I run 2 executioners in my ironstorm and absolutely wreck ppl

@dildoswaggins2907

2 ай бұрын

Me too. Can also take devastator squads now as well. Serious fucking dakka

@user-op6wo9hx1s

2 ай бұрын

I love my repulsor executioner and I run two invictor tact warsuits and they actually slap hard in Ironstorm with my black Templars

@RPS679

2 ай бұрын

I hate rolling all the other guns just a load of nothing a lot of the time

@Johnnymarzo

2 ай бұрын

@@RPS679 I usually trigger the mercy strat and almost always have the lethals techmarine giving+1hit so all those little guns will give me 3-4 extra wounds thru on something

@Sonof_DRN2004

2 ай бұрын

Heavy lasers or Plasma, I usually use heavy laser destroyer despite always using the lethal hits Techmarine.

Invictor suits and vanguard vets seem very thematic for Raven guard.

@vfminiatures

2 ай бұрын

Oh yeah, they definitely are

Executioner is amazing. Run it as a heavy transport or a put bg (or sword brothers) in it and use them to defend it.

I run 3 repulsor executioners for ironstorm, the sustained hits strat is hilarious when you go from 2 shots to 4 😂

Outriders with the sons of Sanguinius detachment. 30 attacks at strength 7. Chaplain giving them +1..

@vfminiatures

2 ай бұрын

Actually, quite a cool idea!

@StorytellerCharm

2 ай бұрын

How have I never looked at these??

@deltacharlie1760

2 ай бұрын

Unfortunately you can’t advance charge so you end up wasting their ability. For the same cost you get 5 jump intercessors who perform the same role much more effectively. They’re a nice sidegrade if for some reason your opponent packs a million anti-air, tho.

Love that you called on the Repulsor Executioner! It’s an awesome chunky unit that shoots pretty hard while the only other choice I think that has much play is outriders which can be used as obj holder, fast 2ndary unit and as a wide ass screening unit!

I have a redemptor. And ohhhhhh, ohhhh the mortal wounds on a charge 😈😈😈

I run 2 x max size squad of outriders and an invitor in my stormlance detachment. The outriders just block up objects and chewing through 37 wounds with the ride hard ride fast strat take quite a while. The invictor is positioned aggressively and then use scout to either advance up board or pop in cover he’s a great early game shock unit

I use the Invictor in my Vanguard list. Works great. I have a Captain to redeploy if needed. Makes first turn charges easy so I always charge and tank shock.

The firestrike also works just as well if not better in firestorm as it gets assault on its guns so it can always advance and shoot. The invictor also gets some benefits in that detachment, assault on those guns and +1 Strength in 12 inches supports its goal of running in to pop a tank shock with that wild fist while letting it use that shooting the whole time.

@vfminiatures

2 ай бұрын

Good point, totally slipped my mind

I really want to try this in Ironstorm. 6 outriders and a chaplain on bike, he’ll have the enhancement to allow vehicles to advance and shoot. Move the outriders forward, advance vehicles as far as possible along with techmarines. Try and get some brilliant lines of sight.

@vfminiatures

2 ай бұрын

Interesting idea, but the shooting from Outriders is still pretty underwhelming imho, so it will be mostly for Vehicle support

@Sonof_DRN2004

2 ай бұрын

@@vfminiatures I’m willing to try anything at this point, I haven’t won against eldar and dark eldar in a while, they’re too manoeuvrable for me to handle because I play too cagey. Edit: I usually have to deal with those indirect cannons and war walkers so hopefully I can get them by at least turn 2.

I often run an executionner in casual play with firestorm detachment. With 3 Eradicator inside, the assault rule gives good mobility so you can hide from long range anti tank while covering no mans land objectives. And the burning vengeance mean that anything with enough power to threat your tank won't want to approach it

@scolack123

2 ай бұрын

The +1 S for the smaller guns is also very nice for rushing it up the board

Invictor is an awesome rear lines holder and the very best at tank shock.

The thing about scout moves is it is prebattle ability resolved after rolloff, so you can put in the open part of your dropzone, scout further if you win, or hide if you lose

@vfminiatures

2 ай бұрын

True, in that sense it’s better than infiltration

@AnalogBass

2 ай бұрын

@@vfminiatures Even better when you have both like scouts do

I actually suggest the fire strike turret in firestorm assault. Having assault Every turn Of the game is unimaginably powerful

The Firestrike can also be quickly move over the board in the Vanguard Spearhead Detachment using the "Guerilla Tactics" strategem to put it in strategic reserves at the end of the opponents turn.

@vfminiatures

2 ай бұрын

Unfortunately Guerrilla tactics works for infantry only

2 ай бұрын

@@vfminiatures Ah! Too bad, that would have been fun...

I run invictors in firestorm detachment with their incendium cannons.

Would you recommend VV or Interc. with Jump Packs for Shrike in Vanguard?

@vfminiatures

2 ай бұрын

Intercessors are a bit more useful in this case because you don’t really need pure durability of VVs, and can’t get the extra AP that VVs need even more than JP, that at least do MWs on the charge.

Invictors + eliminators in iron strom are actually weirdly good

Here is a funy way to use vanguard: play them as Blood angel in 1st compagny task force add a sanguinary priest with fear made manifest enhancement and Dante. Yes it cost 355 pts; but at your fight phase every unit within 6"range will be forced to make a battle shock test with -1 LD; and every one who failed this test will loose one model or D3 models once per battle. This not work on monster or vehicules, but it does on everything else including mounted units, or lone operative character. It should be an very effective combination against elite army like ork bully boys, or space wolf stormlance.

@vfminiatures

2 ай бұрын

Wow, that’s a cool combo!

What do you think about the turret being in the firestorm detachment. Getting assault on the weapons so we could advance

@vfminiatures

2 ай бұрын

Yes, definitely just as good as Gladius - my brain just decided to exclude Firestorm from detachments for a sec😂

@nicholasschian6651

2 ай бұрын

Don’t EVER sleep on FAF!! I’m a Salamanders player and love using all these off meta units and totally make them amazing! So many breakpoints for an effective +2 to W…which is infinitely more deadly than any other detachment.

@nicholasschian6651

2 ай бұрын

Outriders can just go 18” grenades and action/moveblock… Invictor can easily hit that 12”+1 S mark T1… while the bulk of your force is positioning. Repex with its 50’ish shots…all at +1S is really good too. Firestrike Servos moving way faster than 3” (two options….make fast stuff faster. Or slow things move more normally). Easy to set up good shots and lanes! Van Vets have the option to run 10x hand flamers for Immolation Protocols. All 5!!!! Easily made very serviceable!

You know i have a theory i believe that they are saving centurions and vv for upscaled firstborn kits or to be the next primaris conversions

@vfminiatures

2 ай бұрын

Interesting idea - could be

Your notes about the invictor are incorrect... you do your scout moves AFTER you know who is going first

@vfminiatures

2 ай бұрын

I know that Scout happens after we know who goes first😂 Did I say it otherwise in the vid? My bad, sometimes when I’m recording for a long time my tongue doesn’t want to obey anymore

@jamesloder8652

2 ай бұрын

@@vfminiatures yes, in the section about the Invictor, you said the scout move wasn't useful because you don't know if you're going first or not

@vfminiatures

2 ай бұрын

@jamesloder8652 gotcha, thx!

I love the firestrike turret. They make oddly hilarious strategic reaerve units. Also the invictor is the best source of tank shock since it's fist is S15 rather than the 12 of the other walkers.