This formation should be great for Empire after Thrones of Decay release, where Empire part of DLC is Nuln focused, so new juicy gunpowder units.

@MalleusGaming57

Ай бұрын

Omg bro yeah I'm so excited for Thrones units, Long Rifles and Repeaters are gonna be sooo good! with these formations1

@user-ti4di1uh2d

Ай бұрын

It might be a really bad idea to checker board with empire. Unlike high elf their artillery have a tendency to hit your own units if you place them in front of your artillery.

omg default formation. I never knew that was a thing. This video has greatly increased my gaming pleasure.

@MalleusGaming57

Ай бұрын

Right?! The first time I realized it was on I was like "wth is going on?!' I've found that sometimes with updates it re-applies that toggle so just keep that in mind should it start happening again randomly. Cheers bud!

This kind of detailed video makes me feel like you would literally be a king's ace advisor in war times

@MalleusGaming57

Ай бұрын

Hahaha thanks bro! I'd only take the job if I could have a magnificent moustache and Jafar's hat from Aladdin

Thanks for the checkerboard tutorials. It really elevated my gaming experience using gun units in TW.

@MalleusGaming57

Ай бұрын

Awesome I'm so glad to hear that! Thank you for watching bro!

I had an interesting battle just this night before watching this video. As Kislev I was fighting Clan Moulder. I brought many ranged units and set up on a hill but in case the emeny wasn't going to charge me I had prepared two light sleds, a Hag, two forest beast units to hide in the woods and I had two Calvelry units and a snow leopard. One Calv would be waiting for a chance to take out Moulder's only Warpfire Catapult. The enemy was in defense mostly. I charged the Hag and the war sleds to attack and lure the entire Skaven horde, dividing their forces, luring some to the woods to be slain by my beasts, the rest to my army of archers, Katarina's spells, and one Winged Husser unit. My Snow Leopard VS Throt alone near end game.

He's back! its been a while. I'm excited to see the return!

@MalleusGaming57

Ай бұрын

Thanks a lot bro! Nurgle tried to keep me down but SIGMAR PROTECTS!!!

Love this series, man! Thanks

@MalleusGaming57

Ай бұрын

Glad you're enjoying it bud! Thanks for watching!

Very informative and very interesting! Thank you so much 🙂

Enjoyed this video very much! I think I’ll enjoy a deep dive on the other formations too if you get around doing those :)

@MalleusGaming57

Ай бұрын

Thanks so much bro and yeah I'm definitely planning on doing a deep dive on (at the very least) the Chevron and Dwarf Diamond Formations

I really like your videos about formations !

@MalleusGaming57

24 күн бұрын

Thanks so much glad you enjoy them bro!

A grand display of tactics, M'lord.

@MalleusGaming57

Ай бұрын

Thank you good Sir Taurvanath!

Holy SHIAT, you just blew my mind. I did not know that units are placed in the order the unit cards are clicked. Thank you!

@MalleusGaming57

11 күн бұрын

Haha it's so helpful isn't it? Glad I could be of service bro!

Nice video. Thanks for sharing. Can't wait to give this a try.

@MalleusGaming57

21 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching bud glad you enjoyed it! Let me know how it goes

Thank you! I needed this

@MalleusGaming57

Ай бұрын

Thank you for watching bro glad it could be useful for you!

Very helpful tutorial

@MalleusGaming57

Ай бұрын

Thanks so much glad you found it so! Cheers bud!

Amazing vid so helpful

Loving the Tactics videos! I would love to see a skirmish playstyle, such as skaven or wood elves. I never know how to correctly use them

@MalleusGaming57

Ай бұрын

Something like Hit and Run Guerilla style tactics? I’ve got something I was thinking of doing for that actually, planning on working on it after my next vid

Strategery! As George W would no doubt say, if he ever played the game. Thanks for this, my brother in Sigmar, much love.

@MalleusGaming57

26 күн бұрын

Haha thanks for watching my bro! I'm glad you enjoyed it and I'm proud to spread the gospel of FAITH, STEEL AND GUNPOWDER! FOR SIGMAR!!!

Keep up with the keybinds and small explanations. I've dumped so much time into this game with very little research and I'm learning alot on top of the checkerboard itself.

@MalleusGaming57

11 күн бұрын

Awesome glad that was helpful for you bro! I'll try and keep that going for future vids!

Need to try it!

@MalleusGaming57

11 күн бұрын

Let me know how it goes for you bro!

I think checkerboard is the best for dwarves.I would only strengthen the flanks,and placed strong artillery in the rear.What do you think?

@MalleusGaming57

Ай бұрын

Yeah bud Checkerboard works so well with Dwarfs! I can't wait to try out their new units from ToD and see how effective they are with it!

@sypul88

Ай бұрын

@@MalleusGaming57 I miss another great tactic from the 17th century in Warhammer. Do you know the military camps of the Zaporozhian Cossacks? They were masters of this tactic. Their infantry was very strong in the 17th century. It's a pity that such camps are missing as units in Warhammer.Greetings😊

@DarkFenix2k5

Ай бұрын

Chevrons work better for gunpowder factions in my experience, in fact it's in another video on this very channel.

@christianweibrecht6555

Ай бұрын

In my dwarf formations, lord & heroes stand in front of straight shooters

@danmillet

Ай бұрын

I use chevrons you just have to make sure your artillery is superior so they will come to you. I think checkerboard works best with the high elves as even your front line can be lothern spear guard so literally every unit is an archer

Love the checkboard formation, especially with hybrid gunners like the streltsi or amethyst ironsides. Even if you get outflanked, they'll still be fine lol

@MalleusGaming57

13 күн бұрын

Especially some Cweeperz Streltsi, they’ll kick all sorts of ass! Haha cheers bud!

Bro i didnt know control grouping ordered your units from when you added them to the group. Thats like such a small thing that will help me big time. Youre a legend!

@MalleusGaming57

13 күн бұрын

Haha awesome glad that helped you out bro! Yeah it’s crazy how useful that is but like I don’t know if the game ever really tells you that. Cheers bud!

@Clint_Beastwood

13 күн бұрын

@@MalleusGaming57 of all the info videos I've seen throughout the years I've been using this tip the most. Much love brother.

From my experience checkerboard is terrible for gun units as they can only shoot straight forward (unless on high ground) I have been placing them in a straight line spaced out, so they don't clip into eachother when rotating. I keep my infantry in tall lines (vertical if looking from the front or back of army) so enemies spill around the sides in an attempt to surround, but get annihilated by my blackpowder units.

Thanks!

@MalleusGaming57

12 күн бұрын

Bro thank you so much!

In regard to "hope everyone gets something out of it" I've got thousands of hours over the total war games and only today found out what order I ctrl select stuff effects it's drag drop position. Here I was shuffling the unit cards around... XD

@MalleusGaming57

13 күн бұрын

Yo awesome glad that helped you out then bro! It’s so helpful but so annoying that the game doesn’t really make that clear. Cheers bud!

amazing ty

@MalleusGaming57

Ай бұрын

Thank you for watching bud, glad you enjoyed it!

A yes the good ol' checkerboard, still work even to this day. I use this a lot back in Warhammer II because I saw Legend use it a lot back then. I like it because it also didn't take much micro management.

@MalleusGaming57

11 күн бұрын

That's something I love with it too, you can set it up and for the most part it'll do its thing which allows you to really focus on your cavalry or other parts of your army! Why complicate things right? Cheers bro!

By Sigmar, yes! The chosen formation for those wielding steel, faith, and gunpowder.

@MalleusGaming57

21 күн бұрын

FOR SIGMAR! FOR THE HELDENHAMMER! FOR THE EMPIRE!

Much better than your last video (which was still good). I've thousands of hours in Total War games since the original Medieval Total war and this has really helped me in terms of easy setup.

@MalleusGaming57

20 күн бұрын

Awesome glad to hear that!

The only thing that beats the checkerboard formation? The chessboard formation

@MalleusGaming57

26 күн бұрын

Lmao just wait until the Monopoly Guy shows up, we'll all be doomed!

Another nice video. This simple formation is one of those old fashioned effective ones. I'm currently curious if you have any ideas for the future involving armies with stalk (primarily because I'm in the middle of an Anith Anar campaign myself before the dlc). I imagine such an army would likely be used either with the lizardmen and their chameleon skinks or the High Elves and their Shadow warriors, possibly the skaven as well with their gutter runners and death runners. Anyways, keep up the good work.

@MalleusGaming57

Ай бұрын

Thanks so much bro glad you enjoyed the vid! I'm definitely planning on looking into more ambush style battles and tactics, a mainly stalking army would be so cool to work with! Cheers bud there'll be more vids coming

Now i understand why I never got it working and why archers always sucked for me😂 settings never even allowed for it. Thanks great vid!

@MalleusGaming57

4 күн бұрын

Yeah man it's a tricksy setting and seems to catch a lot of people out! Glad I could be of assistance bro haha cheers I appreciate it!

Thank you

@MalleusGaming57

Ай бұрын

Thank you for watching bud!

Great video! How about a "how to do ambushes" next? Preferably from both sides

@MalleusGaming57

Ай бұрын

Thanks so much! That'll be really cool to do, I've been wanting to do more with ambush battles, I'll add it to the list!

Are there more melee animations when khorne and kislev are fighting? I’ve never seen blocking effects before.

You have changed the game for me sir.

@MalleusGaming57

Ай бұрын

Great to hear bro! Hopefully changed for the better haha glad this could be helpful for you

@olnasty

Ай бұрын

@@MalleusGaming57 absolutely for the better. Saw your similar video, and played an ikit campaign used the checker with the rattling gunners, and had an excellent time. Thanks my man!

I'd love a chevron formation guide! I know you have an older one

@MalleusGaming57

28 күн бұрын

Cheers bro that’s definitely coming! Gonna do an in depth guide for each formation I’ve quickly covered before 😁

2 things: 1) you have to fight a lot. I assume nobody will sped much time on selecting, moving units. and 2) a compact square skirmish unit is also ineffective since only first raw will actually shoot, most of the time.

@MalleusGaming57

4 күн бұрын

I tend to manually fight my battles more than auto resolve yeah. At least in the Warhammer games I've found that the entire blackpowder unit will shoot regardless of their shape

As you say square formation can rotate in less time . As a tips for the players you can rotate pressing ctrl in addition to alt. However if you want the unit tourn around (for example because the enemy is attacking exactly from back or your range unit is returned in combat so point in the wrong direction) you can simply press 'j'. Is really more fast tan turn with the command or select with the mouse and this can make difference. The cons of j is that work one unit at time and is not usable for rotate do left or right

@MalleusGaming57

Ай бұрын

Bro that is awesome thanks so much for the tips! I knew about pressing J with Cavalry to get them to pull out of combat but didn't know it'd make the infantry units turn around. Cheers bro!

Wish CA would balance more towards these kinds of tactics instead of OP single entity cheese and doomstacks

@MalleusGaming57

23 күн бұрын

Yeah I feel you, I'm a Warhammer table top player at heart so I far prefer actual army tactics rather than spamming units

@Brett-uq4tz

22 күн бұрын

Have you ever thought of trying the swiss pike square with empire halberdiers?​@@MalleusGaming57

9:40 I found that as empire, you can use either of the canons to completely fck over any flying units attempting to flank. Especially with Nuln. Upgraded Nuln canons vaporizes anything flying.

@MalleusGaming57

28 күн бұрын

Is that with the Grapeshot ability? I haven’t used Cannons in my Elspeth playthrough, been spamming Helstorms

@briancho237

24 күн бұрын

@@MalleusGaming57 Yup, that or the helblaster volley gun

Those small guard units like tzar guard benefit from the single line formations. In addition, they are not ideal field troops, Heavy armor guards or units like ice guard, are better placed holding valuable possessions and are not best equipped for field warfare. Not to mention they'll be targets. Instead use light cavalry and kossars, armoured and normal, to setup the field and support with light war machines. You can leverage their maneuverability to carry the day. And mobilizing guard units without LLords can be a needless expense.

@MalleusGaming57

16 күн бұрын

That is some good advice, I need to play more with the War Sleds, though Winged Lancers and Gryphon Legion are great fun

Shit, I just tried it and it works really well for the dwarves!

@MalleusGaming57

17 күн бұрын

Awesome! Glad it's been helpful for you bro

How should I group my army up after setting this up? I can get the formation going, but once the battle starts it just becomes chaos trying to manage the groups.

From the ashes a great malleus general arise. But what about the chungus faction (Ogres). Is this formation good for them, or is there another for the big ladz? Great video anyways :).

@MalleusGaming57

Ай бұрын

Haha Nurgle's blessings couldn't keep me down, my faith in Sigmar is too strong! Cheers bro and that's a very interesting question, I haven't played much with the Ogres but I'll have to check out how their shooting interacts with their units. Off the top of my head I could picture a line of Leadbelchers with a screen of Gnoblars but no idea how effective that'd be. I'll have to look into it!

What "unit size" setting are you using?

@MalleusGaming57

Ай бұрын

It's at Large

Does this work well in Warhammer 2 as well? I'm waiting for the next steam sale to get WH 3!

@MalleusGaming57

17 күн бұрын

Absolutely, I started using this back in Warhammer 1, it works in pretty much any of the Total War games

@willfarthing4699

17 күн бұрын

@@MalleusGaming57 amazing thank you! I'm gonna try it tonight...

Thanks for this. Shooting through your own guys is all good fun when they're goblins, but for humans it's kind of a whole big deal.

@MalleusGaming57

Ай бұрын

Haha those silly humans get all upset when you accidentally shoot them, what a bunch of nerds 😆Cheers bud glad you enjoyed the vid

@cyberpunkfalangist2899

17 күн бұрын

There's a good mod series called logic hammer that addresses that issue

@MalleusGaming57

16 күн бұрын

@@cyberpunkfalangist2899 oh cool what does it do? More morale penalties or something?

@cyberpunkfalangist2899

16 күн бұрын

@@MalleusGaming57 changes range calculations and trajectories of range based on more realistic expectations you can read it in the stream workshop as part of a SFO sub mod group

The most interesting thing is how u made the VFX of the gane look that great, because in mine, idk what it is but the magical glows and all the other stuff looks pixelayed and awful, im guessing its because i play in 1080, but idk

@MalleusGaming57

11 күн бұрын

I play at 1080 as well, otherwise my settings are mainly Ultra or High.

Does this work with canons as a second line?

@MalleusGaming57

4 күн бұрын

Like cannons in place of gunners? Yeah it could work, it'd give them a clear line of sight, I'm not sure how much damage they'd do in comparison to sustained handgun fire and they'd be way more cumbersome to move. I would imagine that Grapeshot Cannons would annihilate though!

Why not make checkerboard where ranged units are squares, but mellee units are lines?

@MalleusGaming57

Ай бұрын

If the Melee units are lines they'll likely take more damage faster since more of them are in model to model contact with the enemy troops. Also I forgot to mention this in the vid but by being more compact they have more mass so its harder for enemy units like Cavalry to punch through them. If they're in a thin line there's more of a chance the enemy could just penetrate through into your ranged units

There's a name for this historically, and it's called a tercio.

@MalleusGaming57

17 күн бұрын

Yeah I covered Tercios in a couple of videos

The flamethrowers are not a good option. Your units get fried and debuffed as well

@MalleusGaming57

Ай бұрын

Yeah I’ve noticed that happening more in this update, didn’t seem to be much of a problem before in other formations I’ve done so I feel like somethings changed, gonna have to do more testing

@followernumber1

Ай бұрын

@@MalleusGaming57 hopefully in new update they can make them more practical. Like halving the damage done to friendly units

more

@MalleusGaming57

11 күн бұрын

MOAR!!!

Comment for the comment god! Likes for his throne.

@MalleusGaming57

Ай бұрын

Praise be ye in service to the Dark Gods!

I personally dislike the checkerboard and don't recommend it when fighting stronger armies or well mixed enemies. Main issues with it is that if you put your units into squares, they become prime targets for enemy artillery and spells, long thin lines take far less damage. Another issue I have with is terrain. Many maps just don't have good flat land or nice big hills to camp on. This is easy to miss from top down view but putting a gun infantry behind a slightly elevated ground is a bad idea and they won't fire at all. Then, when facing enemy army with a lot of long range units, they're gonna just sit there and pummel your front lines, while your ranged squares are out of range.. and finally, flying units and summons. If they land a dragon or something between 2 ranged boxes at the back, they turn to face each other and cause a ton of friendly fire.

P

why the clickbait lord

@MalleusGaming57

Ай бұрын

Cuz I like her moxie

Against other players it won't work. Human player will flank this formation or break through using magic and combination of units.

@Search_In_Google

26 күн бұрын

against elves ot won't work either, they will shoot you down with their 180m range units.