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Trackmania's Most Hilariously Overpowered Bug
This is the story of when Trackmania players discovered a bug so powerful that the developers had to patch it - or at least they tried to patch it...
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It is understandable that Riolu would be upset about his record being bopped. It took him twice as long to drive it.
@thenooneman01239
7 ай бұрын
good one
@haph2087
5 ай бұрын
hehehe
@flashufo
5 ай бұрын
Violation 😂
@SomeRandomBoiii
4 ай бұрын
DAMN 😂😂😂
@smiley2590
Ай бұрын
hahhahahha thats way to funny
Riolu considering backwards driving a step too far has to be the funniest thing ever
@fotovcz
Жыл бұрын
xd thought the same
@asuri8751
Жыл бұрын
This is his origin story, I bet he hadn't cheated at all yet and got tired of the game and it's bugs like this so he was willing to do anything to "be the best"
@fotovcz
Жыл бұрын
@@asuri8751 stll sjliud not have cheated
@StAngerNo1
Жыл бұрын
I forgot who said it, I think Karl Jobst, but "The best players don't cheat to get a better time, they cheat to get a better time faster." People keep forgetting that Riolu was one of the best players in the world, he could compete in the TM Grand League and other online events. I guess he just did not have to patience to grind a track for dozens, if not hundrets of hours to achieve a new world record. I do not want to excuse him, it is still despicable to cheat, because that way he robs the title from players that actually put in the work and time to grind out a new world record, but it does not invalidate this critizism.
@wolfbad512
Жыл бұрын
@@asuri8751what Wasn't he cheating since he was a kid?
I cannot get over the fact, out of all players, Riolu said that this was against the moral of Trackmania, he posted all of it while being well aware that he was cheating. Incredible.
@josephisvr2947
3 ай бұрын
how do you have 1k likes and no replies. what is this world
@craigsellers2128
2 ай бұрын
No reply needed really. 100% accurate.
@a0a0-jt
16 күн бұрын
@@josephisvr2947 because not everyone is a robot like you and has to respond we can simply like a comment and go on with our days
This just goes to show that given enough time, accelerated backhopping eventually shows up in every game, even the car ones
@ToaderTheToad
2 жыл бұрын
What is it with developers not capping backwards speed properly
@marisanya
2 жыл бұрын
God dammit Desinc
@von...
2 жыл бұрын
holy shit you're right lmfao actually fire introspection lol
@user-je2yq7ru8w
Жыл бұрын
@@ToaderTheToad it's actually a ridiculous, novice mistake. It's because they're simply subtracting velocity to make you slower as the expectation is that this will bring velocity toward 0, but when your velocity is already negative it makes you faster. All they have to do in this case is switch between adding and subtracting velocity based on current velocity being positive or negative.
@ralexcraft990
Жыл бұрын
@@user-je2yq7ru8wcan’t you just make the speed an absolute and subtract from that? And then have the speed part of the velocity be independent from direction?
11:30 «Despite the call for action by the fairest competitor out there», Wirtual not holding back☠️
@tiloluedecke1793
2 жыл бұрын
☠️☠️☠️
@limkeitaunityss9160
2 жыл бұрын
stop! stop! he's already dead!
@istvanszilagyi9384
2 жыл бұрын
Riolu had it coming. I wonder if he is still writing his apology in 0.2x slow motion
@madhuram2313
2 жыл бұрын
@@istvanszilagyi9384 💀💀💀
@altecme_
2 жыл бұрын
Wirtual owning 💀
"Despite the call to action by the fairest competitor out there..." OUCH, You hit him so hard that I felt it
@KarnBlueEarring
2 жыл бұрын
That shockwave went around the earth 💀
@mal2ksc
Жыл бұрын
Wirtual hit riolu so hard it made Will Smith cringe.
@iantaakalla8180
Жыл бұрын
And prevented the streamer from becoming a Lucario
@benrex7775
Жыл бұрын
I'm not a Trackmania player (an no native speaker either). What is the problem with that statement?
@zapadap1328
Жыл бұрын
@@benrex7775 The player he was talking about was a known cheater, and so the heavy handed sarcasm was really funny to me
Nadeo: "Nooo, you can't go faster while driving backwards." Also Nadeo: "Haha car on nose goes brrrrr."
@dorbenyamin-bar8660
Жыл бұрын
Nose bug hard backwards driving is easy
@Rkym_
Жыл бұрын
XD
@lisahenry20
Жыл бұрын
Ah but don't you see? Nadeo tried making a realistic racing game. Driving backwards is simply impossible. Driving on the nose however, that's what all the idiots racing down my street at 2am do all the time and is super realistic.
@zloidooraque0
Жыл бұрын
@@lisahenry20 i myself did it once, cant drive otherwise since.. it's also very convenient for parking, try it
@zloidooraque0
Жыл бұрын
@Esl Hypr! i flipped on my bike over a hood of some moron whi forgot what's the headlights and entrance to main road at night at my 60 km/h strongly nuff, only damage was his hood teared by the horns of mu bike and screwed front wheel that i fixed in 10 mins he wanted to get money for repair from me lol. then he saw my face and backed off =))
The "Sometimes you have to take 1 step backwards" joke was so cheesy and so good at the same time
@lesnt4449
Жыл бұрын
Or 50kmps backwards
Something about Riolu at 11:23 talking about "fairness in competition" cause people are beating his hacked WR by driving backwards is comical
@EddieOtool
2 жыл бұрын
Comical aint the word to me. I'd rather say... concerning.
@Sagolel4797
2 жыл бұрын
@@EddieOtool ironic
@e3Gewinnt
2 жыл бұрын
@@Sagolel4797 hilarious
@odb583
2 жыл бұрын
Pathetic more like it
@howdycrusader355
Жыл бұрын
@@e3Gewinnt hypocritical
‘Call to action by the fairest competitor out there’ Gotta love wirtual
@doubledoot
2 жыл бұрын
I know I'm being that guy rn, but it's just gonna reignite old hate if riolu finds out.
@WimpieKanaal
2 жыл бұрын
@@doubledoot What he gonna do? Not play some more?
@abinvarkey2331
2 жыл бұрын
@@WimpieKanaal 🤣🤣
@masterslayerable
2 жыл бұрын
@@doubledoot riolu is already a joke, if he returns to be mad hell just seem like more of a petulant child than he already did
@ekkione9296
2 жыл бұрын
@@doubledoot good. riolu doesnt deserve a place in this community. i get it that everybody deserves a 2nd chance but cmon. he cheated over 200 runs and didnt even admit it.
Very well done. :) So much of the information put into such a relatively short video. There are only minor things that I would have added or that maybe come a bit unclear. For example: - It sounds as if you could use the backwards trick on many maps, but in fact the maps need to have certain criterias so that backwards can be faster. In Canyon it was difficult to find any map and back then as well as nowadays: there is no Canyon campaign map where the record drives backwards. The first maps where I got a record were multilap maps, so that I don't have the time loss at the start. -Starting with kb only makes sense when you drive forwards and turn around in a start jump. You can’t wiggle backwards with normal keyboard. But still: using multiple devices with different dxtweak settings would be the solution. The wiggles are most powerful the more you steer, just right before sliding out. If you use extreme settings of dxtweak just for the high velocity in the end, you will have bad wiggles as you don’t steer enough. Only with a joystick or steering wheel it could work to only use one device for the best possible outcome due to its precision. Otherwise you would need to have multiple devices, each one with different max steering for the different speeds.. but then the question is: is that cheating then? - In 2017 we already knew that backwards driving is still faster, but without knowing about the wiggling it took just very long until the car got fast enough. We did that on short circle maps on an online server. Also on Valley A05: without wiggling it needs 10 Laps, but then you will be faster than forwards (as you need to steer in the 2 corners each lap anyway). So you could beat Dedi records on Multilap maps online in TimeAttack. But for normal start to finish the acceleration to these speeds took too long.
@bubbley1234
2 жыл бұрын
marius.
@gizer-bs
2 жыл бұрын
Why only 50 likes
@asan4628
2 жыл бұрын
the man himself
@hvvbg1199
2 жыл бұрын
Props an dich, ich Spiele zwar kein Trackmania aber es ist immer interessant zu sehen was ihr dort alles veranstaltet 😁
@_ernst
2 жыл бұрын
I thought dxtweak is now officially banned, given Nadeos response on its use some weeks ago: kzread.info/dash/bejne/oX1rqrNwoJW6Y5s.html
This man literally brought reverse bhopping from after-hl2-patch era source engines into trackmania. What a legend.
@keiyakins
Жыл бұрын
or BLJs from Mario 64. Or the one fun thing in Big Rigs. Or that bug in my high school game that never released. it's hilariously common actually
I'm glad that Riolu cares about what is fair
@bigboykenob2244
Жыл бұрын
Character development
@bigboykenob2244
Жыл бұрын
Character development
@youraveragerobloxkid
Жыл бұрын
"please be fair because i totally am"
@bandaw98
Жыл бұрын
Olin 100% varma, että löydän sun kanavalta Trackmania videoita, koska sun nimimerkki ja tuo lyhenne olis täydellisen nerokas valinta suomalaiselle trackmania pelurille :D
The backwards wiggle trick seems very similar to accelerated back hopping in modern versions of half life 2
@quackodemon9822
2 жыл бұрын
That immediately sprung to my mind as well
@txchno4271
2 жыл бұрын
if i had to guess they prob use the same concept, being ‘negative’ compensation speed
@08tanooki
2 жыл бұрын
My first thought when I clicked on this video was "so basically a half life style negative acceleration"
@F_I_J_I_W_A_T_E_R
2 жыл бұрын
It's funny how Mario 64, HL2, and Trackmania all have the same bug for the same reason
@spitzlam0920
2 жыл бұрын
And Portal as well since it runs on the same engine
Seeing a message from Riolu saying that backwards driving is a step too far is hilarious to me in light of what he has done. With that being said this is crazy fast considering it's in reverse, and for it to still be a thing undiscovered 6 years after the patch is crazy too. I don't play TM at all but I love learning about it through your Videos Wirtual so please keep it up
@PJOZeus
10 ай бұрын
To be fair it is kind of dumb he didn’t even try to run the track once since it was patched, a single run on AO5 would’ve shown him you could still accelerate - nothing was different in execution between the original run and the rediscovery
the jab at Riolu was golden
@SomeRandomBoiii
4 ай бұрын
dadusak what are you doing at a TM video??? 😂😂😂
Not weird Riolu thought that was really fast, considering his normal speed was -200%! :)
@aquilleswinkler5051
2 жыл бұрын
11:17 I spat out my drink when I saw who was complaining about game exploits XDXDXDXDXDXDXD
@smikkelbeertje835
2 жыл бұрын
@e flappy Arab?😂
@trashcan3958
2 жыл бұрын
Wow what a funny and original comment! Good for you for getting it out of your system.
@Vilaxe_
2 жыл бұрын
@@trashcan3958 username checks out
@nickvankoeverden6235
2 жыл бұрын
Man i really miss his content.
Props to Marius for discovering and mastering this trick. Considering how dedicated he is to all TM games, he deserves a video focused on him!
@nijerjohn2517
2 жыл бұрын
Been scrolling 6 mins to find a Marius comment. Definitely deserves much more praise and viewers on twitch/youtube. Watch Marius89TM with me on Twitch! www.twitch.tv/marius89tm?sr=a
@gui1521
2 жыл бұрын
@@nijerjohn2517 I agree! He's amazing and I've checked the link, you can safely click on it guys.
@ScrewDMarius89
2 жыл бұрын
thanks guys :o
@martiansyrup4331
2 жыл бұрын
@@ScrewDMarius89 hallo again Marius
@lordremo5235
2 жыл бұрын
SafeMeister Special !!!!
I think that driving backwards in racing games is really cool, it’s like cranking up the difficulty in exchange for speed
Thank you riolu for standing up for the community !
"The fairest competitor out there" god damn Wirt he's already dead lmao
@syvulpie
2 жыл бұрын
"Stop, Stop! He's already deaaaaad!"
@barcag6001
2 жыл бұрын
Too much in my opinion
@jjoji5230
2 жыл бұрын
incredibly petty for someone who barely escaped from recent cheating allegations. I used to like this guy but he is letting his ego flaunt here. sad honestly
@ssjgoten202
2 жыл бұрын
@@jjoji5230 I'm interested in this where can I read more? also how do you barely escape cheating, you either did or didn't?
@icantbedwarseither9939
2 жыл бұрын
@@jjoji5230 lmao ur overthinking, this shits funny asf
11:15 "it would ruin the fairness of competition" written by Riolu...
What I really enjoy about these types of "hackable" bugs is that it shows how people with higher creativity and geniality can achieve something beyond pure hard work.
@eaeaeeaeae8238
Жыл бұрын
unlike some certain individual who downloaded an app and set his game's speed to -200% 🤡
@Gamorou
Жыл бұрын
These kinds of bugs are called glitches
@Aldraz
Жыл бұрын
@@Gamorou Thanks, Mr. Obvious.
@Gamorou
Жыл бұрын
@@Aldraz Not obvious enough if you call them " 'Hackeable' bugs" instead of the proper name
@Aldraz
Жыл бұрын
@@Gamorou It both has pretty much the same meaning. The word glitch was probably invented in the Matrix movie, when they said "it's the glitch in the Matrix". And it became a catch phrase and then I first discovered "glitches" in 2007 from a YT video when I was trying to get on top of the building in Crossfire CoD4 map. Someone simply called it that and it stayed I guess. But look at the title of the video and now look back at yourself, do you feel stupid now? They called it a bug first. I am not gonna be trying to sound like a smartass by correcting them.
Must be absolutely insane to be training on a map with no prior knowledge and suddenly the ghost turns on a jump stays behing and suddenly blitzes past never to be catched again
I'm 34% sure that we will see more world records with this in the future.
@jarvis9512
2 жыл бұрын
You had to do it, didn't you XD
@garagara4849
2 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there
@puerlatinophilus3037
2 жыл бұрын
Limit yourself to 34% to unlock 200% of your potential
@invoidker1049
2 жыл бұрын
Isnt useing DX tweak basically the same as Wirtual's keyboard software?
@epilog80
2 жыл бұрын
@@invoidker1049 Yeah, but still many people don't like it, because it "seems" to be cheating. Nobody has really any way of proving runs were driven with/without, and Nadeo said that they don't endorse it. Though they have no way to check it.
Many don’t realise but the simple idea of limiting input range to only 20%, inspired Riolutm to ask the revolutionary question: “what if the game time was 50%?”
Nice video, I can still remember the moment of Marius in Canyon. The fact that it is rediscovered in another way is just crazy
I love to watch your videos when I'm feeling down, your voice is like a pretty great calmer and it helps a lot, and you explain everything so well from trackmania that makes me wanna play it so much
11:30 sure thing Riolu :)
Every time I see riolu show up in track records there is a sting of betrayal that pierces my skin. not because I actually cared about him but because his long ass multi-hour compilations of track record videos actually had good music in them, and now I'll never know what it was.
@karelpgbr
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, same, seeing Riolu reminds me that the world isn’t fair…
@haxel96
2 жыл бұрын
A lot of the music he used in his streams is under the "Liquicity" label, you might be able to find some of it there!
@olivieero123456789
2 жыл бұрын
Liquid drum and bass
@bannah6400
Жыл бұрын
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@eggoslayer1001
Жыл бұрын
It's sad because he was a great player even when he didn't cheat. He could have had a path to redemption and a lot of people would have cheered him on to make a comeback. He'd obviously have to make amends to the community and show that he's changed before that would happen though which is only fair. Instead he's just refused to admit it when he was confronted with damning evidence that proved he cheated and attacked the most beloved member of the community over it, which was the worst thing he could have done. It's just a huge shame.
As a casual trackmania player I find it crazy that people think driving backwards is silly! Watching the perspective of the slower car at the end as the backwards driver swerves back and forth at blinding speeds is inspirational, and I'm amazed people are able to do things backwards with less control at higher speeds
8:50 "Trackmania, but everytime you steer you accelerate"
I see a video about TM² Canyon, I click. Something about how the car feels in that game is my favourite across all TM games. I remember seeing the Valley A05 multilap WR using backwards driving and trying it myself, and never getting anywhere close to a success. It had vanished from my mind until this video brought that memory back up!
@spinnenente
2 жыл бұрын
canyon was and still is absolutely amazing. It is the only tm game where i got into the top 1k. I hope there is going to be a tm2020 canyon sometime in the future.
@jailman
Жыл бұрын
omg its tungsten
The really shocking part is, Nadeo almost _never_ does any bugfixes to car physics after the release of a particular edition of the game, in order to maintain deterministic physics backwards compatibility with replays made in prior versions. So for the "Mater Method" to be severe enough that they _did_ have to risk breaking backward compatibility... that's an achievement unto itself.
3:23 I love this, it reminds me of when McQueen was chasing Mater.
Hey Wirtual, I could not be less interested in this video game, but the way you presented and edited this video is absolutely amazing and ended up watching it all. Great job.
Really cool to see Canyon and Valley getting some spotlight!
@jakasalways
2 жыл бұрын
@W i s K y 💜👇 get a life
@ame_cake
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@gb-hd7hy
2 жыл бұрын
True, there should be more content like this for TM2!
@fluffel2556
2 жыл бұрын
I cant ruin the 69 likes :(
@Mystixor
2 жыл бұрын
Indeed a wonderful surprise. Can't wait to see more of these awesome games.
12:10 Song is called “Daisy and Violets Sideshow” by Luella Gren.
The wiggling to gain speed really reminds me of bunnyhopping in the Counter-Strike games. Really fascinating!
i like the part when lars said « it’s wigglin time » and started wigglin all over the place
This perfectly illustrates a common problem in software development, where the simple fix for a bug ends up causing even worse side effects.
@Xirdus
2 жыл бұрын
As a software developer, I'm almost certain both bugs existed at once, it's just nobody noticed the second one until the first one was patched.
@Guardian_Arias
Жыл бұрын
@@Xirdus yuppers at least in this case but man modern software development is a scarier spaghetti monster than the first time I confidently started a 3D print thinking I finally had a perfectly tuned printer and walked away for 12 hours.
@TheJacklikesvideos
4 ай бұрын
the problem that would arise from bugfix would be all the replays breaking.
Good to see a video on your main channel after binging 10 hours of WirtualTV
@BuckleysPants
2 жыл бұрын
WirtualTV is a better channel though
@polar2741
2 жыл бұрын
@@BuckleysPants No his editor is trash and a coke addict edit: JK, we wouldn't be able to watch the videos without you, but on a more serious note Pepsi>Coke
@fredriksvanes5264
2 жыл бұрын
@@BuckleysPants lmao
Surprised it took so long to find the bug especially after the patch. With a lot of games, speedrunners are digging into the code and analyzing things extremely closely, and trying everything they can think of. After any update they're immediately looking at exactly how it was fixed and whether that change introduced any new quirks they can abuse.
Man, that whole opening and the drop with that track, you are some kind of genius in storytelling editing and overall
@TheJacklikesvideos
4 ай бұрын
really? never watched a Summoning Salt video? i got huge SS vibes from that intro.
5:35 Imagine a racing game where the best theorical strategy is to be on 2 wheels and having some weird lines across the map, i dont really remember the game but they called the strat "noseboost"
@nilsbergman6618
2 жыл бұрын
😂🤣
@Arcsinx
2 жыл бұрын
Mmmh i wonder....
@kennyball3956
2 жыл бұрын
mario cart...im sure
@bannah6400
Жыл бұрын
Repent and follow Jesus my friend! Repenting doesn't mean confessing your sins to others, but to stop doing them altogether. Belief in Messiah alone is not enough to get you into heaven - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36). Contemplate how the Roman empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13. Revelation 17 confirms that it is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years to accomplish the religion of the Israelites C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate though because you can start a relationship with God and have proof. Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life. - Revelation 3:20 Revelation 6 1st Seal: White horse = Roman Empire conquering nations under Trajan 98-117 AD & Gospel spreading rapidly. 2nd Seal: Red horse, bloody civil wars with 32 different Emperors, most killed by the sword. 185-284 AD 3rd Seal: Black horse, economic despair from high taxes to pay for wars, farmers stopped growing. 200-250 AD 4th Seal: Pale horse, 1/4th of Romans died from famine, pestilence; at one point 5,000 dying per day. 250-300 AD 5th Seal: Diocletian persecuted Smyrna church era saints for ten years, blood crying out for vengeance. 303-312 AD 6th Seal: Political upheaval in the declining Roman Empire while the leaders battled each other. 313-395 AD Revelation 7 Sealing of 144,000, the saints, before trumpet war judgments, which led to the fall of the Roman Empire. Revelation 8 1st Trumpet: Alaric and the Goths attacked from the north, the path of hail, and set it on fire. 400-410 AD 2nd Trumpet: Genseric and the Vandals attacked the seas and coastlands, the blood of sailors in water. 425-470 AD 3rd Trumpet: Attila and the Huns scourged the Danube, Rhine & Po rivers area, dead bodies made water bitter. 451 AD 4th Trumpet: Odoacer and the Heruli caused the last Western Emperor (sun), Senate (moon) to lose power. 476 AD With the Western Roman Emperor (restrainer of 2 Thes. 2) removed; the son of perdition Popes took power. Revelation 9 Two woe judgments against the central 1/3rd and eastern 1/3rd of the Roman Empire. 612-1453 AD 5th Trumpet: Locust & scorpions point to Arabia, the rise of the Muslim army. Islam hides Gospel from Arabs. 612-762 AD 6th Trumpet: Turks released to attack Constantinople with large cannons (fire, smoke, brimstone). 1062-1453 AD Revelation 10 The little book is the printed Bible, which was needed after the Dark Ages when Scriptures were banned by Popes. Revelation 11 7th Trumpet: Martin Luther measured Roman Church; found that it’s an apostate church, not part of true temple. The two witnesses are the Scriptures and saints who proclaim the pure Gospel and testify against the antichrist Popes. Papal Church pronounced Christendom dead in 1514 AD. Silence for 3.5 years. Then Luther posted his 95 Thesis, which sparked the Protestant Reformation and brought the witnesses back to life. Millions of Catholics were saved. Revelation 12 Satan used the Roman Empire to try to wipe out the early Church, Satan was cast down as the Empire collapsed. Revelation 13 The antichrist beast Popes reigned in power 1,260 years, 538-1798, is the little horn of Daniel 7, son of perdition. The false prophet Jesuit Superior General rose to power from land (earth) of Vatican and has created many deceptions. Revelation 14 Points to great harvest during the Protestant Reformation & wrath on Catholic countries who obey antichrist Pope. Revelation 15 Overcoming saints victorious over the beast. Prelude to 7 vials and judgment on those who support Papal Rome. Revelation 16 1st Vial: The foul sore of atheism was poured out on Catholic France, leaving them with no hope, led to revolution. 2nd Vial: The French Revolution started in 1793, killed 250,000, as France had obeyed the Pope and killed saints. 3rd Vial: The French Revolution spread to rural areas of France, where Protestants had been killed in river areas. 4th Vial: The bloody Napoleonic wars shed the blood of countries who had revered and obeyed the antichrist Pope. 5th Vial: Judgment on the seat of the beast. Papal States invaded in 1798, Pope imprisoned, removed from power. 6th Vial: The Turks vast domain dried up, they were only left with Turkey. They lost control of Palestine in 1917 AD, Israel became a nation again in 1948
Wirtual is sooo good at getting you wrapped up in his storytelling. What an awesome video
Reminds me of the unholy speed tanks could get in 3rd Gen GTA Games when driving and shooting backwards. Their was technically a speed cap for driving backwards, but it only disabled your accelaration, just like in TM, but everytime you shot backwards you got a small speed boost (instead of while steering), which stacked with every shot.
Man what a riveting documentary. I feel like was THERE. The twists. The turns. Edge of my seat the whole time.
11:30 wirt really called him the fairest competitor out there lmao
@aquilleswinkler5051
2 жыл бұрын
I spat out my drink when I saw who was complaining about game exploits XDXDXDXDXDXDXD
@user-lz5vh9bb5w
2 жыл бұрын
xD
11:00 - "by 12 seconds" ...fine print..."Riolu". The infamy lives on.
Wirtual has progressed so far in the past while, mate you are doing insane work like no one else, keep it up!
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the similarity to the coast car from TMS/TMUF yet. Coast car also gains a ridiculous amount of speed if you drive it backwards while pressing forwards and wiggling. However, you need to be on a turbo. That technique is used on almost all modern stunt tracks which have the coast car.
"ruining fairness and competition" - riolu
@Kiwi2703
2 жыл бұрын
best part of the video lmao
Good video as always! I'm sure some people will criticize the timing considering the topic, but I find it perfect. Keep it up!
@20Gero09
2 жыл бұрын
I mean these videos are months in the making with research, editing, back and forth feedback etc so it's probably just a coincidence (and the overlap is only dxtweak anyways so yeah lol)
@DOGZZZZZD
2 жыл бұрын
2weeks ago?!
@godpipola7533
2 жыл бұрын
Hos tf backwards?
@bubbaphett8501
2 жыл бұрын
@@DOGZZZZZD yeah what lol
@pmurt-rl5775
2 жыл бұрын
@@DOGZZZZZD ikr wth is 2 weeks ago when this was released like 20 min ago...
9:23 "and he starts wiggeling as much as he could?" - thats so funny haha
I love this oldskool Wirtule style of video, it's what made you so big, and I think, had a big part to play in where Trackmania it's self is today! I know they must be *A LOT* more effort to make, but seeing one every once in a while is amazing, and I think important for your channel's growth, as they are just so interesting to watch. I don't even play the game, yet I am addicted to these "info" vids you put out. They are really well written, and narrated. :)
It's nice to see trackmania content about environments other than stadium. One thing I love about trackmania is the diversity of cars and environments but it seems like that has gotten a bit lost these days since stadium is so popular. I do hope they will add more environments to TM2020 at some point.
Trackmania 2020 has a built in steering limiter. It's called Action Key 1-5. It's useful in summer 2022 track 18 (the map with water)
Trackmania players never cease to surprise me. Still finding bugs to be faster even knowing that said bugs were fixed. Another example of a fantastic community, and another great story well done by Wirtual. Good job brother, keep the vids coming.
I think they should just add a new speedrun category for this, cause I’d love to see it become more competitive
12:50 "in most of racing games a wheel is the optimal input device" As happy 3 years owner of T300RS, i strongly disagree. Wheel is only good for simulators. Not for arcade games...... The fact that Granady can play Trackmania on this thing is a miracle and way too many years of experience.
@maniadesertfran
2 жыл бұрын
Thats why he said in most racing games, and then said that for this game it was better to play with keyboard or controller, but i gotta say that there is a player called granady, he does play with a wheel, a G29 i believe, and he is extremely good, but i think that depends on the trackmania game of course, but i´ve seen him play other trackmania games with wheel and he was very fast too.
@mateusvin
2 жыл бұрын
As a happy 2 month owner of T300RS, I agree with you.
@damgam98
2 жыл бұрын
@@maniadesertfran it's not a G29 but very close enough... It's that new model, G923.
@maniadesertfran
2 жыл бұрын
@@damgam98 ah okay, yeah I knew he had a Logitech wheel, but wasn't sure of the model.
@livedandletdie
2 жыл бұрын
A wheel is the optimal input device. Trust me on that, if you want to precisely control your steering angle. In which case all other input devices are mediocre in comparison.
It's funny to see that when a new gamebreaking tech that revitalizes it is found people quickly want it either banned or patched when, IMO, they should get a separate leaderboard. Having different options to play is always better than having only one. Talks about fairness are just there because people don't want to learn something new.
@Arthur-qv8np
2 жыл бұрын
It also depends whether the gamebreak is interesting or not, and just driving backwards is really not that interesting
@Gavinsloan356
2 жыл бұрын
The issue with TM2 games is all the times are stored in Nadeo/Ubisoft servers like TM2020 with an in game leaderboard. And like TM2020 its the standard for record times. The issue is they're not very likely to update TM2 and remove all the backwards times anytime soon, and definitley doubt a seperate leaderboard either. Since they'd have to sort every run.
@OrsoBruno
2 жыл бұрын
@@Gavinsloan356 well, having a site to upload times is what most games do nowadays, especially those that are not supported anymore. If the devs won't do it, then the fans should, at least in my opinion. You're free to disagree of course.
@OrsoBruno
2 жыл бұрын
@@Arthur-qv8np That's subjective of course, to me this looks hella fun to watch
@Gavinsloan356
2 жыл бұрын
@@OrsoBruno we have trackmania exchange already for seeing records outside of the game. But as we saw with the recent hack even that isn't always reliable with how long the site was down. Hopefully we can find a good compromise. But the TM2 community isn't nearly as a big anymore, so we'll just have to wait and see where we go with it. My main issue with it as an example is the whole DX Tweak thing. We just got a new rule saying third party programs to limit steering isn't cash money in TM2020.
Every single time a watch a Wirtual documentary, and he gets to the end of what the point seems, I'm only halfway through the video.
It's incredible how only pretty much
Insanely good video, I'm happy to see Valley getting some light even if it's for it's weirdest bug :D
11:25 : Will Wirtual not talking about the fact that Riolu Promoted the fix of the backwards bug strat, instead he cheated ? 11:35: Oh.
@azazeeel5043
2 жыл бұрын
Why did those two bots choose you of all people. Also, lol, same
@bannah6400
Жыл бұрын
Repent and follow Jesus my friend! Repenting doesn't mean confessing your sins to others, but to stop doing them altogether. Belief in Messiah alone is not enough to get you into heaven - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36). Contemplate how the Roman empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13. Revelation 17 confirms that it is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years to accomplish the religion of the Israelites C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate though because you can start a relationship with God and have proof. Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life. - Revelation 3:20 Revelation 6 1st Seal: White horse = Roman Empire conquering nations under Trajan 98-117 AD & Gospel spreading rapidly. 2nd Seal: Red horse, bloody civil wars with 32 different Emperors, most killed by the sword. 185-284 AD 3rd Seal: Black horse, economic despair from high taxes to pay for wars, farmers stopped growing. 200-250 AD 4th Seal: Pale horse, 1/4th of Romans died from famine, pestilence; at one point 5,000 dying per day. 250-300 AD 5th Seal: Diocletian persecuted Smyrna church era saints for ten years, blood crying out for vengeance. 303-312 AD 6th Seal: Political upheaval in the declining Roman Empire while the leaders battled each other. 313-395 AD Revelation 7 Sealing of 144,000, the saints, before trumpet war judgments, which led to the fall of the Roman Empire. Revelation 8 1st Trumpet: Alaric and the Goths attacked from the north, the path of hail, and set it on fire. 400-410 AD 2nd Trumpet: Genseric and the Vandals attacked the seas and coastlands, the blood of sailors in water. 425-470 AD 3rd Trumpet: Attila and the Huns scourged the Danube, Rhine & Po rivers area, dead bodies made water bitter. 451 AD 4th Trumpet: Odoacer and the Heruli caused the last Western Emperor (sun), Senate (moon) to lose power. 476 AD With the Western Roman Emperor (restrainer of 2 Thes. 2) removed; the son of perdition Popes took power. Revelation 9 Two woe judgments against the central 1/3rd and eastern 1/3rd of the Roman Empire. 612-1453 AD 5th Trumpet: Locust & scorpions point to Arabia, the rise of the Muslim army. Islam hides Gospel from Arabs. 612-762 AD 6th Trumpet: Turks released to attack Constantinople with large cannons (fire, smoke, brimstone). 1062-1453 AD Revelation 10 The little book is the printed Bible, which was needed after the Dark Ages when Scriptures were banned by Popes. Revelation 11 7th Trumpet: Martin Luther measured Roman Church; found that it’s an apostate church, not part of true temple. The two witnesses are the Scriptures and saints who proclaim the pure Gospel and testify against the antichrist Popes. Papal Church pronounced Christendom dead in 1514 AD. Silence for 3.5 years. Then Luther posted his 95 Thesis, which sparked the Protestant Reformation and brought the witnesses back to life. Millions of Catholics were saved. Revelation 12 Satan used the Roman Empire to try to wipe out the early Church, Satan was cast down as the Empire collapsed. Revelation 13 The antichrist beast Popes reigned in power 1,260 years, 538-1798, is the little horn of Daniel 7, son of perdition. The false prophet Jesuit Superior General rose to power from land (earth) of Vatican and has created many deceptions. Revelation 14 Points to great harvest during the Protestant Reformation & wrath on Catholic countries who obey antichrist Pope. Revelation 15 Overcoming saints victorious over the beast. Prelude to 7 vials and judgment on those who support Papal Rome. Revelation 16 1st Vial: The foul sore of atheism was poured out on Catholic France, leaving them with no hope, led to revolution. 2nd Vial: The French Revolution started in 1793, killed 250,000, as France had obeyed the Pope and killed saints. 3rd Vial: The French Revolution spread to rural areas of France, where Protestants had been killed in river areas. 4th Vial: The bloody Napoleonic wars shed the blood of countries who had revered and obeyed the antichrist Pope. 5th Vial: Judgment on the seat of the beast. Papal States invaded in 1798, Pope imprisoned, removed from power. 6th Vial: The Turks vast domain dried up, they were only left with Turkey. They lost control of Palestine in 1917 AD, Israel became a nation again in 1948
riolu realizing not only backwards driving, but also driving in slow motion is unfair
The discovery reminds me of how a TAS runner was making a meme run in Pokemon Red/Blue that ended up beating the WR. Turns out the meme strategy was actually pretty good
@KnakuanaRka
9 ай бұрын
Where did you hear of that? You have a link or something?
man, the way you integrate music so well is amazing
@toasted4927
Жыл бұрын
do you know what the outro music is called?
@nightmarathon
Жыл бұрын
@@toasted4927 I don't unfortunately, sorry
@VCTM
Жыл бұрын
@@toasted4927 Daisy and Violets Sideshow by Luella Gren
Personally, I feel like this should just be a separate category on the boards, like how a lot of game have a "no major glitches" category, maybe trackmania could use something similar
@g0stn0te
Жыл бұрын
Yeah that way people can stop crying about their world records getting smoked
I have literally never even tried to play this game, but I still watch all of Wirtual's videos.
i like how Riolu is complaining about backwards driving, but thinks cheating WR is ok
Bouncing off the track and flying across the map at 500 mph, Nadeo: Fine Me drive backwards, Nadeo: WHAT THE FUCK!
@poss420
2 жыл бұрын
also, wiggle
@DarkKeiro
2 жыл бұрын
I think it's because flying and nosebugs requires a shit ton of tries, u can't just pull it out from 1st try, and also u can do it with wheel, gamepad, joystick, keyboard But driving backwards is simple enought and also available only for PC gamepad players Just unfair for all other players, and also, to easy to setup on almost every map
@Charkrai
2 жыл бұрын
@@DarkKeiro fair point. I thought about it from the perspective of absurdity. Driving backwards is something you see everyday, it’s completely normal. However the thought of a sedan driving 500mph, not to mention traveling thousands of feet in the air, is completely absurdist and nearly satirical. Because of that my joke points at the absurd perspective, how Nadeo will hastily update driving backwards as if it was wrong. I understand I’m not considering how the car accelerates rapidly while driving backwards, because it was a joke in a KZread comment and I didn’t care to think too deeply into this. If you’d like to continue this conversation feel free to call me anytime.
6 am on a monday, you're in your office drinking your morning coffee while you prepare for the day's work, alarm goes off, Marius is driving backwards again...
Imagine racing in a NASCAR tournament, and youre in first place, and all of a sudden, someone clearly driving backwards flies past you.
Nice storytelling as always! Awesome to see that you went into some of the other TM environments by covering this bug. Also 11:37 OOF :D
This makes sense to me as a development oversight. In real cars, reverse often has an extremely low gear ratio, providing excellent torque. I'm pretty sure most cars have even lower gear ratio in reverse than in 1st gear. This means reverse should provide the highest torque, which translates to theoretically, extremely high acceleration when you floor it. The problem IRL is that you trade torque for maximum speed. So if you floored it in reverse, yes you'd accelerate very quickly... But only to a very low top speed before you hit the engine's rev limiter. And unlike driving forwards, you dont have a bunch of gear ratios to upshift to, youre stuck with that one very low gear ratio. This is a very intentional design choice by auto manufacturers. Reverse is used almost exclusively for parking, or getting out of parking, which requires low speed precision. This then requires that reverse only has a very low speed regime, meaning changes in throttle position result in very small changes in speed... Which then leads to a very low gear ratio. The extra torque from a low gear ratio is simply an unintended side effect. As a developer, modelling this high acceleration is useful to the player. A dev would expect a player to only use reverse if they've somehow messed up and come to a stop against a wall. High acceleration reverse helps the player very quickly recover, and get back on track to continue the race. ... A development oversight here would be to not model any form of rev limit to the reverse gear... Meaning the digital car can just continue that insanely high acceleration indefinitely to speeds far higher than the better modelled forward gears can achieve. Perhaps the devs didnt think about this, because, well... Who would ever want to drive backwards for longer than a few seconds in a recovery situation? They maybe literally didnt think to limit the maximum speed of reverse, because they didnt envision any situation a player would try using reverse for longer than a couple seconds. ... This does actually break the game, because it means that reverse not only has the best acceleration than any other gear, but also that it has no top end rev limit... Why would you ever want to drive forward, reverse is inherently the fastest way to drive at that point. It's the best of both worlds (unlike the real world, where it's the best of only one).
@renakunisaki
2 жыл бұрын
I get the impression that they modeled it a bit unrealistically (probably to save resources) and just used a quick approximation. They fixed the driving backward thing by adding a rule that as your speed approaches -250 your acceleration falls to 0, but didn't account for being able to turn around while already past that and essentially get negative acceleration. But I'm just guessing. I haven't seen the code or anything.
@TheSultan1470
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@iantaakalla8180
Жыл бұрын
Isn’t backwards movement a common time saving trick anyways, such as the backwards long jump from Mario 64? It is nice to know that cars actually accelerate faster in reverse, but I thought backwards movement was a classic programmer thing to skip limiting entirely and therefore a thing to exploit.
In all fairness Riolu did end up getting all impacted records deleted.. Just not for backwards driving.
Him calling Riolu! the "fairest competitor out there" is kinda funny in hindsight. If only they knew.
I feel like everyone (including myself) finds each video of yours great, without specifying what makes them good, what has changed for the better etc... And I've got to say, the editing in this one is far above the rest, we can clearly see you opted for a different style and it works perfectly. I truly thank you for seeking to make better content every time. Have a great day :D
@Mystixor
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, especially the scene starting at 0:27 was just so perfect with the backwards-facing car rushing on the screen
Love these docu-style, narrated videos. Thanks
Being "fairly new" to the Trackmania scene, I was confused that there were different cars, then I realized those were older games. I had only started with Trackmania 2020. Would be neat to have those diffferent tracks/cars in the current game, if only for casual play.
@michael_aagaard
Жыл бұрын
In one of the older trackmania games, you could download skins for your car.
@iantaakalla8180
Жыл бұрын
Of course earlier games allowed for more customization.
Congratulations on reaching such a nice number of videos!
Amazing video Wirtual, i will remember that going backwards is another way of going forwards
Wow. Awesome! this has got to be one of if not my favourite TM related video since it feels so light and there isn't too much going on all of the time. Just a nice and chill video to relax to. Very upbeat music and good vibes!
Talks about Trackmania 2: *Shows Canyon, Stadium and Valley* Me: WHERE'S LAGOON!
In 2015 for the ZRT Trackmania Cup 3 Zerator (creator of this cup) made a backward map where drifting backwards gave insane speed and that was the purpose of the map called “PB (eternity)” and the cup was on Stadium
This is my favorite TM related Story, love when Marius talks about it
There’s a simple solution you’re all missing. Different categories of world records.. Purist (no shortcuts), Reverse (no plug-in), TAS/‘Riolu!’ and FWO.
@fuydestroyer1942
2 жыл бұрын
Are you defending riolu?
@cy-one
2 жыл бұрын
@@fuydestroyer1942 No, he isn't.
@nameless8692
2 жыл бұрын
@@fuydestroyer1942 Hey, you're that Olympic long jumper!
@fuydestroyer1942
2 жыл бұрын
@@nameless8692 huh
@lethauntic
2 жыл бұрын
@@fuydestroyer1942 I like how someone merely mentioning Riolu's name is enough for you to accuse them of defending him. I don't mean to be rude, but it's pretty obvious that the dude was making a joke there.
Half-Life 2: has accelerated backhopping Trackmania: accelerated backwiggling
Now I like to imagine that the reverse car in "Tenet" was driven by Marius trying to achieve a new PB instead of an inverted person.
"This is so fast" - Riolu, playing Trackmania on regular speed
2:03 it looks like the scene from cars 2 where mater is running from mqueen
This video: *exists* Sir Tow Mater: *smiles*
the funny thing is that when around 11:20 Wirtual talks about the controversy surrounding the new exploit, the person who wrote the blog post about "unfair advantages" is riolu...
I love how the Trackmania games have all the same bugs/oversights as 90s games. We had the wall acceleration,like Doom, now the backward acceleration oversight that lets you BLJ in Mario 64. Tbh so long as it takes skill to master, why bother patching it out?
@LazerWulf
2 жыл бұрын
In the instance of the original backwards driving, I think it was patched out because it DIDN'T take skill to master, just a controller and dxtweak. And aside from being busy with TM2020, the backwards wiggle does require skill, so I think it should be fair game. Also, technically the BLJ was patched out in the Shindou version of SM64, which is the version that got ported for 3D All Stars.
@Freezorgium
2 жыл бұрын
I've thought about this before. New Trackmania titles only "update" the art, sounds and graphics, the game's code for the car physics and everything about the gameplay itself is the same as back in the original except they switch the numbers around for the speed/acceleration/grip/turn rate/grip limit, etc; the gameplay itself is all the same simplistic 90's code since the beginning.
@LazerWulf
2 жыл бұрын
@@Freezorgium True, the actual physics engine doesn't change, only the values they give it, but that's what makes fixing these bugs so easy, if they choose to do so. The fact that they don't except in extreme circumstances is a credit to them just letting the game be the game, warts (read: bugs) and all.
@shurin3126
Жыл бұрын
@@LazerWulf or extreme laziness cause players will take any old shit
@g0stn0te
Жыл бұрын
Right? The people who want it patched are just mad. Deal with the strat or don't.
Amazing quality on a video once again! Love this :D Can't wait for the next video!
@Chocoleater
2 жыл бұрын
how did you watch the video in 3 minutes
@akrinornoname2769
2 жыл бұрын
Mate the video has been out for less than five minutes. You literally can not have watched it entirely.
@bloonsfamily2066
2 жыл бұрын
lmao youtube is completely drunk, thinks that comment is 12 minutes old and replies are 25 minutes old
11:20 riolu talking about "ruining fairness and competition" is the highlight of this video. xD
Driving backwards was also a big glitch in Big Rigs Over the Road Racing, hahaha
11:35 LMAO HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA