This is why my grandpa always said "never buy the first few years of a new vehicle, regardless of who makes it. Let everyone else find the weak points". 😂

@michaeldbhawker3556

7 күн бұрын

Exactly. They will fix the issues. Takes time

@MaticTheProto

7 күн бұрын

Honestly? Not the worst advice

@brandonroeder2461

7 күн бұрын

Not bad advice, but this isn't a design problem so much as a manufacturing problem. They can't design an engine to withstand random amounts of randomly sized debris in random places throughout your engine block. 😂

@chandlerbraaten847

7 күн бұрын

@@brandonroeder2461 but its still a problem. And since I didn't run out and buy a tundra I don't have to deal with it. Thats the point. Its not limited to design flaws but also manufacturing processes.

@brandonroeder2461

7 күн бұрын

@@chandlerbraaten847 what you're talking about has to do with new designs, not manufacturing processes that have been used for decades.

Imagine a 70,000 dollar truck grenading on the highway and not one tow hook😂😂😂

@jhardwood6960

24 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 don’t get all them FAN GIRLS upset😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@OhPhuckYou

21 күн бұрын

Yet those Toyota Cultists will whine and complain about every other car. It's amazing how often I'm told how unreliable my Fords are when they give me zero issues. Including a 04 Expedition with 338K. That old girl would start and run like a top every single day with ice cold factory AC, and she looked good while doing it.

@full---movie

19 күн бұрын

I noticed they have no recoveey hooks. And the entire front end is plastic. Toyota is so f*ckin gay, but you soy beards that love them.

@ButterfatFarms

16 күн бұрын

If you're going to tow your new truck back to the dealer with the help of your redneck buddy using his pickup truck I guess that might matter? 😂

@ButterfatFarms

16 күн бұрын

Comment might make more sense if you were lamenting grenading your truck off-highway...

This is a great video to send my X in answer to her suggestion “Why don’t you just go buy a new vehicle instead of fixing your old cars?” New cars have their own problems which prevent them becoming old cars!

Moral of the story: double, triple, quadruple check your engines.

@Brukner841

22 сағат бұрын

happens to the best of 'em

@jesusisking8502

13 сағат бұрын

@@Brukner841 Modern day junk. The T-Model ford is still running today.

@Brukner841

11 сағат бұрын

@@jesusisking8502 it's encumbered by too many requirements and restrictions while having to produce about the same power as 100 of the primitive model T engines.

@brucedeleskey8540

11 сағат бұрын

The more you spend today the more problems you have 15years ago you spent less than half and had. No problems

Now we can say that Toyota is a true American manufacturer, since they unlocked the "build a truck that grenades itself in under 10k miles" achievement.

@clapclapscream

16 күн бұрын

No because they actually stand behind their product and do recalls

@IKhanNot

15 күн бұрын

@@clapclapscream Right now they are finding every excuse not to take in a truck that has a grenaded engine. Toyota dropped the ball hard on this both during manufacturing and after sale care.

@JacobSmith-xo8sm

14 күн бұрын

@@clapclapscreamwrong. Toyota isn't even sending crate engine replacements. By warranty they are only replacing the block, meaning your mechanic has to strip the old block to assemble the new one. Recipe for disaster.

@mikeo8869

13 күн бұрын

At least the door didn’t fly off When they were drive to the supermarket 😂

@jerryjeromehawkins1712

13 күн бұрын

Traded in a lemon Tacoma... (we called it the Lemona 🍋) for an F150 5.0. This F150 is at 89k with zero issues since new. That Tacoma proved to me how far Toyota will go to NOT acknowledge a problem. Getting them to stand behind their warranty was an absolute struggle. Someone once said Toyota is Japanese for "Class Action Lawsuit... so true. All those rusted out frames Toyota had to replace years ago? Toyota finally stepped up to the plate after multiple class action lawsuits. People act like Toyota cares about them... lol, what a joke. Toyota just moved their Tacoma production to Mexico... yet they are asking even MORE for the truck while the consumer is getting LESS. Stop acting like the people who think Subaru is all about peace and love ✌🏾... these are companies trying to make the largest profit possible. 😅

Put that v8 back in it!

@franksmythe6969

24 күн бұрын

The size of the engine and number of cylinders has nothing to do with it. It was Machining debris and it could have happened to any engine.

@x0xCRUSHERx0x

24 күн бұрын

Same shit with the kia motors. Mine was just replaced at 117k for the same reason! Good motor design but theyre too busy with quantity over quality and hipe most people arent frugal and make them hold thier end of the deal when the rod bearing goes due to oil starvation!​@franksmythe6969

@Lancer_0010

24 күн бұрын

@@franksmythe6969 okay. Still, put the V8 back in it

@franksmythe6969

24 күн бұрын

@@Lancer_0010 Why? Do you enjoy getting worse fuel economy with less power? That seems odd.

@Tecate250r-hf9ks

23 күн бұрын

@@franksmythe6969 I’d rather have my truck spend more time at the pump then in the shop

So, the guys who do an oil change after buying a new car, then another at a few hundred miles, then another at a thousand kinda have the right idea.

@spvillano

20 сағат бұрын

A few dozen miles, do you mean? :/

@zakpike4582

14 сағат бұрын

Bro what I've been a mechanic for 15 years I've never had that happen I've seen old people that put 28 miles on it in a year want an oil change but not what your talking about

@zugzug6773

14 сағат бұрын

@@zakpike4582 The guy believed there was metal in the engine and so the first few hundred to a thousand miles he changed it a bunch of times. After that just changed at normal intervals.

@zakpike4582

14 сағат бұрын

@@zugzug6773 bro you don't have to lie to kickit

@zugzug6773

13 сағат бұрын

@@zakpike4582 Since that makes no sense, I can only assume your high.

Sure am glad I kept both of my 5.7 V8 Tundras.

@doomslayerforever2858

Күн бұрын

my dads is rusting the fk out. well the engine looks great the frame and stuff all rusted out 2008.

@Dmx284

7 сағат бұрын

​@@doomslayerforever28582008😂 bro it's made of steel and iron not vibranium.

@northcarolina263

7 сағат бұрын

Yeah, 2013 is the newest I would ever go. My 07’ 5.7 scsb is holding up very well, rust is creeping up on it but it’s at a preventative level still.

So, a company that has been building reliable engines for longer than I have been alive, suddenly forgets how to properly clean a block after the casting process. This is why you NEVER believe the official story.

@alistairlewis2461

21 күн бұрын

So true. Head shaking stuff. That machining BS is unbelievable. It’s a basic. What? Making engines in Bangladesh now?

@Keefer24

21 күн бұрын

Made in Mexico lol

@col.cottonhill6655

19 күн бұрын

DEI hires

@Dogpool

18 күн бұрын

@@alistairlewis2461I like watching videos of people in places like Pakistan machining stuff on the side of the street with a dirt floor and strategically bent bit of metal to substitute as measuring calipers. Maybe that’s where the engines are getting done now

@alexgrindnshine2522

16 күн бұрын

Toyota engines commonly have a lot of issue when first released. Their engines become reliable over time with more refinement.

The sound of screaming in Japanese must’ve been epic.

@jcnunny

4 күн бұрын

Hope the V8 comes back before harakiri does.

@mikemccarthy6939

4 күн бұрын

Yea ok

@rustyshackleford3320

3 күн бұрын

It's say 2 replies, yet I see 0. Must been 2 honest

@jcnunny

3 күн бұрын

@@rustyshackleford3320 can you translate that to something comprehensible?

@TellURide447

2 күн бұрын

Lol

350k miles on my V8 Tundra with nothing besides oil changes, tires and brakes.

@lilcc736

4 сағат бұрын

toyota 🥹

The best thing Toyota could do right now is come out and acknowledge their mistake in jumping on the turbo V6 bandwagon, and immediately start offering the 5.7 V8 again. Then let the market decide what it wants.

@shadowhound5113

2 күн бұрын

I would love a hybrid v8.

@caseytodd7632

2 күн бұрын

@shadowhound5113 Bingo. Toyota have all but perfected hybrid technology, considering how far the Prius has come and for how long its been in production. That's exactly what they should have done. Smaller displacement V8, maybe based on their tried and true 4.7L, plus a hybrid battery. Probably would have been good for 25+ mpg and 500+hp/tq.

@koomo801

2 күн бұрын

They can't bring back the 5.7 due to emission regulations. (They didn't do the twin-turbo V6 for economy.)

@caseytodd7632

2 күн бұрын

@koomo801 oh I know.. its the EPA and the government doing it. If anything, they should have updated their bulletproof 4.7 V8 that used to come in the 4Runner and 1st gen Tundra, that was still used in some Lexus SUVs, updated it and turned it into a hybrid. That is a million mile engine, plus it's smaller displacement and if you paired it with a Prius style hybrid battery system... you got a 25mpg/400hp/500tq plus RELIABLE drive train. Toyota has all but perfected the hybrid system. They really screwed up jumping on the TT V6 bandwagon.

@koomo801

2 күн бұрын

@@caseytodd7632 Agreed. My 25 year old '00 Tundra V8 has had one coil go bad. That's it. Too bad the EPA and the horsepower wars are forcing their hands.

As a Toyota tech. It’s way more than 100k. Thats just 22-33 models. 2024 are also coming in blown up

@03protegeES

22 күн бұрын

What are you thoughts on it only applying to the non-hybrid models? I'm thinking those would have the same issue they just didn't hit the recall due to not losing all power because of the hybrid motor.

@northerntoyota7584

12 күн бұрын

@@03protegeESthe hybrids aren’t included because the electric motor can get you to safety if the engine fails. Recalls are forced because of safety.

@Lakeman3211

10 күн бұрын

22-23 models yes?

@AtZero138

10 күн бұрын

Remember.. in the Movie FIGHT CLUB, when he's explaining, Law Suit ratio vs Death or injury, if it's worth doing a official Recall.. Once they have agreed to bite the bullet and declare a Recall is needed.. like the Dude (Technician) said it's a higher number..

@SolamenteVees

9 күн бұрын

Wait, you mean to tell me Toyota knows more about their own product than a KZreadr?

So for those who dont know, blocks are cast in sand and often with styrofoam acting as a part of the mold as well. Once cast they cool down get the sand bits vibrated off and some simple cleaning, then on to machining where the parts like bearings and all the threaded holes are machined in, this leaves tons of chips and some sand from casting. They use to black cleaning solution through every passage something that took a few min per block to hook up and run through the giant dishwasher. Accountants saw this as a labor intensive step and decided just to toss them in the industrial dishwasher without directly cleaning the oil and coolant passages. This is what cause all those kia engines to blow up. And now toyota of all companies are doing that toxic cheap trait

@theworldisastage1984

3 күн бұрын

Sure thing buddy. You love to defend the official narrative

@Luggruff

2 күн бұрын

The irony in this situation is quite striking given Toyota's history with the Toyota Production System (TPS). TPS is renowned for its emphasis on quality, continuous improvement, and the elimination of waste. It’s ironic that a company which pioneered such meticulous standards in manufacturing is now facing issues due to cost-cutting measures that directly contradict those principles. The decision to skip a critical cleaning step to save labor costs leading to significant quality failures, is a big departure from the core values that made Toyota a benchmark in the industry.

@samwich539

2 күн бұрын

ITS ALWAYS THE FUCKIN BEAN COUNTERS

@Professor-Scientist

2 күн бұрын

@@samwich539they rule the world

@cwj2733

2 күн бұрын

@@theworldisastage1984then what is the real narrative if u don’t mind me asking?

Machining debris wouldn't exclusively damage the main bearing. Also I find it hard to believe both Japan and US factories making the engines would miss machining debris, especially Japan, for a hundred thousand engines.

@neemanon

Күн бұрын

It would if the debris clogged the oil lines. Happened to Hyundai/Kia in their 2.4 NA and 2.0T engines.

My 2011 Tundra and 2015 Sequoia have the 5.7L. I test drove one of the new ones to see what I was missing. I know it supposed to have more power on paper, but it felt much more sluggish than either of my older vehicles.

Don’t think it’s debris in the engine. It kills the same bearing on all the engines. It’s a bad batch of bearings or flawed main bearing caps/design.

@aprescoups4593

15 күн бұрын

Same. I don’t think they want to admit it was a bearing issue

@herlegz6969

9 күн бұрын

Always the exact same bearing fails? It could be debris that is occurring on a specific drill path leading to this bearing. Some drill/CNC/port not getting properly flushed or worse keeping debris in that port/spot. Manufacturing has so many details that can get missed when whipping by MBA coin changers going on.

@floorpizza8074

6 күн бұрын

Yeah, whoever thought it was a good idea to mass manufacture a bearing with tolerances so tight it requires 0w-20 oil???

@markmaker2488

6 күн бұрын

And engines from two different plants have the same machining debris issues. I call bs

@NigelTolley

6 күн бұрын

The engines are identical, from different CNC machines in different plants. The flaw is therefore identical across every engine. Why you have to see a conspiracy in everything, I don't know.

This reminds me of a problem Isuzu had with the mid 1980s Trooper II. Cylinder heads were failing because machining debris was blocking oil channels.

I think cars should have chip detectors in the engine and transmission just like aircraft do. It’s essentially a small gap of two magnets, if any metallic particles are loose in the oil the particles attach and bridge the gap of the detector and illuminate a light telling you there is metal in your oil.

5.7L for life🎉

@williamkunte5361

28 күн бұрын

Even 4.6! Much better ergonomically.

@JAMESWUERTELE

27 күн бұрын

1GR-FE for life

@franksmythe6969

24 күн бұрын

The size of the engine and number of cylinders has nothing to do with it. It was machining debris, and it could have happened to any engine.

@yeyis05

23 күн бұрын

EV for life 🌱 🍃 🌲

@icosthop9998

22 күн бұрын

Yes

That excuse by Toyota is the biggest bullshit I’ve ever heard. It’s a poor design. And the story.

@sm65-wj2bc

23 күн бұрын

Yep

@seanb9698

17 күн бұрын

I think you mean end of story lol

@slabbusterrtr7690

15 күн бұрын

Making a V6 do the work of a V8 what I mean making same route and HP as a V8 alot of stress on the V6 that's why they failing it high RPM making that kinda power from a V6 comes at a cost in the long run

@albapantheratigris6071

11 күн бұрын

​@@slabbusterrtr7690Literally the basics of turboing any car. Unfortunately its a 360 win for manufactures and government. Car gets better emissions, better performance and dies quicker so they can get you paying that car note more.

@randallsmerna384

11 күн бұрын

* End

"Lets build them in Mexico, we'll save a fortune!! Ahh, Mr George, we have a massive recall"...

@brianmaietta

3 күн бұрын

i believe they make these engines in WV

@dystopia-usa

3 күн бұрын

Doesn't matter where it is built these days - it matters what the current corporate culture is on quality/durability & sadly neither Toyota or Honda are the same companies that they used to be in that regard. My new 2020 Japan-built Toyota was the worst vehicle that I have owned in 40+ years & 11 different new Toyota, Honda & Acura vehicles during that time. Purchased my first Mazda in 2022 (built in Mexico, CX-30 CE) & no problems or defects to report going on 2.5 years owned/driven now.

@mp2764

3 күн бұрын

@@dystopia-usaagreed. The machines are mostly doing the building. I thing a big problem is that companies engineer things to break after a sufficient amount of time so you can buy a new one instead of using technological advancement to build something that lasts

@jorgefloyd6989

3 күн бұрын

😂 because being built in the 🇺🇸 by the lowest bidder are the best 👍

@gyishin

3 күн бұрын

​@@dystopia-usait absolutely matters where it's built. These are built in the US. US has always had lesser build quality. Why I wouldn't but a new Honda or Toyota product unless it came from Japan.

That’s why I’ll just keep my 2003 v8 tundra

@mmm-rd4yr

12 сағат бұрын

2003 look ugly

@madeirafonseca6383

9 сағат бұрын

@@mmm-rd4yr They look beautiful when they're driving past a broken down vehicle on the side of the road.

V8 is greatest motor ever built in human history

I wasn’t sure how that Boeing/Toyota partnership was going to go.

@gtmaniacmda

2 күн бұрын

imagine being stranded on the side of the road because your new Toyota's engine blew up just for the emergency exit door of a Boeing 737 MAX to come crashing down and hit your car

I have the Sequoia with the iForce 5.7 V8. I talked to a guy who had traded his in almost a year ago, for the new model with the V6tt. He said it is great for reducing gasoline expense in low speed and low weight situations; however towing his dump trailer, camper, or boat take more fuel than the V8 did. He said highway speeds (65ish) gave about the same mileage as the V8. He wanted his old one back. 😂

1996 single cab Tacoma 2.4 , 4 banger, k332 and still going strong

At least Toyota claims this is what’s causing the issue. I’ve read about 2024 models experiencing the same problem so expect this recall will expand. Toyotas quality as of late has been disappointing.

@ifihadsmesumchicken6276

22 күн бұрын

because the workers are tired of being slaves.

@lrobie123

4 күн бұрын

Covid ruined them

@AJ-ox9xj

3 күн бұрын

You need to buy their models built in Japan. American built quality vehicles are bad no matter the brand. Japan is stricter with quality control.

@alexturnbackthearmy1907

2 күн бұрын

@@AJ-ox9xj Yeah, american "quality" is truly legendary by now.

@ericwright6672

2 күн бұрын

They better get it right again or people will be dropping them altogether like hot potatoes!

A symptom of an overall decline in QA Inspections, Employee Working/Living Standards, and the work ethic/attitude of working class people everywhere. Glad to see the Fortune 500s aren't immune, hopefully standards are raised for both Employee Compensation and Quality Control.

Crazy how they went from the 1JZ/2JZ which were super reliable to this. They should have kept on rolling them straight 6's out

GM would just shrug their shoulders and stick more plastic on the engine.

@cars654

4 сағат бұрын

?? This is about Toyota not GM ! My Chevy has 200 k and runs great ! Suck on that fanboy for Toyota !

Didn’t have this problem with the old 5.7. Time to get back to basics.

@richardcranium3579

7 күн бұрын

4.6 all day

@chadhaire1711

7 күн бұрын

Japan didn't have this V-6 issues until made in USA

@Juho-uf8si

6 күн бұрын

there is alot everything else that old rust bucket didnt have XD

@br9760

6 күн бұрын

The engine is fine. Whoever was in charge of machining screwed up BAD.

@97Crazysteve

6 күн бұрын

That 5.7 was recalled quite a bit when it was new too. Folks got real short memories.

Kia and Hyundai said the same thing about their 2.4 liter engines that were coming in with the #3 rod sticking out the side of them. It eventually ended up as a recall and that was their official story was “machining debris” which had wiped out that particular bearing. Nobody at the dealers that had taken one of those engines apart believed that.

@CSMSteel7

11 күн бұрын

Don’t spread misinformation. Early on, we had to disassemble and inspect for a cause before the recall was launched. Definitely debris from the U.S. manufacturing facility that did not properly flush the block and oil galleries.

@lrich8181

5 күн бұрын

Kia and Hyundai are replacing the entire engines...not rebuilding them.

@CSMSteel7

5 күн бұрын

@@lrich8181 Correct. Only very early on did the district service reps require a teardown. Initially it was a short block and balancer assembly replacement, but it just became a long block replacement later.

@DeepakKumar-lv4te

4 күн бұрын

@@lrich8181 That's because no one can rebuild those engines, they're trash. go and ask an engine builder if they will rebuild a kia/hyundai engine - if they say yes it's because they have no work, but they know the rebuild will fail.

@zenkiz33

5 сағат бұрын

We still get a ton of K5s with blown engines too. If the problem was debris why isn't it fixed?

Imagine car manufacturers forcing unreliable vehicles down our throats for triple the cost because the WEF demands it.

1. Good on Toyota for sending out the recall 2. GIMME BACK THE INDESTRUCTIBLE V8 DX

It's a great truck, I've owned six over the last 27 years and this is my favorite. If they fix the issue on recall I'm fine, I'm not going to worry about it. Fantastic truck.

More evidence is pointing to it being a bad main bearing design. The machining debris reason is a smoke screen for the design not being good.

@CSMSteel7

11 күн бұрын

Same debris problem that Hyundai had with their U.S. produced engines.

@Chris-te7uk

5 күн бұрын

It's a "zero" weight oil problem. Use 5W-30 oil, and all of these "manufacturing defects" go away. Plain bearings (rod and main bearings) NEED a cushion of oil to ride on, and 0W-20 or even worse, 0W-08 oil simply isn't sufficient. This is the fault of government and EPA regulations...not poor design. The car manufacturers are NOT allowed to tell you that tho. Machinist and mechanical engineer of 35 years.

@rand49er

5 күн бұрын

@@Chris-te7uk I’m a mechanical engineer and been for 52 years. My emphasis was internal combustion engines. I’ve tested the on engine dynos and conducted research on them. Though other manufacturers specify 0W-20 oil, they haven’t seen anywhere near as much bearing failure that these 3.4L TT Toyota engines have seen.

@CSMSteel7

5 күн бұрын

@@Chris-te7uk The U.S. produced blocks in were not getting flushed properly after machining. We received a technical service bulletin for the inspection process, reasons why, and photos of what debris to look for.

Ford and GM would blame the customers and hold off any recalls until the Federal Government gets involved.

@Falcon-mc5fs

25 күн бұрын

Toyota did that too

@jacksmack6956

24 күн бұрын

Toyota meat rider ignoring what Toyota has done.

@solvend

22 күн бұрын

Toyota limited it to under 100k knowing they'll extend that to early to late made 23s as well. Toyota held back to make it seem less of a problem than it really is

@MELOMEOUT

21 күн бұрын

Have you bought a toyota recently, when you make any warranty claim, they retake days to approve it, and act like it's never happened, worst ever.😂

@OhPhuckYou

21 күн бұрын

Cope harder.

I’ve been an automotive technician for over 21 years. I work for a luxury European brand. A few years ago we started having machining debris issues, causing engine damage. In fact we still are dealing with it, though now it’s causing cooling system issues. I have it on very good authority, that other manufacturers have been dealing with this issue as well. In fact this is the first I’ve heard of the issue with Toyota and before you even stated what it was I was thinking to myself “machining debris.” I’ve heard the reason this all started and why it’s affecting multiple brands is because of new environmental rules/laws that pushed auto makers to conserve water and reduce harsh chemical usage. This resulted in reduced and or less effective cleaning after the machining processes. Don’t get me wrong, the new law is a noble goal, but until this issue gets sorted, I’m quite positive that all the failing engines, clogged cooling systems, and other unintended consequences are likely doing far more harm to the environment then the old way was. Assuming they can get this cleaning/flushing debris removal issue solved while still conserving water and reducing chemicals, then that’s good. I hope they can do that, but if my brand is any indicator, I ain’t gonna hold my breath.

Old school Toyota would've never!!

Debris in the engine makes no sense since the affected engines are produced in Japan and the US (Alabama). The bearing assembly in question is made by the same manufacturer and sold to both of the assembly plants. The question is whether it’s a bad batch or a bad design.

@hermanpeters549

24 күн бұрын

Not in hybrid models so could be just a bad batch

@Walterrinho

23 күн бұрын

I have heard that the blocks are made in the same place, basically it was a machining debries that didnt get cleaned.

@frankmoreno730

23 күн бұрын

Bad design

@VroodenTheGreat

23 күн бұрын

@@hermanpeters549 Are you suggesting they hybrid models don't have the same engine in them?

@Walterrinho

23 күн бұрын

@@VroodenTheGreat the recall says that those hybrid models have different pressure on the bearings for some reason, and also have electric power in case of a engine stall/stop.

The Toyota reliability huh? Don’t get me wrong because historically yes… but the fan boys are insufferable.

@jimbojim-pe5oj

27 күн бұрын

If a bmw ain’t leaking, it’s bc it doesn’t have oil

@jeanclaude7018

26 күн бұрын

Titan sounds like a far better bet.

@mten1454

24 күн бұрын

4.6 and 5.7 weren’t without issues early in their life-cycle either. Chill out

@VroodenTheGreat

23 күн бұрын

@@mten1454 You tell him to chill out, but you are agreeing with him that these engines aren't reliable. Make it make sense.

@mten1454

23 күн бұрын

@@VroodenTheGreat I never said they were or weren’t great, you’re putting words in my mouth. Tf? Your response makes no sense. We’re obsessed with shitting on this engine and lauding the 4.6 and 5.7 when in reality they also had issues early on. Make that make sense.

I hate it for owners, but Toyota is trying to fix their problem. It takes time. They didn't drag it on and ignore it like some folks.

love em or hate em you can’t tell me toyota doesn’t care about there customers. they are arguably the best brand when it comes to recalls. they often offer the recalls for tens of years

Nice work Toyota ,pulled that right out of the Hyundai playbook. 😅

@Jonathan_Doe_

2 күн бұрын

Fortunately they’ve caught it at 100k potentially affected vehicles… Instead of burying their heads in the sand until it was over a million like Hyundai/Kia.

@dominicg2456

2 күн бұрын

@@Jonathan_Doe_ You're forgetting that those vehicles made by Hyundai/Kia had this issue, but the machinging debris was much smaller than in Toyotas, which is why the Hyundai/Kia engines were blowing up much much later in life, after many vehicles had already been produced. TL;DR: Toyota is addressing it now because the engine failures are happening now. Hyundai/Kia addressed it late because the engine failures started happening late.

@hacklaurent9412

2 күн бұрын

​@dominicg2456 people don't seem to understand how recalls work, and don't understand engines for mass produced cars are not hand built so things will be missed. Which is different from a design flaw

@user-qq7of6ct7t

2 күн бұрын

I had a Hyundai that came out of the Alabama plant by Montgomery when they had those Honduran kids working and the engines from that plant had metal shavings in the engine clogging oil lines and the engine blew because of it and they were supposed to replace the engine but fought me about it

Don’t worry those 100,000 engines that they rebuilt at the dealer will be every bit as good as built at the factory…

@danielkiss7003

8 күн бұрын

I would never let a dealer rebuild my engine They can't even do basic mantainance properly

@stuartstogdill2406

3 күн бұрын

Not even remotely possible, lol. Great joke!

@Nobody_important_at_all

2 күн бұрын

as a Toyota tech, lol. Toyota is trying to figure out the cheapest way to do the recall right now rather than what should be a complete long block engine replacement for everything the metal contaminated oil touches. I bet the procedure boils down to replacing a bearing on most engines, an oil flush with a few filter changes and an announcement on a 'warranty enhancement' of the engine that extends it for another 100k should the condition present itself.

@AlexandarHullRichter

2 күн бұрын

honestly they should be or there's no point tearing them down. don't bother rebuilding it if you're not the make you make it good as new!

@ComicusFreemanius

Күн бұрын

@@Nobody_important_at_all cams are destroyed too probably. Don't know much about turbo but probably that too.

The worst part is their warranty strategies on this.. Your mechanic need to strip the engine down to remove and send the problematic part. idk about most people but i don't want my under 20k engine to be rebuilt, without mentioning the skill of your mechanic will greatly influence the reability of your new truck for years now

Machining debris doesn't wait 3000 miles.

Ahh machining debris. My Tacoma has a recall for, “welding slag” that can cause axle separation and apparently an airbag clock-spring issue as well. I also discovered the bed is shifted like 1/2” to one side of the cab. Didn’t notice until I saw my RTT wasn’t centered despite knowing I centered the fuck out of it. Also mag props to Tinkerers Adventure, from one engineer (electrical tho) to another that guy is legit.

Metal filings on oil means the engine is junked and needs to be replaced.

@bluesky-ud9wg

23 күн бұрын

All of it, long block, turbos, etc, any port oil flows...

@justinstewart3248

20 күн бұрын

Or we can just not drive combustion cars for much longer. Too many moving parts and too much maintenance.

@bluesky-ud9wg

20 күн бұрын

@@justinstewart3248 That will never happen. Oil runs the planet

@trumptookthevaccine1679

11 күн бұрын

@@justinstewart3248please go drive the battery cars and leave us alone

@AntilleanConfederation

10 күн бұрын

@@justinstewart3248😂😂 🫵🏼🤡

Trust me as a Engine manufacturer Toyota knew about this issue in the pepap process. It finally got large enough they had to make the recalls

All of us old V8 owners are about as smug as can be.

That's why being ultra brand-loyal is futile. Toyota does indeed build good vehicles, but all of the sudden they have the worst full size truck on the market. My Silverados never blew up, and now I own a Subaru. Brand loyalty will blind you to a vehicle's issues.

@cwx8

8 күн бұрын

They build mediocre vehicles and haven't built anything amazing in a decade. Toyota drivers don't like to drive so the vehicles aren't driven hard hence why a lot of the perception is that they are reliable still.

@bvictory5698

8 күн бұрын

Or… just don’t buy them brand new, wait a few years and let the kinks work out. Buy one partially used w low miles a few years after they come out, get basically a brand new truck for half the price and know it’s not a time bomb.

@bvictory5698

8 күн бұрын

@@cwx8we don’t like to drive?? lol. Son I put 40 miles on my tundra a day. Some days I drive triple that. The real issue is people buy them that can’t afford to go anywhere while they make payments, and payments for aftermarket parts…too many people live beyond their income bracket. People don’t buy Toyota trucks to let them sit. They aren’t super cars and they aren’t track cars, we buy them to work and have fun.

@cwx8

8 күн бұрын

@@bvictory5698 I mean drive. Not causally get from point a to point b. Toyota's don't exactly get stressed.

@bzilla1090

7 күн бұрын

They had 4 million vehicles recalled last year. They're on par with nissan now

Good for the recall, bad for only providing a short block and making the dealerships tear the whole truck apart. Not exactly a controlled and repeatable process. I guess the paperwork says, your mileage may vary....as well as the reliability.

@bobbamford5207

20 күн бұрын

You'd probably be amazed at how little the tech will get paid to replace the short block. If anything goes wrong shortly after he'll fix it for no pay. The world of flat rate.

@treborheminway3814

20 күн бұрын

@@bobbamford5207 yeah, I'd like to know the hours and rate Toyota thinks is fair. Dealerships and customers should demand better.

@bobbamford5207

20 күн бұрын

@@treborheminway3814 I worked for Toyota as a Tech then an MDT. Took all schools. Never saw a video or any thing relating to establishing flat rate times. A woman pulls the times out of thin air. Knowing the Techs can either like it or lump it. It's called taking one for the team when you get screwed out of your pay. If you don't like that soon you're down the road and they hire in another sucker to take one for the team.Get It?

@tellucas

8 күн бұрын

My problem with a short block is that if it blows again does the manufacturer or the dealership take the hit and fix it, i see potential for finger pointing. Plus given the size of the recall Toyota should set up a separate engine line and do remanufactured long blocks so it's plug and play at the dealership.

TESTING TESTING TESTING no time for RESTING X you make my FATHER very UPSET boy!!

Respect to them for atleast fixing the issue and not leaving everyone to fix it themselves like other brands

This is why you don't go replacing a reliable v8 with a v6 no matter what the EPA has to say about it.

@randallsmerna384

11 күн бұрын

Well, I think the EPA has some say about it...

@lactusgalacto1174

10 күн бұрын

V 6 with turbos.😂

@jacobwrona

10 күн бұрын

@@lactusgalacto1174 "reliable" is the key word.

@kingssuck06

9 күн бұрын

@@randallsmerna384depends on what happens in November

@juraj_b

9 күн бұрын

V8 to V6 has nothing to do with it

I believe the block is twisting under load in the heavier vehicles causing the crank to do sum shifting in the main caps

@SteveEddy-od7fb

5 күн бұрын

Yes 5448 aluminum engine blocks do warp a bit under heat and stress race cars have aluminum blocks but In the boring pedestrian world cast iron engine blocks are more practical

Anyone who bought a Corolla last year is happy they have a very old, very understood design. Those things will never die.

I actually work at the Toyota factory and can safely say the reason is actually me. I sprinkled the debris into all the engines I got my hands on and the engineers are none the wiser!!!! >:)

@michaeldalton8374

3 күн бұрын

Good job! You get a promotion!!

"It's not for the reason that you think"... I have put zero thought into this and have no thoughts on the matter.

@rumoara

Күн бұрын

We are united 😂

Where, at what company was the failure? Toyota or a sub contractor?

They need to bring back the 4.7l V8 that was in the SR5 trims, that was a bulletproof engine if there ever was one.

@donovanchilton5817

6 күн бұрын

That motor hasn’t been made since 2009. It wouldn’t meet emissions standards

@jamesbosworth4191

3 күн бұрын

It can be brought into compliance. It is the same basic engines be as the 5.7 engine.

@michaeldalton8374

3 күн бұрын

You don’t sell new vehicles if the old ones are going forever.

@michaelbenardo5695

3 күн бұрын

@@michaeldalton8374 Lot of truth to that, especially with trucks.

@Blitzkrieg_Wolf

2 күн бұрын

@@michaeldalton8374 You'll also go into bankruptcy if your long term goal is to sell crap vehicles and expect no one to look elsewhere for their transportation needs, Toyota know their vehicles are still ticking even after being in literal war and conflicts in the middle east for nearly 4 decades.

There was a time when manufacturers would put their engines in a few vehicles and put a million miles on said vehicles before the engine was sold.

Oh goody, another Hyundai/Kia saga. Except that Toyota is actively trying to make it right.

@flaco2746

28 күн бұрын

The funny thing is. Metal shavings from machining was Kia’s exact same excuse when they found out about their engines

@JAMESWUERTELE

27 күн бұрын

@@flaco2746that’s a great point

@zeropointzero

27 күн бұрын

@@flaco2746 but in reality, something's wrong with the metallurgy.

@philhenderson3516

27 күн бұрын

Excuse me but these issues have been happening since 2018, ever since this 3.4 turbo V6 engine debuted in the LS500. Multiple threads in the Lexus forums with failure going back to 2018, and in some cases with 2 or 3 engine replacements! Toyota kept ignoring it on purpose to buy time and to see with just how much they could get away with. If it weren't for the NHTSA opening an investigation, Toyota wouldn't have done a "voluntary" recall. Every giant car manufacturer is evil, greed is their motto, whether it be GM, Ford, Hyundai, Stellantis, Toyota, or Honda. Support the smaller manufacturers.

@MR-si1eq

22 күн бұрын

I guess we'll see how right they actually get. Sad that all our cars Toyota, Honda, Ford and so on are all turning out to be high priced junk.

I was ready to buy a full-size Toyota pick up with a V-8 right when they did away with the V-8. I have no interest in a V6 TwinTurbo from any manufacturer. The used V-8 Toyota trucks are impossible to find because now everyone wants one.

@Madddog87

2 күн бұрын

Cummins swap

@TucoDog-ho6fw

2 күн бұрын

@@Madddog87 I had a Duramax/Allison GMC And decided I really didn’t need a diesel, so I didn’t keep it very long. Luckily I never had the wimpy pin in the crankshaft fail. I have to run with a gas powered V-8 is what suits me best.

@damondiehl5637

Күн бұрын

They are not impossible to find. I can see a dozen of them on Autotrader. What is harder to find is one that isn't black, white or grey. I just bought a red 2020 Tundra last month.

@TucoDog-ho6fw

Күн бұрын

@@damondiehl5637 Anything but red for me. 😂 Thanks for responding to my comment. If I get serious I imagine I can find one but I am an old codger at this point so I’ll be looking for something that’s fairly local. The way I understand it these manufacturers with all the models they produce have to achieve the highest miles per gallon average through the whole line, so of course they’re gonna cut the V-8’s every chance they get.

@Drewcardello

Күн бұрын

get a ford f150 with the 5.0 coyote v8 if you can't find any old tundras.

As bulletproof and reliable as Toyota has been for decades, I'll trust that they'll make this right, and continue to make quality cars and trucks.

Quality control is a real thing

Trust NO ONE, question EVERYTHING.

@GC-nd1lp

5 күн бұрын

I don't trust you on that....

@ricequackers

5 күн бұрын

Why?

@GIGABACHI

5 күн бұрын

@@GC-nd1lp you just proved my point, thanks. 👍

@GIGABACHI

5 күн бұрын

@@ricequackers why not ? 🤔

@evergreenrider

4 күн бұрын

Who's going to investigate the investigators?

That engine, from what I understand, is made in the USA and in Japan. Both countries manufacturers are making the engines incorrectly? I don't know about that.

@Walterrinho

23 күн бұрын

the blocks are made in the same place said some comments .

@Santor-

12 күн бұрын

​​​​@@Walterrinhoyes, then they ship those blocks to the two factories, including a little white package containing "debris" and instructions on exactly where to put it. 🙄

@scheraw7658

11 күн бұрын

Either way, standardized manufacturing and assembly says they can be made anywhere and all have the same problem.

@MrSleepProductionsInc

10 күн бұрын

CNC machinery, same programing gets you same results. That’s the whole point of cnc, good and/or bad!

@DxCBuG

4 күн бұрын

​@@MrSleepProductionsIncYou're not wrong but if anything in the chain isn't up to spec it pays off to have experienced and trained staff. They can catch a lot of these things before it's a mass problem within the product line..

Legendary quality and reliability. Unfortunately, many cult members will find excuses and call GM or others garbage for the exact same situation.

Hopefully Toyota will straighten out the problems withthenew ones I’ve had lots of success with Toyotas Just got a 1985 Toyota 2.4 Diesel pickup with 93 thousand kilometres is awake again after 8 years storage rest . Runs like a charm .

At least they admitted fault and recalled the vehicles, I hope the dealerships will fix customers vehicles under the warranty

I just can't believe with all the testing they did before launching this truck ,they didn't run in to any of these issues and there are a lot of issue not just engine

@john-martin

21 күн бұрын

They tested with model engines and not with assembly engines.

The same kind of issue happened in FPT 9L engines a few years ago, the blocks weren’t cleaned out entirely from the casting stage, and had grains of sand baked into the block, which would eventually come loose and work their way into bearings and seals

I helped a lady with a warranty on an engine that left the factory with improper machined blocks that left shavings in the engine. I replaced a starter and 2 days later the engine grenaded itself. After some research i found her block number came from a recalled factory that had this same issue with debris in the blocks.

That's hard to believe that Toyota would have metal debris in motor from machining motor!!

@jebsdaddy141

23 күн бұрын

Sounds like a cover story to me to down play another issue.

What is the remedy? New engine?

@oliverheaviside2539

26 күн бұрын

New short block only, not the entire engine.

@StripedTurkey

25 күн бұрын

Yup, and that’s total 🐂 💩!

@1gbayfisher

23 күн бұрын

​@@oliverheaviside2539oh great. Thats not right...these truck owners deserve a new engine, top to bottom. Metal filings get everywhere, and omce it chews the bearings, even worse.

@oliverheaviside2539

23 күн бұрын

@@1gbayfisher You are correct, and taking the entire front body of the truck apart and then disassemble the whole engine to swap the short block is a technician’s nightmare, takes a month or longer, and something inevitably will not be done right. And the recall is for 96,500 trucks!

Always good to hear Mr. Windors outlook on these issues. I’m at a lose for why my own personal outlook so greatly mirrors PW’s in most of these situations. Great minds….. you know the rest.

My 23' Tundra has been working great!

Toyota fanboys will say they never break down. 😂

@TexasBig

9 күн бұрын

@@dnegel9546 It's because Japan let America build the block.

@m00nkinftw

9 күн бұрын

Fanboys are the worst. I like Toyota, but I have no problem admitting they made shitty engines. The 1ZZ, the D-4D, the IS250 with the V6, etc

@briangonzalez8514

9 күн бұрын

@@m00nkinftwobviously they have had bad engines but the good outweighs the bad. That’s the difference with Toyota that America car companies can’t say the same about.

@gamesguy

9 күн бұрын

This is a manufacturing error caused by shitty American workers.

@danw5996

9 күн бұрын

Heres the big difference. They warranty their produce when they realize they f'd up. Even long after mandatory warranty peroids expire and not because of class action lawsuits. Toyota fan boys exist en mass for a reason.

I had a 2020 RAV4 and it was the biggest pile of trash I’ve ever driven. No uncomfortable, noisy, clunky, and just overall unimpressive. Nothing but issues one after another. Traded it for my 23 Frontier and haven’t been happier. The perfect truck to me in many ways.

@victor75208

9 күн бұрын

It's a 23 model. Give it more than just one year 😂

@c.h.r.i.s2253

3 күн бұрын

So why did you buy it??? All of that is what you find out test driving it. If you really found a Ford to be better than I don't think the car is the problem

Love that I work at a dealer ship and knew about this there was also a issue with shavings getting in the oil jackets :)

V8 Tundra's were indestructible. Because of all the emissions nonsense, they had to get rid of em.

Not only do you get an overpriced POS but you also get the honor of spending the day with one of the bottom 3 life forms on the planet, a car salesman. Maybe someday car companies will wise up and make good vehicles we can all go to Costco and be in and out withing 5 minutes.

@rx7241

Күн бұрын

You can buy a car at costco

@rickbackous1041

Күн бұрын

@@rx7241 You cannot buy a car AT Costco. Costco provides a slight discount, but you still have to go to a car dealership and hassle with a car salesman (the lowest lifeform on earth) about trade ins, finance if needed, upcharges and extended warranties, the special pinstripe and paint protection they got like $5 in and try to sell it for $1000.

I am not a Toyota Fan boy but Toyota is doing the right thing and addressing this issue head on. It’s an unfortunate mistake, and all manufacturers have issue like these. Being that Toyota has built a solid reputation of being reliable the public loves to see them humbled by this problem. It’s how a company handles their mistakes that says the most. Give this truck 3 years on the market and they will have the bugs worked out of it.

@disco.lemonade

5 күн бұрын

It's the least they can do lmao, stop praising them for doing their job and fulfilling their obligation as a car manufacturer that manufactures a shitty engine

Sounds like a cost cutting paper pusher cut funding for the "Quality Control Department".

I just glad that Toyota is Honest with us when they make mistakes.

Toyota needs a class action lawsuit for this. Telling someone their new 60K truck is gonna have a rebuilt engine now is bullshit. Sue the shit out of them

@privateer9181

20 күн бұрын

60k? whats that the base model with no tires and steering wheel? Try 75K

@metalavenger23

20 күн бұрын

Welcome to the life of a ford owner.

@danielredziniak2996

14 күн бұрын

@@privateer9181Base model is 40, mid trim is 60k and top of the line capstone is like 75k.

@privateer9181

14 күн бұрын

@@danielredziniak2996 ok ok

@blinkguy4ever

13 күн бұрын

​​@@privateer9181 well... my limited with all the bells and whistles and trd off road package. And totally decked out to the max was 65k out the door... I think you are probably one of those who doesn't own one right?

The age of the turbocharger is a big step backwards for car owners.

@Keefer24

21 күн бұрын

It was cool when you did it to the 5k Honda you wanted to street race, paying 70k for this garbage is unacceptable.

@Clyde-2055

12 күн бұрын

I’ll remember that as I drive my ‘91 Mitsu with the 4G63 turbo engine … The one I bought new and has never had the head off.

@charlieb308

12 күн бұрын

WW2 planes had turbos and that was over 80 years ago. My 1986 Buick Grand National has no issues with a turbo, my 2016 Subaru STI zero issues, my 2001 Dodge Ram Cummins turbo diesel has over 200,000 miles on original engine, my wife’s 2019 Honda CRV has a turbo with 70,000 miles no issues, my 2019 Ford F150 2.7 twin turbo is running perfect at 24,000 miles.

@T410ce

10 күн бұрын

The problem is when turbocharged engines are worked hard and often. A modern N.A. V6 is what is termed High or super High Output as it is. So much stress on internals because of how much power they produce. Add twin turbos to the equation and nearly 500 hp and tow a trailer … just like the Ecoboosts, they have lots of issues when worked hard.

@rxonmymind8362

9 күн бұрын

What if they instead want supercharger route?

They cannot handle the raptor😂😂😂❤

@troycarmicle1522

7 күн бұрын

And yes that is a 5.3 V6 twin turbo 450 horsepower plant🎉 for about $80,000😂😂 and it's fun as hell. It really handles the log and roads real well

Toyota has the best recall record ,as well as service campaigns, hope they're able to correct and make successful platform out of these new generation engines

Everyone saying go back to the 5.7 V8 lol yes it’s good and bulletproof but thanks to Biden the emission standards are strict as hell forcing all manufacturers to go hybrid, full EV, or downsizing motors

@carlstephens1532

11 күн бұрын

The move to less emissions has been going on since the 60s , it has made a very positive impact on our environment, and it will continue as in 2030 our fuel changes and in 2035 you will not be able to buy new ice vehicles , Biden has had very little to do with emission laws . My solution is to adapt my current trucks to flex fuels

@jmiodus9610

10 күн бұрын

FJB

@benredacted8468

7 күн бұрын

@@carlstephens1532 😂 you got that Government kool aid all over face 😂

@P3rformula

7 күн бұрын

Hopefully upcoming decisions from SCOTUS will allow a lot of these EPA rules to get push back.

@carlstephens1532

6 күн бұрын

@@benredacted8468 hardly , it shows you don't understand the issue

They are lying. V6 engines are made in Japan and outside Japan. Can seperate maching by different machines in different countries leave debri ? U mean no QC ? U mean nobody assembling engine saw the debri ?

The bigger truck needs that bigger motor!

holy shit. the fact that theres already 100k units sold is impressive

all manufacturers know they're products are shit. the game is keeping you paying for it till you get another brand new pos to pay for.

@icecoldac3

17 күн бұрын

The wisest comment I’ve come across on this vid. Essentially this is the circus most consumers are in with these Auto manufacturers. Statistics show dealerships are going belly up because customers starting to realize buy and holding a reliable product is the most cost efficient way to go. No more trade ins, no more leasing & financing is done.

@marcfiliatrault8857

17 күн бұрын

@@icecoldac3 yeah. What a shit situation were all in here

The difference between Toyota and Ford is that when Toyota makes a mistake did you notice they immediately recalled all the cars…

@quyle9483

28 күн бұрын

Pretty sure toyota was the only one that had a design flawed that killed many and endangered the lives of millions of people and claimed it was a sticking accelerator pedal while it was a flub with their fly by wire throttle software.

@vettle1

28 күн бұрын

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ people been fighting them since launch... Fan girls are insufferable

@trumpet12345

28 күн бұрын

japan blames until proven wrong. america, whole cities are burned before that. honda/toyota are recall fleeing queens. gm too. i think ford and mopar types are as proud as they are hostile to their own brand when the brand fucks up

@byronlocklear91

27 күн бұрын

Reliability issue with the turbo v6 has been going on since 2017 in the Lexus Gx. It’s not really a high seller so it got pushed under the rug.

@gmfan09

26 күн бұрын

wtf are you talking about? It’s been going on for years

Just picked up a 2014 5.7. Couldn’t be happier after hearing this news but my god its hard on fuel

Their ultra reliability status tanked after they came out with the V6 that replaced their V8.