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Saw you with Leighton Flowers on Soteriology101 - liked, shared and subscribed 😃

@huntsman528

Жыл бұрын

Smelley Flowers taking on Tulip!

@pointofdefensewithjohncrawford

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing the truth!

@cecilspurlockjr.9421

Жыл бұрын

@@huntsman528 how old are you btw ? You've gotta be a James white follower because you say childish things in a grown up atmosphere just like he does . lol

Thank you, sir, for a clear, SCRIPTURAL presentation of the FULL picture we are given of God's story. Especially when you "pull back the curtain" of Paul's purpose in Romans 1! I never realized that he was using "snippets " from the Old Testament --something that he EXPECTED the readers to understand 😮 His purpose was to show our inability on our own to be saved, NOT that we have a despicable nature from the womb🙌🏻

Thank you for tucking Romans 3 back into its context, Pastor!!! And the other proof texts of Calvinism, as well.

Great job

Adam talked with God in the garden after the fall

This was positively incredible! I'm going to listen to it again, take notes and do some additional study. I have never heard anyone teach that we are right now experiencing the wrath of God, and that many make the mistake that God's wrath means "X". It makes a lot of sense to me. I loved your exegesis of 1 Corinthians. This was truly a gift from God to me! Thank you very much!

@Mattissaved

Жыл бұрын

Just to be crystal clear… The Bible says …. Acts 13:48 [48] Now when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and glorified the word of the Lord. And as many as “had been appointed to eternal life believed.” Smelley says….”they believed and were appointed to eternal life” Beware he completely reverses the order in his theology… This is how false teachers work, very subtlety

@sharonlouise9759

Жыл бұрын

@@Mattissaved I have listened to many teachers on Acts 13:48 and the jury is still out for me. Thanks for caring about my soul. Blessings to you!

@Mattissaved

Жыл бұрын

@@sharonlouise9759 That’s great Sharon….i think it’s really a good idea to listen to many teachers on both sides of the aisle on this topic…hence thats why I’m listening to Smelley on his objections to Calvinism. When you understand your oppositions position you learn not to misrepresent your opposition & you learn a thing or two that you may have not known previously. Learning is a good thing whether you endorse it or not. But when the goodness and loving kindness of God our Savior appeared, He saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to His own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit, whom He poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that being justified by His grace we might become heirs according to the hope of eternal life." (Titus 3:4-7) The debate is fun and difficult at times, but never lose focus of what’s really important to share.. Romans 6:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God Romans 3:10-18 10 as it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one; 11 no one understands; no one seeks for God. 12 All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.” 13 “Their throat is an open grave; they use their tongues to deceive.” Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 5:8 but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 10:9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. Romans 10;13 For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” God bless you as well and have a wonderful and blessed holiday season.

@sharonlouise9759

Жыл бұрын

@@Mattissaved I believe all the verses you listed. Thank you for your blessing. May God bless you and your loved ones!

@igorbogoslov3256

7 ай бұрын

​@Mattissaved regarding Acts 13:48. Read the original text in Greek. The why Smelley explained it is the original text.

AMEN!

Total Depravity" is a concept that has been "comprehended" humanistically. John Calvin does not imply that man is separate from God's creation and directives. He implies that man in his fallen state is incapable of saving himself and putting himself "in Christ" as the Apostle Paul has written.

Do not sinners love those who love them?

It appears no one can answer this. No man CAN come to me unless it has been granted by the Father. JOHN 6:65, or ALL that the Father gives me WILL come to me . JOHN 637a. The natural man does not seek after the things of God, neither can he know them for they are Spiritually discerned. 1 CORINTHIANS 2:14 It is by His doing you are in Christ Jesus. 1 CORINTHIANS 1:30 As as many as were Appointed to Eternal life believed. ACTS 13:48 Just because this man is learned does not mean he's correct.

@SisterBaby

5 ай бұрын

All the references you gave are famous for having been ripped out of their contexts and made to bolster the false claims of men who are also learned--- but not in the Scriptures, as much as in Reformed confessions and catechisms.

@adrianhardwick6271

5 ай бұрын

I still haven't heard a satisfactory answer to "why does he find fault?" Who would question God like that when all he is doing wth the clay is punishing freewill agents using their agency to si and do evil? Who would call that unjust? In what way does God add consequences to actions of free will agents lead Paul to say "who are you o man to reply against God?" Can the leopard change its spots or the Ethiopian his skin? NEITHER can you change your ways who are accustom to evil. Moses said God has delivered you from Egypt but like Jobs ostrich he has deprived men of a discerning heart yo understand hence there is NONE that understands etc

Brilliant!!! Thank you!!! SO good and well-delivered!!! Here's some of my thoughts on it all... ; ) Welcome to the world of Calvinism. The following words found throughout holy Scripture will now be highly logically problematic - both to the natural reasonable man, and the spiritually illumined one: "If" "Reward" "Choose" "Punishment" (now practically meaningless and totally incoherent in light of the Reformed theory of compatibalism and irresistible / effectual grace) The following words will now also have to be somewhat "tweaked" (utterly changed from what they clearly and simply mean)... "Love" "Desires" "World" "Sovereign" "Whoever" "All" Finally you need to get used to cherry picking a couple of verses outside of the context of the entire swathe of the Book, Epistle or Gospel where they are found, and conflate and confuse individual justification / incorporation into Christ with corporate ministry and election. Oh! And please DO NOT research about how Augustine of Hippo practically reinvented the meaning of the word "Predestination" or the view of the human will and its relation to the Divine one as it was classically understood in the early Christian Church, and how one of his greatest fans - John Calvin - picked up this novel (non Christian) doctrine (double predestination) in the 16th century and stuck it on steroids: John Calvin calling it "the terrible doctrine" - which it is of course - but not for the same reasons he was applying the term... Now that you're a Calvinist you will be keenly aware that this doctrinal system (see the doctrines of grace) seems to tarnish the character of God and human moral responsibility and accountability (even though it sincerely and rightly seeks to stress the primacy of grace)... but remember! You are honoring God and His Scripture by swallowing this hard to swallow view of Sovereignty (meticulous determinism), Election and Reprobation (unconditional election), and man only having the illusion of free will (total depravity / inability)... The thing is though (between you and me and the entire Christian East and much of the West who do not hold to Augustinian Calvinism, and who all but you minority of Reformed folk, reject double predestination) you're not actually honouring God or his word in conforming to this system, you're actually simply honouring the thoughts of these men and their interpretive tradition) 😬✌️💚😂

1 Corinthians 214 refutes the whole argument . You said that “there is no explicit teaching that man cannot understand the gospel.” “The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.

@timothyrogers1964

Жыл бұрын

The gospel is different from the things of the spirit. It is simple and is a starting point for everyone. Calvinism takes away the power of the gospel. In Calvinism you don’t really need the gospel. Just the golden ticket of election. The rest is just a perfunctory process. The cross is no big deal. Like winning the lottery, Jesus is just the taxi driver taking you to the lottery department.

@livingforjesus8551

8 ай бұрын

Look at Romans 1, because those natural man can understand, and clearly see. If you back up in 1 Corinthians 2, uou will see that Paul was talking about the deep things of God, and if you continue onto chapter 3, and can see that Paul told them, that he could only feed them the milk of God, because they were in their natural state, and could not bare the meat of God's word. The Corinthians were being carnal, and they could not accept the deep things of God, but they could accept the milk of God's word. The gospel is the milk of the word. Romans 1:18-23 King James Version 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; 19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

1 John 4:8 describes Agape love which christians recoeve the ability to love like God. Unbelievers cannot love like God because they do not know Him. What standard do we use to measure whether we have loved someone or not? The standard of all love is God. It begins and ends with Him

@livingforjesus8551

8 ай бұрын

Jesus said that the lost can love and do good, just like the saved does. Jesus also said, greater love hath no man, than this, that he lay down his life for a friend. Lost people sacrifice their lives all the time for their friends, and Jesus said, there is no greater love than that. So, no, they can love just like God can.

@livingforjesus8551

8 ай бұрын

Jesus not only showed us the standard, but also told us the standard, which is is to love your enimies, and to sacrifice yourself for your friends, lost people do that all the time.

Debate James White !

Calvinism in a nutshell. God created an entire world of people, in His image, who hate Him, who are His enemies. Then He forcefully picks some to not hate Him and…. to bring Him glory, He torments the rest for all eternity. whaaaah?😦😦

My understanding is that God gives unrepentant humans over to the full consequence's of their sin in this world right now in this life. When they feel those consequence's and want to escape them, there is no escape.

@jugglerjoe9478

Жыл бұрын

I beleve all there life they won't repent but on judgment day then they will be begging but it's to late

@passionforbiblicaltruth8288

Жыл бұрын

@@jugglerjoe9478 Yes it will be too late then.

@63stratoman

Жыл бұрын

That will be the reality of HELL and I cannot help but think that perhaps the sinful desires tormenting them may be worse than the flames or perhaps they may be the flames themselves? Today we have common grace restraining and keeping mankind from becoming as sinful as they could possibly be. Consider all of the sinful desires of your heart that make you shudder, that you would be ashamed to ever admit. In this life, we have the ability to escape from such depraved thoughts by redirecting our minds to other activities or perhaps using alcohol or drugs to dull our senses. In Hell, there is no escape from the absolute sinful depravity that is ourselves and for an unregenerate man, it is something that will eat him alive for all eternity! If the flames are literal. perhaps it is a move of compassion on God's part to dull their senses from the torment of their own sin? I think of all this and I sure am glad I am SAVED and will one day be delivered from this body of sin!

@timothyrogers1964

Жыл бұрын

As long as there is life there is hope

@SisterBaby

5 ай бұрын

@@timothyrogers1964 I was just about to write:"While there's breath, there's still hope"!!! 🙂 I have heard testimonies of death-bed conversions, so I know what you've said it true. Thank God. I can only hope that my brother, who died of Covid, was one of them.

There are a lot of non christain who do good things I know people who aren’t christain that do good things

Depravity is a fact of life but inability is a Gnostic lie brought to Christianity by Augustine of hippo who was a mannichean Gnostic for 15 years before he joined the church and eventually went back to his Gnostic distinctives but stayed in the church while doing so .

Romans 5:12 "Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned--" People are born sinful. Dead spirtually. Philippians 1:29" For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for him," Faith is a gift of God.

@livingforjesus8551

8 ай бұрын

This is also in Romans 5, says that the free gift came upon all man. Romans 5 KJB 18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

@kevinjodrey7664

8 ай бұрын

@livingforjesus8551 Yes. But his death did not save everyone. That would be Universalism. People have to have a personal relationship with Jesus. Romans 5:19 KJV-"For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous."

@livingforjesus8551

8 ай бұрын

@@kevinjodrey7664 I know his death didn't save anyone. Calvinists say that Jesus didn't die for everyone, but he did. There are other scriptures that says he did also.

@kevinjodrey7664

8 ай бұрын

@livingforjesus8551 The Gospel is to be preached to everyone and presented to everyone but there are only certain people that will accept it, so his death is only for those people. If not then there would be people in Hell who Christ died for, and then his death would not have saved them, and that can't be.

@livingforjesus8551

8 ай бұрын

@@kevinjodrey7664 Who said that cannot be, that those people in hell, Jesus couldn't have died for them. That is not in scripture at all. Peter even said that there are false teachers that end uo in hell, but Jesus still bought them. Jesus said, he came to seek and to save that which is lost. Every one is lost, so, that means he came to seek and to save everyone. Paul said, this is a faithful saying, that Jesus came into the world to save sinners. If you are a sinner, congrats, Jesus came to save you. What else did Paul say, everyone is a sinner, that means Jesus came for everyone. 2 Peter 2:1-3 King James Version 2 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

Calvinism is Biblical Christianity. Prove me wrong if u can. I know u cant but amuse me

@ericonermaa8681

7 ай бұрын

If a person is unable to hear and believe the gospel under Calvinism Why preach to persuade so that they may believe? Why did Jesus speak in parables? Why does Satan blind minds? Why send a strong delusion so they might not believe? Why did Jesus say ye are unwilling to believe ? How can the unrighteous hold the truth in unrighteousness? Why are hearts hardened? Why did the LORD look, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God?

@SisterBaby

5 ай бұрын

Calvinism is extra-biblical Christianity. No one would become a "Calvinist" if they stuck with Scripture only. The only way to learn it is to be introduced to it it through a Calvinist author, preacher, or teacher... who also learned it from a Calvinist author, preacher, or teacher... or who has been a student of systematic theology.

@emilesturt3377

Ай бұрын

Welcome to the world of Calvinism. The following words found throughout holy Scripture will now be highly logically problematic - both to the natural reasonable man, and the spiritually illumined one: "If" "Reward" "Choose" "Punishment" (now practically meaningless and totally incoherent in light of the Reformed theory of compatibalism and irresistible / effectual grace) The following words will now also have to be somewhat "tweaked" (utterly changed from what they clearly and simply mean)... "Love" "Desires" "World" "Sovereign" "Whoever" "All" Finally you need to get used to cherry picking a couple of verses outside of the context of the entire swathe of the Book, Epistle or Gospel where they are found, and conflate and confuse individual justification / incorporation into Christ with corporate ministry and election. Oh! And please DO NOT research about how Augustine of Hippo practically reinvented the meaning of the word "Predestination" or the view of the human will and its relation to the Divine one as it was classically understood in the early Christian Church, and how one of his greatest fans - John Calvin - picked up this novel (non Christian) doctrine (double predestination) in the 16th century and stuck it on steroids: John Calvin calling it "the terrible doctrine" - which it is of course - but not for the same reasons he was applying the term... Now that you're a Calvinist you will be keenly aware that this doctrinal system (see the doctrines of grace) seems to tarnish the character of God and human moral responsibility and accountability (even though it sincerely and rightly seeks to stress the primacy of grace)... but remember! You are honoring God and His Scripture by swallowing this hard to swallow view of Sovereignty (meticulous determinism), Election and Reprobation (unconditional election), and man only having the illusion of free will (total depravity / inability)... The thing is though (between you and me and the entire Christian East and much of the West who do not hold to Augustinian Calvinism, and who all but you minority of Reformed folk, reject double predestination) you're not actually honouring God or his word in conforming to this system, you're actually simply honouring the thoughts of these men and their interpretive tradition) 😬✌️💚😂

But they would do a lot better if they would give their Hearts to christ

Free will in Spiritual things is a fallacy.

@SisterBaby

5 ай бұрын

Tell that to Jonah.

I do not know whether man has the inability to seek after God but scriptures are clear that, left to themselves, no one WILL seek after God! You can look up the bus load of scriptures for yourself. You mentioned the Gospel of John being the most anti-Calvinist Gospel? I sure am glad I wasn’t taking a sip of my coffee at the time!😂

@markdaniels1730

Жыл бұрын

"From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands. God did this so that they would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from any one of us." - Acts 17:26-27

@charlesgilbert5682

Жыл бұрын

Psalm 105:3 "...rejoice that seek the LORD." Prov 8:17 "...those that seek me early." Ezra 8:22 "God is upon all them for good that seek him." Lam 3:25 "...to the soul that seeketh him."

@charlesgilbert5682

Жыл бұрын

I've studied differential calculus but have not heard of differential geometry.

@63stratoman

Жыл бұрын

@@markdaniels1730 There is a "General Calling" and Acts 17:30 clearly commands ALL MEN (Without exception) to repent. All of mankind (Without exception) is commanded to repent and believe the Gospel. Christians are therefore commanded to preach the Gospel to ALL MEN (without exception) and then trust God that he will draw his elect to himself. This was the position of C. H. Spurgeon and is the position of most modern Calvinists who have some sort of public forum in which to speak (MacArthur, Sproul, Lawson, Piper, Baucham, Etc.). There are some who speak of man's inability to repent and believe the Gospel although I personally do not take it that far. I believe that a man left to his own free will, will always RUN FROM God and not TO God. He will choose darkness rather than the light just as Jesus stated (Jn 3:19). As I told my Sunday School class one day "You have complete freedom to eat right and exercise your body to become healthy, so why don't you?" The problem is therefore not that you are not able to but rather that you DON'T WANT TO!! You also need to consider just what exactly is regeneration (Being born again). Is it some sort of mental exercise where you are confronted with a bunch of facts and you give mental assent to the argument at hand? I submit to you that it is far more! It is supernatural, it is from God, and it is life changing! It is every bit as miraculous for the believer as it was for Lazarus when he was raised from the Dead! Those who are genuinely born again are born not of blood, not of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God (Jn 1:13)! On a Summer day in 1981, in Houston TX, I gave my life to Christ and, according to my understanding at the time, was the best decision I ever made! I later understood that something happened just prior that caused me to eagerly place my trust in Christ. Saying that regeneration precedes faith doesn't make sense and I don't think I could ever adequately describe it but it is an undeniable fact that I did not CHOOSE to be born but now that I am made alive, I want to live!

@markdaniels1730

Жыл бұрын

@@63stratoman "God did this so that they would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him"... if there is no such thing as a God-seeker you have pretty much rendered this text meaningless at best and false or misleading at worst.