Thank you for all your experimentation and explanations - what an exciting time to be involved with 3D Printing, scanning and AI assistance. Keep up the great work!

@3DRevolution

12 күн бұрын

Thanks very much! Yes it's definitely an exciting time with the rate of development and innovation in this field!

Interesting video! Small suggestion on your talking head shot. If you put the camera a little higher it will improve the shot. Putting the camera low can make it seem like you're "talking down" to the audience and vise versa. Level or slightly higher than eye level is ideal.

Awesome dude! Thank you so much for this. Instant mesh is exactly the kind of thing I was looking for.

@3DRevolution

12 күн бұрын

You're most welcome. This space is going to be evolving so much, looking forward to seeing what's next.

What an Eye Opener!! I have basically designed everything I've printed using a 3D modeler... not a CAD system, simply because I know the modeling software well, and I find "fiddling with the design" far easier. For someone like myself, having AI design things I can't or find difficult, would be a huge help. Thinks like screw threads of different dimensions. Hinges for a desktop box. Interlocking parts & buckles. While we're at it, can it help with tolerance evaluation... ie, create a test print that measures screw thread print tolerances (both screw and screw hole) for my printer (a test setup). I like what' you're doing. Subscribed.

Video was interesting, production good too. I learnt about some new tools I plan to play with. Thanks and keep it up!

@3DRevolution

12 күн бұрын

Glad you liked it and hope it leads to some fun projects. As always, plenty more to come! Thanks, and happy printing!

Well done! Thank you for making this video. It was a huge time saver for me.

@3DRevolution

12 күн бұрын

Really glad to hear it. Thanks for commenting!

Cool stuff! Even just for getting rough references into one's preferred program instead of setting up canvases from photographs and whatnot.

Thank You for a GREAT overview 👍😃. It saved me from doing hours of research.

@3DRevolution

27 күн бұрын

Really glad it helped :)

Thank you for sharing, quite impressive!

This is a great overview of the actual state of AI generated 3D modeling. Thank you for this video.

@3DRevolution

12 күн бұрын

You're really welcome, thanks, and happy printing!

Very well done overview of what's currently possible with AI & 3D printing! This is gold!

@3DRevolution

27 күн бұрын

Thanks very much, glad you liked it! There's definitely some exciting stuff on the horrizon!

@jtjames79

23 күн бұрын

​@@3DRevolution Almost everything you said has been made obsolete over the last 2 days. Someone figured out a new prompting technique to give LLMs spatial awareness. And someone else figured out a way to use knowledge graphs to give LLMs much more intuition, and vastly more robust prompt interpretation.

@beej5

17 күн бұрын

@@jtjames79based on this information you’re sharing, what is the best tool for generating an stl using AI?

@juri5483

11 күн бұрын

@@jtjames79 Hey, can you explain a little further what has changed or whats the best to use/watch for now?

interesting! Can’t wait to see how it improves!

I would definitely be interested in follow up videos with the newer models. This would a be a serious space of innovation as the LLM's are more properly trained on such to perform better.

OMG A channel that i need i needed so bad to learn everything OMG unreal

I loved the entire video! How you presented each different tool had me sitting on the edge of my seat, both hoping for an elegant success or a total disaster. So well organized, presented and edited. Looking forward to your next video on this rapidly developing topic! -Courtney

@3DRevolution

12 күн бұрын

Hey Coutney, thanks very much. Really glad you enjoyed it, always nice to hear from a fellow creator! Get in touch if you're ever interested in telling a Filament Story together, Happy Printing!

Can you go over tools to modify existing models? like if i have a model that was created from an existing part but has defects on surface that was carried over from damage that was on the model part. Thanks

@3DRevolution

12 күн бұрын

Hey Jimmy, just so I understand you, do you mean how to modify models you've generated by scanning (like I did with the horses head here). So you could scan something that's damaged, repair it on the computer, then print a new one?

I've used Luma for making models in a game but always wondered how good they would work for 3d printing might have to try it out.

@3DRevolution

12 күн бұрын

Definitely let us know how you find printing some of your Luma generated models. This field is always developing, and with the nature of AI, people often get wildly different experiences so great to get a broader range of how people find it.

I am new here.... how did you 3d print the colors? Did you change the pla ffilament

Thanks for this review of AI 3d model generation, I imagine some designers that sell models are becoming worried. Does the phone fit the stand whilst charging? The space for the charging cable looks a bit small.

@3DRevolution

27 күн бұрын

Glad you liked it! I feel we are still a long way off being able to get exactly what you're picturing in your mind using AI. Whilst as I show in this video, you can get it to produce something that loosely fits what you're after, if you had a very specific design in mind, I feel we're still a while off it matching that. Especially taking into account dimesional accuracy etc. And that's not to mention multi-part designs that fit together or have mechanical functionality. But with all these things the rate the technolohy evolves is accelerating. Compare an image from Dalle2, to a MidJourney picture from 9 months later, or an AI video of Will Smith eathing Spaghtetti to anything by Sora, and it's night and day. I'd imagine we'll see the same rate of development here and soon we'll start seeing some real breakthroughs. As for the phone stand, that's a good question and not something I'd thought about. I have a few wireless charginig stands dotted around so usually don't charge using a cable. However, I just went and checked and yes, it actually fits and works fine. Obviously that may vary a bit depending on your phone and the cable but it worked fine for me. It was right on the edge though, if the rigid part of the cable had been any longer or thicker than I don't think it would have fitted, but yes, certainly can work! Were you interested in the phone stand? If people like the look of it and would actually like it I can possibly pop it on MakerWorld and Printables?

Been trying this too, Apps that understand "real world" STL output like OpenSCAD, FreeCAD, Blender are going to be very interesting once AI get integrated properly. I suspect the AI/LLMs are going to be more specialized and perhaps simpler than current LMMs that try to do everything. Makehuman understands the kinematics of body shapes, the AI only needs to modify the variables that are used by Makehuman to deign the body and pose. The Makehuman plugin to Blender does the same. AI with OpenSCAD for robot design will be interesting, I use it for model trains, wheels, motors and gears but robots also use motors n gears....

@3DRevolution

12 күн бұрын

When it gets to the point you can prompt an AI to design a 3D printable fully functional mechanical design, that'll be truly game changing!

@babbagebrassworks4278

12 күн бұрын

@@3DRevolution Breaking Taps did vid on emulated biology joints for tiny robots. Add some AI procedural geodesic bones and humanoid bots are much stronger and lighter. Most bots today are over engineered subtractive machined and ugly.

With llm's you should have used follow up prompts, for example "the elements are there but not in the correct position" or "the script generates an error because there is no cone object"

@3DRevolution

12 күн бұрын

Yeah I actually spent a couple of days trying this with several LLMs and was absolutely trying feedback questions to iteratively improve the code. However, I found this had very little impact on the positioning and orientation of the models. So little in fact it wasn't even worth showing in the video when I did the final test between each of the LLMs.

3D model generation and robot kinematics / robot decision making will be the next big things. They are inextricably linked.

The exponential growth of AI is cool to watch. In 18 months it is going to be an awesome usable tool for 3D printing. Imagine describing the parameters for a bracket or repair part in plaintext and the AI spitting out a usable printable file.

@3DRevolution

12 күн бұрын

And 12 months later we'll all have chips implanted in our brain meaning we need but think of something and it'll be printed for us, haha

I spent years making custom models in DaZ Studio only to find out they are not water tight and riddled with issues when attempting to 3d print. Would love a tool that uses AI to repair those issues and make the models 3d printable. Spent many painstaking hours making these models and although it's been several years of me coming back and attempting to make them 3d printable I am still left with nothing to show for it.

someday researchers will be forced to tackle the much much harder and more interesting problem of producing usable meshes...

@SeattleShelby

7 күн бұрын

Have the AI replace the cloud point mesh with a parametric model. Done. As expensive as Dessault Systems and AutoDesk products are, I feel like should have already happened by now.

I’d been thinking about trying OpenSCAD, so this was disappointing :-/ I wonder how it would do if you gave it a complex model already created and just asked it to set the appropriate variables? (There’s a crazy-robust box generator I’ve need thinking about using to build a power supply box with a bunch of switches jack outlets, studs for mounting the PS itself, etc. It has so many variables, I’m wondering if CharGPT could make it simpler for me to just tell it what I want and then get all the right variables set.)

@3DRevolution

12 күн бұрын

Don't let this video desuade you from trying OpenSCAD. OpenSCAD itself is fantastic for producing parametric models. This just shows that currently AI's aren't great at writing code for OpenSCAD so you'd still need to write it yourself. Which box generator have you been looking at? There's some great ones out there.

@DaveEtchells

11 күн бұрын

@@3DRevolution I forget which one it was offhand, as I’ve been sidetracked by work stuff the last couple of months. It was just insanely complete though, with many, many options for just about anything you could possibly think of to do to a box 😂 I know OpenSCAD isn’t inherently very difficult, it’s just that my bandwidth fir learning new tools related to 3D printing these days is almost non-existent :-/

Try this as a prompt, Create a stand shaped like a gripping hand which is holding an invisible iPhone 11.

intro monologue is top tier today lmao

@3DRevolution

12 күн бұрын

Haha, I did get a bit carried away with this one.

- "Interesting". Thx for sharing. - A long way to go, still - but it's a start...

@3DRevolution

27 күн бұрын

You're very welcome. Yes definitely I'd say this is roughly the 3D equivalent of DallE2, so when we start getting the 3D equivalent of MidJourney in 9-12 months, it'll be pretty game changing!

request. a tutorial on adding openscad to ollama. a tutorial on using topological optimization

Cool thoughts on scad

I tried this last december with gpt3 and it always failed. I tried to create a ring with a pair of lips on it 💍💋 . It never got it right after many tries. The ring was often oriented wrong. The lips never looked like lips, only a cylinder or some freak shape.

LOL knew you'd be all over AI

@3DRevolution

12 күн бұрын

Haha, just as AI is all over literally everything these days.

instantmesh seams to have the most potential, I wish it was a bit betting at using drawing instead of photos for generating model bases

@3DRevolution

12 күн бұрын

In time I'm sure we'll see this sort of thing improved

You should have chat GPT write a prompt for Tripo to see if it can get more detail based on the more detailed prompt that GPT could give

@3DRevolution

12 күн бұрын

A nice idea actually, perhapse something I'll try in a future video. Good suggestion.

I would like an AI that clean messy meshes to perfection ... Retopography. Instead we get AIs, that generate monumental garbage meshes, and calls it a day :(

How does one start investing in these AI models?

@3DRevolution

12 күн бұрын

Well you start by putting a gas mask on a horse...

3D Ai Studio is THE BEST for 3D Printing, have you tried that?

@3DRevolution

12 күн бұрын

I absolutely have. There were several other tools I tried out in prep for this video but I gound the results from 3D AI Studio tended to be similar to ones I was covering already here so didn't feel it was adding anything new to the video. But yeah, it's definitely worth a play with, I enjoyed it.

@Spancs

12 күн бұрын

@@3DRevolution Agreed, simelar to tripo etc. But they have Realtime Texture Generation, Upscale Texture, etc. I like that with that

@3DRevolution

12 күн бұрын

@@Spancs That's true, but as texture isn't currently too useful for 3D printing that wasn't something I was factoring in. But it is definitely a cool feature.

@Spancs

12 күн бұрын

@@3DRevolution True that! Excited to see how the space evolves. i think in the future we will be able to generate 3d models of whatever we can imagine in production quality, exciting times

claude is terrifying!

@3DRevolution

12 күн бұрын

More terrifying than a horse in a gas mask?

@Voidroamer

12 күн бұрын

@@3DRevolutionyes!

I've found that with ChatGPT you can usually tell it what it's done wrong, and it will correct the issue. Rarely is one single prompt enough for a working solution. For a new shape like a chair, you will want to start a new conversation, so that the context doesn't confuse it. Also copilot is the same backend as chatgpt, it's just a little bit worse. So I wouldn't expect much from there.

@3DRevolution

12 күн бұрын

Oh absolutely, you often need to go back and feedback. I actually spent around 2 days trying to make it work by doing that on each of these, but the issues were never corrected. Because the results after multiple rounds of back and forth were pretty much identical to the results from the first prompt, I didn't think it was worth including them in the video, but in hindsight, perhaps I should have mentioned that I had given them that opportunity. As for the new shape, I do get what you mean, and I know that with the example I included of ChatGPT I did request the chair code in the same conversation as the rocket, but I didn't with the other to LLM's, and as I'd mentioned before, through my extensive tests with these, regardless of new conversations or not, it didn't really improve this. You are correct, Microsoft CoPilot does run a ChatGPT model, but as you say, it's Microsoft's own flavour of it. I was originally going to use Gemini as the third candidate here but in my preliminary tests (of which there were many), it refused to even once give me a code that OpenSCAD would even run with errors, it just refused to run it all together.

“Let’s import it” into what?

@3DRevolution

12 күн бұрын

By that I was referring into a slicer, which is software used to prepare a 3D model for 3D printing, effectively you feed in a 3d mkfel, the specifications of the machine you'll be printing with, and your desired print settings, and a slicer crates a file which is just a list of machine commands for the printer to follow. In this video I used both PrusaSlicer and Bambu Studio (two of the most popular slicers).

I'm a fan of how you put this content together, but I can't fathom why you think running against 3.5 would result in content that provides any benefit for anyone. I am sure you are aware of the utter night and day different in reasoning between the two. Hopefully you are also aware that even GPT-4o does barely any better at reasoning within a 3D parametric space. That video would have at least been useful and insightful.

16:23 *_The_* human language 🤔😅

@3DRevolution

Күн бұрын

Human language as opposed to computer language, it's a common term. Similar to 'natural language' or 'natural spoken language'. It's also popular for people who enjoy human music, like those classics, 'boop', 'beep', and 'ding'. :')

@RubelliteFae

18 сағат бұрын

@@3DRevolution You make an interesting point. There's a phenomenon that if people know that someone made something with AI they will appreciate it less (often far less). This is then associated with it being "AI-made" and for some reason people forget it was a human using the AI to make it. So, I wonder if it does boil down to this evolutionarily early concept of "us" & "not us." Like, people don't usually use disgust emotions to describe how something of decently high aesthetic quality. But disgust does usually come from a place of deep evolutionary biology. I also wonder how disgusted people were at the industrial revolution. Edit: And, what does it mean about those of us who don't devalue stuff for having been made with AI? 🤔

@3DRevolution

17 сағат бұрын

@@RubelliteFae are you familiar with the term Luddite? Commonly used these days to refer to someone who dislikes or is afraid of technology or technological change/development. It actually originates from a community of textile workers in Nottingham, England in the 19th century, who protested the invention of industrial sewing machines that they felt threatened their industry. They conducted raids and sabotage on machines and revieered a mythical man by the name of Nic Ludd from the 1700s, the namesake of the Luddites. I feel with every technological or societal change we experience a modern version of this, and with AI it threatens to be both a technological AND a societal change.

@RubelliteFae

17 сағат бұрын

@@3DRevolution Yeah, I knew about the Luddites and the term neoluddite. I suppose I had presumed that happened due to panic & fear, not revulsion. Sure, the former has been happening with AI, but the latter is what has taken me by surprise. It's strange. We've known this revolution is coming my whole 41 years of living (with some even predicting 2020s as the timeframe), but so few seem to be prepared for it.

@3DRevolution

17 сағат бұрын

@@RubelliteFae it's difficult for the masses to truly believe change is coming until they see it, and if it's a drastic change, any tale that is foretold of it just seems fantastical.

Those results are really bad for sites you need to pay for to get any real use out of them...

Moms Spagetti?

@3DRevolution

13 күн бұрын

Knees weak, arms are heavy

But we need to see AI junk

@3DRevolution

12 күн бұрын

I do appologise, did I not include enough AI junk here? I can always deliver more!

Disappointing .I will wait till it makes more sense.

@3DRevolution

12 күн бұрын

The AI generation is quite hit or miss. Absolutely not giving you an end-game product yet, but considering what it's doing, it's still pretty remarkable. Going from having nothing in the world like this, to being able to just write down a sentence of text and have a 3D model created for you, that is pretty game changing. Iterative steps, we'll get there eventually.

Keep your spaghetti out of Will Smiths mouth!@!

I don't mean to show up just to drag a video but this popped up on my feed so I'm gonna throw this thought out there. Let this AI nonsense die, it's not good and I really doubt it ever will be. The majority of generative llm are just a scam, which is especially evident in the 3D generative tools you showcased. The fact that they're charging to create a mediocre and mostly unusable mesh with no consistency in output should be pretty telling. Add on the problematic creation of these generative products using massive amounts of unlicensed, uncredited, uncompensated work and you risk promoting exploitation. The idea of typing an idea and getting a 3D model is amazing, but the reality of what you get is far from that. Judging from the history of LLM companies it will never reach that idea either.

@3DRevolution

2 күн бұрын

I totally get that some people aren't a fan of the changes that various AI is bringing, and I straddle the fence on it myself. However, I'd be very interested to know what you mean by most LLM's being a scam. I use LLM's almost daily and they do exactly what they say on the tin. As for the quality of these models, I do agree, the quality is not there... yet. As I mention in the video, every tool I covered here is available to use for free (to a limit) right now. Of course they will charge for excessive usage as running an AI server farm costs a huge amount of money. But also they need to get as many people using it as possible because that is how it will improve. They give people a chance to use their tools for free so people are only going to pay to use their service more if they've already tried it (for free) and are happy that the quality meets their requirements. As I mention in the video, look at those horrifying and laughghable AI generated videos of Will Smith eating spaghetti. That was completely unusable and pretty much a joke and was the best we could expect at the time. 9 months later and SORA is announced demoing almost photo realistic minute long video clips. It took like 3 days for the world to realise the pope hadn't suddenly become fassionable after MidJourney hit the internet, and that was almost a year ago with plenty of improvement since then. This is early days for this technology and it's evolving quickly. Yes there is questions around the training data but that's a whole separate conversation.

@gabrielspangler6964

2 күн бұрын

@@3DRevolution The training data is generally the forefront of the problem in my eyes, but moving past that to the note of calling it a scam. I call it a scam because the technology has been "getting better" or "only improving" for years. The best I've seen is simply a different option in a production pipeline, often worse and rarely better. Especially when a company is selling an amount of generations. It's more akin to a mobile game with random lootboxes, or slot machines than an actual art tool I think it's also important to note that these tools are never developed as a tool for artists. it's not meant to support but replace, and it's proven time and again that it can't do that. In the realm of 3D models generative tech skips to the end product and it's virtually useless, there is nothing of a functional 3D pipeline and I've seen no intent of taking that direction. The only successful application I've seen for any generative ai tech is to create internet spam (or worse)

@3DRevolution

2 күн бұрын

@@gabrielspangler6964 The training data is a difficult one and I am divided on that. On the one hand I don't think they should be just taking other peoples protected work without permision, and as a creative myself I empathise with that side of things. However, equally I feel that on the whole, the various forms of generative AI aren't copying. If I knew that a photo of me had been used to train MidJourney, I could write a detailed prompt describing that photo exactly and run it through MidJourney 1 million times. It would never just reproduce the picture of me. It would create a new picture inspired by it's training data. But the thing is, weirdly, that's just human. Everything we all produce is inspired both by our experience (aka external influence, which is akin to receiving a prompt), and inspiration taken from work we've seen of others. No professional photographer got to where they were having never seen a single other photo by anyone in their entire life. They'd learned and studied the work of photographers they liked and that influenced their own work. The exact same could be said for writers, directors, programmers, musicians, the list is kind of endless. Anyway, that's my two cents on the training data debackle. No it's not right to take other peoples work without asking, but also, no it's not copying it, it's just taking inspiration from it like any human creator. Yes I understand the technical mechanics of it are different, but that's the crux of it. You say it's a scam and that it's been 'only improving' for years and you specifically referred to LLMs. ChatGPT, arguably the first true publically accessible LLM only came out in November 2022. So LLM's have only been around publically for 18 months, so they have not been publically around for years, let alone improving. Despite that, in that time they have improved greatly. I think it may be helpful to hone in on what exactly you're referring to here. You refer to AI with regards to art, whilst you say "Let this AI nonsense die". From this I'm presuming you're reffering exlusively to generative AI because even if you're not a fan of what it can produce and do, AI in general has in those 18 months made monumental changes in various fields. From overtaking 3 decades of protein folding research in a matter of hours, to discovering new cancer treatments. But even just keeping to the generative AI's such as LLMs and image generators, they have developed a lot and are becoming increasingly useful, especially LLMs. I have several friends who are very high end programmers with decades of experience and in charge of whole teams, who now use LLMs on a daily basis, helping with things like error finding, or even writing or theorising new code. The vocal capabilities which are also improving are even allowing LLMs to become a useful tool in things like speech and language therapy. Again, I know the models generated in this video aren't award winning, but considering how early generative 3D models is in the game, I think it's incredibly impressive, and honestly in a year I wouldn't be surprised if you could get production quality designs out of some of these tools. Saying AI is entirely a joke based on the first generation of 3D models is like saying any great artist was a joke and would never amount to anything based on their scriblings as a 1 year old. This is early days and the technology is developing at a very quick rate.

@gabrielspangler6964

2 күн бұрын

@@3DRevolution I disagree with the concept that it's inspired like a human. These models are programmed using other's work. They are a product that is made by using images, writing, video, voice, etc. without permission. Any other product would be immediately flagged for that. Yes I am specifically talking about generative ai. I've been following a lot of professionals in various industries and a general consensus among most of them, is that generative ai isn't helpful. Or at least isn't helpful enough to justify it's use. And there are far to many cases of creative professionals being replaced or paid less because of ai. Personally any generative ai I've been given to work from has been a hindrance. I've heard the promises of what it can do if it gets better, but I've also seen the reality of what it's done. Suffice to say I'm unimpressed, and I don't think it's worth exploring more in it's current direction

garbage.

@3DRevolution

12 күн бұрын

One man's trash...

@TheOrijinalPajeet

12 күн бұрын

@@3DRevolution is still trash.

ai for a phone stand??? cummon!!!!! it like using a hammer to open a peanut! use tools the right way plzzzzzz

@3DRevolution

12 күн бұрын

Sorry I'm a little unsure what you mean. Are you saying you think a phone stand is too much of a precision item for something as bruit-force as AI?

Ai art is trash