That take on the Guentzel deal I can't say I agree with. Even if you say it's a lateral move, it's an additional 5 years (based on aging curve) of a player of the same caliber. Saying Stamkos was great belies not having watched the Lightning all that much. he was a disaster at 5 on 5 defensively and had a massive negative rating.

@derekpaddon9553

Ай бұрын

exactly Stammer was good for minus 3 a night most nights

@codycampbellfishing2007

Ай бұрын

Also don’t forget he’ll be on a line with a pass heavy Kucherov if he stays healthy his numbers could be crazy. Also same goes for Stamkos benefiting from Kuch I think he’ll have a dip this year

@camc9225

Ай бұрын

Forsberg could feed him too tho​@@codycampbellfishing2007

@iamkool12342

27 күн бұрын

not to mention sergachev was a defensive liability most nights. i feel like people that dont watch the lightning were grossly overhyping how good he actually was. Tampa losing sergachev/stamkos and adding guentzel/mcdonagh more than likely will make a significant positive impact on their team defence. scoring may take a bit of a dip, but you never know. it will be interesting to see how good our powerplay is now

@joshhildenbrand218

25 күн бұрын

@@iamkool12342as a lightning fan and a stamkos fan, they were trying to hide him in 5v5. The numbers don’t do it justice, he was worse than awful in 5v5. He’s a PP merchant now, not worth even 5 million AAV

About the Campbell/Detroit goalie situation. 1. Campbell is a Michigan boy, signed to league min, to play in the AHL. He is an upgrade from Huttonson (?) and will hopefully help Cossa develop, it’s low risk high reward in the case he remembers where he left his talent he had during his time playing for Toronto. Talbot is an upgrade over Reimer purely on consistency. He and Lion will be sharing the crease. I think Husso might still be hurt, or the mgmt has lost faith in him. If I remember correctly he was playing shakey, got hurt, came back for a game or two, got hurt again, came back, played half a game, and was hurt again.

@exturkconner

Ай бұрын

It's not a low risk high reward move. It's a no risk high reward move. You can bury it 100% in the AHL. The only thing it costs you is a contract slot.

@andrewminidis9776

Ай бұрын

Yeah this was a horrible contract to pick, there were way worse deals out there and husso is getting moved I'm pretty sure

@Sarge3991

Ай бұрын

I think you hit the nail on the head. Clearly this Jesse Blake person doesn’t understand any of that.

@BillMalburg

Ай бұрын

#badtakeblake

@theDaveStanzito

Ай бұрын

Maybe Cam Talbot will be tet latest in a long line players to make a twilight end run for the Wings. Mike Vernon, Osgood in two tours and Hasek all were up there in years when they won cups in Detroit. My knee jerk reaction yesterday was "why him?" until I remembered not to question the Captain.

Stamkos is NOT what people think he is anymore- as a fan who has watched every game since Stammer came into the league. Tampa had to improve 5x5 and Stamkos stinks 5x5. Collapses under pressure and passes to nowhere- Flubs more passes than he handles- Never back checks- rarely wins a wall battle- Floats and waits to be set up for the one timer- has gotten worse in the faceoff circle. Numbers are inflated playing with Hedman and Kooch setting him up. SOFT- will probably improve over the short term with the Preds, but will fall off quickly into his old ways.

@acs78393

Ай бұрын

I think there's an argument to be made Stamkos on a $4.5M deal + another $4.5M middle 6 winger using the leftover money > Guentzel at $9M, particularly over the short term. The team desperately needed more weapons on the wing, which is why Duclair's addition was such a gamechanger. However, you're right about Stammer's play recently. Anyone saying "40 goals" and "lateral move" in comparison to Guentzel just hasn't watched him outside the Panthers series. His shot is still amongst the best ever but on-ice doesn't do anything else well. Hagel has already passed him up as LW1.

@itsdarkout10

Ай бұрын

100% agree. He's also 35 now, and being kind of injury prone through his career, it's probably going to not get better.

@jimburris8955

Ай бұрын

@@acs78393 Your scenario may have worked out but we had Duclair which is similar and it was not nearly good enough. Bolts still have over 5Mil and JBB said he was not done. So Guentzel and that forward you reference is the better plan IMO.

@acs78393

Ай бұрын

@@jimburris8955 If JBB uses that cap space to get someone like Tarasenko I think the Bolts will clearly be better than last year. JBB just has to go out and actually get it done.

@cowboywayne35

Ай бұрын

All 40 goals were flukes?

Aboslute Bolts homer, and while losing Stammer is a huge emotional blow. His 5 on 5 is why we didn't want to pay him. He is a liability on the 5 on 5 side. Most of his goals and points come off the power play which is being setup by Kuch and Heddy.

@obibaddad1991

Ай бұрын

Agree. I am from Tampa. Stamkos is one or two years away from the current rendition of Ovi. Not active on 5 on 5 and a fixed entity on his spot waiting for a set up on the power play. Also, don't know how the Lightning fans can be surprised at this move. Don't they remember Marty St Louis?

@Drainbamege

Ай бұрын

@@obibaddad1991 And Vinny too.

@disgoyknows88

Ай бұрын

Keep coping, 9 mil for a two time 40 goal scorer is trash when Stamkos 7 time 40+ scorer asked for 5 mil.

@alexkorneev6469

27 күн бұрын

Still believe they should have shipped him to Seattle during expansion 😅 dude is aging badly, so it's a great thing he is gone

@KyleMacSkill

27 күн бұрын

I 100% agree. People are talking about his production, like he didn't play almost every minute of every game with a guy who put up 144 points and who runs the 2nd most dangerous pp in the league.

Dallas moves were weird. You buyout Suter because presumably you think he's bad value as a 5-6 at his caphit. Which to be fair he was. But then you sign bottom pairing guys at like the same money. Why not just keep the guy? Now you are paying him a chunk to not play for you and you picked up equally bad options. I don't get how this made more sense then just riding out that deal. It seems like they wanted the devil they didn't know instead of the one they did. And that just seems stupid.

@chief3619

29 күн бұрын

Wild fan here. Rumor was that Suter was part of the cancer club in our locker room. Will I ever know? No. But there was a giant sigh of relief around here once he was gone, for whatever that’s worth. Dumba on the other hand? There’s a reason he himself wore Dumba55 for quite a while. He had one good season ended short by injury. The rest is who he actually is.

I clicked on this video thinking to myself, “ Dumba better be on this list” and he sure is😅 Great call outs!

@bobross6318

Ай бұрын

Why?

27 күн бұрын

Same. One of the most overhyped players of all time, and dressing room poison.

@veteranvolunteerstudyproje8096

27 күн бұрын

@@bobross6318 he has been on a steady decline, but his last half of the season with the TBL, yikes! I wish him the best, but I knew his name would have to be on this list.

I gotta say much respect Jesse, this video is a breath of fresh air for me right now. The news where I live recently has caused friends/family/work ppl & people in general to be agitated and at eachothers throats. Sorry for moping but just wanna show you some respect 🙌. Hope the crab people have a good week!!

For the DRW Husso keeps getting hurt. He was put on wavers down to Grand Rapids did the warm up and was pulled off. Not expecting him to be on the ice much. "Personally " I'd start Alex as #1. He proved himself this past year.

Not really a signing but the worst move was Washington trading for Pierre Luc Dubois. Seven years at $8.5 million will feel like an eternity. Honourable mention to Juraj Slavkovsky 8 years at $7.6 million for a guy with zero track record. That is the worst kind of wishful thinking. I'd want my 7.6$ million forward to score 35 and 75. Could easily happen, but when? Pittsburgh picked up Kevin Hayes for two years at 3.5714 million. He's not worth it. #7 Warren Foegele 3 years at $3.5 million, just too much for the offense he brings. #6 Dallas 3 years at $3.25 for Lyabushkin seems pricy #5 LA Kings 4 years $3.85 million for Joel Edmundson. Love Joel but he can't stay healthy. He has never played 80 games in the regular season. Never played 70. Last five years it was 53, 61, 14, 55, 68. #4 Buffalo 5$ million for Jason Zucker?? He's maybe a 40 point player if you are lucky. The stars align and he plays 82 games maybe he scores 20. 3$ million for Skinner would have been way better spent. #3 Dallas Matt Dumba 2 years $5.5 million. Just no. #2 Seattle Chandler Stephenson I like him. He did a lot for Vegas. He deserved to get paid, by them. 7 years at $6.25 million is too much. #1 Nikita Zadorov Boston 6 years at 5$ million for this physical third pair defenseman. He got too much name recognition as Calgary tried to trade him. People confused that with ability. Guentzel is a good contract. He's better than say Mitch Marner for less money and a better playoff performer. He's Younger by five years than Stamkos. I think they had given up on Sergachev ever being the Hedman replacement especially after the injury. J.J. Moser is a nice add, young offensive defensemen. Moser is young. They are trying to extend their teams window by getting a little younger and cheaper.

If we want Stamkos back we can probably add him in 2 years at 50% retained by Nashville

I am shocked Chandler Stephenson didn't make this list.

@wakankinyan

23 күн бұрын

Me too, ha!

Yeah we’re so confused in Tampa. Seems that they got rid of the injury prone players & don’t want to wait around a year or 2 for them to be totally healthy and stammer will start breaking down pretty soon -he’s on blood thinners too. I think with Stammer this really started last year when the final blow to his comfort level was when Alex Killorn was traded-it was the final straw and Stammer had a very bad attitude and Killer was chirping in Stammers ear of how Tampa will stab you. Stammer for 3/4 of season was miserable and when you’re the Captain and you’re leaving the team full of new guys hanging it was noticeable on the ice. The new guys were pumped and Stammer their Capt was miserable & Killer is running his mouth because he’s still angry. It wasn’t until we got Dumba and Duclair that we had an up,fit in the locker room and even Stammer said it helped. Then we had a team full of happy players. If people have p,ahead a team sport you know how important it is to have a locker room with a few types of personalities in it to break thru the stress and make it a brotherhood. We had lost a lot of that in 2 years and now a room full of new guys and a pissed soured captain. The Capt tag played a role in this decision in my opinion and it makes you a target if you can’t control your emotion and can’t do your part. It’s not like they would remove that C from him so i think that came into play. I love Stammer and this hurts. But to say Tampa isn’t faithful is wrong -he’s been here 16 years and Hedman is right there at 15yrs -that’s not popular in the league. Everyone knows in any sport you start getting in mid 30s and everyone is waiting for that one day that you aren’t the same-that happens in normal life-you wake up and you aren’t the same. Father time is undefeated. So being a soured Capt didn’t help and as Capt he knew we needed to see what we needed to fill after the year. Tamp was very faithful and we had a stretch when we didn’t have Stammer do to injury and health issues-he has some kind of problem that is kept quiet. Plus Alex Killer Killorn is chirping in his ear and hoping Stammer would leave the bolts for revenge -also remember Stammers best friend is Marty St. Louis who had bad exit at end of career here too. It made me puke watching Marty Jersey go up as our first retired Jersey -the dude nonstop talks crap about Tampa to this day and left in bad terms and only talks about NY. It’s BS. So Stammer acts like in a league where he’s played 16yrs on one team and that’s rare that he got screwed but he didn’t -he chose to leave for money. Hes been paid over a $100 million here and your last 2 yrs you don’t hang out. So he says not about money then leaves because of money. Plus i think ppl are forgetting how much Stammer gets away with here. He can do whatever and that won’t be the case in Nashville and he’ll have to do things he refused for years and we are forgetting if he doesn’t have Kuch or Heddy giving him insane passes can he score like that and will Jake score more with Kuch passing those crazy passes to him. There are X factors that might hurt Stammer and help Jake. If Stammer didn’t get soured last year with Killer trade and stayed positive like Hedman is doing now i think he is still here and there comes a time you aren’t the teachers pet anymore and we see it in every sport-stammer is going to have to work more and take orders where he’s going-he ran the ship here. So one last thing for perspective on if Tampa was loyal-if you were just out of college at age 24 and started watching Tampa-you’d be 40 now as Stammer leaves-you would’ve got married ,built your career ,had teenage kids owned a home all in the time Stammer has been at Tampa and he could’ve come up with a fair deal and you didn’t have 1 teammate willing to chip in to keep him either. That has happened on NFL and NBA teams so it has happened. He chose money and chose to leave as a soured spoiled selfish Capt. he still hasn’t acted like a captain-i think deep down players are sad but ready to not have to worry about stepping on stammers toes and they’ll, play harder with a positive coach and now they get to try and be a star to fill the void left. Might not happen but players will be trying. But i truly believe Stammer will cool off in 2 yrs and he will get hurt over next 2yrs and that will be that and he will come back as our Coach. Stammer will be a Coach of somebody when he’s ready and i think with the love he has here and our owner that he’ll comeback and coach.

Buffalo can’t just go give Jake Debrusk 9 million just to come to Buffalo. They need to work with in a budget. They are already going to have to over pay Byram to stay and EPL also. There wasn’t any free agents worth grossly overpaying for this year.

I love Jake Guentzel but he is a totally different type of player than Stammer. It will be interesting to see how Tampa configures that top line.

The Talbot and Campbell signings are literally the most innocuous deals. Idk how you can call them bad? 2.5 for a goalie that had a 913 and 15 saves above expected? Also Husso hasn't been healthy for more than a calendar year. He might be an LTIR tbh.

@nummytacos128

Ай бұрын

Talbot is at least defensible because he was an all-star for the earlier portion of the season. Obviously he shit the bed later on, but 2.5 is still quite the overpay. I thought he would get another 1 year $1.25-1.5m.

Yea I gotta be honest the Detroit Goalie take is slightly uninformed. Husso has been injured for part of each the past 3 seasons. Steve isn’t trying to collect goalies, rather find a solution to use until the the two elite goalie prospects start to break into the system. Cossa will be a mainstay in GR, and a player with NHL experience goes a long way there. Steve and the organization know that you can’t force goalies into the NHL (@ Kevyn Adams), and it doesn’t make sense to overcommit assets to a top tier starting goalie when the primary players in the system are still 25 and under. The team is young, despite what the media likes to portray. Remove Copp, Compher, and Chiarot, the term on all of the older players (not named Larkin) is 2 years. There will be 3 new young players in the lineup this year, and in 2 years I expect there to be at least 3-5 more. Most of which are first round talents.

Could it be that one of the Detroit goalies have an undisclosed major injury that need surgery and they waited to announce that to not hike up the prices?

Ah yes trust the reporter from Toronto on anything Sabres related.

Spending $4 million for 2 years on a 36 year old David Perron. The Senators must be crazy. There were a lot of bad signings yesterday, and some of those contracts won't age well.

@Tyler-ml6ip

23 күн бұрын

Ya he's way too slow now

@marie2274

23 күн бұрын

@@Tyler-ml6ip 👍

So here is where I disagree on Tampa. 1. Guentzel is similar in scoring totals, but he is significantly better at 5v5 which was an area for us. We also still have cap space to continue to add and to be lateral with money in pocket is not bad.

Your gentzel take is wrong. You want to talk about Stamkos having 40 goals last year but half of them were on the poweplay, also Stamkos wasn’t playing great up until the last month of the season when he went off. He’s aging. Gentzel can probably score 50 with kuch feeding him. Also gentzel is a better 5v5 player which is what we struggled with last year

@BarefootKobra

Ай бұрын

Power play goals do count and matter just as much as 5 on 5 and also gentzel has never scored more then 40 in time the playing with crosby. also they had to trade sergachev who was a their number 2 D man to make this happen

solid summary

Agree all the deals look bad except for the Talbot deal, which I believe should help Detroit.

Talbot makes sense, because no one is sure if Husso is going to regain form. Husso was really bad before he was injured and then he never stopped being injured. I can agree with Campbell, no idea why Steve signed him.

As a Stars fan, I don't think the Dumba/Ilya contracts were plan A or B (yes probably plan D to match the logo lol)...but at least they are shorter term (not sure why Ilya got a 3rd year but Nill gets the benefit of doubt for now). I am sure they thought they could get Tanev resigned, and when that didn't work out it was a HARD pivot to just get some right shot D in the building and go from there. Dallas was pushed around in the playoffs so some hits and grit were needed in the lineup and they certainly got THAT (add in Brendan Smith to the equation). At the end of the day, this isn't the Franchise Mode in NHL...players want to get paid and have family decisions to make. While I don't love the moves, I am more than willing to let it play out and see...if it gets Miro back on his strong/correct side of the ice it could actually be a net positive.

Wow! Thank you Rob Blake. Your decision making is so appreciated. Let's Go Ducks!!!

I think looking back, the Stamkos deal and perhaps the Tanev deals have huge downside potential. Stamkos has tons of wear and tear and plays an athletic hard nosed game - will be interesting what he can do without Kucherov and if he can stay healthy. As for Tanev, i understand the thought about spreading the cap hit over 6 years, but at that age an injury or just general decline in athleticism can happen super fast - so he might not give the leafs even the 2-4 years of quality play that they expect. I also think Guenztel is a big risk - always played with Crosby and not sure he really is a top line impact player as opposed to just another good top 6 forward l.

I'm curious to see how Stamkos does without Kucherov feeding him the puck. I thought they would keep Duclair. Offensively his speed energized them.

8:34 you can think that Guentzel is a lateral move all you want but Tampa got better 5 v 5 on their top line. They got two young players in Geekie and Moser with a good number of picks for Jeannot and Sergy (who gets paid like the #1 D on a team but doesn’t play like it). They also got very unlucky because Vasy missed a huge chunk of the season and when he did come back it took a while for him to find his groove. They still need to make some changes to the bottom 6 but if Vasy stays healthy you’d be ill-advised to count Tampa out. This extreme knee jerk of emotion that Tampa will never recover from losing Stamkos is a bit absurd. Is it sad that he’s gone? Absolutely. I was 10 years old when he was drafted and nearly 100% of my hockey memory includes him in a bolts jersey. But I’m not gonna let that cloud my judgement that we got better, got younger, and stocked pile draft picks for 2025 after years of have maybe 4 picks every draft.

Long time Kings fan, since 67-68. these moves don't add up. The only thing I can think of is that Blake has decided to bring up all his prospect and wanted some muscle to Protect Clarke, spence and whoever else he promotes from Ontario. The PLD and Peterson contracts just wrecked the Kings promising rebuild. Just last year lots of pundits were listing the Kings as dark horse candidates for a cup run. I think they will struggle to make the playoffs this year

You had so many terrible contracts to choose from and you selected 1 year contract, contract for AHL and improvement over Stamkos? Wow!

Not sure I understand why the Talbot deal is bad. Husso has been hurt and not good and Lyon turned into a pumpkin at the second half of the year. It’s Cams Talbots crease to lose before the season even starts, and to say that it’s bad getting that for someone that cost $2.5 is something I don’t agree with. Detroit tandem was awful last season they needed to do something.

Day 2 worst is the typical signing of a senior goalie like James Reimer like OMFG 🤬 what are you doing Buffalo. They could have signed Atkinson instead of Zucker for the same price as well.

Kings fan here.. Couldn’t have said it better myself. Lately (last couple seasons) it really seems to me like Rob Blake is just committed to being mid. Just enough for the playoff dates, and maybe we don’t have to play edm and get a second round. This whole free agency day right after the conclusion to that brutal PLD trade tree is extremely frustrating to sit through

@waltmeyer1156

25 күн бұрын

Lifelong Kings fan.Blake is an idiot and even worse, listening to Bergevin.....and we saw how his strategy worked in Montreal.....

Tampa got younger signing Guenzel over Stamkos. Good move as resigning a 34 year old player to 4 or 5 years at 8 mil per not the best move. Let Preds sign him to his retirement contract.

Tampa trending laterally with extra draft picks and cap space would be a win, but Tampa lost alot of fan goodwill in these moves.

Cam Talbot was in the all star game last year. Its also a not well guarded secret (evidently except from you) that the Wings are moving on from Husso. I'm not sure you understand what a bad signing is?? A 1 yr $800k deal could never be a "worst deal" unless the player was dead.

Cam Talbot is better than Husso and Alex Lyon. Husso wasn't healthy at all last season and Jack Campbell will be the backup in Grand Rapids. So you just don't know hockey. Only a Leafs fan would have this as one of the worst signing even though he was an all star last season. Tanev is probably the worst contract with the amount of term they gave him. Leafs will miss the playoffs this season. Red Wings will get in over them.

I'm shocked you think Buffalo is a contender. Rhe point about Zucker fine. Theyvare still trying to establish a strong core. They have great players but it's not there yet. With Lindsy and that D. This year will be interesting for them but I thought that last year too.

@scottmiller8617

Ай бұрын

Buffalo and Ottawa are due to take a step forward soon.

@tankdiggs8974

Ай бұрын

@@scottmiller8617 not to be ride but will believe when I see it because the same thing was said last year and I believed it on both counts. I hope they do. Buffalo D is crazy.

@scottmiller8617

Ай бұрын

@@tankdiggs8974 I agree, a lot will need to go right with both teams, but Ottawa addressed their goaltending (which is huge), and Buffalo has scary depth. Their success largely depends on continued development of their young core, that's why predicting their results is hard to do.

Red Wings fan here. The Wings don't have faith in Husso. Cam Talbot will be in the top three mix, unless they manage to trade Husso. Jack Campbell is number four, which they needed last season when both Husso and Lyon were injured. I like this because it means Sebastien Cossa can remain in Grand Rapids and doesn't need to be rushed, similiar to The Leafs situation with Dennis Hilldeby

Cam Talbot is a phenomenal value at $2.5 per. He can win the starting job in Detroit pretty easily. They’re going to have to move a goalie or two.

I think Stevie Y is a LOT smarter than a podcast host. Thanks for showing up!

@ryans413

Ай бұрын

Talbot and Campbell what the hell. That bad my guy.

In the wings defense cam will help them win few more games and maybe that’ll get them in playoffs since they missed barely. Husso kinda sucks at times

Rob Blake is expecting his core players to be good enough to carry the team by supplementing them with a bunch of bottom six players. It's not a recipe for playoff success, and it shows to me that they are not willing to send any of their core away. Moore, Kempe, Danault, and Fiala should all be shopped for some kind of star like Marner. Just flip the script and admit to the fans that filling a roster with B-tier talent is not a recipe success unless you are the VGK (excluding Eichel). The Warren Foegele signing is actually pretty solid. He replaces Arvidsson's grit and powerful skating, but he's just another left-handed shot on a team that is full of left-handed shots. Joel Edmundson is an overpay for a player who is on par with Andreas Englund as far as their role goes. He's a big dude who's gonna clear the crease and that's about all. Fortunately they have a ton of young talent still that is growing, so part of me is optimistic that this roster actually has a lot of potential to grow this year. They also have about 10m in space left to sign Byfield and complete their roster. Byfield should get a bridge deal for under 5m a year. This means that they could still gun for a big name by trading a roster player (maybe Trevor Moore after his 30 goal campaign or an extremely cost-effective Mikey Anderson even though he is likely untouchable). Unfortunately, I'm expecting them to try for someone big, fail to obtain that player, realize that their roster is only good enough to make another first round exit, then fire Blake and Robitaille for another disappointing year.

Nothing could possibly excite a Stars fan in losing Tanev and gaining Dumba/Lyubushkin. Nothing. On the other hand, i'm interested to see how DeSmith fits in at goalie. I hope he doesn't make me as nervous as Wedgewood did.

Not to stick up for Yzerman too much, as he is a proven idiot, but Campbell was signed to be an AHL goalie while Talbot replaces Reimer as the team that wants 3 goalies

1. Joel Edmundson to Los Angeles; 4 years; 3.85M AAV 2. Jake Guentzel to Tampa Bay; 9 years, 7M AAV 3. Cam Talbot to Detroit; 2 years, 2.5M AAV 4. Matt Dumba to Dallas; 2 years, 3.75M AAV (Ilya Lyubushkin. 2 years, 3.25M AAV) 5. Jason Zucker to Buffalo; 1 year, 5M

@jjjobin7124

29 күн бұрын

Keep it late hockey call 📞

Everyone overpays on free agency day. Its pay MSRP or forget it. Thats why the leafs didnt get a goalie and settled for Stolarz. The Mitch Marner situation is going to screw them even worse.

I wonder if Detroit is going to try to move Husso or Lyon?

As a Stars fan I would have said no to dumba but I would have taken boosh just because he's a good veteran depth player back there better in my opinion than suter but I feel like we could have goot like a Jason Zucker guy to reply or someone like that to replace a guy like Craig Smith

No way Tanev contract way worse then Edmondson

@Tyler-ml6ip

23 күн бұрын

Tanev was the worst contract period 😂

I feel that the Monahan deal should have been 1st lol

@safertobeanonymous2224

Ай бұрын

It cost them a 1rst to get rid of him at 1x6 Good thing Columbus will be terrible so won’t need the cap space for those 5 years.

@exturkconner

Ай бұрын

Columbus is terrible so it really doesn't matter. Putting Monahan and Gudrea together again is fun if nothing else and what your team is a shit show you have to at least give the fans something fun. I think that deal made a lot of sense for them.

@user-xg8ig6zx5r

Ай бұрын

If Monahan does what he did last year or more you will be wrong so it COULD be good lol , never know yet .

@exturkconner

Ай бұрын

@@user-xg8ig6zx5r I mean it doesn't matter. Columbus is going to suck anyhow. Frankly if he does well they'll probably trade him. It's in their best interest to rebuild and not be good.

Guentzel is a better player than Stamkos by all the metrics, was it the right move? I dont know but they are better now, good enough? No

LA gets better if they finish 2nd or 3rd and Edmonton finishes 1st in the division. For once they won't be playing Edmonton in round 1. However, they miscalculated and finish 4th in the division and see Edmonton in round 1. The first time they took Edmonton to 7, then 6, then 5. This coming year they'll take Edmonton to 4 games. You called it right at free agency.

@jjjobin7124

29 күн бұрын

16 Mars play off spider league Stanley cup leaf jj 😜

All of these contracts are worse than adams divorce

9:08 Let's just hope next year Tampa will play again Toronto and whipe the ice with leafs so we could remind this "expert" his words

Devs and Isles improved...maybe Hawks will be better...everyone else got worse...we'll see in Nashville

I would put the tanev deal as the worst of free agency , at that age with that tern and the way he playa, alot of hard shifts on tanev but the leafs are the best team at cap scams , with LTIR

Not surprisingly no mention of the Tanev and OEL deals. Both terrible. Leafs got slower and older

@SatansSun

Ай бұрын

When you compare Tanev to any of the leafs RD over the past decade, he's one of their best. It's a decent signing in the short term. The long term will be awful though. That cap hit, with Tanev not getting any younger, will likely come back to bite the Leafs in the ass.

@quercusquercus532

Ай бұрын

@@SatansSun Agreed. Way too many people seem content with "he'll retire" or "they'll put him on IR". The deal goes 4 years beyond the expiry of the current CBA, and we gave him an NMC, cuz of course we did.

@SatansSun

Ай бұрын

@quercusquercus532 Yeah, people are getting way too hung up on LTIR being a possibility in the future, when for all we know, he could stay healthy but his skills could plummet. And ofc, it wouldn't be a Leafs signing without the added NMC for whatever reason 💀

@user-xg8ig6zx5r

Ай бұрын

TML made themselves another 1st round exit team , 0 chance this team will beat BOS and I am unfortunately a TML fan but thinking of change lol.

@derps8690

Ай бұрын

@@user-xg8ig6zx5ryou’re not a leafs fan, you’re a troll. your anonymous account and constant leafs bantering is evident of that.

Do people want to play in Buffalo?

I'll give Jake a shot in Tampa, but McDonough over Sergechev? No way thats a better D line.

At least Dangle wasn't interjecting.... That would for sure stop subscription

Stevey Y is just hoarding goalies so he can get some assets/picks back when he trades 1 or 2 of those goalies to Toronto later in the year--see J Woll, see M Murray. Hmmmmm...

Sleeping on my Bolts. We will miss stammer, but Jake Guentzel is 4 years younger that’s what makes the difference

Leafs should sign G Lindstrom, A Nylander and A Boqvist too 2-way contracts

TML and Liljegren won't be on list because it is only 3M X3 but can anyone please explain why this was a good idea for TML? I really hope a team asked for us to sign this and he is part of a trade but why do we have 8 or 9 defense instead of 7 better quality defense? Why did we not get a real 1st pair defense to pair with Rielly after all this BS knowing we need 1 we get Tanev at 35 to play more minutes then has has in a long time? As for your list you missed the other horrible X TML signing of Brodie to CHI, why just why CHI lol.

@cbi-ju5mi

Ай бұрын

Is the deal not 3m x 2 years?

Detroit signing Jack Campbell like WTF

@ryans413

Ай бұрын

And Talbot

At this point you HAVE to think nothing else but Buffalo is TRYING to not be good right now. I think they are going to wait until this roster they have make the playoffs or show signs of life without any help THEN they will start signing guys to longer term deals that will actually help the team. Right now I think theyre content on piling on the top teir prospects Which isnt a bad idea tbh... Theyre probably 4 years out of really contending. Unless they seriously go after it by signing a goalie and some top teir forwards. I personally think this ill be the last year of them purposely tanking. I think the owners were just tired of not having any gooddrafted talent in the organization so theyre literally drsfting high on purpose , theres no other explanaton for it. Not thiscoming year but the year after look out. Power will be 23. They have guys like Quinn, Benson. Rosen, Kulich, Savvoie , Ostlund , they have really restocked their cupboards you cant contend unless you either have a really good team. oryou have a plethera of assets to trade toaquire the pieces you need towin.

Edmundson’s contract by far

Seems like Marc Bergevin really like Joel Edmundson.

Buffalo signs jason Zucker was horrible could have got him at league minimum

Husso is injury prone.

None of us kings fans are a fan of RBs moves.

The Tanev deal is awful my guy.

Terrible signing by Blake. It's time for him to go. He signed a 31 year old, 3rd line dman for 4 years at 3.8. Holy crap. They had Moverare as a LHD man. They have Jeanotte as they sandpaper guy. Nobody needs Edmundson, and sure not for 3.8 million. That's like half the PLD contract for someone who can't do anything!

Chandler Stephenson the worst signing by far. A decent player but the contract of 6.25m/7yr is criminal. It has left us with only 10m cap when we still need to agree a new deal with Beniers and Tolvanen so going to have to get rid of some players to accommodate...I think purely because of the crazy contract Chandler signing is going to cause more problems than it's worth

@frankcastle10

Ай бұрын

FACTS and the montour deal is not that good too but that deal is brutal. Seems like RF wants to get fired sooner than later.

@johnnyboro8610

Ай бұрын

@frankcastle10 I can just about stomach the Montour deal because I can see how our defense is stronger with him, especially his offensive side of play. But I think we needed a net crashing forward not what Stephenson offers...very passive, and only proven returns when he's got better players around him. If anything he's an obstacle to Beniers and Wright development now. I'd rather have gone into the season with what we have give the kids a real run at it with McCann and Bjorkstrand. His contract is going to be a thorn in new GMs side in a few years now....I say new GM because like you i can't see Francis being here much longer with these type of deals being done on his watch

@johnnyboro8610

Ай бұрын

I think Ron has done this to save his job...put himself first before the club. Has to make playoffs this season to save his job and with those deals might be enough now to do it...but that's very short sighted...might be ok for playoff qualification next couple of years but long term picture is more damaging when these guys are 36/37 and taking over $13m off our cap

@Hated_Sien

Ай бұрын

Stephenson is a great player, but not at 6.25 AAV. 3.75 possible 4 sure. Not at the price they paid, and for the term. This will be a contract buy out in 2028.

@johnnyboro8610

Ай бұрын

@Hated_Sien Looks like we have to pay a premium price to get players to want to come to Seattle as well

Short answer for Tampa is “are they better this coming year with Gentzel over stamkos?” I don’t think they are…..

@scottmiller8617

Ай бұрын

If Geekie makes the team and can contribute, they should be better offensively, but I don't think they can compensate defensively after moving Sergachev

@luc0007

Ай бұрын

Oh dude I just debated this with my buddy and honestly I think they might be better man. Stammer is a forever icon, they should've done the right thing & sign him cheap. But his 5v5 play has really gone downhill. He had 40 goals, 19 on powerplay - not bad at all, but this is an aging team & Guentzel is a skilled player with a bit more youth (29) Are they better without Sergachev? Nope. That hurts Are they better with McDonough? Doesn't hurt, not BETTER I think they do a little bit better than evening out in the wash. We'll see though

@safertobeanonymous2224

Ай бұрын

@@luc0007 yeah but Stamkos is a Center not a winger. Gentle is really good! But you win up the Center and I think stamkos and sergachev are better the Gentzel and Mcdoungh. Gentzel isn’t young enough to be adding youth. He will be quicker though.

How is Chandler Stephenson not on this list?

Stephenson and OEL were horrible deals

Bushkin was a flop in Anaheim.

Leafs need to jump on alex nylander before another team does

Who let bro cook?

STRETCH 🤣🤣🤣

The Guentzel take is god awful, man. You don't know anything about hockey. Please do more research.

Ah nice to see Dumba getting the mockery he deserves. WAY past his prime.

Jim Rutherford

Jake Gyllenhaal?

Dallas likes Minnesota guys .

Lol Jesse you are such a Red Wings hater. How in the world is signing Talbot one of the worse signings? The wings needed to improve their goaltending and they did that. Why is signing a 35 year old dman with injury history for 6 years a good move? I can be like you too and ignore all context that they need a player like him lol

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The GMs can't help themselves. If the player is not a cornerstone the team shud not be shelling out 6, 7 or 8 year deals. Stamkos for 4 years over Guentzel for 7, 99/100.

I couldn’t agree more,Gm Kevyn Adams has done nothing to improve the Sabres.

For detroit I believe it's smart getting Campbell and talbot. 2 former allstar goalies for under 3.5 million. With how quick goalies can be good or bad, it's a good bet. Plus now they could use Cossa or lyon as a trade chip for either zegras or Crosby. Zegras for Cossa, copp and a pick(you be the judge there) Or crosbitch (respectfully if he becomes a redwing) for cossa compher and the first next season

Man, you blew this one. The worst deal by far... was Chandler Stephenson to Seattle for 6.25 million a year for 7 years. He will be 37 at the end of the contract and makes him a higher paid player the Jonathan Marchessault.

I'm so glad one person on the internet said the quiet part out loud about McDonagh and Guentzel deals, Jeannot was good to get rid of him, but losing a 26 year old defensemen for a 32 year old in McDonagh and I'd say Sergachev is a better player than McDonagh too is crazy to me. And everyone is quick to say Stammer was old or what-not but he always put in a shift on that second line and towards the end of the season he was on the top line with Kuch and Point again. What's more if we had lost Stammer for a guy like Mitch Marner or Draisaitl I could accept it but right now I think we moved an asset for a worse piece, lost our captain and the glue that brought together our #1 PP for a guy that Pittsburgh let go... AGAIN Pittsburgh let him go!!! And even with Guentzel being 4 years younger we signed him to a 7 year deal I genuinely would have rather kept Stammer around for another 3 years than get Guentzel who got 20 points less than Stammer this season for all the folks out there trying to tell me that Stammer had a bad season Guentzel put up 20 less points and he was playing for Carolina for half the season. Tampa have gone backwards going into this season and honestly JBB needs to be held accountable at the end of the season when we miss out on the playoffs. Don't rate either McDonagh or Guentzel the two yound prospects we got from Utah seem to be good but I'd rather have kept Stammer, Duclair, and Sergachev if I'm being 100% honest. Edit: Wish Stamkos and Sergachev all the best at Nashville and Utah respectively.

@jksilta9335

25 күн бұрын

So much text and you managed to be wrong about almost everything, wow. Pittsburgh were forced to let Guentzel go, we would gladly take him back for 7x$9M if he would want to come. He is worth that, he is not just a 40g 40a product of Crosby. People assume Guentzel is good because of Crosby. Maybe 36 year old Crosby is still so good because of Guentzel. Let's see what Jake does with Kucherov and what Stamkos does without Kucherov. Also, Guentzel had 77 points and Stamkos 81, the difference is not 20 points. Stamkos had 4 points more while playing 12 games more. Guentzel played half a season in Carolina? 17 games is not half a season, it's one fifth of a season. During those 17 games he was scoring at a 120pts pace. Small sample size, yes, but if Guentzel and Kucherov stay healthy all season, Tampa fans will find out what Guentzel brings to the table. Penguin and Canes' fans already know.

You have to understand why the Kings and the other California teams had to overpay to get bums to go there. The California teams are a more hated destination than Winnipeg. Those 3 teams might be forced to move next offseason things don’t change.

@dallasburgess5329

Ай бұрын

😂😂 You may be the only one with that opinion. As a destination, CA is valued. They aren't Winnipeg, or old Phoenix, or Columbus... Unless the bosses on those teams are total a$$holes...🤔🤗

@vernonhowell4070

Ай бұрын

@@dallasburgess5329 then how come no one went there and the Kings had to massively overpay to get Joel Fn Edmunsdon and the Sharks had to overpay to get old and slow Toffoli just to get close to the cap floor? California is a dead market unless you are the Lakers or Rams and have enough money to offset the taxes.

@dallasburgess5329

Ай бұрын

@@vernonhowell4070 I think that's a team not winning issue. I hear tons about how CA and Florida, and Original 6 are the preffered destinations. Vegas not far behind.

@vernonhowell4070

Ай бұрын

@@dallasburgess5329 in 1990 that was true. Looks up California taxes and Canadian taxes and you will understand. Florida, Texas and Nashville are now the NHL hotspots. Celebrini will need a roommate in a 2 bedroom apartment for the first 3 years of his career like Brock Purdy.

The Guentzel deal is such a horrible deal. Guentzel is not worth the money. The whole Stammers issue gives me Brad Richards vibes after the Lightnings 04 cup win.