Where would you go to give these systems a work-out?

@welcome2myworld1.o89

5 жыл бұрын

Driving Sports TV no where! Because I’d get stuck ASAP!

@dragonduel7909

5 жыл бұрын

During those launch tests, what does that torque distribution display show versus rear wheel spin (or lack of)?

@cajones9330

5 жыл бұрын

I took my 19 awd off road thru a tall grass/ muddy area after the big round of storms in Feb (san diego) in mud sand mode. It went thru no prob and all tires were spinning all over the place. I got worried for a second because it was alot muddier than i expected.

@Sylvan_dB

5 жыл бұрын

Your selections were great!

@a.t.stowell1709

5 жыл бұрын

Transfer cases are failing everywhere. Investigate.

I appreciate that you're actually explaining how the different AWD systems work and doing tests. This type of video is much better than the average car video dealing with AWD, which is usually without meaningful testing or pushing past the marketing fluff to see what's actually going on. My only critique is that more info would be good (exactly how much torque can transfer and how quickly, do incline/temperature sensors play a role, is ABS beefed up to handle constant brake-actuated torque shifting (master cylinder, pads, calipers), what type of clutch packs are used in torque vectoring (hydraulic, electric, wet/dry, etc. - are they likely to overheat or wear out with constant use?), is software upgradable, etc.). Looking at articulation and clearance would also, of course, be relevant, as would the transmission (some AWD systems seem limited by a CVT not being able to handle the load of moving more torque).

What a great video and explanation of all the different systems! Best video I've watched in a long time breaking something down that only people who care will investigate! Bravo!

The more I watch of this channel the more I appreciate it. Substantial, well informed reviewing and REALISTIC real world testing, no comical "outrageously pumped-up Jeep vs Soccer mom crossover on summer tires in Hell's Revenge tub: Only one makes it out" clickbate content... Keep it up!

Fantastic review! Love the real world tests and the breakdown of the various systems!

How you guys only have 68k subscribers is beyond me. You guys make better reviews than channels that have 500k subscribers. Keep it up

@gsanchez922

5 жыл бұрын

I just subscribe

@mziwendukuntsele671

5 жыл бұрын

I've just subscribed too.

@garywillis8737

5 жыл бұрын

I supposed a lot of subscribers are looking for 'entertainment', not so much 'actual value'. Sad, I know...

@Kiss__Kiss

5 жыл бұрын

This is due to the decade plus of experience making excellent, and informative automotive videos/reviews.

@malandvulamachawe6323

4 жыл бұрын

Dish out crap you will have a dozen followers. Speak sense then its a different story.

I'm so happy this video explained how the AWD in the Hybrid works.

After watching a few of your videos, I started to enjoy your reviews. Keep up with the good work!

I’m new to the off-road and AWD world. And I’m learning so much about it from channel.

Love your off road traction reviews

Thank you for your professional and scientific tests on those AWD system!

Thank you for this!! It has been on my mind a lot lately to find out the variations of AWD systems.

Very well done and explained. This is the best video on the AWD systems I have watched, and yes the Toyota guy is just that, trying to sell his cars and systems. The smirk is obnoxious. BUT YOU are right on the money, and that is sincerely appreciated. IF I really wanted full time AWD I'd buy a Subaru.

Excellent Vehicle review, I like the technical aspect of the review that’s a big bonus when it comes to buying a vehicle and I really appreciate the interesting content as well as different terrain. Good job guys

Excellent analysis of the all wheel drive systems available on RAV 4 and Prius. These systems are part time AWD less sophisticated than what Toyota provides on its Land Cruiser series with central (Torsen) mechanical differential and locking capabilities of the rear differential. The video is very interesting with excellent explanations. Many thanks.

Driving Sports TV aka Ryan, I'm loving your XR4Ti/ Sierra Cosworth Tshirt!!!

Great video! Thank you guys! I agree with some of the below commenters, I wish you’d do a 2019 rav4 hybrid video on the trail to test out the “TRAIL” mode.

@space_invader

5 жыл бұрын

Would like more info on hybrid AWD in snow. Driving to the chalet every weekend is tricky...I am use to Quattro

Fantastic video. Really glad you did this testing

The best car reviews ever.

This video was better than expected. I usually only watch Alex on Auto's channel. I will be checking out more of your content!

This is absolutely a fantastic episode

thanks for the comprehensive AWD review

Toyota’s new AWD is basically still fwd but waits for the fronts to slip before sending any power to the back. It’s all still mpg based; don’t use the rears unless you absolutely have to.

@bob15479

4 жыл бұрын

I would actually prefer this mpg bias, I would just want to be able to turn it off.

@davidarnovitz628

4 жыл бұрын

2019 rears are almost always engaged. Just look at the display plus I never get stuck, at least not yet.

@GamingAmbienceLive

3 жыл бұрын

it kind of makes this system very reliable because it will be used so little, so you never have to worry if its fucked if you are buying a used car, on the other hand in the inclement weather it will do absolutely nothing, judging from this video, it will only matter when you are in a real pickle like deep snow or sand, or rocks, and out of these 3 its mainly only the deep snow, but with the climate becoming warmer and last winter we didn't even have any snow at all, this system will just add a bit of value to the car, just not practicality. AWD systems have always been designed first for safety, when you are hydroplaning or when you are cornering at high speed or taking off, and out of all the systems he showed Toyota's one is just plain useless when it comes to safety factor of the system. Maybe somebody smart can hack it and make it more useful, or maybe its a viscous coupling differential with the fluid thats not very viscous, thats why it engages so sluggishly.

@boostedmaniac

3 жыл бұрын

Cody Slab AWD won’t help you with hydroplaning. If you’re hydroplaning, you’re usually going too fast, so adding power to all 4 wheels won’t help get traction. It’s mainly been useful for in rainy weather for accelerating hard into traffic, and climbing hills in heavy snow and ice for me. Most of the AWD systems aren’t torque vectoring so they don’t help with high speed turning.

One of the best informative videos out there! Thank you sir

Great Video and super informative! Nice work!

Would you have a video similar to this to compare the AWD on the 2019 Subaru Forester? Your channel has amazing videos!!! Keep up the amazing work!

@JDMHaze

4 жыл бұрын

Keith Cabrera nahh not necessary,, subaru is proven without question

great video indeed! I really hope you guys would do one on the new 2020 Highlander as that car is on the top of my list. many thanks in advance

@normt5463

5 жыл бұрын

Why would you put a vehicle on your list that you know nothing about? We do know Toyota made micro improvements to the Hybrid RAV4 but in the end it came up smaller and did t place well on a cars.com comparison. Which is typical average Toyota resting on it's laurels.

The best review ever!!

like your honesty and spirit to dig to the bottom. Nice review.

Great video. Highly informative.

Fantastic review, thank you for not just parroting the manufacturer's (marketing?) statements.

solid questioning. And great pointing out that the RAV4's rear wheels don't engage as well as other vehicles. Excellent parallel construction. I don't see many others asking the hard questions and pressing past the auto industry's marketing departments. Intellectually rigorous show.

Excellent review 🙌🙌

Thanks! Very good test. Greetings from Poland :)

Wow Great video, can you test another's brands to see the difference between AWD systems. Thank you

Very interesting. I have a 21 Rav4 XLE and just got my first taste of its performance in snow conditions. I found it to work very well and it did actually seem to power the rears from a hard launch. Since I was inside the car and had no one to observe from outside though I can't say for certain. I am also convinced that the snow mode does not "shut off" at higher speeds as Toyota seems to claim since cycling this mode on and off at highway speeds clearly cause a change in the sound of the drive train. With these systems evolving so quickly I suspect it's quite hard to remain current year to year on exactly how they work. Thanks for a very informative video.

@zero2sixty244

2 жыл бұрын

It’s had to of had an upgrade in software since this, I had a 21 XLE AWD and it passed diagonal test with 2 tires in the air. It definitely relies on brakes for traction but when you stay on throttle, it’ll get you the traction you need for the most part. It was pretty good

Great video. Please do more comparisons.

Looking forward for more serious tests with the new hybrid RAV4 and see how it compares to a Forester. Is there a limitation of speed like on the Prius AWD?

This is the reason why I bought Subaru Outback. Thanks for this video.

These are great in depth non bias videos! - Would you guys do a similar video segment with the all-new 2020 KIA Sportage AWD? I assume it’s pretty similar to Hyundai but I believe they might use two different systems.

This makes me feel good about my Subaru.

Amazing video. Thank you!

Good test! Thanks!

The 3rd system seems simple enough to implement on basically any FWD vehicle and would add low speed AWD grip along with higher fuel efficiency to basically any commuter vehicle. A lot of "hot hatch" enthusiasts would LOVE this tech found in some entry level commuter cars with deep enthusiast communities. For Toyota, it'd be an awesome addition to a Yaris or Corolla. No? It'd be such a good combination of practicality with a touch of fun/performance!

This is great. In process of buying a car, this was very helpful.

@carlauditts8514

3 жыл бұрын

What did you end up buying?

@satanicmonkey666

3 жыл бұрын

@@carlauditts8514 Hyundai santa fe. I liked the interior slightly more.

@carlauditts8514

3 жыл бұрын

Erick Estrada oh ok cool. no issues so far ? It is a quiet ride ? No road or wind noises? I’ve never own Hyundai brand and I might consider to get a Santa Fe 2021 with 2.4 engine 4 cylinder. I heard that you get lots of value / features for the price .

@satanicmonkey666

3 жыл бұрын

@@carlauditts8514 No issues since I bought it. Never thought to myself that it was loud while driving. I recommend to make sure the one you get has android auto and apple carplay, very convenient for driving.

@carlauditts8514

3 жыл бұрын

Erick Estrada thank you so much for sharing . I love Subaru Forester and I’m thinking to get one in 2021 but I’m considering hybrid Highlander ( I dislike a bunch of stuff of the Highlander). I’ll check out the Santa Fe 2021 before I made a decision.

This worth to purchase them! Reliable vehicles! 👍👍👍

Awesome Video!

Thanks a lot for this interesting review. I am planning to get one of these cars and the review is good for me to learn about its limitations. I normally don't do offroading. I crive around town and between towns, but there are trails in China and some roads are not paved. And occasionally I may venture out into the suburb area for camping or bird photography (not a very serious hobby). So I reckon the hybrid Rav4 may be quite OK for my purposes. The space, the price, and its limited offroading capabilities look decent to me.

Great video. Kudos to Toyota on their new RAV4: its come a long way from its tall-Tercel roots. I worry that Toyota is chasing down too many paths instead of making one great AWD.

Subaru's AWD rocks! Great video!

Great great video! Subbed and liked! It seems the Toyota AWD is lackluster.

Great video great explanation thank you⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

13:47 Powering, powering, powering into oblivion 😂😂😂😂 you gotta love this guy

Love the research on this! Personally don't care too much what Toyota officially says. They're just using your platform to market themselves. I'm more focused on what your thoughts are, how you feel driving the car and your perspective.

I have the 2019 rav4 hybrid, and I think it's definitely the most advanced awd, it is about 85% as good as the 4x4 on my f150 so not bad

I just subscribed and am waiting for the All new tundra and Lexus LX test

His tests show the fault of the Toyota systems. With their limited rear power on launch it is very limited until the rear wheels do anything to help move forward. The Subaru system has shown shows it works much better in slick conditions because it truly provides power to all four wheels. Still, the Toyota system is good enough to climb our 600 foot mountain to get home (15 percent climb). It just does not work as well as Subaru and other AWD systems that are true AWD. This demo is much appreciated.

Thanks, great overview, really helped me. I tried 2.5L, 8 speed auto, Adventure, was good, passes diagonal test flawlessly (left front wheel in air, the other on gravel) but the 2.5L, 8 speed auto, GXL AWD did well too so GXL AWD is my choice that also gets full size spare wheel; isn't strange that Adventure has space saver spare wheel for bigger trunk? I'd say since greater off-road capability / full torque vectoring you better have full size spare wheel if you go on rocky trail. However RAV 4 only flaw for me is handling, body roll can be tricky while you are not yet aware how it feels - if you get one make sure you get used with its handling in tight corners at speed. Otherwise I really like RAV 4 e.g. the D-4S injection make sense and on GXL AWD the MPG is good too.

A Merkur XR4Ti t-shirt! I used to own 3 of them. They were great cars.

As always one of the best reviews. I wish you had RAV4 Hybrid to test the start and cornering, RAV4 motor on the rear axle is stronger than Prius. I realy wanna see if there is an improvement from the previous model.

@alanyoung159

5 жыл бұрын

Yes!!

@kx7kx782

4 жыл бұрын

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@zero2sixty244

2 жыл бұрын

I recently drove a 21 Hybrid RAV4 in snow and had to frequently use the "trail" mode that acts as a locker with the brakes as it was very FWD biased even when it said it was sending power to the rear. it was either too much, especially in a turn where it would spin the vehicle out or not enough

@alexyakuba2805

2 жыл бұрын

@@zero2sixty244 Thsnks for the info. Sounds like the idea is there, but there is still work to be done.

nice shirt, love those old cosworths

Thank you, it was very informative for a noob like me.

Y'all should test the AWD-I in the 2019 Rav4 hybrid offroad to see how it compares.

@wtfx5757

5 жыл бұрын

This

@iannowakistheman

5 жыл бұрын

Shane T ^this please! I want to buy one if it’s not a total flop

@zero2sixty244

5 жыл бұрын

Their electric/hybrid AWD’s aren’t the best but that’s just my personal opinion

@kartboarder22g17

5 жыл бұрын

He did just od that.

@JDMHaze

4 жыл бұрын

probably be WORST

More great awd content keep going brother :)

I still far prefer the always-on AWD of Subaru's. I would prefer to have a slight penalty to my MPG for the piece of mind of knowing that AWD system is working for me 100% of the time.

@normt5463

5 жыл бұрын

"...70 percent of new Subaru vehicles are now the object of recalls or service campaigns within two years of being purchased, noting that the “permissible limit” should be around 10 percent." www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2019/06/report-outlines-how-subaru-is-coping-with-quality-control-issues/

@pedlpower

4 жыл бұрын

Agree. I want an AWD system that works without having to adjust a knob. Subaru still has the best AWD.

@carlauditts8514

3 жыл бұрын

Norm T we have 2 cars in 4 years from Subaru, no mayor recalls. Same bs as other brands.

@timlor1789

2 жыл бұрын

If your gonna trade gas for awd performance you minus well just get a 4runner. At least that's real and has a low range.

@ryantaylor6530

2 жыл бұрын

@@timlor1789 if you want proper offroading then sure but for me personally it just about that extra piece of mind always on 4wd gives me when I am in the car with the kids and it is bucketing down outside.

Can't wait to drive the new 2014 rav4 adventure

Thank you for awesome review. Please review the new Honda Passport when you get a chance.

@drivingsports

5 жыл бұрын

We have one scheduled to film later in May.

Please consider doing the all new Mazda 3 with AWD! Fantastic video as always!

@drivingsports

5 жыл бұрын

We have a request in for the Mazda3 AWD Hatch.

@ENJOYWATCHING407

5 жыл бұрын

Driving Sports TV Wonderful! Thx!

Great review...the only thing fake about it is the smile from the guy from Toyota.

Ty. Good analysis

all i no is i tested a new rav limited in deep ass snow ans ice roads and it was awesome. engine louder than I like but it handled perfectly and was awesome in snow

@willb9259

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's what I bought it for, snow and gravel roads

@davidarnovitz628

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly. They system works. Just look at the graphic display. My rear wheels on my 2019 HL almost always show some rear wheel power when on the gas.

Lift kit + bigger tires = love

I think you just helped Subaru sell a bunch of new Foresters to people who want their AWD system to do something at launch. Sure makes me appreciate the system in my WRX. I'm willing to pay the small fuel economy penalty for traction.

Thanks a lot!

As long it gets you out of the situation is what matters!

First channel that is honest! I always thought the brake attenuating systems that toyota puts out are horrible. My Tundra would always get hot on brakes and give me all kinds of messages.

Hmmm, that means Toyota AWD with Torque Vectoring isn't all it cracks up to be :(...

Will you please explain the Subaru model? This is SO understandable!

Can you explain Kia Telluride’s Active On Demand system? AWD is very important to me that works year round and not just slip and grip (big fan of iVTM-4 and SH-AWD)

After testing the 2019 RAV4 and 2019 Forester, which AWD system do you prefer? Which one feels more capable while off road?

In a 2019 Rav-4 hybrid, does the electronic-only "intelligent" linkage between front and rear axles mean if you have a flat on e.g. left rear tire, you only need to replace both rear tires for adequate match, or do you still have to replace all four tires (as in conventional awd) to avoid excessively stressing the transmission?

From my experience, less slippage and more traction is what you want when off roading in either Awds or traditional 4wds

Thanks for great review! Could you test AWD-i off road as the other options, please?

@drivingsports

5 жыл бұрын

That video went live on Tuesday. Check out the 2019 RAV4 hybrid XSE video.

@alisterthomas4689

4 жыл бұрын

Driving Sports TV 2019 rav4 hybrid

Do you have an update video for the new models Rav4 prime, trd off-road, xse models ? Crazy your test were in pnw I live in Seattle all my life and want to get an suv Rav4

I like the AWD system in my 2011 highlander Limited. I have never experienced a lack of traction when taking off from a stop. Even on snow covered, rainy, or gravel roads. Can you tell me how this new system stack up against an older system like the one I have?

Any chance to review the hybrid AWD system in recent Lexus models? Mainly I wonder if the "more aggressive software re-tune" for the rear MGR was done in earlier MY (e.g. 2016-2019 RX 450h AWD).

very cool car video

Thank you for the great video! It’s the best explanation of the AWD for Toyota that I’ve come across so far. I was hoping someone can pitch in and help me answer something. I’m on the fence about purchasing an XLE Premium package (standard AWD) or a Limited trim (Dynamic Torque Vectoring AWD) RAV4. I live in Canada and we get quite a bit of snow. This AWD is my primary deciding factor between the two trims, and the difference in price between the two trims is roughly $4000. If the Dynamic Torque Vectoring AWD on the Limited trim is worth it and will make that much of a noticeable difference in the snow I’m willing to shell out the money for it, but if the difference is negligible I’d rather go with the XLE Premium package and save some money. Thank you in advance for any help!

@drivingsports

3 жыл бұрын

I would say the difference between the two is minor in practice. The "next step up" from the standard RAV4 system in Toyota's lineup is to go with a truck-based auto-4WD setup like in the 4Runner Limited or Land Cruiser.

@ahmaddhooma920

3 жыл бұрын

@@drivingsports thank you so much for the reply, I really appreciate it! This absolutely helps in my decision making process. Please keep up with the great videos!

Couldn't get the rear wheels to spin in the snow from a launch. I mean, that AWD system is pure marketing.

@Erin-Thor

3 жыл бұрын

So… what you’re saying is their AWD system worked, as wheel slippage (loss or traction) is bad. So… NOT pure marketing dribble.

@nicolec7290

2 жыл бұрын

& from what I have read it turns off at 25 mph. So anything over that your running fwd. not good

Can you do a review on the Chevy Astro all wheel drive systems I still have not completely figure it out my system

Honda i-VTM can sent upto 70% power to rear wheels when needed and works very well in off road conditions.

Great review. WHERES THE AWD?

Also weight transfer could make the rear not want to slip. Low power heavy cars might struggle to spin tires.

i have the 2019 RAV4 limited and AWD definitely kicked in during launch and cornering. but its not consistent on when it kicks in and when it doesnt, i think the software is reading the road condition, up/down hill and rain.

8:35 "this AWD ain't for the best, their reputation's never been worse"

@JDMHaze

4 жыл бұрын

Octavio Guzman lmaoo ikr

2021 HH Platinum awd doing well in Upper Midwest snow/ice/slush. I drove one month on the OEM Bridgestone Alenza Sport and they did surprisingly well thanks in part to the AWD-I. Trail mode is great when you want more traction. Our previous 2013 HH Limited awd-I was not a great winter driver until I got pure snow tires on it. I put 150k miles on that 2013 and it was so reliable and I still got $11,000 on the trade in. I wanted a far superior winter handling and still use as a summer tire so I went with an all-weather tire: Nokian WRG4 SUVs on the 2021. These Highlanders are built safe(got T-boned by silverado and hit deer), reliable, efficient, and hold their resale value well.

I love taking my 2020 RAV4 on the NC beaches & AZ rocky hils. It has had no prolem of doing a great job. It just works. When I am in sand on the beach all 4 wheels spin from the start. So they must have fixed that problem. @11:00 Yes and I have. That is what a RAV4 is made for off-road. Anyone that says no is not a true RAV4 driver or owner.

@simrandhaliwal8195

5 ай бұрын

what trim rav 4 do you have?

5:15 wished during the awd testing there was tarp in the trunk with some sandbags in the back to fully test the system because he did say that it may Not engage the rear wheels due to a lack of weight in the rear then in 11:20 you cant really see if/how the rear wheels are working(or the clutches "activating"), just not too sure how to judge whether the AWD system is working or not

Subaru definitely has the car and CUV systems figured out. Toyota AWD aka full time 4WD systems that really shine are the torsen center diffs on the land cruiser, 4Runner Limited, Lexus GX460 and LX570. All those vehicles have hi and lo 4wd, torsen center diffs, automatic gear boxes, etc.

@Sirgromulus

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly! These vehicles are in an entirely different class however.

@MikePowlas

Жыл бұрын

RAV4 is great as well.

Would you please do the test on Hyundai Santa fe and lexus nx. Thanks,