Best Wheels!

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

Roger!! Such a huge fan and so stoked that you actually found this video 🤯 Been trying to catch you guys on live stream for so long but the time difference makes it hard. Think I'll just have to take a day off and watch live to join in on the fun. And yes, these are seriously the best wheels. Still hoping for those Bones experimental 95A's! Have a good one my dude and 69 forever.

@thevernonposse

Жыл бұрын

So crazy I saw you on the nine club and I thought you looked so familiar and I realized that you were the guy at something else in Danvers square

38 years old?! Damn bro I thought u were like 22

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

haha, yep! Skating keeps me young I guess!

I am still a beginner, these wheels brought me into street skating. before it was too jaring to skate the rough streets around here with hard wheels. but dragons I can ride around and then I find a nice spot and I just skate it! with these wheels, in only 2 weeks I learned to powerslide and to ollie up and off a curb, I am ecstatic! of course I already had ok'ish ollies before, but thats a whole new level for me. they are actually gamechangers for me! love em!

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

Awesome! It's awesome when new gear brings new tricks. Keep on shredding my dude!

Much love and respect to you and your channel. I hope that all is well for you and your family and friends.

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it my dude! Same goes for you~

Great review and very beautifully and well articulated. Been wondering about these wheels myself and I'm just starting to get back into skateboarding again myself after a 7 year break.

@Unlockingparadoxes

Жыл бұрын

Wheels are becoming more advanced thankfully.

@Unlockingparadoxes

Жыл бұрын

I wonder if it will ever be possible to make a wheel that is both soft, power slides, grips and doesn't chip or flat spot.

@Unlockingparadoxes

Жыл бұрын

Flat spots are serious pests.

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! If you're used to the wheels you used to ride 7 years ago then these might feel a little soft for you, but you'll get used to them real quick.

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

@@Unlockingparadoxes I've been pretty aggressive with these wheels and they haven't flat spotted yet but I have to admit the chipping isn't very aesthetically pleasing. I'm just glad they don't impact the ride! I'm hoping that Bones releases those 95A's and that little bit of extra hardness will get rid of the chunking.

Dope. That FS flip after the five-O was perfect

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

Been working on them since I was a kid! hahah

damn they look really good nice vid man

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it my dude!

I hope that all is well for everyone reading this comment.

@bent52telecaster

Жыл бұрын

It ain’t 😂😭😭

@VenomOG

Жыл бұрын

Nope, but thanks for the positivity

@Unlockingparadoxes

Жыл бұрын

@@VenomOG I'm sorry to that. I hope that things start going more positive for you soon.

I'm 40 and recently had an ACL sprain and oh yea fell in love. Can skate longer don't feel the vibration that my bad knee was impacting on my spitfire. I switched up to the quantum bearings too. Which is smooth too. Never going back.

Great video and skating man!

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

appreciate it dude!

Never give up on your dreams and aspirations and remember to be kind and uplifting to each other and open minded and genuine.

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for spreading the love homie!

okey now i have to try them out. those exact things u describe are what im looking for an been trying all type of wheels, but they really sound like the perfect wheel for me too

Perfect review for me! I'm turning 38 next year and i took a couple of years off from skating because I just couldn't do it anymore. Parks in these parts are mostly "crusty" asphalt parks, while the obstacles are made of smooth concrete, like you've mentioned. So you need to push double time and just rolling around the park drains your energy. My expectations for these wheels are pretty high.

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

Yep! The greatest thing is you can spend more energy on doing actual tricks rather than getting to your tricks.

Great video

Thanks for the video - Which exact wheels are these? Did you say Dragons Wheels 95a version 5? I don't see these listed on the Bones website anymore. I'm also trying to find something that will help dampen the impact (same reasons you mentioned - knees, back), but allows me to slide (sounds counter-intuitive). I saw your other video on the new X-Formula. I currently use SpitFire Formula-4 52mm 99 du for street, but I also carry a set of Ricta 54mm Clouds 78 du for getting around. I'd like to try the Dragons, but wondering if that's no longer an option and if I need to go with the X-Formula. If so (if the Dragons aren't available), which wheels do you recommend? - Thanks in advance for your help and for this video. I sub'd. Hopefully you continue to make/share content.

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

The wheels in this review were the Powell 52mm Dragon 93a V1's! I guess it really depends on what kind of skating you like to do. If you're doing a lot of ledge tricks that, I'd definitely go for the Bones X-Formula 97's. Reason is because they don't squeal as much when sliding across certain types of coping. They're also soft enough to lower the impact. Dragons are good if you're skating relatively crusty street spots. If you're mostly doing park skating where the ground is smooth, the Dragons might feel a little too soft. Overall I think the X Formula's are the best all around wheel. I've been skating the 97a X Formula V5's for about half a year now and I don't really have any complaints. Bones did just come out with a 99a X Formula so I am curious how it compares to a 99a Formula Four or the STF formula.

youre humble stay that way, you are really good skating man dont cut yourself short!

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

A lot of wheels that are softer can get chunks removed when skating. It's sometimes not necessarily a matter of missing a ledge trick, it can be rough roads causing this too. I also suspect the wheel doesn't have a uniform durometer everywhere. It might be softer in some areas, harder in others. It would explain how it can still slide, but overall feel comfortable like a softer wheel would.

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

I never thought about it that way! It totally makes sense. Regardless, these wheels are still game changers. I wonder if the experimental 95A's will solve the chipping issue 🤔

Excellent review. Really appreciate the detail you went into with this.

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! All these positive comments has me wanting to make more of these videos so let me know if you have any requests!

I just tested mine. I have two pair, the classic shape dragons and I have the conical shape dragons. First I will describe the classic shape dragons 54mm. What I previously have been riding are the spitfire 97A classic shape 54mm for my comparison. I skated three different surfaces from smooth to rough, then actually crusty. I did power slides, reverts, and very fast pushing to see how they hold my speed for street skating. On a scale from 1 to 10, the spitfire 97A felt about a 1-2 point difference from the Dragons in 4 different ways. It felt a 2 point out of 10 difference in speed. the Spitfire 97A classic shape was faster than the classic shape dragon on all surfaces. It felt one point difference in vibrations, the dragons translating less vibrations, but just by one point on the roughest surfaces. The slide ability of the dragons in classic shape was about 2 points less slick than the spitfire 97A classic shape on all surfaces. And lastly the sound was about 1 point louder for the spitfires vs the quieter dragons. Now I will describe the conical shaped dragons in 56mm. The 56mm dragons were about 2 points different in speed from the spitfire classics 97A, the spitfires being faster = less need for pushing. Slide Ability felt 1 point less slippery compared to the spitfires. Vibrations were about 2 points softer on the dragons vs the spitfires. And lastly, the sound was even less at 2 points quieter for the dragons vs the louder spitfires while riding, HOWEVER they were louder when sliding about 3 points vs the spitfires. Over all, this was on a scale from 1 - 10 and so these differences were small. The best thing I could do from here is to get the spitfire 97A in conical shape to see who the true all terrain winner is. Since the spitfire 97A classic did so well against both the dragons (only a 1-2 point difference in softness feel), I am going to assume the spitfire 97A conical will make up for the vibrations difference and retain the speed.

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

Great review!! I've personally tried the 97A conicals as well and loved them but the shape and size (54mm) were a little too big for me. Since I don't really ride rough terrain as much anymore, I definitely prefer a slimmer and smaller wheel since it makes flipping easier for me. I did like the feel of the 97A's for sure though, but now that I'm used to the Dragons, they do feel a little harder than what I'd like. I'm waiting for Bones to make those 95A's 🙏 I think that might be the perfect mix for me!

@shaun8062

Жыл бұрын

@@JonHomYT Did you try the conical dragons? Those are a softer ride than the classic shaped dragons. Here's what's weird dude.. they also slide better when intended than the classic shape dragons do. Totally weird but amazing.

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

@@shaun8062 I haven't had a chance to try the conicals yet since I'm not a fan of that specific shape, but I do have a friend that has them so I'll probably check em' out on his setup!

@zachemorgan

Жыл бұрын

i always feel like spitfires are too slippery and i slip out of things like 180s on steep hips or rough ground. with the dragons they grip enough that i don't have that problem anymore. if anything they feel faster to me than my spitfires did. could just be im getting better and more comfrotable skating fast or they give me the comfort to go faster not worrying about slipping all over the place.

@shaun8062

Жыл бұрын

@@zachemorgan Reasonable thoughts

Great review! I just got these and im hoping that they dont stick on transition grinds since i bought a whole new setup that caters more to transition (but also ditches, which is rough). Also, am I trippin or would it be a good idea to wax the inside of the wheels a lil bit?

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

I actually haven't tried waxing the inside of the wheels but I'll give it a try!

I was on the fence about ordering these but as soon as he said they don't bounce I was all in. Rn I'm on some 78a ccs 52mm and they have a very pronounced bounce. I can't wait to order these tbh.

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoy them as much as I do!

I wonder how the Bones 95A will compare to the OJ Nomads 95A or even the NFG MFG 95A wheels. I've got the 93A wheels on order and can't wait to compare to what I got. I got the achy knees as well after skating too. Hoping these will help.

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

I've never tried the Nomads or NFG but it seems that Bones is going pretty hard into these experimental formula's right now and it's working out for them! When and if they come out I'll definitely pick them up a do a review.

Well this review finally made me buy em.

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

Great! I expect a full review on my desk by tomorrow morning ;)

Subbed! Cheers boss, I want these so bad.

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it dude! Pick them up if you can find them!

@75YBA

Жыл бұрын

There’s one shop in Toronto, that’s it.

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

@@75YBA Can you guys get stuff shipped from the US from like SkateWarehouse?

I've skated my ricta clouds 78a 60mm over broken glass and no chipping yet (6 months) something's off on these dragons (bought em anyway). Still room for improvement

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

yea I actually have a set of 54mm ricta cloud 78a's on my cruiser and they feel great but they do bounce quite a bit so I won't ever jump off anything or flip my board too much with them.

@mehmetfratozgun6858

Жыл бұрын

hey, i asked someone else and i want to ask you to, i will just copy paste it: so how long did this things last? i wonder, if i buy 58 mm, does it keep with me for a year before it wears down to 53 mm? i will use it on rough pavement, it would be useless when it becomes a small wheel.

Loved the video! What is your setup? What size do you ride?

@xxraptorsc0pezxx

Жыл бұрын

Also specifically which Dragon Formula wheels did you get because they have different sizes

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

@@xxraptorsc0pezxx Thanks bro! In the video my setup was an 8.25" Girl twin tail deck, 148 thunder hollows, 52mm V1 dragon formula wheels, Bronson raw bearings and shake junt bolts ( I think). I've since switched to an 8.25" April deck but everything else is the same!

@xxraptorsc0pezxx

Жыл бұрын

@@JonHomYT Sweet! Why do you ride Thunders compared to other brands?

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

@@xxraptorsc0pezxx lots of reasons! maybe I'll make a video about it but in short, when compared to indy's, the thunder's don't turn as sharp, which means my board is more stable when setting up for tricks. I rode indy's for like 20 years and didn't realize it was an issue until I rode Thunder's for the first time. My ankles aren't as strong as they used to be, so having the extra stability really helps when doing more tech tricks. I still have indy's on my cruiser board though because there's nothing like the carve on them.

I saw a guy online slipping like he was hitting banana peels with these wheels ,that's the only thing holding me back as an old geezer getting back into skating a bit.

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

I guess it really depends on the surface and the how heavy footed you are! I'm what you call a "bailer" so I tend to stay more light footed when landing so it's easier to bail if need me (to avoid the slam). I have a lot of friends who basically commit every time though and they've never complained that the dragons were more slippery than other wheels. I think it mostly depends on the surface though.

@darklight4815

Жыл бұрын

@@JonHomYT right on,thanks for the info,I appreciate it 💪🤘

Thank you so much for your review, you look like 15 years younger than 38 😮, are those wheels size 52?

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

No problem! I hope to make more reviews like this in the future. And yes, they're 52mm.

@PrincipeCaspianX

Жыл бұрын

@@JonHomYT Thank you so much Jon! greetings Bro 😎

ive been looking to get them finally building a board again after years but they are sold out everywhere i also heard that powell is gonna release another wheel this month

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

Dang, that's a bummer. I'm sure they'll be another batch coming out soon though. Yeah, I also heard that either Powell or Bones is going to release another wheel in the next month or so as well. Let's hope for those 95A V5's 🙏

@memorysometimers3067

Жыл бұрын

Are you an old fart like me and @Jon Hom ? Haha jk. You’ll really enjoy them when you eventually get your hands on them. My most noticeable feature is the feel. I’ve had trouble with my nerve endings and other body stuff so nowadays my shoes and wheels need to be a perfect feel on all surfaces or I can only skate for an hour max. I’m rockin the 56mm conical and it’s like a dream came true. A few tiny imperfection are totally acceptable same as every other wheel really. If you’re in the US it’s cheap if you find them at one of our shops here in Canada! Goodluck. Have fun guys!! 🍻👌

@Anthony-uz5tj

Жыл бұрын

@@memorysometimers3067 just turned 32 last sunday so im not exactly an old fart just yet but also not a young one. i am in the us ill check out the store.

38!!!???? Your killin it!!!! I thought you were 15!!!! The chunks out the wheels,im thinking is an inperfection in the molding process,i think maybe the poor wasnt hot enogh to bond all the way,so layers or pockets are seperating and flakeing off?

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

15?! hahah, thanks man.

Chunking is a known issue with softer (75a) downhill skate wheels from both Powell and other manufacturers

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

Glad to know it's not just me then!

@carlossalvatierra7051

11 ай бұрын

its probably due to the high rebound. high rebound wheels also have chunking issues and soft duros add to that

I heard the bones wheels are coming out this month

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

Well if that's the case then it looks like I'll be getting some new wheels soon 😂

Those bronson raws are pretty fast and durable, what bearings did u use before

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

I had a mix of china reds and Bronson g3's hahah

@VenomOG

Жыл бұрын

@Jon Hom lol we all been there my friend 😂 good times.

dude you do not look 38, you look like you’re in your early to mid 20s 😭😭. keep up the good vids

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

haha, thanks man!

Yesterday was my first day with the wheels and... My god I might never be riding any other skateboard wheels ever again lol and I had been in love with formula 4s for a while before then. They don't slide more than my 99a tablets, but definitely slide enough for skating. I like the extra grip though, especially when I goof around and pump flat ground lol And yes, they do take a lot of the impact away from my 34YO joints, it seems. Part of that would also be because I'm only pushing maybe... 3 times less while actually going faster? Lol huge plus. Also, I don't like catching all the attention from people around the city when I roll by... These are perfect for that, even though there is still a low humidity when rolling fast.

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, they're a little stickier on certain surfaces but it's nothing we can't get used to! As an experiment, I went back to my 99a's for a session and seriously after 2 tricks my feet started to hurt. These Dragons have definitely spoiled me. Glad you enjoy them as much as I do!

@burger1113

Жыл бұрын

@@JonHomYT oh it's at least not mostly placebo then lol one thing I wonder is since the 93a formula should be less dense than 99a and up, it would actually be a little lighter than other wheels. That would be another selling point they are missing out on if true.

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

@@burger1113 No it's definitely not placebo, haha. I've basically been skating 99a's for the past 20 years and never really had an issue with them but after skating the 93a's for just a month, I can't go back to the 99a's. My feet hate them

What size are those ones on your board

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

52mm

Mine chipped on the first day of use at a smooth concrete skatepark! Bit worrying.

@mehmetfratozgun6858

Жыл бұрын

i want to ask something to you to. you will be the third guy, i hope you can say something: so how long did this things last? i wonder, if i buy 58 mm, does it keep with me for a year before it wears down to 53 mm? i will use it on rough pavement, it would be useless when it becomes a small wheel. thank you :)

Are those the v4’s?

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

These are the 52mm v1's

You got a mean front side flip bud

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

thanks man!

no way , are you average , your an OG dude.

@JonHomYT

3 ай бұрын

appreciate it bro!

Theres no way mans 38

These are 93a right?

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

Yep, 93a

Those wheels really don’t like metal copings, mine got chipped quite badly skating an indoor skate park.

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

Yeah you're totally right. They stick quite a bit on metal

They do not behave the same on all surfaces. On cobble and asphalt they are exceedingly icy and it's too easy to slide out. On Grator skins they are more grippy than say a 97-99a. Fast and don't bounce is true and the most desirable aspect of these as a soft wheel. Durable and slidey.

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I've found that they're extremely slippery on asphalt too!

感覺它的硬度剛好設定在一個很好切的硬度 可能很挑場地

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

對，沒錯！可是我還是滿好奇我聽說Bones要出的95A，因為我有時候覺得龍的93A有點軟

@user-gi8ow2kx7g

Жыл бұрын

@@JonHomYT 這個硬度真的比較少，初淺猜Bones也想站好自己的位子，玩街滑的人變多了去研發的新產品 但可能真的還是需要在微調，覺得95A可能更適合一點

I'm 37...you do not look 38!

@JonHomYT

10 ай бұрын

I turn 39 in a month :( hahaha

Mask while skating…why?

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

Used to it!

@justjosh_

Жыл бұрын

@@JonHomYT noooooo...lol

Why are you wearing a mask skateboarding outdoors?

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

I've honestly come to a point where I've forgotten that I'm wearing it sometimes!

@danielmyers7679

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for saying something about that...

u are 38 y.o? wtfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

@JonHomYT

Жыл бұрын

38 in about a week, yeah!