I currently have the the SR and used the Recycler for 15 years. The SR is well worth the price difference. It mulches better, much less clean up, bags way way better. And it is much better balanced. Rolls much better over uneven terrain and the flex handle not only feels better, it keeps the deck planted.

@mainstreetmower

4 ай бұрын

This comment is everything. Cannot agree more.

Love them Both!!!!! Need one.

@michaelmactavish4445

4 ай бұрын

im waiting on for kubota to bring there 21'' , 36'' , 48'' and 52'' walk behinds to my kubota dealer here in canada

Had a Toro years ago said "Guaranteed to Start" right on top of the motor, it was the hardest starting mower I ever owned!

I have a 2021 SR with the Honda engine. Great mower that out preforms my Honda HRX217. Basically only use the Honda for early Spring and Fall leave clean ups. All mowing season long it’s the Toro Super Recycler. Definitely a Toro fan coming from 3 different Hondas in the last 25 years.

@mainstreetmower

4 ай бұрын

That's awesome man. What would you say is one thing that gives the Toro that edge over honda?

@gregboyer2385

4 ай бұрын

I’d say the personal pace and the ease of maneuvering. Toro definitely will be lead dog in push mower field soon if not already. Honda is stopping production on gas mower so they say. I myself not ready for a battery powered mower.

@michaeldavis6550

2 ай бұрын

​@gregboyer2385 both these new toros are junk with junk engines & plastic carburetors. Way way overpriced junk period. New Hondas are way better with much better engine then any of these new Toros!!!

@FilmFlam-8008

Ай бұрын

@@michaeldavis6550Honda stopped making them, dude. Any left are it. And support is going to drop in years to come.

@michaeldavis6550

Ай бұрын

@rebchizelbeak5392 yes what's left is it but only for the us market & are still gonna be produced elsewhere. Support will not fail your honda so don't worry about that.

Thanks for the informative comparison. I wish you had made a more exact comparison. You mentioned identical engines in both. The cut height should have been identical between the two. I suspect each mower was using its default installed blade? Are they the same or is the blade different? Is it the baffles in the decking underside that circulates the clippings better for recutting on the SR? I'm trying to hone in on the cutting aspect and not the other features that I understand will have a price difference of $300. Would the cheaper mower with an Oregon high lift blade or Gator blade be an equivalent or better mulcher than the SR?

@LL-mt2nz

8 күн бұрын

I have owned both of these mowers and currently own the SR. The SR is worth the extra cost. The Recycler uses a mulching blade and it’s a finish mower. It doesn’t handle damp or overgrown grass well. The SR uses a high lift blade that directs the clippings to the kickers until they are essentially a powder. The blade assembly also has “accelerators” the assist in this process. The SR needs a high lift blade for this reason. A munching blade would isn’t ideal. The SR will leave your grass with a well groomed appearance regardless of most reasonable cutting conditions. There is no comparison between these two machines.

looks great

Are the mowers in the video front wheel drive or rear wheel drive

Nothing wrong with the cheap one-I’m not spending $850 for a walk&sweat behind mower- I bought a old used one without the bag real cheap and had to get a side discharge chute off eebay-parts are cheap - reliable

@mainstreetmower

3 ай бұрын

That's fair. Honestly, all these machines are as good as the dealer who could service these for you.

You probably felt more bog on the Recycler around 3:00 because it has a mulching blade, which does more work because it cuts while the blades are suspended in the vacuum of the deck a second time, not just that it was cutting mildly shorter

I understand that the super recycler is a superior machine. But judging by the first cut at the maximum cutting heights, would you say that the difference in cut quality and mulching ability is less pronounced if you are following the 1/3 rule? Again, clearly the SR does everything better but it appears to me that as the grass is more overgrown (basically what you were simulating by cutting lower and lower) the difference becomes more pronounced. I’ll be honest, $800 is a tough pill to swallow and I’m trying to convince myself that I’ll be fine with the recycler haha I’m thinking that given I cut my lawn at least once and usually twice per week I should be good.

@MrCaribe65

Ай бұрын

I'm assuming you eventually purchased the Recycler? 😊 I'm in the same position right now.

@sethjohnson4845

27 күн бұрын

@@MrCaribe65 just fixed my old mower for now. I’m not sure what I’m going to buy when the time comes. Part of me just thinks I should bite the bullet and get the SR since I expect it to last around 10 years, but then again I know that the regular recycler will still be an upgrade for me and a lot cheaper. Sorry, I’m no help.

@MrCaribe65

25 күн бұрын

@sethjohnson4845 I bought a Recycler Max for 499.00 from Lowes. It's ok for what I needed. I kept my old Murray as a backup and will overhaul it this winter. Thanks for your response. It's a tough decision these days because of the prices. 👍🏻

@sethjohnson4845

24 күн бұрын

@@MrCaribe65 The recycler max is really intriguing, I know I’d be happy with that one. Mine is a Murray too lol Congrats on the new mower!

Does it have an Option of a bag to catch the grass? Judt heard thr Pricr

@Nintendo853

5 ай бұрын

yes!

@mainstreetmower

4 ай бұрын

@@Nintendo853 that's right

@notsofast5495

3 ай бұрын

Did I miss it but: 1) Is the black one easier to push? 2) Did they both disengage the transmissions well when pulling back? 3) How is the transmission better in the black one? 4) Same size engine?

For what it’s worth, there is a small difference in the engine. The Super Recycler has a 163cc engine while the recycler has a 150cc. Great comparison though - the super recycler is the only one I’ll use.

I have both in the 60volt line, i agree the SR toro does cut a little better, but the 60 volt is cheapened up vs the gas one.

Do they both come with a bag?

@mainstreetmower

3 ай бұрын

Yes

Would these be good for a lawn care business?

@mainstreetmower

3 ай бұрын

Absolutely. Depending on the acreage you need to cover and the terrains you're dealing with.

Could have used the 21485 Super Recycler instead; it's only $549.99 and probably a better comparison.

@mainstreetmower

16 күн бұрын

Copy that.

Had always used a 1999 SR mowing my Moms yard. when I got my own house bought a HRX, I hated it. Gave it to my Mom, she still uses the 99 SR. I got back into a Brand new SR way better then the Honda. The Ergonomics on Hondas are absolutely atrocious.

I think I would damage the Super Recycler due to tree debris. I can't pick up all of the sticks, acorns, leaves and the like

Wire up or zip tie the governer to up the rpms. Thats what i did on both of my Toros to keep them mowing through the thick grass. They are both grass eating beasts! 👍

@KenzertYT

Ай бұрын

They will not last as long if you do this! Just in case you are not aware

Prices?

@williegrant3054

5 ай бұрын

$499 and $799

@chiphawthorne4248

5 ай бұрын

prices are at the end of the video.

@williegrant3054

5 ай бұрын

@@chiphawthorne4248 Thank You. I saw

I hate the personal pace system on these. That’s my biggest deterrent.

@Harvick29No1

Ай бұрын

Why?

@pineappleboi27

Ай бұрын

@@Harvick29No1 a traditional lever give much better control. I just like it a lot better.

@KenzertYT

Ай бұрын

@@pineappleboi27 I think if you are turning around a lot the Personal Pace is nice, but a traditional lever is good if you are doing long, consistent sweeps on a well kept lawn.

They both bogged down, so neither is good.

@johnbritt5448

2 ай бұрын

Push slower

Overpriced, over engineered, recycler is junk, super is overpriced. For that money I’ll go Honda.

@johnbritt5448

2 ай бұрын

My Toro is awesomeness. cheaper than Honda too