would love a full course for Houdini from School of Motion!

@jippalippa

Жыл бұрын

After this video, it would be pretty dumb to not implement one.

@dantom6850

9 ай бұрын

Better to go to Rebelway. Muuuch cheaper and way better team behind it than SoM.

0:45 My work here. 'Houdini' for sure deserves all the credits:) But would be nice to give a proper credits to the creators, thanks!

@JesseKinnamon

2 ай бұрын

Amazing work!

Houdini is amazing. But it is absolutely the hardest 3D program to learn. I remember being insanely frustrated with attempting to follow along with tutorials only to get to a point where the name of node has changed or its functionality was merged into another node or... something. Making any tutorials on previous version nearly impossible to follow along with.

@raulestrada6866

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I liked the video but also agree with you that it’s one of the hardest perhaps next to professional CAD software.

@tempermode

Жыл бұрын

​@Cptdudebro There is a big difference though. The amount of tutorials available. Blender has countless tutorials. Houdini is fairly niche and finding tutorials on the latest version can be really difficult. I used to have multiple versions of Houdini installed just so I could follow the tutorials of each version.

@raulestrada6866

Жыл бұрын

@@tempermode there’s like 6 different ways of achieving the same result

@JesseKinnamon

2 ай бұрын

Houdini-course keeps all of their modules updated via re-recording for this reason.

I started learning houdini 5-6 months ago and before that I used cinema 4d. One thing I can say is that, take your time while learning houdini. Don't rush it. Also it would be really good if you learn VEX, because believe it or not VEX will definitely make the work easier and at some points it will open more pathways for new explorations. Learn the fundamentals before jumping into dynamics and simulations. Learn how proceduralism works properly.

@gc8972b

6 ай бұрын

any references to learn VEX?

@fadhil4008

3 ай бұрын

@@gc8972b I guess just follow some tutorials and try to understand everything in the most fundamental way. Like for example if the tutorial is showing you how to reference an attribute then put it to an if else statement, you just copied it and paste it to Chat GPT to understand what it actually does in the fundamental way. It's basically like learning any type of programming language in my opinion. Though I'm saying this, I am also still learning

It would be great if school of motion would make a course for houdini!

@FOZSYL

Жыл бұрын

I think to a lot of people houdini looks pretty scary. So I don't know if enough people will have the willpower to consistently learn throughout the course.

This man is a legend. He's also completely correct on all of these myths. You can do so much in Houdini after learning a very little amount of it. That consistency is such a strong point of the workflow.

I REALLY need to jump into Houdini since it links with Unreal so well 🤙🏿

@_m3atball

Жыл бұрын

same here!

I started in Maya a loooooong time ago. Then I went to C4D kicking and screaming, grew to love it. I've been dipping my toe in with Houdini and once you put in some time it's not nearly as intimidating as it first seems. It is a little mind blowing how much power they pack into the software. I wish School of Motion would have a Houdini course, there's so much information out there it would be nice to get a good foundational knowledge that every Houdini artist should be expected to have and also more advanced topics.

I'm a lead cg generalist. I worked with many fx artists and motion graphics artist, and literally all of them said: houdini is not easy to learn. This guy is the first one that says otherwise.

I agree on most points, however, Houdini might not be the hardest to learn, it does have the steepest learning curve. Most people that use maya (for ex) use it within one or two disciples; modeling, rigging and or animation and therefor the learning curve is capped at some point by the limitation of the DCC’s tools. Houdini on the other hand, is a different beast. Houdini artists are exposed to the very backend of the software and need to understand the fundamental basics of computer graphics if they want to properly manipulate geometry. (Example, I only cared about normals in Maya if the geo didn’t look right, in Houdini, Normals play a tremendous roll in how you manipulate your geo, cross and dot products, setting up velocities for sims…etc). it allows the user to have full control of every aspect of the procedural process. In most DCC’s, workflows are standardized, with Houdini that isn’t always the case since the logic can differ from person to person. It is that enormous flexibility that most people consider “difficult” about Houdini, which coincidentally is also what makes it so powerful.

As a Houdini artist and educator, I can't agree more with all the points Chris mentioned here. One of the first ways to get into Houdini is simply trying to shade, light and render assets from megascans or polyhaven. It's never easy doing water or fire simulation regardless of 3d package.

This program sounds so great I must learn it!

@MelloMograph

Жыл бұрын

Idk man with the node based workflow, character animation, procedural modeling, simulations, built-in Karma render, compositing, fantastic community, multitude of plugins and HDAs, and basically no barrier to entry, I’m not sure if I’m completely convinced yet.

Don't kid yourself guys. This shit is the "Dark Souls" of 3D software. Very hard but also very rewarding.

@KaarloMedia

Жыл бұрын

100% Dark Souls. For example, I couldn't grasp texturing in Houdini after three months of dabbling, whereas in Blender great textures were just a few tutorials away. The Houdini UI is like something out of Windows 95 or DOS. The tools are highly unintuitive and infinitely complex. Blender felt like a fresh ocean breeze after that one, and I'm a total beginner in 3D. Plus, don't even think about doing water or pyro simulations on a sub $5000 computer. I have a decent 12 core CPU and 2080ti but it took ages to create anything cool looking since iterating simulations is slow as shit. For reference, I've used all kinds of software professionally for advertising, animations, video, compositing etc. - After Effects, DaVinci Resolve, Fusion, Illustrator. Houdini was exciting at first - and then it cracked my nuts like an anvil.

@SmokeSkreenPrime

Жыл бұрын

I totally feel your pain. It took me years to finally feel comfy in H. I was a C4D guy and tried out H from H15. Took me till H18 to be comfortable in it as a generalist. I did it, but it hurt a lot for so long!

@Oldyellowbrick

Жыл бұрын

@@SmokeSkreenPrime c4d has the best user interface and workflow out of all the 3D apps which is awesome but it DOES make other software harder to learn if you’ve never touched any of the others.

@SmokeSkreenPrime

Жыл бұрын

@@Oldyellowbrick absolutely! C4D's interface and ease of use made it hard for me to adjust to Houdini. Funny thing is, now that I made the mental switch, I cannot go back to any other software. Once you start firing in Houdini, it's all cylinders!

@didioskywalker

Жыл бұрын

​@@SmokeSkreenPrime Almost same to me. I'm in love with houdini. But it is what it is. The initial learning curve os houdini is steep as hell.

Yes! Yes! Yes! Houdini course plz 🙏

Alright i was already curious but now i am going to finally start learning it. You did a great job of convincing.

I would love to see what course School of Motion releases with Houdini

I very excited with this Sofware, Thanks!

I have spent the last 2 years learning Houdini as a 3D student and found it extremely hard to learn at the beginning mainly because I went to watch and follow some cool simulation tutorials. It was a big mistakes that made me didn't understand the basics like how attributes work, attribute groups, geometry inspector graph etc...... It is def a software that takes ages to learn and pick up, the learning curve can be steeper than other software but once you the hang of it and don't give up easily. It is the MOST POWERFUL 3D software out there. Most major studios have changed or slowly changing their main pipeline workflow to Houdini from Maya and etc...... Highly recommend artists to learn Houdini at all levels. Thanks for the great video!

Extremely useful information, thankyou!

I’m looking to break into 3D animation and have been self teaching myself with cinema 4D and from the videos I’ve been watching on Houdini it seems so much easier and after watching this video I’m hella excited to jump into Houdini apprentice and indie.

Wow. Exactly the reason why I havnt picked up Houdini. It’s funny because I’ve learnt c4d on a deep level and love creating stuff with xpresso etc…I turn anything I can into a rig..So I’ve always thought Houdini would be very well suited for me, it’s just these myths create a barrier! Does the Houdini apprentice allow you to export to c4? I’m pretty sure they stopped you from doing that, at least when I last checked? Thanks for this great video, I think I really needed to hear this!

great video! thanks for demystifying this program:)

Thank you. its really amazing that how you explain what is vector could you please explain what is float, and other parameters too.

Definitely excited.

I think what we would like to see is a project fully setup than a breakdown of how easy it is and mor importantly how we can use it to intergrate it in with C4d. Example let’s just say you had a really simple scene of a fisherman sitting on a boat in the middle of the lake and the water is pretty still but a shark comes out of the water and bites the boat in half. How would we go about doing that either fully in Whodini or in Cinema 4D where the main set up is but then the important part like the boat, the shark in the area where the water interacts with the shark simulates. The reason I bring this up is because I think it be a lot easier to integrate Houdini in with other programs. We’re familiar with building in versus fully learning one program straight from scratch and doing everything there.

Love the Phrog plushie on the shelve

Yesssss more Houdini content please!!

I Started Learning Blender year ago and I got fascinated by 3d. And then I Discovered GeometryNodes short After i started learning blender. These nodes is amazing and I really like procedural workflows. About 2months ago I discovered that there are other program that Is 100% procedural and that was about Houdini. Started learning about 2 months ago. Many times I got frustrated (like in Blender year ago) but after every tutotial that I found on KZread Im getting more familiar with Houdini and kinda like it a lot. I hope that Houdini will become my friend like Blender and AfterEffects :D. Many things I still dont understand but this will come with time, and many things I already know cause I know how to build them in Blender with GeometryNodes - Logic behind some things are pretty the same, but using a different nodes

100%! So when is SoM going to offer a Houdini course??

Thanks for the info Christopher

Always wanted to learn Houdini after I heard someone at ILM talk about it - excited they have an apprentice version

I honestly believed all these myths lol, very interesing. I'll stick to blender for now, but it's good to update my knowledge, so thanks!

Amazing video, thank you a lot 🎉

so exited I just Start using and learn Houdini last week

I'm hooked!

Hey Chris, you have talent to explain. Maybe one day there will be houdini course from you. And hope this will not be interface tuts but rother something cool like A. Kramer did😉

Change can be scary. I always intimidated with programing in houdini. Common artist look houdini as scientific research rather than artist tool. Would definetly trying soon. Thank you🙌🙌

I don't know how you record your vocals, but the quality is impressive for not having it right in front of your face.

Wanna see your take on Blender.

Great explanation

So true. Great video.

I started learning Houdini and I have to say it is difficult to learn because I find it unforgiving. As a beginner, It is very difficult to troubleshoot. It is so much harder than blender to find solutions online. Even following great Entagma tutorials I sometimes get stuck. I'm going to learn it properly but I think you need to put some serious work into understanding Houdini so you can work out solutions yourself

I hope school of motion will be making Houdini tutorials

Looking forward with houdini!

Ok. So when is the Houdini Course opening at School of Motion?

Houdini is like learning to play the guitar. It's only 6 strings and a crap load of frets. When you start it's hard, but then over time things become easier. Then it becomes really hard to go back to any other 3d software. You will be happy you put in the time.

School of motion Please Bring some Osm courses on houdini not only for FX but for overall 3d work

When will School of Motion have a class on Houdini?

What kind of PC would I need to have for a beginner?

It's like cameras. It's much easier to get an "OK" shot with an iPhone than it is with a cinema camera, but almost impossible to get an exact, specific look that you fully control. For that, the "more complicated" cinema camera is far easier.

Couldn't agree more with this!

Many thanks GOAT

What about the computer specs requirements? that's a very demanding software I believe because of all the simulations...

That stuff is really good to know. I actually was assuming all of these myths to be true lol

100% agree

more info on houdini !

But with so much rapid change in technology like AI and so many softwares coming up with realtime simulations... is it worth putting so much time and effort in learning houdini?

@abramjessiah

Жыл бұрын

Maybe. Probably. Like most ai art apps, you still need basic fundimentally and technical knowledge.

In my view it is the hardest to learn, but not really hard. Getting in Vex is a little challenging. But I found Zbrush is a little more UI challenging.

Thats it I'm learning Houdini.

Chris rutledge!!

Houdini is amazing! Ive been using it as my main 3D app for about a year, and it feels very freeing. It's worth mentioning that it's not great for sculpting, texture painting, and a few other tasks.

so I was searhching for a Houdini course at School Of Motion website,... found nothing

I agree with everything.

The major problem oh Houdini is that it is so CPU dependant. Why we spend so much money for latest and greatest GPUs if its computing power not utilized properly? I'm waiting for the good times when the simulation calculations are made within seconds because otherwise it looks like a big scam kept by software developers and hardware manufacturers.

@Ab19647

Жыл бұрын

You need to check out Embergen

@petecoleman3443

Жыл бұрын

Axiom is a real time fluid solver for Houdini. I'm no expert, but I believe it uses the GPU.

@RyoMassaki

Жыл бұрын

@@petecoleman3443 Yes, it does and it is super fast. It can simulate 100 frames of a 400 million voxel explosion in 2 minutes. Also there are a ton of other simulation nodes that support OpenCL and run at least partially on the GPU and therefore fast. @silverhead is simply wrong. There is no other 3D program that utilizes computing power as efficiently as Houdini.

I think there is no definitive answer. It's all about how your mind works. In the 2D world, some people like Fusion (node based) better, and it find it easier and faster, while others prefer After Effects (layer and layer group based). I think it boils down to in what way you, as an individual, find visualizing find is the easiest way to conceptualize how to get to a wanted result through tools. Some approaches I think literally use different mental functions than others, to get to the same result, and which type of function is easiest for you is both a learned habit and just genetics. I for one love 3DS Max's Modifier Stack. Everything else seems clunky. But that's me (and others like me). It's not really "better" than something else.

i always love getting perpetual licenses ... i use it for hobbyist projects ... so im always like ... whats the point in learning a software i wont be able to afford ... 6k is alot!

Just like Blueprint in Unreal Engine, but those who have created any game in UE knows to work with Blueprint you know solid knowledge of coding as well, same goes for Houidni, If anyone wants to do mindblowing work, he/she/him/her/they/them has to go through some amazing skills of coding and 3d together

@makedonas6

Жыл бұрын

I disagree. There are a lot fo great houdini artists who did not have coding experience before hand. So it is not mandatory but can be helpful

@Huzzaifamughal

Жыл бұрын

@@makedonas6 nodes are visual coding

@makedonas6

Жыл бұрын

@@Huzzaifamughal my point still stands. You don't need to have a coding background to make mind blowing work, although it may help you to get familiar with the software.

@Huzzaifamughal

Жыл бұрын

@@makedonas6 i have coding sense I'm not from coding background, now a days everyone should know basic multiplications and new terms to get along with softwares

@makedonas6

Жыл бұрын

@@Huzzaifamughal that's true but you don't need to know the pythagorian theorem, vectors or matrices before hand because you will learn these concepts anyways

I dove in recently into Houdini specifically for simulations , and I have to admit it’s easier to learn than blender , and it seems logical and well thought through unlike maya

The one thing that Houdini lacks is great tutorial series for beginners. It's not an accident that blender donut is famous.

@isaacait.6679

11 ай бұрын

hipflask tutorials has broken houdini down perfectly

@hanheecho6437

11 ай бұрын

Rebelway

@isaacait.6679

11 ай бұрын

@@hanheecho6437 looks like that worked for you. He can try both.

Agree. Agree. Agree and... Agree... :)

I don't like vex. But seeing how crazy VOPs can get. I rather use vex 😂😅

I had to learn Houdini at university, I hated it and went back to Maya then moved to blender. Procedural 3d software is powerful but it's not how most artists work, imagine painting the Mona Lisa with a procedural technique...

afraid? yes, but thank you!

I don't rule out that houdini is hard to master because VEX programming is multiplied by proceduralism, while 3ds max is just direct modeling

i only agree on point 5, the others are not good at all, and some of them are funny the guy start with a claim and contradict himself at end(like the point on programming/math, you don't need to know programming but you still need it), it's sad people like a lie, than a uncomfortable truth, the best way to describe houdini is this: """ Houdini is nearly a flawless software, with a procedural paradigm that considered as the FUTURE for 3D and VFX now but the software had it in mind and bake in itself 20 years ago, it has a high barrier of entry, but when you look at it from the other side, you know your learning is as simple as it can get, considering the power you're accessing, VEX is as fast as the C Language you could even write C functions and access them on VEX + has parallelism at it's core, very fast has most of it's effects multi-threaded, and some even run on the GPU with OpenCL, Houdini is always first to integrate scientific paper related to VFX and the math applied to 3D, VDB are the perfect example of that, the company that make it are so ahead that you don't ask for features you just wait to see what's new, you sit back and you're mesmerized but what they done, Houdini 20 promise a lot of things the company said that they will rewrite a lot of the old logic on new bases, can't wait to see that, there is a presentation now on the new feather system coming to H20, the thinking is so far ahead """ In my opinion what made Houdini a dilemma, is the poor learning resources, now it's fine but 10 years ago a software was a blackbox, the software need hefty guides on it's inner workings, still to this day there is a lot of resources missing, let's take an example, if you go inside the popfluid node, you could find that just with the software flawless logic they implemented a fluid behaving particles, inside you could find the lego pieces that made it possible, the Enable Solver node, the Geometry SOP, OpenCL VEX, all put in some hard to crack logic that made it possible, i just can understand the general idea of it, but very far from reproducing something like that myself, only some Russian folks have some tutorials that skim those nodes in Houdini, some could argue it's too complex, i will say in fact that how houdini works if you want the real experience of it and be fluent, you need to know that there is exhaustive resources of the inner workings of it, that you could rely on any time, it's makes you confident implementing simple examples, they made the Houdini Sessions to solve party this problem, but it's far from what's it should be done, KineFX also is a great example very few people in the world, use it to it's full potential, i think it's a culture inside that company, they consider themselves as a niche, i hope they will share more knowledge in the future, also minor things Houdini should think of people that do classic modeling with easy to learn shortcut, they started to do stuff toward that goal(with the python UI curves tools), and finally the plugins, it's still the stone age, with the houdini.env i think it's time the software integrate simple installers that get's rid of all those annoyances.

When I first started in with Houdini, as it unfolded before me, I watched this mountain grow and grow and had that I'm sure quite common feeling of JEEZ.,. what have I gotten myself into? Then there was an afternoon when it clicked, and I say to you that the clouds opened, rays of sunshine fell on my face, and a chorus of angels sang hallelujah! And thus I was enlightened. You're wrong... Houdini isn't a program... it's a language! See, in a program, you can do what the programmer is allowing you to do, what he's programmed in. And that's why everything else is so frustrating for me to work with, like I'm wearing a straight-jacket. But Houdini... Many solutions to any problem, and no limits!

It's absolutely the hardest to learn, I don't know what you're taking about.

nah fam

Myth Number 3: you need to coding or math to use it. noo My friend you need coding and Math to make the software do what you want.

@myworldcg6399

Жыл бұрын

@@blendersarelikevegans Oh my gosh

I tried it many times, but bumped right into such steep learning curves that it completely ruined the fun I want to have while working with my creativity. That's the whole point for me. I want to see results, maybe not instantly (however, I would love to) but at least make some sence on drafts I created. I mean, I already have the picture in my head. I definitely don't want to overthink the entire scene. So all in all I think if you work in a team and there's one guy who speaks Houdini it would be helpful for finetuning and enhancing the whole scene, to make it all connected. But for me, it's a hard pass. (I want to give it one more try in the near future, but I don't count on it that I will be converted 😂

fear of getinto it? crash is more fear for some low pc . who wanna use powerful software.

Thanks for the video, but this has not helped in making me even want to think of attempting Houdini again. If you're a character artist or want to be a character artist, then forget about Houdini.

I move keyframes in a 30 year old software. I don't belong to this comment section 🤣

Yeah, not. Not convincing, not because you say it is not difficult and that you couldn't disagree more means that it's true. The power of words is a thing of beauty 😂

Houdini is the easiest software to uninstall in a few seconds.

I hate Houdini's UI, they should hire a bona fide UI designer. UI is a big deal to me for some reason, can't help it.

this video was generated by A.I?

Houdini way is the only way, once you go procedural you never go back. KZread kids can play with their blender, real men use Houdini only

@theslicefactor4590

9 ай бұрын

Now now, don't be elitist 🤣

@jothorunasmady2609

7 ай бұрын

Can’t wait to see a Houdini sculpt better than a Zbrush sculpt x)

he sounds like an ai