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Top Gun: Maverick editor, Eddie Hamilton ACE takes you on a tour of his AVID MEDIA COMPOSER timeline
Action film editor, Eddie Hamilton ACE explains how he set up his Avid Media Composer timeline. Eddie also explores the techniques he used to manage the massive amount of footage that made its way through his editing suite so he could edit the box office mega-hit, TOP GUN: MAVERICK!
To hear a full interview with Eddie about his experience cutting TOP GUN: MAVERICK, make sure to subscribe to THE ROUGH CUT podcast or visit THE ROUGH CUT website. Links for both are in the channel banner.
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my computer crashed just watching this video
@The_Rough_Cut
Жыл бұрын
That's funny. Mine crashed making it. Thanks for checking it out, Mark!
@Winduct
Жыл бұрын
Hahahahahahahaha
@KevinH879
Жыл бұрын
That’s hilarious
@sugriv3405
8 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@girafingo9280
8 ай бұрын
Lmao
This is always so overwhelming for me to even take in, the amount of work that goes into editing movies is immensely profound and I admire all the crew members behind the scenes that make these moments what they are when we are immersed in these stories because this is truly the highest form of artistic expression,
@arturgajewskiphotog
5 ай бұрын
Filming the movie doesn't take that much. It's the post production that takes it long time for a movie to be finished.
@mabitzzltdsteam4082
5 ай бұрын
@@arturgajewskiphotogit’s every department…
@MysteriousFella
5 ай бұрын
you don't even know what you're talking about.. @@arturgajewskiphotog
I always get a sense of pride when I look at my edits that they're multi-layered and "complex"...then I look at this and just think to myself..."Oh. Ok" 😆
Incredible, as a producer, I love seeing this stuff and learning about every process. That way, when I hire an editor, I have not only a better understanding of the process, but also more empathy for the individual who is doing it. Kudos to you!
@Zippypeepee
Жыл бұрын
Hi there. Editor here. Are you looking for an editor and or AE?
@PiDsPagePrototypes
8 ай бұрын
That timeline is not a good example, for when it comes to making sure the edit won't crash the PC/Mac through resource use.
@NickWizz
8 ай бұрын
the best producers have a base knowledge of this process.
@nick8945
8 ай бұрын
This editor didn't really talk about the process at all. All he said was basically, we gave footage to other people and we got other shots that we needed back from VFX people. He talked way to much about how he works, and used way to much industry lingo, that not even google knew what it meant! All these videos seem to have way too much "assumed" knowledge that someone trying to learn how to better create a feature film sequence simply can't follow.
@ilythabi
8 ай бұрын
Watching a professional editor very briefly skim through his work on a $170 Million film is not the place to go if you're a beginner looking to learn how to edit, and he was clearly not operating under that pretence. @@nick8945
The VFX department did an excellent job and so did you, Sir. Couldn't really tell what was real and what was fake and even more importantly: This movie really dragged one in like no other movie that's been done before. It's so perfectly edited and pleasing to the eye.
This looks so overwhelming but the principles of staying organised and splitting everything up into manageable chunks, you can tell really helped out
@The_Rough_Cut
8 ай бұрын
100%. Organization is at least half the battle with these large film projects..
Eddie is an amazing editor and it was an absolute pleasure and treat to be able to work with him on Top Gun: Maverick!
Thank you for sharing! As an aspiring film editor myself its incredible to see all the work that goes into a final edit :)
Love getting your insight and behind the scene of your timeline management. As a director, and having produced a feature, this is greatly appreciated.
I feel really lucky to see this. Maverick was one of the highest quality films I've ever seen, so it's really a pleasure to see your process. Thanks so much.
A joy to see the movie, a joy to hear an editor talk about it…. Thanks for sharing.
@The_Rough_Cut
8 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
This is FANTASTIC insight to what these editors go through for a feature film.
so interesting - I really love seeing how this is done on such a big scale
How thrilling to see this! That movie was excellent. I lost count how many times I saw it in the cinema LOL And now to see the timeline is amazing. Thank you so much for sharing and explaining it. And thank you for your part in providing us with such an epic piece of entertainment! 😁👍 Cheers!
Despite the tremendous effort that is clearly visible in your timeline, what is truly amazing is the effort you've put in making this video, the representation is made so simple and convenient to understand. Thanks so so much for taking the time and sharing your knowledge. It means a lot to a lot of people out there wanting to learn. Good luck on all your projects!
Thanks for sharing! Maverick was great! Loved the latest MI. Saw in theater and rented again last weekend. When the piano falls and blows away the back of the train car - I felt like I was there holding on for dear life!!
It's so nice see what magic professionals do with such an awesome piece of software. I wanna become a professional in the media design area one day too and seeing how someone has put together something complex step by step is inspiring.
editing on this film was amazing. The cut from the beach to the front of the carrier with the wave sounds was awesome and the cut from the deck to Cruise in the jet about to take off. superb
What a gem, it makes me appreciate this insane puzzle even more :) Thank you for sharing
Thank you for sharing this, I feel like I have just been taken to the studio and just been taught about an edit of a professional movie edit
This was amazing to watch. It was extremely informative. Don't stop posting!
@The_Rough_Cut
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Kyle! I'll try.
What an excellent and informative video. Man that is one detailed edit!
@The_Rough_Cut
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Matt! It sure is!
I work in the vfx aspect of films, this is a great insight as to what’s happening while we are working on the film thanks for putting this out. Love seeing this stuff.
This is such a great video and so informative for people working in VFX to understand the logging and timeline process the Editor & VFX Editorial manage when receiving VFX shot iterations and finals. Thankyou !
Wow, nice and informative. So refreshing to hear in detail from the artist :D
@The_Rough_Cut
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
this makes my davinci resolve editing for youtube videos seem like 1 year old work... insane. i get exactly what you're doing, but the sheer scale of the project is insane.also, absolutely amazing work on maverick. what a rare film of fantastic elements all coming together to make such a perfect movie. the color grading, audio, editing, etc. are all absolutely the best.
That was great to watch and learn. Curious how your back-ups work. I freak out when I accidentally delete and have to rebuild a clip that may have 5 layers. I imagine your A.E's have sequences, but very curious of the back-up process (and overall workflow on a project this massive). Thanks for sharing!!
I only do far smaller scale projects in DaVinci and Premier but I love your organizational techniques. I'd love to see more of the original pre-FX arial footage from this movie. It's really lacking in behind the scenes content 🙂
Wow I have so much respect now for Editors and what you do!!!!
So amazing! LOVE watching these kinds of things!!
Insane project! Thanks for the insight
Came from The Movie Rabbit Hole "No CGI" video that's trending. Glad he mentioned this channel. It's a gem for me.
@The_Rough_Cut
9 ай бұрын
Thanks, Kris. And thanks to MRH too! That's really cool. I hope you enjoy the content. More stuff coming.
This is the best example of professional team work.
A good editor MAKES the film. Doesn't matter how well everything else was done if the editor is lousy; it all either comes together, or falls apart in editing. Kudos and thanks for the view inside of a major motion picture edit timeline.
Excellent breakdown!
Wow, great job Eddie, so thorough but yet you explained it simply! Love this so much. And the movie was absolutely wonderful.
Thank You for sharing this value-loaded video!
It is rare to experience the perfect mix now these days in a movie! No wonder you need real talent and it is a lot work! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
with key frames, when we sent the sequence to interplay, it would never keep in the protools session, wonder if thats just our department problem ahaha. Love key frames on audio so much control over fades too
I really want to come shadow you for a few days, haha. So cool! As someone who is very into the nitty gritty of behind the scenes and how a production gets made, this was very cool to see!
This is very helpful, thanks.
I think I should make a quilt based on this.
This is amazing!
Thanks for the information.
thankyou so much Eddie! this was a wonderful insight. very helpful too!
Thank you for your work, I loved this movie!
I have worked in VFX for my whole career, it's great to see the workflow from your perspective. Great video.
absolutely fascinating and very well presented. Awesome, awesome film as well.
Wow that is a lot of material composed together!
Thank you for doing this! Fascinating stuff.
@The_Rough_Cut
8 ай бұрын
I'm happy to do it, Craig. Hopefully, there are other videos on here you enjoy as well.
I will never ever think I have a busy timeline, ever again... whoa
@The_Rough_Cut
8 ай бұрын
Ha! Eddie definitely pushes it to the max. There may be some other timeline videos on here that are a little closer to what most of us are used to. I hope you give them a look!
I, too, like using keyframes extensively. The effects in Premiere Pro can be a bit messy at times. I like having the control of using keyframes. Amazing look at a very crazy timeline. As an artist, too, I can see them as works of art. Print them out!
Excellent 🙌🏾
Amazing insights
Amazing, my dream job. And the movie was fantastic.
This is great. I am going to make a template off of this for Resolve.
Magnificent work! 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Finally, Type of video I wanted... 😅😅
Thanks for sharing this, especially this is my favorite movie! This really helps working with my team. I really like your video and of course subscribed! looking forward to see more of your professional work;)
@The_Rough_Cut
8 ай бұрын
Thank you! I'm really happy to hear you enjoyed this and got something out of it.
This was so informative. Thank you so much for sharing!!!
@The_Rough_Cut
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@saughatbg7489
Жыл бұрын
@@The_Rough_Cut can we do this type of high level work on davinci resolve 17 sir
@The_Rough_Cut
Жыл бұрын
@@saughatbg7489 You can certainly do high level work on DaVinci Resolve, especially when it comes to effects and color grading. A few of the reasons why Avid Media Composer is predominantly used on feature films like Top Gun: Maverick is Avid's project/media sharing model. Large films require multiple people working in picture editorial, vfx editing, as well as sound to collaborate together, often in parallel. Avid has a model that has been proven over time. There is also, arguably, a higher degree of precision in the editing tools within Media Composer; specifically with the trimming tools. But everyone has their own preferences and opinions. Whatever you choose, tell a great story!
@PiDsPagePrototypes
8 ай бұрын
@@The_Rough_CutNow that's a damn fine answer. Always Story First.
No sé como hacen para lograr que nos sumerjamos y estresemos en cada una de las escenas de entrenamiento y de la mision final , me encanto la película, gracias por compartir tu trabajo con la comunidad!!
videos like this just makes me realize how little i know about this crazy, amazing industry. 😂
@The_Rough_Cut
8 ай бұрын
That makes two of us.
This is just so fckn incredible!
My computer would get up and walk out of the room if i tried to open a file like this
Well now I have physical proof that my timelines are trash
this was astonishing! this channel is great, it would be awesome if you could bring “Everything Everywhere All at Once” editor, who recently won the Oscar and used Premiere Pro!
@lrrrruleroftheplanetomicro6881
Жыл бұрын
I can tell you how he did it: He removed all unused footage from the project, so Premiere wouldn't crash while saving.
@marcosromo
Жыл бұрын
@@lrrrruleroftheplanetomicro6881 I would love to see a video like this but with Paul Rogers surfing in his Premiere timeline!
I love how some files on the timeline are called "filler". At least they're being honest with us
I'm surprised there wasn't a reference file to the opening of the first film.
This is awesome
@The_Rough_Cut
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching it! Plenty of other timeline tours and interviews here, so please give them a look.
My God, that looks like it could easily screwed up by accident! Awesome behind the scenes look.
My brain would melt trying to figure this out 😂
Brilliant.
@The_Rough_Cut
8 ай бұрын
Thanks for checking it out, Mark!
I need to know the render time 😂
Would love a hardware breakdown of the computers used for these edits
Wow, what a great insight! Better subscribe!
@The_Rough_Cut
8 ай бұрын
Please!
Phenomenal work! I want to ask, what are the advantages of using Avid Media Composer for large-scale production? Is it because you can collaborate on the film simultaneously with a team? Why not work in Premiere, for example? As I'm a freelance video editor, I'm curious about this.
How to get a screenshot of such high resolution? Thanks.
How hard is it to insert new shots in between clips? Do you lock in certain tracks? You ever use other software to edit? i.e. Premiere? I assume video clips are linked to their respective audio clips? This feels like a nightmare to keep track of! lol
When does the color grading process come into place?
Great info about the timeline! I have to say that there were a lot of stuff on those VFX tracks for a "no-CGI" movie 😉
@akyhne
8 ай бұрын
I have no idea what you're referring to, with a no-CGI movie. But VFX and CGI is not the same thing. All CGI is VFX, but VFX can be many things, and VFX doesn't equal CGI. For that matter, a color grading can be concidered VFX, like filming a scene in daylight, and color grading it to look like a night scene.
@MikkoRantalainen
8 ай бұрын
@@akyhne Great points! I meant modifications that affect the content of the movie instead just color grading, gamma or contrast. Something like marketing pretending "we only used practical effects" for Top Gun or other modern action movies is simply lying in my books. Yes, Top Gun did shoot all scenes practical but the planes you can see in the actual movie are 99% computer generated.
@akyhne
8 ай бұрын
@@MikkoRantalainen The plane he flew in the beginning of the movie, was definitely CGI. All movies today uses a lor of VFX, like sky replacement, digitally painting out objects, green screening, using mini models for blowing up stuff, parallax camera work, and even matte painting. But it's far from all movies, that uses CGI. Sometimes it's just better and cheaper, to use old school VFX tricks. Personally I don't care what kind of VFX they are using, as long as it looks convincing. VFX goes back to the dawn of movie making, and is here to stay.
Hmmm, so basically, you keep every version of every asset/shot available on the timeline so you can go back to any earlier revision if needed without having to search through the bins and reinsert it. Smart.
How do you keep track of the transition points from reel to reel? like if you make a change in the end of say reel 1 but someone else is working on reel 2 and they make a change at the beginning portion.. how does everybody keep track of the shots so they line up and don't look jump cut or incoherent.. hope my question makes sense! thanks
@The_Rough_Cut
8 ай бұрын
Ravi, this is why on feature films you have an assistant editing crew as well as a VFX editor and assistant VFX editors. Keeping track of changes is a big job on even smaller projects. That said, if there's just one editor on the project, the changes that would be made to a sequence/reel that the editor wasn't actively working on would primarily be with creating temp sound/visual fx, or replacing existing temp with updated versions from the sound and VFX teams. It wouldn't be changes to the story itself. If there are multiple picture editors, they meet regularly to share their cuts and discuss changes that have been made. I hope that answers your question.
Meanwhile me editing in resolve: and here's where i put my little title card and side swipe transition :)
My patience would never
I see that the Atmos bounce is 7.1. Does that mean there are no height channels used?
This is so amazing. 2 questions. How long from the time you receive the film to handing back to them to put on the big screen did it take? And 2, what software is that you are using?
@AdamKliment
8 ай бұрын
2: It's Avid Media Composer
@The_Rough_Cut
8 ай бұрын
Kevin, Adam already took care of your second question. As far as the first one goes, it's a little tough to say for films that were produced while pandemic-related lockdowns were happening. Eddie might give the exact time in the podcast interview with him (also here on the channel), but postproduction on a film of this size generally ranges anywhere from 6-12 months. Again, a number of factors can have an effect on that. Thanks for checking out the video! Another one with Eddie on Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Pt1 is coming soon!
what do you render on. are these server rack machines with multiple GPU hooked together?
This is amazing!! The nerd in the back of my mind would love to see some details on the hardware!...PC or Mac, CPU/GPU/RAM, etc!
@The_Rough_Cut
8 ай бұрын
Tell the nerd that it was just an intel-based MacBook Pro. Eddie likes to do a lof of editing on the go, mostly so he can stay up to speed on these huge projects. I don't recall if he ever said what the ram or actual cpu was, but there is an interview with him about Top Gun here on the channel. Thanks!
@rmp5s
8 ай бұрын
@@The_Rough_Cut Nice! I can't IMAGINE that timeline on a LAPTOP SCREEN!! Hahaha Thanks!!
@FlippedSociety
8 ай бұрын
@@rmp5s laptop screen! That's exactly what I was thinking - I thought for sure it would have to be a 4K 80" monitor just to avoid zooming and death scrolling to get to where you want! Ughhhh!
안녕하세요. 저는 영화편집자를 꿈꾸고 있는 한국인입니다. 이렇게 상업편집 과정을 유튜브를 통해 볼 수 있다는 것이 얼마나 감사한 일인지..앞으로도 좋은 영상 많이 부탁드립니다. hello. I am a Korean who dreams of becoming a film editor. How grateful I am to be able to watch the commercial editing process like this on KZread. I hope you continue to make good videos.
@The_Rough_Cut
8 ай бұрын
I hope so too! Thanks!
how you organise all the different shots? 😅
When does the color grading process come into place? Do you send each clip separately or how does it work?
@The_Rough_Cut
5 ай бұрын
From what I know, final color grading, as the name implies, happens after picture editing (outside of the Avid) in systems like Resolve, FilmLight and Mistika. The flattened graded file is sent back to picture editorial and dropped into the timeline on a track near or at the top. That doesn't mean there aren't color grading passes done in the Avid during editing. During reviews and screenings, a "temp" color grade is often done inside Media Composer.
Wow!
How do you change one little thing in middle of massive timeline like that? Like you have to shift so many layers if you change the timing of something
@The_Rough_Cut
8 ай бұрын
John, it mostly depends on what you are changing. In Media Composer there are things like sync locks, "add edits" across all tracks and asymmetrical trimming that editors use, among others, to maintain sync. The topic is probably not a bad idea for a future video here. Thanks for checking this one out!
Does anyone have a Dmg 2018 for mac? classic dmg is no longer available in the avid download center. how I miss old Avid.
How long did it take to render that timeline?
I am an editor and even though I edit simple music videos, the timeline still looks messy. I know that for more narrative work, I have a quite tidied up timeline. But music videos seem to be a mess when I edit it.
Jeez! 😮
@The_Rough_Cut
Жыл бұрын
That's what I thought too.
I would love to know the technical details of the setup he has here.. computer, video hardware/server, screens, etc.
are you allowed to sale the timeline? for example, as art i think this would look amazing on a wall... like 8 feet long keeping the colors the way they are and everything...
Just curious. What was the final theater version file format and size?
@The_Rough_Cut
8 ай бұрын
Pat, I'm not sure what the file size was and I doubt Eddie would know either, but mastered films are delivered in the DCP (Digital Cinema Package) format. Eddie edited with media encoded in the Avid DNx codec.