Timestamps for spells: Melkoth's Mystifying Miasma: 0:50 The Enfeebling Foe: 1:42 The Penumbral Pendulum: 3:06 Withering: 4:25 Pit Of Shades: 5:27 Okkam's Mindrazor: 6:33 For quick reference.

@PartyElite

7 жыл бұрын

Again, great thought here! Will keep this in mind for future magic videos, and am adding these to the description!

Pit of shades wrecks beastmen armies, especially when you can funnel them into a narrow channel on the map. At first there's all these angry bestigors and then, it's like a black hole just landed in a cattle market. Moo!

@PartyElite

7 жыл бұрын

Haha - Pit of Shades is quite glorious, and I might be changing my mind on the Pendulum after seeing it in action. Though against other humans, it's a little different compared to using it against the AI.

I just started watching these videos for some insight into magic (I wanted to play a magic heavy game and not rely so heavily on my melee lords). These videos are great, very informative, well described and overall helpful. Thanks so much :). Just a side question while I'm here: Which would you say is your favorite lore of magic to use?

Also Warriors of Chaos has the lore of Shadows now too. Thanks for the great video, PartyElite! :D

These are pretty awesome. Will you cover the missing lores though? That's be great.

This all seems a bit..shady.

@PartyElite

7 жыл бұрын

I was wondering why all the footage looked darker than usual!

Lore of Shadows was amazing in tabletop, especially for elves. Good to see it's retained that in the transition to total war. I want to do a wood elves campaign, it's seriously going to be a tough choice between shadows and life.

@PartyElite

7 жыл бұрын

It really is a powerful lore - that vortex spell is probably one of my favourites (to murder with, and also to watch). I feel like Shadow is going to be the way to go more often than Life.

@lancerd4934

7 жыл бұрын

PartyElite turns out taking a branchwraith instead of a spellsinger gives spells from both. I ended up finishing the long campaign with one army using a shadow lore spellsinger (Orion) and the other using a branchwraith (Durthu) and both worked well. I probably used the shadow spells more often than the life ones since the wood elf units are small and so reinforce quickly, they don't suffer attrition and they can set up a settlement anywhere, so replacing casualties between battles isn't a a problem at all. Therefore there's no reason to minimise losses during battles with lore of life spells.

Correction: When talking about Okkam's Mindrazor, you say that fighting against a high-armor opponent this is a must-have spell, but there is no special synergy vs high armor opponents. Okkams Mindrazor increases armor-piercing and non-armor-piercing damage separately and distinctively. If you throw a non-armor piercing unit that has like 20 non-ap-damage and only 2 ap-damage against an armored enemy, the damage will rise (lets take 50% for nice numbers) to 30 non-ap-damage and 3 ap-damage. If your Unit hads no ap-damage to begin with, it will not get ap to begin with, only it's non-ap damage will increase, but that non-ap damage is getting fully reduced by the enemies high armor. I.e. you must still match your damage types to the enemy armor, no matter if you use the spell or no. Granted, no matter how well you match, this is still an almost flat 50% damage increase, which is huge (and especially useful with hard hitting soft troops. Wardancers and wildriders spring to mind, forget about treekin), so still pretty useful in any situation. Just ... no special advantage vs armor by the spell itself.

@dhabu9017

6 жыл бұрын

That's a really good clarification; thank you for it.

Very helpful!

@PartyElite

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Glad to hear it =)!

Are there lots of other spells with effects that are not detailed in their tooltips? (i.e. Melkoth only shows the overcast version increases cast range)

0:07 its also available to chaos

As a vampire player, I frequently regret not taking the Lore of Shadows Vampiress almost ever in multiplayer battles. Sometimes versus dwarves or chaos I'd take her due to their heavy armor but 99% of the time I feel like the mana spent on shadow spells in not worth the mana that could be spent on Lore of Death's herosniping/unitsniping abilities or of course Lore of Vampires's healing & raise dead. Am I possibly overlooking something?

any tomb kings lords have this ?

Chaos didn't have this when released? o_0

I WILL MELT THEIR TINY MINDS

Thanks for a good guide. Good that CA gave lore of shadow to VC. Bad that they gave lore of life to Empire not to Bretonia.

@2Scribble

7 жыл бұрын

Bretonnia is about to launch as its own faction - it will probably get LOL on that date.

@PartyElite

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you! And I imagine 2Scribble is right - Bretonnia, with it's February release, will probably get quite a few changes!

you did not mention that also warriors of chaos have access to the lore of shadows

What is the deal with magic damage not scaling with units size? Is it fixed yet?

@liamcullen3035

7 жыл бұрын

Apparently they are fixing it for Warhammer 2 (and hopefully that means it will be patched into Warhammer 1 as well)

Shadows is even better in Game 2.

Don't the beastmen get this as well?

@InfiniteDeckhand

6 жыл бұрын

The beastmen have lore of death, not lore of shadows.

@mrfrost6211

3 жыл бұрын

@@InfiniteDeckhand they also get shadows

OHK-KHAMS not OH-CAN.

@PartyElite

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

aahh.....

Pit of Shades is looking fkn OP - I wish these idiots at CA had a clue about testing... Did a test with it vs Krimson Killerz - Flew a flying lord in so they bunched up, overcast and it left them with 945~ health - Did another test vs beastmen army (which pretty much naturally blobs) Not overcast left 3 units of Gors at 1/4 health, overcast is virtually wiped them out... *sigh* just when I was thinking of coming back to Multiplayer.

@lancerd4934

7 жыл бұрын

That's exactly what the pit has always been for on tabletop - it's a high cost nuke. The counter is to not blob up, and since it stays in place, move your units out of the way once it's cast. A human player will do that, even if the AI won't. It also means your wizard will become a no 1 priority target. This is how vortex spells are supposed to work, it's just that this is the first time it's been implemented properly.

@mrfrost6211

3 жыл бұрын

glad you didnt, bad enough dealing with everyone elses whining over lore or unit looks