We’ve had Thatcherism since 1979 which serves the interests of the wealthy. The problem with Thatcherism is that you eventually run out of assets like Thames Water to sell to investors so that they can rip off British consumers. 1. Reduce inequality by taxing the asset wealth of the rich. 2. Stop selling British assets and British companies to foreign control.

@sfactory8253

17 күн бұрын

And they ran out of oil pretty quickly . Those revenues could have been used for so much better .

@user-ee1zb1fn3y

17 күн бұрын

No we haven't. We ve had Blairism since 97. Cameron worshipped Blair and kicked out the actual conservatives MPs long ago, moving the party to left. Since then it's been giant tax and spend, woke gender nonsense and open borders. Running out of other peoples a money? That's Labours entire philosophy.

@ScruffyTubbles

17 күн бұрын

Have a look at the Reverse Multiplier theory.

@Yorosero

17 күн бұрын

So tax the wealthy and prevent foreign direct investment, eh? Well, that's one way of turning this country into a basket case.

@Tedsterbr1t

12 күн бұрын

Thatcherism (1979-1990) and Blairism (1997-present) are completely different ideologies.

Sunak was no politician - nor is Badenoch

@alasdaircook5673

17 күн бұрын

He was a corrupt banker.Made his money out of the financial crisis whilst working for Goldman Sachs. Happy bro make his wife a Non dom although she resided in No.10

This is why the Tories don’t deserve to be in opposition. Too much clown drama.

@marythorpe928

10 күн бұрын

And brazen lies, and corruption

I love how they take no responsibility, its like its everyone else's fault in the Tory party, but they are the best and never wrong

@shanjanusman9974

17 күн бұрын

I feel sad 😢 I thought The Conservative Party was for those who were from a poor background who wanted to join the upper classes. It's now a ragbag tabloid outlet.

@ArjunGhag-ix7te

17 күн бұрын

Kemi knifed Brexit in 1 - Vote of No Confidence against Boris (who is still 2nd most beloved by #Brexiteers after Nice Nigel) 2 - She backed disgraceful showtrail of Boris 3 - Voted against to block Brexit Truss 4 PM 4 - Backed Decision to rob members of their right to pick next Boss after Truss 5 - Kemi selected Sunak as PM without election. 6 - Kemi was castigated by Brexit Bull Dog Sir Bill Cash in commons for betraying Brexit

@Shikuesi

17 күн бұрын

If you noticed, that's exactly the opposite of what SB said on the night

@Dude-etiquette

17 күн бұрын

@@Shikuesi Yep I did notice, it was obvious that was she was faking it

@shanjanusman9974

17 күн бұрын

@@Dude-etiquette I find it very difficult to believe how The Tories ended up this way. As a lad from a privatised council estate I thought it was a party for those who wanted to elevate themselves in life. I was even a member myself once and it devastates me to see what they've become. The damage they've inflicted in the last few years mainly lockdown was the worst they did.

13:42 Sir Malcolm. Thatcherism wouldn’t work nowadays as you haven’t got much of Britain to sell off anymore has you guys turned Great Britain into a car boot sale and there is nothing left to sell.

@sfactory8253

17 күн бұрын

Plus the north sea oil revenues that were spaffed up the wall.

@jamesprivet

17 күн бұрын

Exactly

@jamesprivet

17 күн бұрын

@@sfactory8253 oil and gas revenues in the 1980s were used to cut taxe rates mainly for higher earners and the rich.

@ScruffyTubbles

17 күн бұрын

Also we've used the oil. Scotland think there's loads left tas well, but it was always Shetland and Hebridean oil.

@sfactory8253

17 күн бұрын

@@jamesprivet Exactly . We ended up with Lawson boom if I remember correctly and subsequent recession and negative equity .

She's part of the problem...

I think they should appoint a Savoy cabbage as next Tory leader. Shadow cabinet can be made up of kohl rabi, turnips and whatever vegetable comes to mind to reflect their 14 years in power.

@199019852007

17 күн бұрын

Turnip for the winter season

@TheGodpharma

17 күн бұрын

Savoy cabbages do last a bit longer than lettuces, so I suppose it would be an improvement.

@clintharrington9524

15 күн бұрын

Reminds me of the Spitting Image sketch when Thatcher is with the cabinet ordering dinner , she tells the waiter that she’ll have the Beef , “ and what about the vegetables ?“ asks the waiter, “ they’ll have the same as me” answers Thatcher.

Olukemi Olufunto Badenoch is a liar and a bully

@moomin7461

17 күн бұрын

She's got all the right qualities to be Tory leader then. 😂

@NuclearFridge1

15 күн бұрын

So, the perfect entry-level Tory MP then

The sooner these tories realise their mistakes the better.They've left the country in the worse state its ever been in.14 years of chaos

@JupiterThunder

17 күн бұрын

To be followed by even worse....😏

@ianworley8169

17 күн бұрын

​@@JupiterThunderYou've obviously decided your opinions in full, before events even take place. Good to see such balanced opinions.

@placemats1598

17 күн бұрын

@@JupiterThunder Couldn't get any worse than the previous idiots

@vincentvangogh8092

17 күн бұрын

Its not about mistakes they are inherently bad for the country simply vile and useless to 99 percent of the people of this country

@wleon4068

17 күн бұрын

@@ianworley8169 There will be worse to come under the red Tories.

Kemi brutally honests....seriously, she is deluded...she spent her time cherry picking economic data and talking up her trade deals that are not worth the paper they are written on.

@bryangeake5826

17 күн бұрын

Correct!!

@johngrundy9849

17 күн бұрын

She is what the Conservative party needs. Someone who will gather the party together and be brutally honest. Let's move on.

@bryangeake5826

17 күн бұрын

@@johngrundy9849 Badenoch is a morally vacuous liar!! If thats 'moving in' having her as their leader they will be in the wilderness for another electorial cycle at least!! So yes do indeed make her the Tory leader!!

@bennY-lz3wd

17 күн бұрын

And her so called trade deals aren't even trade deals. It's just an understanding between the UK and some US states to look at certain things favourably. Of course single states in the US cannot agree to a trade deal, only the US as a whole. Badenock doesn't have the mental capacity needed to lead a party. Then again neither did Boris Johnson...

@davesy6969

17 күн бұрын

She lied about the trade deals, lied about Canada and lied about the Post Office manglement scandal crossing her desk in 2019.

This is a smoke screen. The election wasn't lost because of personalities, or tactical errors made by Sunak. The 14 years of incompetence, scandal and cruel policies made them an unelectable shower. All these ex Ministers crawling out from behind the sofa should square up and apologise their role in the demise of their own time in power.

@cardwitch91

16 күн бұрын

Exactly. The moment Labour pulled themselves together and started to look like they could run a serious government, it was pretty much over for the Tories. Odds are they would’ve lost this election regardless of what happened, though probably not as badly as they have. By limping around for so long under Johnson, then allowing Truss to wreck the house before Sunak came in and stumbling through the last 18 months while his party ate each other alive was just the icing on the cake. It’s ironic to me that Kemi and Suella are happy to blame Rishi when they made his life far harder than they needed to, and essentially tarnished the reputation of this party far more than he did.

Oh, I had thought that Badenock was intelligent but if she thinks that Rishi Sunak was responsible for the Tory election disaster, she has really lost the plot.

@mobsiesixsixsix9785

17 күн бұрын

What made you think that? Was it the posh voice?

@mikelm222

17 күн бұрын

No

@_Stroda

17 күн бұрын

@@mikelm222 So, what did? She's made it clear time and time again that she isn't and that she's also utterly out of touch with the public. Just like the Conservative Party in general.

@mikelm222

17 күн бұрын

​. Perhaps I was comparing her with Dorries, Braverman and Truss :-)

@andybrice2711

17 күн бұрын

She didn't say he was solely responsible for the disaster. But he did make it a lot worse. They probably wouldn't have lost quite so many seats if he'd handled it better.

The Conservatives are currently in the dock at the court of public opinion, and a good lawyer would probably advise them just to keep quiet at the moment.

As an outsider absolutely loving the tory pain...please please elect Suella 😂

@bigtombowski

16 күн бұрын

Then we'll have her and the five Farages

She's not brutally honest she lies a lot 😂😂😂😂😂 Kemi Lie a Lot Badenoch

@TheTristanmarcus

17 күн бұрын

Or Kemi Bad Enoch 🤣🤮💩

@philippecahill1420

17 күн бұрын

Certainly Bad Enough

@ChrisWalker-fq7kf

16 күн бұрын

She often bends the truth, but not in this case.

@fricozoid1

16 күн бұрын

@@ChrisWalker-fq7kf she didn't mention herself in things to blame. She's the epitome of Tories: everyone else is to blame. The sign of a loud mouthed but truly weak person.

Did i STUMBLE across the Daily Mail by MISTAKE? The Times should be SLAMMED for overuse of CAPS!

@tommymorrison6478

17 күн бұрын

I AGREE COMPLETELY.

@daydays12

17 күн бұрын

the Times IS Daily Mail light

@boofuls

16 күн бұрын

It just reflects the magnitude of it

@charleswhite758

16 күн бұрын

Why do some people get triggered by capitals? Relax😂

@tommymorrison6478

16 күн бұрын

@@charleswhite758 Why do some people need to ask?

If Kemi Badenoch is one of the "hot favourites" for leadership that shows the Tories are still utterly clueless about where they went wrong (Cameron "modernisation", not Sunak, he's just an end product not the cause of their problems).

@ianinkster2261

17 күн бұрын

Badenoch doesn't represent Cameronism/Blairism. She's frequently talks about now, oddly enough, as being the time to break free of blairism.

@phYT01

16 күн бұрын

@@ianinkster2261 Yes she does. If it wasn't for self-proclaimed "heir to Blair" David Cameron sending the Conservative Party in the wrong direction we would never have heard of her even if she has now turned to bite the hand that fed.

@ianinkster2261

16 күн бұрын

@@phYT01 no I think she'd have a logical place in the right of the current party no matter what. She has an acute sense of historical narrative and the need for institutional recapture -- and is the only Tory to explicitly recognise the Tories as currently "Blairite" and that this ought to change.

@lewis123417

16 күн бұрын

I bet you've never voted tory in your life

@phYT01

16 күн бұрын

@@lewis123417 You bet wrong. I've voted for all sorts of parties over the years but never Labour.

Malcolm Rifkind the guy who in that sting a while ago said he didn't have a job and his rate for a mornings work was 13k, whilst he was an mp and head of a committee. Why does he still have a voice he's a self serving nobody.

I'm enjoying this

@frankcarter6427

17 күн бұрын

me too, it's beautiful to watch

@Ridersonthestorm8899

17 күн бұрын

Yep get the popcorn in, we can binge watch this over the next few months😀

@frankcarter6427

17 күн бұрын

@@Ridersonthestorm8899 cold beers and nachos - settle in and enjoy the show

@yuna-1971

17 күн бұрын

Popcorn everyone? Here..😂 🍿

The next successful Conservative leader isnt yet in Parliament

@nicks4934

17 күн бұрын

Or even born? 😂

@keithatkinson7649

17 күн бұрын

@@nicks4934 I wouldnt go that far, but I certainly think it'll take them 15 years to get back. Currently theyre not popular, but neither will Labour be after two terms. These things are cyclic.

@tommymorrison6478

17 күн бұрын

They said much the same thing in 1997 when Blair won, but they came back in 2010. A week is a long time in politics, right?

@countycod123

17 күн бұрын

Probably born but in secure accommodation. Unsafe to be allowed out 😅​@@nicks4934

@keithatkinson7649

17 күн бұрын

@@tommymorrison6478 They need to come to terms with the reasons for the defeat instead of being in denial. A lurch to the right wont help them.They tried that with William Hague,IDS and Michael Howard. You only win from the Centre. Badenoch and Braverman arent the answer, theyre the problem.

‘Bad Enoch’ is part of the Tory problem.

We saw the same thing with Truss vs Sunak. The Tory party membership will ALWAYS choose to most deluded and inappropriate option who tells them everything they want to hear. If that membership retains final say of the new Leader - the Tory party will never regain Power. ... Personally i am fine with this.

Win back the trust? They just need to shut up for the next 3 or 4 years.

@jamescarlyle5083

17 күн бұрын

15 years at least….

@chriswatson3464

17 күн бұрын

I never trusted the Tories.

@nauxsi

15 күн бұрын

It’s all the same.

This is exactly why the Tories lost. The basty infighting over the last few years. Maybe she is forgetting that she was part of the failed government.

I have cancelled my Netflix subscription as this drama looks far more interesting. It’s like a jungle.

Malcolm Rifkind compares Truss,Johnson and Corbyn and says they are similar,Corbyn has been an excellent member of parliament so much so he was re-elected as an independent,the other two failed their constituents and lied,one resigned rather than fight again ,the other lost a huge majority

Do we have no concerns in this country about her links to the heritage foundation in the states?

The best way to keep the tories out of power is to give them plenty of opportunities to talk to the media. That'll do it😮

@nauxsi

15 күн бұрын

Ooh I like it. They will be desperate for media attention.

"It cannot do any more harm" - Suella: "Hold my beer!"

There’s still a Conservative Party? Who knew?

@tommymorrison6478

17 күн бұрын

There hasn't been a conservative Conservative party since Thatcher's time.

Johnathan Pie put it best while watching election results on Thursday night, “it’s like watching the first 30 minutes of Saving Private Ryan”

People who lived in glass houses - who threw stones - (glass and stones everywhere) - shouldn't throw more stones. Bit pointless. 😊

Badenoch!? More like Bad-enough

The idea that the collapse pf the Tories was down to Sunak leaving the D Day event and calling an early election, shows how departed BadEnoch is from reality.

Both Badenoch and Braverman are too brash and full of themselves and long may they vie and tussle to lead the Tory party.

Please stop giving them airtime 🤢

Good to see everyone smiling here...😊

The biggest mistake was electing Tory MP s in the first place14 year ago. What the Tories did wrong ? was everything they touched.

Wouldn't be surprised if she said all this while holding her iPad to try and make herself look smarter...

It's my experience that Badenoch is ignorant and was incompetent in her role as BEIS Secretary.

How could Sunak do something unconstitutional when you really don't have a constitution!

@mobsiesixsixsix9785

17 күн бұрын

That gets me too. Badenoch is a joke.

@david-ec8zf

17 күн бұрын

Americanism. Presumably language from her colleagues in the heritage foundation

@joygibbons5482

16 күн бұрын

We do have a constitution, it’s just not codified.

@musiclover9361

16 күн бұрын

We DO have a Constitution. It's just that ours isn't contained within a single document. If we didn't have a Constitution, we could never have Constitutional crises and we've had several of those!

Dear Kemi is an engineer not a politician, she hasn't quite grasped the point of nuts and bolts!

They still do not get it. They are toast.

What would Enoch Powell nade of Bad-Enoch

@jenniferpierno6108

15 күн бұрын

What do the British think of have a Nigerian woman trying to be top of the Conservative Party?

Sunak is only thinking and therefore speaking more clearly and like an adult because the pressure is off him and on Starmer now…

Pass the popcorn!! 🎉

Perhaps Mr Crick should save his mirth for when the new government starts racking up successes. Oh, isn’t it all jolly! Aren’t the commentariat having such fun?! The security, safety and success of our nation is far too important to be discussed with such levity.

I’d never vote for party led by Baddenoch

Sunak was Badenoch but Kemi would be much worse. 😂

as the Times quoted a senior tory saying recently , " Badenoch could start a fight in an empty room"

Kemi Badenoch is not brutally 'honest' not sure she has ever told the truth in a select committee, and to talk about her party not understanding their defeat and suggesting Penny Mordaunt losing her seat was Sunaks fault is NOT UNDERSTANDING their deafeat. It was the electorate showing their disgust, not Sunak!

If Badenough is elected leader then the tories are toast!

@jenniferpierno6108

15 күн бұрын

Let them keep going with this mad plan. The Reform Party will replace the Conservative Party, starting with five white men in suits.

Kemi, responsible for how many wonderful trade agreements since Brexit? None, from recollection.

I thought black woman in hindsight was a Family Guy joke. Apparently not.

I hope Badenoch becomes the new Tory leader.... they will stay in opposition.

William Shakespeare would have written an epic production regarding the infighting amongst the Tories. I can almost see Rishi now, covered in blood surrounded by contenders saying " you to................"

… and yet Badenoch has been completely anonymous, despite being a minister, for well over a year. Thanks for piping up with your 'tough talk' Kemi.

Being direct is good being abrasive is bad. Come on tories get yourselves together.

Badenoch is more than a little responsible and should read up on history, specifically the Sonderfahndungsliste. She is very likely to be at the top of Farages' Sonderfahndungsliste.

That cow has never been honest in her life. She's the kind of person who would break a vase and blame the cat.

the tories were the worst advertisement for a private education!!!!

This is the first time I've agreed with Kemi Bedenoch and these jokers ask "did she go too far"

@mobsiesixsixsix9785

17 күн бұрын

When you find yourself agreeing with Badenoch then you're in trouble.

@andybrice2711

17 күн бұрын

@@mobsiesixsixsix9785 That's silly. Just because you generally disagree with someone doesn't mean you have to disagree with everything they say always.

@andybrice2711

17 күн бұрын

Did Kemi Badenoch go too far by saying things which most everyone agrees with, to people who need to hear them?

Thanks for posting

I bet that Badenoch did not say that she felt that her own theatrical "performances" or her lack of concrete ministerial performance was part of the reason for Tory electoral disaster. Empty vessels making the most noise and all that :)

Courtesy and decency in politics is an oxymoron. At question time ,politics live they behave like badly behaved adolescents worse like badly raised adolescents Basic politeness and humility have gone ,so has magnanimity in defeat.Blame culture rules.

Is Kemi British? Has anyone checked?

Hardline austerity from 2010 onwards disenfranchised so many people, a great deal of whom found solace in the culture wars and brexit which the tories themselves encouraged. The tory obsession with winning elections has led to a fractured society and ultimately fractured the tory party itself.

Its nice to see Malcolm still going strong

Conscription and disability hate. Sunak and Stride destroyed the party and they kept their seats.

We don't want her either.

It all seems very tribal. Kemi should know.

Kemi is never going to the leader, and they can bet on that !

To be fair Kemi said “bordering on unconstitutional”. What she means is, in this day and age, it is beyond ridiculous for a Prime Minister, especially an unelected one, to call a General Election 7 months before you need to, one you are almost certain to lose badly, without consulting the Cabinet.

@julianshepherd2038

17 күн бұрын

She should have said that But she lied.

@sampowell6240

17 күн бұрын

Sunak called the election as requested by Netanyahu so the news cycle took the focus off Israel and Gaza. Why did he go ahead with this request ???? Because he wants a job with a Jewish hedge fund in New York.

@richardcory5024

17 күн бұрын

It's not unconstitutional at all to do what Rishi Sunak did, in bringing forward the general election. Neither is it "bordering on unconstitutional" or anywhere near it. To say so is a straight out lie.

@IMAC1776

17 күн бұрын

@@julianshepherd2038 Where is the lie? She is talking in a Shadow Cabinet meeting, she is not making an address to the nation. The people in the meeting know the point she is making because 99% of them were as outraged as she is by Sunak calling an early election, he was almost certainly going to lose, without consulting them first.

@KevTheImpaler

17 күн бұрын

Nick Clegg got a law brought in to stop the prime minister calling an election with a vote in Parliament, but the Remainers abused that law to stop Boris Johnson from calling a general election when he had no majority, because Remainers were afraid of the electorate and wanted to re-run the referendum.

Kemi is the only leader in the house she is owning hte space marking her territory and this is the time to do it, it needs a clear out ofhte toxic weight to move on and she is the only one mature enough and brave enough to stand agaisnt the real threats to society ,

She's delusional. This was nothing to do with Sunak, but everything to do with Boris and Truss.

The children are playing up! The nanny is distraught but mater & pater are off somewhere enjoying themselves. Long may it continue as there is currently no cohesive force holding the Conservative Party together. Excellent situation

Great stuff!

Amazing (not) that now the teacher has left the classroom, the personalities of the former party members, which have always been there remember, are running free for all to endure. And they are not pleasant.

What I find brilliant is a Black and Asian women being at the forefront for Conservatism in the UNITED Kingdom and messy Northern Ireland. Love it!

Those words are music to my ears from old tory boy here "the partys been slaughtered".

Bit rich for Badenoch to ask Sunak to stay on when she's brutally cudgelling him like this.

Doing exactly what they’ve done for the last 14 years- slagging each other off and blaming rather than just rolling their sleeves up and concentrating on moving forward. They brought defeat upon themselves. Waiting to the Autumn for the GE would just have prolonged the agony.

What about the damage the Tories have done to the country

If Badenoch is the Tory party leader at the next election they will be down to 60 seats. She should become party leader.

@edwinkevin6741

15 күн бұрын

I want her to be in charge so that they keep on losing. Sunak knew he would have been kicked out by the greedy ones. He took them by surprise 😂

She's talking like she wasn't a terrible politician either. These people are deluded.

Tories biggest mistake was getting into power

The tory party members should choose the shortlist for leader, and the mp's choose who they want from that shortlist.

@Clare0116

16 күн бұрын

The WEF chose ALL of our Prime Ministers for 50+ years! They follow WEF orders to bankrupt and destroy our Country and retire suspiciously rich!

Thank you sir

Public trust?

The Conservatives face mission impossible. They need to figure out exactly where they stand politically, then present an (outwardly) united party, where discipline is strictly enforced. It's not going to happen, the party might as well split now.

Sunak's biggest mistakes was not ditching Rwanda scheme which he didn't like or being authentic as I never knew what he actually stood for.

@abhi739

16 күн бұрын

ditch it for what exactly, UK court judges wont allow any deportation at all unless a 3rd country accepts

@sandhurstwolves3956

16 күн бұрын

@abhi739 it was a gimmick everyone knew it

@abhi739

16 күн бұрын

@@sandhurstwolves3956 u don't understand the problem

@nauxsi

15 күн бұрын

Something that didn’t cost 159m for nothing in return.

It could absolutely get worse, you could fall to the third or fourth party . Please don't underestimate just how angry the public are with the previous government.

They appointed a leader in house without even taking it to the grassroots of the membership? what kind of result did the party expect with a leader who wasn't even wanted by the masses on a mandate from a previous leader who was actually elected? hope they are out of power for a long long time couldn't happen to a nicer bunch

The tories where too busy arguing with themselves and not running the country to many multimillionaires in the party

And it's lovely to watch.👌

Times radio platforming the excuses of the Tories with apologists like this lady, Most have people have had enough of the Tories and their pyscho dramas about time Murdoch recognised it too.

The tory circus continues. Send in more clowns. The show goes on.

I don't see the point in the tory party..what do they stand for except divide,rule hatred and greed..

What has happened to The Times? Once a bastion of conservatism not tending Woke.

@sniwashitu

16 күн бұрын

Murdoch isn't watching anymore it's globalisation

after losing u show ur true character, the tory members blaming one another instead of helping the party shows high level of arrogance