I can see a big improvement in performance and sound, sounds more aggressive for sure.

Can't believe I've been watching your videos all these years and never hit the subscribe button 😑 i thought I did at first years ago,this explains why I never got notifications. I've let you down sir.

@49ccscoot

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude!

love your videos keep up the good work

Yesterday was a good day for riding. Merry Christmas bud.

@49ccscoot

4 жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas!

For longer trips i guess your chargline is somewhat low, but for keeping it going its no problem .Your Coil is on the main cirquit and gets his power straigt of the Stator.While your LED maybe overconsumes the Stators chargercoils., This can cause for defective batterys,but aint a problem for keeping on the move on long trips.Nice video like always ,have a good christmastime and lots of new parts.

With a new pipe you will be surprised for how much you can gain on a TPR, I bet over a second on those times you recorded. Merry Christmas from Italy

@49ccscoot

4 жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas!

the people have spoken, multiple times! Time for a exhaust system to really blast dat ass!

@49ccscoot

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I know. As I've said, I've known from the beginning that it's a sort of mismatch. Taking it one step at a time and trying to learn and share what I can. I think that tells more than buying it all and putting it all together at once and then posting how fast it is or isn't.

@artistsunitedfront

4 жыл бұрын

@@49ccscoot I do agree with you though, bolting everything on all at once then trying to figure out how it all meshes together can be a nightmare. I think a good exhaust can do nothing but make your lil set up shred! I don't know if you are on the scootertuning USA face book group but it would be nice to see ya over there. :)

Merry Christmas my friend ! ☃

@49ccscoot

4 жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas!

Merry christmas and happy new year..from malaysia

@49ccscoot

4 жыл бұрын

Happy holidays!

10:47 " 4 stroke unfortunately" lmao

Impressive.

merry christmas Brent! really a great serie regarding MVT !!! the only missing point is a graphic regarding the ignition time, for now we know that it starts about 40deg advanced but no idea how is decreasing with rpm.... we know that is not your fault but gun's fault ;) anyway if you'll find some info keep us updated (please canadian tuners sent to brent a christmas pipe asap!!!!!)

@49ccscoot

4 жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas! I am still hoping to get a timing map figured out for it.

@kevin-hp7vg

4 жыл бұрын

It depend the CDI model you have , but with high rev like 12-13000 trs/min its between 7-10°deg advance

I like you SATAN plate by you garage door. I have a 666 plate on my Suzuki. I have really enjoyed this series.

Merry Christmas!

@49ccscoot

4 жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas! I was wishing I had a Santa suit when I was out test riding yesterday.

@KentRoads

4 жыл бұрын

@@49ccscoot that would have been epic :D

merry Christmas!

@49ccscoot

4 жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas!

What i could hear is that it gets into powerband twice but something chokes it out, the engine sounds healthy but i think either the variator/clutch spring combination, or your exhaust might be out of tune, this was most noticable with the MVT ignition :) Merry Christmas

@49ccscoot

4 жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas!

I believe that if you have used a more lower rpm setting, that would have been more obvious, as an acceleration performance increase.

I installed a mvt millennium on my jog and now my bike makes a whining noise and gets a bit louder with throttle have you had this problem?

Get a malossi Delta Clutch would help you a lot

great video and happy christmas :) i have to ask what speedo are you using ?

@49ccscoot

4 жыл бұрын

Happy Holidays! It's a Trail Tech Vapor. kzread.info/dash/bejne/nGqOwcp6mK2wYrA.html

@mrchilled85

4 жыл бұрын

@@49ccscoot thanks i need to order one as the wife got me some scooter goodies for christmas along with my stem and bars + 3 box's full of bits for my stroker build :)

@49ccscoot

4 жыл бұрын

@@mrchilled85 Nice!

Hi, I’ve been considering getting a Trail Tech Vapor like yours. I see them going for around $100-$120, so do they come with everything one would need to set it up and install? I also noticed there’s Vapors for specificities bikes, which Vapor did you choose?

@49ccscoot

4 жыл бұрын

The Vapor that I went with doesn't seem to be available. You could probably contact them based on your sensor needs and see what they have that's close. kzread.info/dash/bejne/nGqOwcp6mK2wYrA.html

I'm trying to wire the mvt millennium on a yamaha bws and I dont understand the instructions cause there french and there water damaged. So. If someone can help

@49ccscoot

4 жыл бұрын

See if you can find them in this link (the assembly button) and then you should be able to translate in a browser if needed. www.mvt-allumage.com/FR/

Hello @49ccScoot I use the same ignition and i have NO problem at all with my charging. May i ask if you are using both light coils? the sator outputs 12V+ on 2 of the wires.. ( if i remember correct its the yellow and the white/black but im not sure.) Also, i dont think your voltage regulator is working properly because it should not be able to output more than 13.5V, so maybe change to another brand so you dont fry your CDI.

@jonasmader

4 жыл бұрын

I have spliced the two wires together.

@49ccscoot

4 жыл бұрын

@@jonasmader I have both wires going into my regulator/rectifier so they can help to charge the battery and my battery powers the lights. If I switched to AC lighting, I shouldn't have charging issues... but then I'd have a flickering LED. I used AC on all of my small scoots till the last couple of years and now I really like the constant bright light. Trying to stick with DC if possible.

All you need is a buck boost adj voltage supply for that headlight. You can turn it down during the day so it just glows enough to be seen and at night you can have it as bright as you want/need and pick a brightness that agrees with your voltage. That is a huge amount of led light but you know their are more efficient led's. I have a 20 watt light that should be illegal because it will blind anyone within 150 yards instantly leaving you unable to see where you are going so there is no way I could use more, in fact I cannot use it full brightness because it actually blinds me from the back side. 10 bucks for a buck/boost board will solve your problems or rewind that coil with thicker wire and same amount of turns. I used to be scared of winding coils but necessity made me and now I won't hesitate for a moment. I just put a bobbin on the lathe and wind it off to see a broken wire, when I find it I solder it together, put some liquid rubber pliars dip and a piece of tape and wind it back or just redo the whole thing and as long as your enamel is good, you won't have a problem and will learn alot in the process. your videos are so damn awesome bro, I can't imagine anyone argueing with your results as your methods are so consistent and true, but that is the result of them big bucks you pay all those camera people behind the scenes huh?

@49ccscoot

4 жыл бұрын

lol Oh yeah, all those people behind the scenes. I wish. I'll prob look into the voltage supply. I am not however taking apart this encased stator. Maybe if it ever quits working, but for now it can stay sealed.

Im shure that there’s a voltage regulator out there that would work better not saying that the yamaha one isn’t good but it wasn’t made for those specifications !

@49ccscoot

4 жыл бұрын

Probably. My thought was that it's a regulator that is on many scoots that this kit was designed to work with so it should be alright.

Sounds like you over charged the battery maybe and got it hot

Just sharing same thoughts ....what have hit me in video it was ignition at 28 deg. BDC !? That is kind racing adjustments - gas full on or off and that is not much efficient , because crank is on the edge turn backwards, isn't it...What you need is gasoline /air mixture burning at highest efficacy to be like 5 -7 degree after ADC. Gasoline mixture has time frame -from ignition point until is at highest temperature of burning or highest coefficient of its efficiency. It is possible to calculate that ( tray to Google it or I can find link for you ). Great job.

@49ccscoot

4 жыл бұрын

Fuel and air takes a finite amount of time to burn. It's not an explosion. So yeah, you want the peak cylinder pressure to be a bit after TDC, but to do that the fuel has to be ignited before TDC. 28 was what gave me the best results through test and tune. It may have actually done better with more, but I didn't try to go beyond that point. It would have been nice if the CDI backed out timing more at higher RPM to put heat in the exhaust, but it did OK for stock stuff. The MVT has 40-ish degrees of advance and it is harder to start. Runs well once going, but I suspect that it's backing the timing out a lot at higher RPM.

@mobilgin

4 жыл бұрын

@@49ccscoot Looks like I wasn't clear as I tough in my writing ....and you explaining basics for me and there is no what we want. Lets start from "Fuel and air takes a finite amount of time to burn" - is this what I'm talking about. Time of burning it depends on fuel quality as well (witch vary a lot from gas station to gas station) this is why racing fuel exist. This is why with new tank of fuel you will get different result on ignition point adjustment. Off course one of the best situations is to do timing adjustments with a DYNO machine ,but for average result for average fuel quality from the gas station to calculate fuel burning time it give you quite good result.

@49ccscoot

4 жыл бұрын

@@mobilginI understand the idea of calculating time, but conditions vary so much that it's not really possible with a real street ride. If the weather changes and the mixture fattens up a little, then that throws it all off anyway. You could start monitoring altitude density and tuning the carb before every ride with the same canned fuel, but at that point I'll just hop on the TMAX and let something so picky collect dust in a corner. Some level of precision is suited only for racing or dynos IMO. Plus, I've never read anything from top tuners going solely on calculations. At least from things that I read, they generally advise actual testing because there are so many variables. Especially for someone in a regular shop and not sitting on a bank of super computers to so all sorts of modeling.

@mobilgin

4 жыл бұрын

@@49ccscoot well ...each tuner have own toys to play with and same of them even keep it closed to the body from evil eye. You are becoming top tuner your self as well and when you are so up there are no more teachers! Me..just sharing 40 + years of experience.... whis is why 28 deg. BDC took me by surprise..extreme ignition point with uncertain fuel quality and different environmental conditions ( you have self came to same conclusions in previous post).

@49ccscoot

4 жыл бұрын

@@mobilgin That is the problem. Too many people don't share what makes their setups work well. I'll prob never be a top tuner, but whatever I figure out I'm glad to share. I just went with what worked for the 28 degrees. TPR said 20 and I kept advancing to see if I could pick up power. Worked well for me. Might not be so good if I had a setup that revved out much more.

Have you considered a DC to DC converter to keep the battery charged? It would require a buck boost to keep a steady voltage, it can pull the charging system voltage down lower, with more current to output more voltage, it may output more total wattage, slightly more, maybe a pen dimmer can be used with the lights to use less power, they are not actually on constantly, but to the eye it is, it can be seen on camera sometimes, computers use the tech also , the only down side is the light will seem slightly dimmer, there is a few things that can be tried, maybe a capacitor connected to the regulator output, to maintain a more constant DC charging voltage, or maybe use a smaller headlight bulb, or add a 18watt or so driving/ DRL/ fig light, and turn off the headlight when not needed, I guess you have it figyby now, but maybe some suggestions can help improve things further! I guess the only true fix would be to add windings to the stator, if there is room, maybe 24-26 gauge per pole with enough turns to equal the voltage supplied by the existing windings, then parallel , to supply more current at the same voltage, or completely rewind the stator, with slightly thicker wire, say go from 26 gauge to 24 gauge, it would require more room, because more copper would be going on to the stator, just some ideas,,,

@49ccscoot

3 жыл бұрын

I've got it working well enough ATM. One thing that helped the charging a lot was the higher RPM exhaust. With the engine staying revved more, it charges better. The racing ignition doesn't make much power at lower RPM.

I would be very grateful if you could trust me with the tachometer model

@49ccscoot

7 ай бұрын

The small tach that I tried at first is a Trail Tech TTO. The multi-function gauge is a Trail Tech Vapor.

Hello would you buy it again now you know the difference with it? Or would you just stick with what you had?

@49ccscoot

Ай бұрын

I would buy it or another racing ignition again. Much more responsive. Other ignitions may have a better curve with less advance at low RPM (safer), but the MVT has the benefit of charging/lighting output.

@user-dq5cu5jx9m

Ай бұрын

@@49ccscoot yeah thank you for the reply! And also your videos are really helpful you explain what and how you do things really well! Iv literally binged your videos in 24 hours straight! Did you manage to get the 34mm pwk exhaust temps to stay down in the end? Looking forward to the next update video

@49ccscoot

Ай бұрын

@@user-dq5cu5jx9m Thanks! Still working on the PWK. It's not cooperating.

@user-dq5cu5jx9m

Ай бұрын

@@49ccscoot wouldn’t recommend getting a pwk carb then? Haha

@49ccscoot

Ай бұрын

@@user-dq5cu5jx9m Not my favorite, but this is usually my luck.

Pipe !!!!! Come on dude.

@49ccscoot

4 жыл бұрын

I'm getting there. lol

hello, what is the rpm limit of the original ignition?

@49ccscoot

Жыл бұрын

I don't know what the limit is for reliable spark. I've used them up to about 12,000RPM. I have seen people post on the forum about flywheels failing with higher RPM setups. One person tried to use a stock ignition on a Polini Big Evo around 14,000RPM and he went through a couple. Realistically, the racing ignitions offer so much better response and curves for high rev stuff that they should be used anyway.

@raidracing9748

Жыл бұрын

@@49ccscoot OK, I am preparing a TPR 86 for Piaggio and the motorcycle is going to be used for the street and I need it to go with the lights, can you tell me how far to set the original ignition? or is it worth putting the mvt?

@49ccscoot

Жыл бұрын

@@raidracing9748 I would (and did) go with the MVT and mine is street. If you use the TPR pipe it may be alright with the stock setup. I used a timing light and set mine to 20 degrees base IIRC, but it will depend what CDI you have and what the engine likes.

Merry christmas and buy a tuned pipe haha, c30 fit well, kundo f1 too, c21 is OK and r1400 is respectable, i wont really recommend a most86 or 2fast 86 since they are a little too big

@122martin122

4 жыл бұрын

42w headlight is monstruously too big for a mvt dd

@49ccscoot

4 жыл бұрын

@@122martin122 Merry Christmas! They claim 50W, which I should be within with all lights. I don't really want to put much less of a headlight on, because this one works well. I've already hit one deer so the idea of less light at night doesn't sound fun to me.

@122martin122

4 жыл бұрын

@@49ccscoot Carry big capacity battery like lithium and think about charging it after your ride cause 50w is when wide open... like ive build a lot of scooter here in Quebec and we can barely run a waterpum on these, less charging but more power its natural

@49ccscoot

4 жыл бұрын

@@122martin122 I'd think Li batts wouldn't be great right now, simply because they're not supposed to be very tolerant of wild voltage if you expect them to last. That's my understanding anyway, so I'd have to get my voltage under control.

What state are you in 49cc scoot?

@49ccscoot

4 жыл бұрын

MD

Clutch.I also changed to a original clutch,that was a mistake even with same 2000 rpm springs.Too heavy shoes,so you dont get rpm.Naraku racing clutch.The belt destroys with slack contra spring,or same,half/pulley with hardened oil.And you also need the half-pulley part with racing-slide,straight angled before the slide.I got 4-stroke and there are cam-axles A6-10.But you know,accuracy is not used.You must study "FZM stunt team" movies on youtube.They dont care,and make it.

@49ccscoot

4 жыл бұрын

If I get another clutch it will be the S6 most likely, but I want to get more horsepower first... which will mean an exhaust.

@MrSandRune

4 жыл бұрын

@@49ccscoot I use naraku,also half-pulley.There`s a different rule here,so I keep the visible parts original.It`s for disabled,youths and "renegades".But Paris and Hong-Kong has MILLIONS.0 problem to install 90cc naraku,with complete naraku parts.But you will first have to learn the 50cc experience,and copy it to your driving.Its for idiots,faster than R-mc

When are we going to build a Dyno??? A table with a drum with a automotive brake caliper hooked to an air regulator instead of hydraulics??? We could do this!

@49ccscoot

3 жыл бұрын

It has been a thought. Just always on the back of my priorities list. I guess I have more fun judging things by how quick/fast they are and how hard it is to power wheelie.

Too me stock seemed fine get a stage 6 clutch

@49ccscoot

4 жыл бұрын

It was good for it in it's current stage. If you felt it vibrate at 12,000RPM you would not think it's fine for use with a higher revving exhaust later.

@2strokescootertuning248

4 жыл бұрын

@@49ccscoot best clutch is polini evo 3g mutch cheaper and mutch better i use that clutch on all my scoots

Is this ignition available for 4stroke? Gy6?? Would it even make a difference if it is?? There was a guy on YT saying the 1p39qmb us actually 63cc, us this possible? If so that's what I have, I just put a 50mm kit on it, with a head set up for 80cc that I ported, and unshrouded the valves, a look so port matched the intake, and exhaust, best i could, with a aftermarket exhaust and 20 mm carb, I also shimmed the valve springs, installed the A9 cam, I had to buy a new starter, so I'm hoping to get it going tomorrow, I was just curious if there is an ignition that could make a difference, I also have a 1500rpm and 2000rpm clutch and contra spring kit, I haven't gotten any rollers/sliders yet, I want to see how it does first! Great video!

@49ccscoot

3 жыл бұрын

AFAIK MVT does not make an ignition like this for the 139QMB or GY6. You can get smaller and lighter flywheels and there's probably an inner rotor kit out there somewhere. It should improve response and if it had a good ignition curve, that would also be beneficial. NCY, HOCA and SSP-G are the brands I recall that make or made smaller lighter flywheel kits for the 139QMB. Some 1P39QMBs were 63cc. Most are not. The P is proven to not guarantee anything special like a different bore or valve length. It's there to signify a horizontal engine.

its bogging, but merry xmas

@49ccscoot

4 жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas!

The thing its a littlebit pointless, 2ts goes better in cold weather and you cant test it with exact same belts. But its sounds better with the newer ignition.

@49ccscoot

2 жыл бұрын

I've got enough results from before and after in various weather conditions at this point and there's no doubt that the MVT improved acceleration. Aside from that, I have tracked pretty consistent times in various conditions. Riding it before and after would tell you without numbers on paper, but I like to test so I know it's not just my perception.

@erikbalint2904

2 жыл бұрын

@@49ccscoot its straight forward that its better than the modified stock.

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You spend so much time and money, but loose a lot with an not optmized exhaust system

@49ccscoot

4 жыл бұрын

Just building it a little at a time. I know a lot of people think it's silly to ride around with this pipe, but it's a surprisingly good scoot to cruise with. If I took the MVT off so it charged well, I could ride it anywhere I wanted and it's got good manners. Spending the time is about learning and sharing to me.