a scenario to get the train to run at 155mph? Thanks

Great stuff.

Curious that the scenario would end at the station when the route itself in Train Sim is modeled all the way to the Gretna Green junction that diverges towards Dumfries so there's a good 5 minutes of driving left past the station but in scenarios it almost never gets used sadly.

Weird seeing the train station where I live (Carlisle) in a simulation

That is pronounced Tee bay, or perhaps Tea bay I believe. There's A really good motorway service station on the M6 near there independently run by a local farmer.

@daviddunninguk

5 жыл бұрын

Robert Langford indeed you are right! Related to my Dad

Wow very fast train good vid

I think they should reintroduce these trains with a tad of modernisation obviously. Even after all these years they still look the part. And 155mph is soooooo slow these days!! The hydo kinetic braking system is fluid based. So the fluid which cannot be compressed acts against the motion of the wheel. It is very effective. So the "Brakes are running a bit hot." message is a bit spurious in reality.

@kitspackman3994

9 ай бұрын

The brakes really could run hot. As the fluid was forced into the HK brake system it got hotter as it braked the axle, the energy had to go somewhere and it emerged as heat. The fluid then returned to the brake system under the coach body and was cooled through a brake system radiator that was under the floor as well, thus the many cooling grilles in the sides of the under-belly. At times things did get a bit too warm and the warning would come up.

I must try and find a reference, but in relation your your statement about 9 degrees tilt, I was under the impression that the APT was designed with a maximum of 14 or 15 degrees tilt, but this was never actually used. Production models (that never came to be) were capable of this.

@PTGRail

6 жыл бұрын

That could be the case. I remember reading 9 degrees somewhere, but I could be mistaken.

@kitspackman3994

9 ай бұрын

@@PTGRail Not so, the APT-P was designed to tilt to 9 degrees maximum in service, but could mechanically tilt to 12 degrees before it hit the tilt bump stops, but only if it was subjected to extra lateral forces, like point & crossing work at the time. In actually the APT-Ps rarely did do that, but the gas turbine APT-E certainly did, more than a few times!

Hi there PTGRail, i watch your video and it is amazing. But one thing, the horn doesn't work for my Apt, do you know why its happening? Thanks

Just watched both this and the route driven on the Pendalino - weird, as that train is far newer in design and yet, despite not having the significant delays with slower traffic that the APT had, only managed the route in the same time. Also noticed that the APT (at least on the simulator) appears to lean far more, perhaps one of the reasons why (as well as its a more moreful engine setup) it can do the full 155mph round the bends as well as on the straight sections, whereas the Pendalino is only rated for 125mph tops anywhere. What a train the APT could've been had BR been better managed and the political will was there to see the project through. Whilst it was mainly designed for the twisty West Coast route, I'd have loved to see it doing 155+ (no reason why it couldn't) on the Midland and East Coast Main Lines et al.

I can see how people got motion sick on that train. But you did say it tilts more in the sim than it did in real life.

@agent_605

6 жыл бұрын

Jason People don’t often get motion sickness on the Pendolinos and they do the same tilting as the APT

@james123212

6 жыл бұрын

modifications to the tilting system were made to reduce the the chance of passengers getting motion sickness

I installed this game last night and have everything on max i7 8700k and 1080ti and the the trackline is gliched really bad ? any ideas on how i can fix this issue as I have a good setup. Your vids look silky smooth

I am kinda confused about the light settings. Isn't the left main light used for night time setting? Also as I checked up some real life operation documentaries, it seems it is the common setting for ATP as it was always running with that setting. So does have APT some kind of main (left) / spare (right) system instead of the common day / night setting?

Great video:) I have downloaded the track and vegitation upgrades, however I don't know how to install them. Please could you tell me how?

Hey, great video! I send message to join request to the Facebook group for the track and vegetation upgrades but I have not been accepted. Is there another way to get hold of them?

the new mic works well. nice dynamics, but picks up a lot of little movements you make and bits around, now :) and what a fast train... :D

@PTGRail

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I’ve noticed that, and it’s with the gain set to the lowest setting. I’m going to research how to reduce background noise. :)

@rogerrogerovo2760

6 жыл бұрын

it's not necessarily a bad thing. better #asmr :)

Excellent

Any way to access this track & veg upgrade without going through FB? Edit: Managed to download the compressed files for WCML over Shap and WCMLN. Apparently I need Konstant-Villigen as well? Also how do I install this upgrade???

are you using a 4k monitor? or could you post your nvidia settings? AA looks horrible to me on my sim.

9 minutes ago? 50 views? What is this madness!

@PTGRail

6 жыл бұрын

In the real time view stats, it's actually 130 views already! I'm quite surprised at this time of night.

Great video ptg rail, I was thinking of getting a new gaming computer for my birthday. What do you recommend? Do you think a 3.0 ghz processor will work? And what graphics card do you think I'll need. By the way this is for train simulator 2016.

I've noticed that you don't have lag spikes when loading in the scenery. How? I thought Train sim's coding was the cause for this.

What microphone did you get?

Ah my favourite train! Does Train Simulator support VR?

How are you supposed to operate this without it crashing?

Fantastic video! I do enjoy your route learning videos. Quick question, did you have a problem with the brakes releasing at all on the APT? On one of the scenarios I released the brakes but they didn't release.

@PTGRail

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad to know that you enjoy my videos. I've not experienced any problems with the brakes on the APT myself.

@agent_605

6 жыл бұрын

If it was emergency brakes, you need to pull up the plunger in the cab, put the normal brakes into emergency setting, put the reverser into auxiliaries then release the standard train brake, then put the reverser back into forward and start moving again

Phew! Can I breathe now?

why were both pantographs down

Great video. The track upgrade really does improve it! What screen recording software do you use for these videos as I'm thinking of making my own Train Simulator videos for KZread?

@PTGRail

6 жыл бұрын

I agree that the track upgrade really transforms the route. I'm currently using FRAPS for screen recording.

@CoradiaClass175

6 жыл бұрын

+Morgan Roberts I usually use the Recording software which is provided by the GPU manufacturer (AMD or Nvidia), integrated graphics (Such as Intel HDXXXX) won't be helpful, but if you do own an Nvidia GPU, you'll require Shadowplay, and the equivalent for AMD

@ShwervinMervin

6 жыл бұрын

Hi there. I stream/record a bunch of games, and I find OBS really quite helpful. It’s free, easy to use, and you can get certain browser plugins. (Google ‘streamlabs’) If you want top-notch videos; I’d really recommend them.

did you see a red and white sighn

Think it was CAPT mate not CATP but still. Loved the video

Well there is a train that still uses a tilting mechanisms it's called the inter city 125 it's the only one out of two train that tilt in the uk

@DJ-J3

4 жыл бұрын

The intercity 125 does not tilt, they are just consists made up of mk3 coaches and two class 43 loco's - class 390 tilts and the super voyagers and possibly some newer uk trains but the intercity 125/225 does not tilt

@tomtalk24

4 жыл бұрын

Like J3Media said, Class 390 and 221. 125's only tilt when they crash.

Lovely video, what are your specs/ graphics settings on? It looks amazing

@PTGRail

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I’m using the highest graphics settings with 2x2 SSAA. The machine I’m running on has an Intel Core i7 4790k 4ghz processor with 16gb DDR3 1833mhz RAM and an NVIDIA GTX 980 graphics card. :)

It’s C-APT (Control-Advanced Passenger Train) btw not C-ATP (It’s a common mistake, I Hear people calling the train ATP all the time)

I think the southern high speed journey is a that faster with it's 300 km/h ?

@PTGRail

6 жыл бұрын

The route can handle 300kph, but the Southeastern Class 395 is limited to 225kph/140mph.

How come you are zoomed out much further than i can when i play ?

@PTGRail

6 жыл бұрын

I made a video to answer just that question! :) kzread.info/dash/bejne/gquLxpOghsu6abg.html

go from glasgow to manchester airport

PTG just a quick question have you made a workshop version of this route your doing now and if not is there any chance of you doing this one using all steam products and your vegetation enhancement without and not using any reskins as i cant afford to get the WinRAR at the moment and ive already tried out the free trial version also i couldn't get any reskins unzipped and loaded onto ts

@agent_605

6 жыл бұрын

Anthony Parker WinRAR is free...

@tonyp011

6 жыл бұрын

no its not as ive been asked to pay after using the free trial

@agent_605

6 жыл бұрын

You can close those messages and still use it, they say you have to but if you just close them it still works just fine. If not use 7zip

Did this train actually tilt around the curves?

@james123212

6 жыл бұрын

yes

@notoriousrome5985

5 жыл бұрын

like almost every train in modern-day world

@TheAmir259

5 жыл бұрын

@@notoriousrome5985 except not all modern trains tilt. Only some do, most don't.

I already feel sick while watching it turn

Do you have any plans to do the Preston to Blackpool North and Blackpool South lines ?

@PTGRail

6 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, I don’t think the route to Blackpool has yet been made in TS, or else I would.

@mustangj0hn

6 жыл бұрын

Hi, thanks for the reply, I stumbled across this, hence my original query:- www.vulcanproductions.co.uk/northern-lines-blackpool---preston.html

could i have a link for the train sim game please?

@ejyxx5534

4 жыл бұрын

It's called steam boi and it's around 30 pounds if like me ur british

hey PTG how do you get the train to shake alot and why does your game lighting look different

@PTGRail

6 жыл бұрын

The train shakes a lot by itself, it's nothing I did. The lighting may look different as I'm using the AP lighting enhancement pack.

@ScoutZz

6 жыл бұрын

I also use the Lighting Effect pack but i dont see any realistic lighting

@agent_605

6 жыл бұрын

CresterYT it might be due to your train sim settings, make sure Dynamic Lighting etc is enabled before playing

Of course it was the now BR to get those speeds a reality that failed. Almost like the speed of most top German cars which have removable ecu limiters in them

It's bloody good vehicle! But diesel altenator don't working.(Well, it's working,but it's useless)

how do you reset aws self test

@buksi6342

4 жыл бұрын

Press Q.

So Ive joined the Facebook group....how do I download the upgrade pack?

@PTGRail

6 жыл бұрын

You can find all the information in the groups photo albums. And feel free to ask in there for help! :)

@Cookie2k

6 жыл бұрын

PTGRail thx PTG....I’m new to all this so still finding my way round..

What up with those clouds and dirty windscreen doh. Lol

Am I hallucinating or at the pantographs not up when you went through Penrith or Carlisle

@chrisedmundson6673

6 жыл бұрын

Your right they were down

@sammaclennan1875

6 жыл бұрын

Chris Edmundson thought so

@ThatCanadianGuy-e1p

6 жыл бұрын

Perhaps that is a neutral section.

@sammaclennan1875

6 жыл бұрын

Robert Clary doubt it, it happened when he went through a station

Had it reached production is it known whether the APT would have been used on the GEML and LTSR?

@OlanKenny

5 жыл бұрын

I suspect not there's not quite so many bends

Where did you get this game from? I really want it.

@PTGRail

6 жыл бұрын

You can purchase it online from Steam here: store.steampowered.com/app/24010/Train_Simulator/

@ellisbutler7956

6 жыл бұрын

Ok thanks

what was the FPS?

@PTGRail

6 жыл бұрын

I locked the FPS to 30 when recording.

If you're Interested about APT-P you'll find more about here kzread.info/dash/bejne/eaFmyaSKXarfYZs.html

Why does it look like it’s tilting?

@BelgianOperator

6 жыл бұрын

its jxy in the corners?

@james123212

6 жыл бұрын

because it is tilting thats what its designed to do

Isn’t the max speed of the APT 125 mph?

@agent_605

6 жыл бұрын

The Wonderful Bus 52 In passenger service the APT was limited to 125mph due to both signalling constraints and slower trains in front of it, but were designed for 155mph operation once signalling was upgraded and all the slower non-tilting trains were withdrawn, which never happened

@theonefromupnorth7681

6 жыл бұрын

Then how come PTG drove with a maximum of 155 mph? A Class 87 passed him at one point.

@agent_605

6 жыл бұрын

Because this is a hypothetical scenario that isn't real and includes 155mph operation when realistically the speed limit would be 125mph.

wow views.was yoy tired

Great vid but try to present the video with a less robotic voice

Dave. Hi jo 😮

Why did you exceed 125 mph?

@mikawelll

2 жыл бұрын

Because this train can and that allow in this line.

@TheArkamedBat

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikawelll Under ATP display says max speed 125 MPH

@mikawelll

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheArkamedBat That normal. In real life this train has never hits 155 mph because of signalizations issues. But in the game the scenario and the lined allows to do at 155mph without issues. It's normal.

sorry, apt wasnt a failed project, it was canceled, sold to fiat, who rebranded it the pendalino. which was always the intention, for the apt-f, or fleet. the class 91, IS the apt power cars, it also has tilting capabilities, how ever it was never disclosed, as bae systems and the gov, wouldnt have made as much money, by selling the technology and still retaining the technology in the class 89, 90, 91.

@PTGRail

Жыл бұрын

Not strictly true. The Class 91 and MK4 sets were designed in such a way that tilt functionality could be added, but it was never done. Hence the Class 91 and MK4 coaches never had any kind of tilting functionality or capability fitted. This is something I knew about as a child in the early 90s, so I'm not sure that it was never disclosed. Tilting functionality is also much less useful on the ECML than the WCML, and the Class 91 fleet ended up being utilised for ECML services.

@kitspackman3994

9 ай бұрын

BR DIDN'T sell the APT technology to FIAT! That's a fallacy that was put about by an ignorant article in The Economist. FIAT didn't need the technology, they already had the Pendolino trains in production at the time, and had had for some years. Their systems produced similar performance to the APT-P but by totally different methods, the tilt systems are nothing like each other for instance. There were many mergers and buy-outs at the time of BR's privatisation, and some some sections of the business ended up with the consortium that also contained FIAT, thus the fallacy.

Why did they not keep it as a not tilt train?

@TheArkamedBat

2 жыл бұрын

Bc they wanted to compete with cars and planes

Da train is electric

I guess you can change levers and press buttons hands free... God why are so many simulators bad at representing the human in the seat.

drunk journalist and the apt did not go well... BR sold the apt knowledge to the Italians, we then brought back the Pendolino's.

@kitspackman3994

9 ай бұрын

No they didn't, see my comment a short way above.