Moral of the story: if your girlfriend doesn't complain, she might be an undercover agent.

@edga7490

3 жыл бұрын

If you even have girlfriend, she might be an undercover agent. Or trans

@zorbaz3940

2 жыл бұрын

@@edga7490 hot

@TheRealGnomeChompski

2 жыл бұрын

@@zorbaz3940 hol up

@DoomedSpaceMarine123

2 жыл бұрын

@@edga7490 I would never ever want to date a trans woman. What if hers was twice longer than mine? I'm a jealous person, I could never live with that.

@Felipe_Castilho

2 жыл бұрын

If everything in her house is new she's a undercover agent

I love how shes a government agent and has no problem riding in a stolen car with a drunk driver

@rubenred9787

3 жыл бұрын

some undercovers do drugs

@bradlyfray1010

3 жыл бұрын

Under covers are typically allowed to stretch the law much farther than a normal officer

@jerz18

3 жыл бұрын

Great way to blow her cover if she did care about that

@jjvc3888

3 жыл бұрын

Or riding Niko

@talp2976

3 жыл бұрын

Drunk+roofied driv3r

I never thought the day would come where Roman would get bored of bowling loll

@LittleDemxn

3 жыл бұрын

“Kissing cousins”

@patriot17764th

3 жыл бұрын

Ik right??

@IanRB26

3 жыл бұрын

*Well well well, how the turntables...*

@jockeyfield1954

3 жыл бұрын

it's funny, because while i was playing gta 4, i never got a call from roman about bowling, it got me so annoyed that i just called him to go bowling because i wanted to bowl with him basically, i pulled off a thanos "fine... i'll do it myself"

@MrDmoney156

3 жыл бұрын

@@LittleDemxn Sailor Moon reference?

They kissed, slept together, went bowling together, went dining together. It's understandable why Niko was upset and hurt, they were really a cute couple.

@Handsome_253_steel

3 жыл бұрын

I prefer kate

@SavertonJr

3 жыл бұрын

What probably made Niko upset was that he was betrayed by someone he considered a girlfriend. Hes sensitive to betray cause it ruined him

@bluesyrupgc4224

3 жыл бұрын

@@SavertonJr yeah, and she was one of the first person he is close to in Liberty City, probably the first one if you don’t count Roman and his future wife.

@chriswakefield9538

3 жыл бұрын

Cringe

@Abyssus93

3 жыл бұрын

its Nikos fault for being a SIMP

The fact that he takes the time to go through each possible theory, with research and evidence to back it up; it's truly... professional.

@bbrandumbb

3 жыл бұрын

Kinda dislike how long these videos are though

@Paul_TV22

3 жыл бұрын

@@bbrandumbb that's why they are so good, long and interesting

@robtz759

3 жыл бұрын

@@Paul_TV22 You would rather listen to MrBoss for 10 minutes about fake rumors GTA 6 coming tomorrow?

@shadowviper5160

3 жыл бұрын

@@robtz759 what are you talking about he never said that or anything to imply it

@R30STV

3 жыл бұрын

@@bbrandumbb I rather it be long I enjoy it🤷🏽‍♂️

I’d also like to point out that Michelle’s personal car is the Declasse Merit, the civilian version of the Police Patrol, possibly alluding to the fact that she’s affiliated with law enforcement.

@noahlester5993

3 жыл бұрын

You mean 2002 chevy impala

@jamesonjones6952

3 жыл бұрын

@@noahlester5993 no he means the déclassé merit

@bini2851

3 жыл бұрын

Doesn’t prove anything

@TristenTheArgonian

3 жыл бұрын

@@bini2851 undercover law enforcement may use unmarked cruisers

@bini2851

3 жыл бұрын

@@TristenTheArgonian what for lmao

The "bugged clothing" theory is great, wearing the same clothing all the time would also make you easy to immediately identify in public!

@brentenjs550

3 жыл бұрын

Or she just wants to be very easygoing and not make Niko become uninterested?

@natesofamous3236

3 жыл бұрын

@@brentenjs550 🧢

@SpectreAce5

3 жыл бұрын

@@brentenjs550 if you buy clothes from Modo she will not hesitate to criticize your clothing

@reda29100

3 жыл бұрын

I beg to differ. I don't think clothing is a topic worth of attention on of itself. Rather, because it's the most apparent thing to be noticed. If you take the big picture, she might not be interested in his outfit per se, tho the mic theory is still plausible. *I'm just a random viewer btw. Haven't play any GTA game, almost. So when I say I haven't played the game, what I'm saying is I'm not qualified to deem the theory invalid. Maybe, the game does have minor details that give credence to the mic theory.* People have their guards. On a 3-month relationship, who would you think be most likely you would loosen your guard, i.e., open up about your life and gradually your secrets. Is it the picky, slightly nudge-y and on your nerves? Or the cool, accepting, too friendly person? Being too friendly is a red flag in any situation, dating or customer-type, especially if developed in a quick short term.

@decalice4272

Жыл бұрын

It's creepy how she says "I'm a good listener"

You forgot one hidden sign, if you get drunk with Michelle and drive a car while Michelle is with you the police will not chase you. This doesn't happen with the other friends and girlfriends only with Michelle cause she is an undercover government agent. I actually noticed this at my very first play through and got suspicious. I was like "How come with Roman I get the police if I drive while drunk but with Michelle I can pass by the cops while driving in a drunken state without them chasing me?" And then I found out she was an undercover agent and it all made sense.

@roddydykes7053

2 жыл бұрын

Very astute observation, I bet not many made the same prediction from that fact. For me the reveal wasn’t overly surprising, she just seemed like an oddly stuffy character to be into Niko

@thestrong2401

2 жыл бұрын

@@roddydykes7053 partly I thought maybe it was a gameplay feature done to not make her scared and not make you lose progresses with her while she hangs out with you, but I was suspicious cause some of the conversations with her are weird and also she never gets drunk with Niko and Niko questions why and she never answers. There's also a dialogue where Niko asks her what's the point of all her questions about his job and she doesn't answer.

@bulletploofgrass

Жыл бұрын

Whoa, I have never made this observation ever.

@averagechadlegionary5824

Жыл бұрын

She’s also sober if I’m not mistaken possibly for two reasons. One is to not get drunk and foolishly reveal her cover and two is probably BC she’s technically on duty so she’s not allowed to drink.

@LMBECIL

11 ай бұрын

🤯🤯🤯

It kinda sucks how the government thinks they’re the heroes and hire criminals like Niko, Micheal, Franklin, Trevor and the GTAO player to do their dirty work and clean up their messes

@benemery1644

3 жыл бұрын

They're an evil, incompetent criminal gang masquerading as only thing preventing society from breaking down while in reality causing most of the problems in it, just like in real life.

@micahhill4786

3 жыл бұрын

Government always have and always will be the greatest enemy.

@dhadnot4356

3 жыл бұрын

Gta 4 cops are the only cops to be the size of a whale

@gabee7268

3 жыл бұрын

The government is the biggest gang in every and all countries

@drewinsur7321

3 жыл бұрын

if yall break it down, goverment is just a more sophisticated aristocracy of a tribe, humans will aways be tribalistic in nature. a nation or warband makes no difference, just diferent scales.

Kind of hypocritical of them to complain about Niko wearing the same clothes given they have the same attire at all times. Also, reason 6: If you "try your luck" with Michelle, you hear her yell out "tell me interesting things!"

@MariusBoss11458

3 жыл бұрын

I was about to comment about "I see that you never "Tried your luck" before" but saw this one instead. That's also a good one.

@PhotriusPyrelus

3 жыл бұрын

Doesn't she also have a line about tell me your secrets, or is my memory conflating things @_@

@PlaystationSimmer

2 жыл бұрын

@@PhotriusPyrelus I know that when you go in for coffee with Michelle, she moans 'Oh Niko, tell me more!' 😂

@KayRellz

2 жыл бұрын

And the way she yells your full name lmao. When she started asking was Roman involved with some bad people, I'm like " how/why she would ask that? She gotta be a nark lol " Mallorie dont seem like a woman who would run her mouth about roman situations, hence why she was messing around with Vlad, trying to protect him.

@AgentOrange626

2 жыл бұрын

Yup! Waited the whole video for this one. Glad you pointed it out.

When you have "Coffee" with her, she will say something like "Tell me more!" so I think the house she was in was monitored

@sasukeuchiha123.

3 жыл бұрын

I didnt notice that Dababy less go

@justsomerandomdude5766

3 жыл бұрын

LESSS GOOOOOO!!!!!

Given Rockstar'e propensity for having integral characters betray the main protagonist at plot-centric points, I'm just glad they decided to NOT have Jacob be a turncoat in this game. I don't think I could take it if ma bredren flipped on me..

@dividebyzero6722

2 жыл бұрын

Him and Dwayne Forge

@violaterberuda6935

Жыл бұрын

Lml just imagine “Bombaclot, me ah hope fi not come to this bredren😢” 😂

I love how in 4 she is nice and sweet and in 5 she is mean and aggressive. It's the opposite of both games.It's hard to find gta lore videos besides professional. I did not know that Roman does not go bowling all the time.

@frankbacon1002

3 жыл бұрын

She prolly just reached a higher rank over time in the agency and got cocky lmao

@xXxKAMIKAZExXx

3 жыл бұрын

The whole Roman loves bowling thing is just a meme. Apparently his canon favourite activity is darts. It’s just been repeated so much.

@justinwinn01

3 жыл бұрын

@@frankbacon1002 i believe thats exactly what happened

@matepusztai5713

3 жыл бұрын

I think we can see her real personality in Gta V. In Gta IV she just hided her agressive side. Or maybe she was just a beginner at 2008(it makes sense because her cover was so weak, she didn't know how to hide herself well). And by 2013 she get stressed and pissed off because of the bad things she had to do in order to be successfull in this kind of job, that's why se became more agressive.

@frankbacon1002

3 жыл бұрын

@@matepusztai5713 Exactly, again she just got cocky as she advanced in the agency and likely in her skillset. I mean she went from collecting intel on small time immigrant criminals to literally torturing people for intel lol

If you actually "try your luck" with Michelle you'll get to that generic camera angle that shows only the outside of the house, but Michelle keeps telling Niko to speak louder while they are having sex, to me that was the biggest tell that her house was actually under monitering / wired. SUS as fuck

@brick4522

2 жыл бұрын

This makes a lot of sense.

@gaysiegelord

2 жыл бұрын

Please never use the word sus again

@matheuspereira5565

2 жыл бұрын

@@gaysiegelord I mean, english is not my mother tongue so my vocabulary is pretty poor, so i just didn't know what to say

@thebadwolf3088

2 жыл бұрын

@@gaysiegelord sussy

@gaysiegelord

2 жыл бұрын

@@thebadwolf3088 go back to among us.

I honestly thought she was just weird. Never thought that she was working for the government and didn’t think of any much of it…

@TheFloodFourm

3 жыл бұрын

10 y.o. me was just happy to be in a relationship

@dwaynejpeterkin

3 жыл бұрын

Always knew from the beginning I mean her house looked too new

@JD_The_Menace

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah dude when me and my sister played GTA IV, for the first time we thought she was a thief because on their first date on her apartment the couch and furniture was new and had tags on it and she always avoided telling niko her job and always asked about him & roman and crime & drugs as was mentioned by our guy Mr. Professional. That's me and my sister's theory we thought she was a thief well it was actually the exact opposite 😂

@MidnightIX

3 жыл бұрын

@@JD_The_Menace haha that’s cool. I played this with my sister as well 😂 time goes by fast

@JD_The_Menace

3 жыл бұрын

@@MidnightIX I know dude, thosw were the good ol days

To be honest, Michelle actually helped niko because without her niko would have never known who Paper was, so he would have never found darkov because paper found darkov for niko.

@jameswarren6047

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t think that’s true, ULP could of gotten someone else to check on Niko but he just used a female to manipulate his feelings more. ULP has a high position in the IAA and had been keeping his eye on Niko ever since he stepped foot in Liberty City.

@theprofessional155

3 жыл бұрын

Niko would have been arrested though . Remember that U.L paper covered up a lot of his crimes . The police had a massive file on him .

@mohandcruze4914

3 жыл бұрын

@@theprofessional155 Thats true.

@mohandcruze4914

3 жыл бұрын

@@jameswarren6047 That is true, I guess I was thinking differently. 😂

@hybridAbsol

3 жыл бұрын

Niko aint afraid to take down the system actually

These early signs actually shows how much detailed GTA IV's storyline is... Rockstar just nailed on everything in the story, even such small stuffs. They makes us wonder "Whoa! How could I miss that?", "What? I could have figured it out!" and other stuffs when we play the story more for the second time.

@ayoitsyayo

2 жыл бұрын

Sums up all rockstar games

What's funny is Niko can "have coffee" with Michelle early in the game. Guess she'll do anything for her job, lol.

@AllEyezOnDeRozan

3 жыл бұрын

And she will yell "Tell me more" or "Tell me interesting things" when you "Have coffee" with her which at first I thought she wanted to know how it was in the war or sum then I found out that she was an undercover cop/agent

@edwardthibodeaux8815

2 жыл бұрын

@@AllEyezOnDeRozan yeah I though it was some weird fetish but I just makes to much sense now

When people talk about how Karen was nicer and gta 4 and now more meaner and more aggressive in 5. I kinda agree with them. Most of them forget that Karen actually got to know Niko. She showed feelings toward him and actually seems to liked him or at least have some respect for him. While in GTAO, she has no affiliation to the player or background information. Their just hired guns to her. But yes to be honest she is more of a husk than what she was before

@theKeshaWarrior

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, Karen acts exactly the way you would expect a veteran government agent to act while in an important interrogation or while in front of four well known criminals she doesn't know. Especially after the FIB crashed the code meeting. She acts just like Stabler does in SVU towards people who he knows vs people he doesn't. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@sagekindred6106

3 жыл бұрын

You could attribute it to character development. It's not unlikely she would grow more confident and brash as she climbs the ranks in law enforcement

@mrowley7300

3 жыл бұрын

I like to think that she regrets messing with Niko and that's why she ends up more meaner

@chaotikalz

2 жыл бұрын

niko broke her.

@AudraBurgess

2 жыл бұрын

I think she had some genuine feelings towards Niko too. When he called her a fucking bitch you can see the shock and hurt in her eyes. You could also hear the regret in her voice when she reveals herself.

1:28 I cannot believe even Karen understands Jacob's language

@hasogon

3 жыл бұрын

I mean he's speaking English so yeah

@itsdokko2990

3 жыл бұрын

@@hasogon a VERY jamaican english

@hasogon

3 жыл бұрын

@@itsdokko2990 it might be because I have a lot of jamaicans in my family so I don't count it as different.

@itsdokko2990

3 жыл бұрын

@@hasogon i get it bro me, who is not a native english speaker, took me a long time to decode what was jacob speaking :p Cool tho, i like Jamaican culture in general and it's people :D

@justinwinn01

3 жыл бұрын

Patois

Anyone else pause it and laugh when professionals head fit perfectly on Michelle’s body at the start? Hahaha

@cloutmessthebeaner

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@user-dw6wf5kg2e

3 жыл бұрын

What is professionals head ?

@Sakonetatar1

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-dw6wf5kg2e the guy who is commenting, in the upper left corner

TBH given Niko‘s experiences in the past, it seems unrealistic for him not to pick up on these clear red flags

@MIKE2111ful

2 жыл бұрын

I think since niko is not a native English speaker and is from another country he probably just thought to himself " oh i guess this is just how American women act" also if you were in his position would you really think that there is government agents spying on you only a few days after you got off the boat? I sure as hell wouldn't

@roddydykes7053

2 жыл бұрын

@@MIKE2111ful I agree with both points lol, Niko probably should’ve been suspicious, but it was a woman working against him this time, not a junky army buddy

@futurestoryteller

2 жыл бұрын

As I said in my previous comment. They were honestly pretty ridiculous. He'd have to assume both that Americans have some pretty warped legal procedure and probably that Karen is really bad at her job.

@ThrowAway-wf2sz

Жыл бұрын

Well with the drink spiking he does - he just throws it out because he's drunk He grows to actually care for her and that leads him to let his guard down even when he notices things

@herobrinecyberdemon8104

10 ай бұрын

@@roddydykes7053 Like everyone in LC isn't a creep. Even Karen admitted it later. Niko has a whole lot of problems happening nonstop to be able to notice everything.

Also....whenever you go into her apartment for “coffee” Michelle tells Niko to talk louder and to tell her stories. Her apartment is bugged, Michelle doesn’t want her handlers to hear her cheeks getting clapped but she also wants Niko to slip and say something.

It's ironic that Niko is more subtle about being a criminal than Karen about being an IAA informant/agent.

I like the fact that everything in GTA 4 history is sad and realistic even the grey filter; besides GTA 5 everything is to make a joke

@hybridAbsol

3 жыл бұрын

Rockstar was fucked up since 2010

@danwordgod2017

3 жыл бұрын

@@hybridAbsol Why 2010 lmao? That year they even gave us RDR1, GTA V was made in 2013.

@hybridAbsol

3 жыл бұрын

@@danwordgod2017 ohh sorry, RD is alright but recent updates was weird

@threat9231

3 жыл бұрын

@@hybridAbsol what?

@anonymuzz99

2 жыл бұрын

Gta 4 physics, aesthetic, story were all better than GTA5. gta 4 just had the perfect vibe for a game like gta

LIES! I would never refuse to go bowling with my cousin!

@cloutmessthebeaner

3 жыл бұрын

That’s some profile picture

@tristenoxenreider6244

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah that profile picture is amazing 🤣

@tristenoxenreider6244

3 жыл бұрын

@@cloutmessthebeaner facts 🤣

@jerronpickensjr3025

2 жыл бұрын

Roman how you doing

@strahinjastevic7480

2 жыл бұрын

That phonecall was a deepfake

I really love how Niko never talks. She never gets Niko to talk about stuff, he always says "I don't know about that" or something. And even not saying anything, he still didn't knew that she was a cop.

@herobrinecyberdemon8104

10 ай бұрын

Remember Niko was hiding his doings from his mother. She was far closer than Michelle to him.

my #1 tip off that she was an undercover cop was her car. Michelle's (Karen's) Merit is the exact same car, (though it be the 'unmarked' stripped out civilian verison) as the LCPD "Police Patrol" car. the vehicle choice was just too coincidental... the vehicle was probably given to her by the police or the IAA or whathave you.

@itsnitro8761

6 ай бұрын

The npcs driving merits: 💀

26:24 "nobody saw this coming a girlfriend was gonna betray you" Catalina: Am I a joke to you!?

@osamahussein5702

3 жыл бұрын

But Catalina and CJ never liked each other anyway

@bobbyserrano3872

3 жыл бұрын

@@osamahussein5702 no I meant in the beginning of gta 3 where she almost killed Claude

@osamahussein5702

3 жыл бұрын

@@bobbyserrano3872 ah my bad, but I mean Catalina used both cj and Claude from the start

@bobbyserrano3872

3 жыл бұрын

@@osamahussein5702 exactly

@partyelixir1265

2 жыл бұрын

@@bobbyserrano3872 well did we really know Catalina that much in GTA 3

When Michelle said "I like things clean",it kinda reminds me the same line that Big Smoke said in Reuniting The Families mission in GTA San Andreas when he went through the car wash🤣

There was one time when I wore the same clothes and Michelle said "what's wrong with you"

I still believe, even after all that Karen did, she really liked Niko, and she probably saved Niko from getting into a big trouble like prison time

@smokey7127

Жыл бұрын

I partially agree, she sounded genuinely sorry during the reveal

Niko's drunk walk looks so funny

@AllEyezOnDeRozan

3 жыл бұрын

He looks like Pennywise when he walks tbh

@christopherpacker1637

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr

Even if they got some warm coffee she moans 'tell me interesting things' or 'more, tell me more' 🤣🤣🤣

3 жыл бұрын

Ohhh now I get the joke 🤣 Hahaha damn all these years wondering what she meant

@emekaasiegbu3697

3 жыл бұрын

Then Niko screams out his body count of people he's killed when he busts🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@IanRB26

3 жыл бұрын

She must be really dedicated to her job if she puts out just to get information on somebody lol

@Sakonetatar1

3 жыл бұрын

She also says to speak louder, maybe her house had mics in it

Michelle/Karen was one terrible undercover agent. I'm surprised how gullible Niko was lol

@matepusztai5713

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah Michelle/Karen definitely wouldn't be able to deceive a serious gangster. I'm wondering how Niko didn't get suspicious, because he seems to be a sharp minded guy anyway.

@AndreRQL

3 жыл бұрын

@@matepusztai5713 Precisely bro! He came from the army, he escaped almost certain death countless times due to his bravery and intelligence. He's been stabbed in the back countless times, been in jail back in Europe, knows the criminal life well, and yet can't spot when Karen is misleading him, even through she literally throws these signs *verbally* in his face. That's a part of the Niko-Michelle plot I'll never really understand

@WakanaGojoAE86

3 жыл бұрын

@@AndreRQL maybe because Niko didn't wanted to think that way anymore. That's one of the reasons why he moved to Liberty in the first place and I know that he was also looking for that someone special but I think Niko was mostly trying to move on from that criminal/war life of his.

@Dododeath

3 жыл бұрын

@@matepusztai5713 he horny

@rjthehoodlum1914

3 жыл бұрын

Hes nrw to the country yall give him a break

I love how Niko physically cant walk cuz of how drunk he is then proceeds to speak without messing up a single word

@DogeickBateman

Жыл бұрын

Balkan magic

@LoverOfManyArts

Жыл бұрын

Lol

I knew there was something wrong with her, but expecting her to work for a government didn't came to my head , I though she work for Dimitri ( that was my mind back then , she was just confusing me )

@MrRAGE-md5rj

3 жыл бұрын

You confused "nothing wrong" with "something wrong." Just saying!

@martol7169

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrRAGE-md5rj hey thx for that , I really need to check my writing and plus phone is a nightmare to type

Number 1 should really be Michelle's loud "conversations" while Niko is enjoying, uh, hot coffee at her place. "OH! OH! THAT'S GREAT- YOU'RE GREAT, NIKO BELLIC! TELL ME MORE! TELL ME INTERESTING THINGS!!!" My headcanon has Niko playing dumb and pretending to be surprised and upset by the big "reveal" after the Snowstorm mission. For a guy who practically had to swim through dozens of corpses he created to collect Elizabeta's coke just minutes earlier, he seemed pretty chill having just "learned" Michelle was a government agent. Its obvious Karen got made the moment he entered her apartment before their first date. Luckily for her, after getting off the boat he was desperate for some company and was happy to waste her time. Remember that Niko was always careful never to mention anything incriminating about himself or others, in stark contrast to his dates with Kate. As a bonus, she also happened to have a surplus of clean furniture to sleep on. The alternative was to share the only bed with Roman (and cockroaches) in his filthy apartment. Besides, Karen is so inept at her spycraft, it's actually kind of adorable. Can you really blame him?

@DigiAkuma

2 жыл бұрын

I LOVE YOU NI-KO BEL-LIC That sounded so fake, like a bad reading read aloud. Honestly I wasn't surprised at the big reveal

@pato6738

2 жыл бұрын

Remember Niko is a war veteran and a criminal with a conscience, so having someone to trust (even if he didn´t really tell her stuff) is a big thing so perhaps he still wanted to believe she was just a silly curious person. I mean even Niko´s real Love-meet profile say he want someone to trust

@JRC99

10 ай бұрын

​@@DigiAkumaKaren in general was like that. That very first "Mallorie! Stop it!" always sounded super fake to me.

I think Niko had a suspicion about her as well. Notice how every time she would try and incriminate Niko through his affiliations, he always deflected her passive-aggressive statements by not self-incriminating himself.

@herobrinecyberdemon8104

10 ай бұрын

Niko is hiding his doings from his mother.

There's also the fact she says "You can talk to me about it, I'm a great listener" after something bad happens, for example, when Niko's apartment and Roman's depot gets burned down.

I kinda liked Michelle, i think she's cute when we take her intentions aside.

@captaindowntown7851

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. She didn't end up getting Niko locked up.

@Eggsecuter

3 жыл бұрын

I thought the same back when I got the game as a kid. I liked Michelle lol

@briangriffin1402

3 жыл бұрын

Even though she was a fed, kinda did Niko a favor. She was a big part how Niko ended up settling in the city. She may be a bitch but she actually cared about Niko. She's miles better than Kate and that creep Kiki

@grapefruitjuice9473

3 жыл бұрын

@@BigMouthPrick exactly

@joooanit0224

3 жыл бұрын

@@briangriffin1402 Kate was nice

The clothing listening device makes sense, I never even thought about that. Also if you take her bowling again she'll comment about how mobsters use bowling alley background noise to cover up conversations about crime.

The first hint I got during my first playthrough of the game was that during a date with Niko, she asks him where she can get some cocaine from, adding that it's 'for her cousin.' Knowing the twist after my initial playthrough makes me glad that Niko wasn't dumb enough to divulge any information - even if he had believed her.

When I was 7 and I played this game I was yay my first girlfriend. My heart was broken when she showed her true colors.

@endeflector320

3 жыл бұрын

What were you doing playing gta 4 at 7 years old lmao

@bartman247cc2

3 жыл бұрын

@@endeflector320 A lot of people were playing this game at a young age. My first gta was gta sa and I was 5

@endeflector320

3 жыл бұрын

@@bartman247cc2 alright thats fair

@trevorphillips3402

3 жыл бұрын

@@endeflector320 lol i played gta vc when i was 5

@juanma0205

3 жыл бұрын

I played gta iv for the first time when i was 7 too, but i never did missions i remember i putted some random point in bohan and i always went there because i thought it was a mission

I somehow fell for it because of her almost completely obvious nature of asking, which I thought it's intentional for her characterisation, considering the satirical elements of the Grand Theft Auto series. GTA IV weaponised that particular knowledge and broke that rule by having her *actually* did what she implied, thus screwing the players over. It's surprisingly effective.

@---pp7tq

2 жыл бұрын

Nah. The game was just to serious to treat it as the joke from the very beginning.

Thats why i love R*! At first you wont realize these things but if you replay the game you think like „Ahhhh i could have known this before“

When someone is asking a lot of questions and then they catch on to what you are doing you can tell that they are an undercover cop or government agent.

What is so strange for me is the fact that Michelle has started dating with Niko, when Niko was a nobody and at that time he didn't do any serious crime in Liberty City. At least he haven't done anything serious, that would make the government begin to have an interest about him. Plus Michelle must had a friendly relationship with Mallorie and Roman even before Niko's arrival... So, the government agency started to watching Niko even before he sailed to the U.S(because he worked for Bulgarin, who is a very dangerous international crime boss) or what is the explanation that Michelle appeared in that early part of the story? Or it is just a plot hole/development oversight?

@stax223

3 жыл бұрын

Niko and Roman had been mailing letters back and forth and they were probably watching Bulgarians activities overseas as UL paper is IAA (GTAs CIA) so those letters were probably intercepted and they knew Niko was coming and thus planted Michelle into Roman and mallories life. Also Roman was connected to the Russian mob due to his ties to Vladimir, and the Russian mob was becoming a problem, So Roman was probably under a bit of surveillance too.

@c0mmentator

2 жыл бұрын

My theory is that she dated him at first to spy on Mallorie because Mallorie is friend with her (Michelle/Karen) real target, Elizabeta Torres. But as time goes on, seeing Niko working with a lot of criminal and seeing how effective he was, she contact the ULP and tell them that they can use Niko to do their dirty work

@CIavis

Жыл бұрын

@@c0mmentator You just blew my fucking mind because that makes so much sense

@herobrinecyberdemon8104

10 ай бұрын

No, the plot is deeper - they wanted to use Niko to infiltrate the troublesome criminal underground. They kept their mouths shut when he was doing their dirty work without realizing, don't forget the part with Paper taking him to meet with one of the largest crime lords in LC - the government and the mob have a wide connection in the West in real life. Most of the crime reality in GTA series is based on real life. GTA III and Liberty City stories will get way creepier this way.

"Even Roman doesn't want to go bowling all the time" Truly a top 10 anime betrayals moment Also, good job on giving the outro background music a fade-in.

I suspected Michelle was someone suspicious, simply because the game's forcing me to interact with her, despite her being completely normal and mundane. That said, I originally thought she was an undercover cop, not a government spook.

@futurestoryteller

2 жыл бұрын

What crime did you think she was investigating? Roman putting in-facing toilet paper rolls on the spools?

@drank__4077

Жыл бұрын

@@futurestoryteller maybe Niko being in the country illegally

@futurestoryteller

Жыл бұрын

@@drank__4077 ICE doesn't really do undercover ops, from what I can tell. Maybe if she was asking him how he got in the country it would make sense. Like I said in my standalone comment, my brother said the same thing, but on the face of it, it doesn't really make any sense. You're literally right off the boat when you're introduced to her, you haven't even really had time to commit many crimes. But all of a sudden this one person takes an interest in _you_ and _your_ criminal lifestyle, like you're some kind of bigshot who has connections. My brother really emphasized the new things in her apartment as the really obvious retro-active proof, and I thought "That's dumb, why would you buy new crap for your decoy house anyway?" Recently I saw a review where this guy said "Don't poor shame me" because the game makes you buy new clothes to "impress Michelle" - so yeah, it actually would have made more sense if she was actually a clean freak, rather than a law enforcement agent. Then again she's not a law enforcement agent

This is actually showing how sloppy the government is with their work even in real life

@chizurumizuhara6136

2 жыл бұрын

They need to change how their agents act...

I already knew she was a government agent the first time I played it because it's kind of obvious. "So does Roman get into trouble alot, is he involved in any criminal stuff?" Along with all of the other hints, I immediately got suspicions about her.

It's actually weird that Elizabeth the drug dealer don't have protection to help her

@warchiefvenomn7612

2 жыл бұрын

She did have but they turned on her. She says that in the last mission, the one where she kills Manny.

On the first playthrough I kind of had a feeling something was off about her. When she appeared in the mission ‘The Snowstorm’, I was like:” I knew it.” On my second playthrough I realised that the car you drive her to the carnival with on the first date, is the same car model as the police cars. An unmarked police car, undercover. This only made it more obvious, since the unmarked, normal version of the car is really rare to see.

@Shadowwind4

6 ай бұрын

Damn bro nice catch

All this went over my head. Props to niko on not dry snitching on himself and being suspicious.

18:45 - but Michelle will also comment positively on different clothes... I believe this is just her liking everything Niko does to get closer to him and get more info 24:30 - is also a possible reference to Niko being able to sell drugs (a cut side mission/activity)

@Chiraqtown1

2 жыл бұрын

The gta 4 goat can u mane lore videos 🤔

@corvettec4977

Жыл бұрын

Hey, whatever :D

Niko has the most hilarious drunk voice ever 🤣

@markmagician2471

Жыл бұрын

When hailing a taxi "Yellow car!"

Is it me or does anybody love the professionals lore videos?

@gavinhoughton2575

3 жыл бұрын

Yea

@shaihani_pro

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, he really does have a point

I hope in gta 6 you can have relationships again that was low key kinda fun

@thekangaroo1880

3 жыл бұрын

@Midgeon Mac well damn

@thekangaroo1880

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it was cool

@rayh6118

3 жыл бұрын

@Midgeon Mac getalife*

@DD_T06

2 жыл бұрын

@Midgeon Mac Coming from a person who wasted there time on commenting something 😂

@NenUserD8xedYou

2 жыл бұрын

@Midgeon Mac nope you get one

It always seemed to me like Niko felt that Michelle was untrustworthy, but didn't think far enough to realize how dangerous talking to her really was.

It’s crazy how obviously sus she was but it flew over everyone’s head, now imagine actual undercover agents

I find it funny that the first time I played IV after the first date I just went "Ha, she is weird... she is undercover cop or something" jokingly... but planted the seed of doubt on myself

In that first encounter, she doesn't just lie and deflect - she makes a denial ("no, it's not new") and then later edits her story when it doesn't hold water ("when things get dirty, I throw them away and buy new ones"). Classic sign of lying

Michele was the impostor. 0 impostors remaining

@neiljohncerbas9531

3 жыл бұрын

Amogus

@grapefruitjuice9473

3 жыл бұрын

Really original

@hybridAbsol

3 жыл бұрын

Mallorie: Emergency Meet now ! *press red button*

@christopherpacker1637

3 жыл бұрын

Sus

@nameeeee7637

2 жыл бұрын

haahahahahaha

Michelle has a personal car in the first mission you are required to use, and it's way too convenient that it's an unmarked grey Declasse Merit, the same sedan the police use.

The main one for me is for your first date when you dont pick her up to help roman. She automatically ask without you even detailing the situation . It was something like “what happend, are you involved with some bad people?” Hmm thats a weird thing to say.

I loved these details! Makes me want to play the game and pay close attention to the story. Usually, when I play games I find it hard to concentrate on the story, and tend to get bored and skip cutscenes to get to the action. Thanks for the video!

You should play the first saints row game

@SavageBunnyGetMoney

3 жыл бұрын

Signs that Troy was a cop 😹

@micahhill4786

3 жыл бұрын

@@SavageBunnyGetMoney damn Troy what’s with all the questions? 🤣

@SelectDevotee68

3 жыл бұрын

@@SavageBunnyGetMoney don’t spoil it for TheProfessional.

@jmoney7289

3 жыл бұрын

Dude those were the golden years

@temmywemmy8544

3 жыл бұрын

Y’all really told him to play saints row but instantly spoiled what I’m guessing is a big part

One of the signs that should've been more obvious to me was how often she would ask about the "interesting people" Niko's met. And how often she jumps to illegal activities, unprovoked, whenever Niko is vague about really anything.

All of y’all forgot about something. If you go to tw@ while early in the game or early when you’re still dating Michelle or during the time her and Niko are still in contact, if you go lovemeet, you’ll see a post for someone that says “UndercoverLover”. Every time on my playthrough I would notice that when Michelle is out of the picture, that ad disappears. It’s up the whole time she’s in the storyline, but then when there’s no more contact, it’s gone. It’s a very small detail since I’m assuming no one caught it but it’s also a way to find out she’s a government agent.

If Phil Bell was a close ally to Niko right in the beginning of the game, he would have sure made Niko more prepared of rats and spies. Phil would have known Michelle is an undercover agent right away and have warned Niko on the side. In fact, he would have told Niko stories about feds infiltrating criminal organizations.

Hey Professional, I wanted to ask if you can please do a Lore Video on Niko's past prior to Liberty City (ie. Smuggling, the war etc.) as it is one of the aspects of GTA IV that still puzzles me to this day; I understand a bit but not how it all ties together. I love your videos - keep up the good work!!

@theprofessional155

3 жыл бұрын

I will do one on this when I beat the game

@ridwaankaranie5089

3 жыл бұрын

@@theprofessional155, awesome sauce. Thanks for the swift reply to my comment.

At 5:10 when he said take a look at this I got a ad of two girls in sweats and bras eating Carolina reaper peppers. What has KZread come too

@---pp7tq

2 жыл бұрын

I think KZreadrs can set places where ads can be shown.

Dude, I played this when I was 9 years old, now I'm 20, seeing things about GTA IV after so many years feels so different and I didn't noticed these subtle things when I first played it as a kid

I was shocked when Michelle Showed her true colors and basically was spying on me

@robtz759

3 жыл бұрын

Me too, and she sucked at making herself inconspicuous and just like Pro said, she was being way too friendly, never complaining about the same places or even what Niko does something bad to her. I remember when I accidentally wrecked her car on the first date and she asked Niko literally if he's involved with criminals in Hove Beach. I mean, who asks something like this on their first date and especially to someone who is new to the city?

@badreedinedjellali1328

3 жыл бұрын

you right it's really odd and she's to organized but I don't blame Niko for dating her because she seemed like a nice person and she's not and I noticed that she get a little bit creeped out when Niko approached her

@robtz759

3 жыл бұрын

@@badreedinedjellali1328 And I think that she actually loved Niko because she looked upset when she revealed herself. No wonder she ended so brutal and angry like in GTA V

@badreedinedjellali1328

3 жыл бұрын

nah I don't think she dose honestly I think she don't really care about anyone and only use people like in gta 5 when she tourterd the poor man that was the real Michelle

@Dannyo7o7

3 жыл бұрын

Burgershot!

Point 3: Michelle can get drunk if you go with her 2 times at the same bar/place.

I remember aging GTA4 with a friend next door. Knew something about her was off.

Ngl, after watching this, everything makes sense

Michelle: My name is Karen and I'm just use Michelle as my fake name and I works with Government Me: *"IT'S DOESN'T MATTER WHAT'S YOUR NAME IS AND WHAT YOU DO"*

@KyleGD

2 жыл бұрын

OH OH WAIT!! OH MY GOD, HE HIT THE ROCK BOTTOM ON KAREN!!! BY GAWD, BY GAWD!!!! -Jim ross

When I first played _Grand Theft Auto 4_ , I thought Michelle (Karen) was an undercover cop at the most; I never really thought of her as a fed. Then again, since _GTA: San Andreas_ , the gangster antihero protagonist crossing paths (and lines) with federal agents for better or worse has become inevitable. Great video.

@rayvenkman2087

3 жыл бұрын

LCS, VCS and TBOGT don’t really have you crossing paths with the feds.

@Loader2K1

3 жыл бұрын

@@rayvenkman2087: Well, those _GTA3_ prequels and _GTA4_ spinoffs withstanding, I meant.

Honestly, I suspected her from the beginning. The actress did a great job, because the character just radiates fed vibes.

Awesome, love the fact you make these types of videos, and if you read her character closely you can tell there's something up with her, even Niko himself can sense it as well, 'You're a strange girl Michelle!' This adds to the brillance that is GTA 4

19:51 The alternative universe when Niko is annoying Roman to go bowling.

i was shocked at this betrayal scene on my first playthrough of gta 4...

michelle: secretly working for the government to get info on niko niko: still hit tho

I don't know why exactly, but I still shipping Niko and Michelle/Karen. Probably because despite that Karen lied to Niko since the beginning, being an IAA/CIA agent in order to spy his illegal actions in the story, she ended up having some authentic feelings for Niko. She even had some regrets in her face and voice tone, when she ask Niko for the coke. Because if it wasn't the case, Karen would probably threat Niko and Jacob with a gun to obtaine the coke, if Karen really didn't had feelings with Niko. Also I still believe that Karen helped Niko to get rid of most of his charges against him, for the crimes that he commited in Liberty City and even during the Bosnian war. And if Kate is officially death, I don't see the rest of Niko's girlfriends as a definitive ship for Niko like Kate or even Karen, unless that Alejandra (the girl from the cafe Internet) or even Ilyena (Faustin's wife) ended up as new alternative girlfriends for Niko after the events of GTA IV. But honestly, as much I want it to believe that Karen compensated Niko somehow, after lied to him, being a couple again but now in secret, away from the IAA's eyes, I know that wasn't officially the case thanks to GTA V. Karen was still loyal with the IAA, turning herself into a more rudeless agent, while she was torturing Mr. K with a flashlight.

@TheArchiveRecords

2 жыл бұрын

or just dont ship niko with anyone because, he doesnt really have feelings for people. Yes, he gets along with kate and karen but i wouldn’t tell he has so many expressions or feelings for people he “dated”. People dont actually need partners to complete their lifes, so thats how i see niko…

@herobrinecyberdemon8104

10 ай бұрын

The government used Niko - Karen didn't help dropping the charges, he indeed betrayed him. As Niko showed he can get things done they saved him from the cops to use him when they needed someone with his skills. Shame on Karen, yes - he is ruining herself as a human and didn't think much on it, but the real villains are the government using people like this, as they are in fact larger criminals than most of the mobster Niko met. If Paper taking you to meet one of the greatest mob bosses in LC wasn't telling something.

What's funny to me is how in the background gameplay, he's crashing cars and shit with Michelle/Karen in the car and she doesnt say anything.

3:50 Michelle flinches when Niko approaches her, maybe because she was briefed of Niko’s dangerous past.

I played the story over and picked up on these signs immediately

GTA IV is an amazing game, thanks for making videos on this

jacob really went through everything with Niko, a true friend and one of the only people who knows what he has truly been through firsthand

I like the way you break everything down and do a thorough analysis on each topic. Your vids are awesome.

It's Big Smoke all over again & I like rock* for it.

@junaidunar9148

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but Big Smoke was not spying on CJ. He was just being himself

@refugio9512

3 жыл бұрын

@@junaidunar9148 it more the betrayal than spying.

I love these kind of videos. The foreshadowing in this game was great.

There's a tiny detail in the scene in her appartement that most probably missed. She asks where Niko wants to take her. When Niko answers he steps a bit closer and gestures with his hands in a way that looks kind of like he's reaching for her. She backs away a little. She knows that Niko can be dangerous, so she might have felt threatened. This also explains the awkward pause before she answers.

She reminds me of Nina Myers from 24, which who is also an agent as well.

@themastermind3173

3 жыл бұрын

shes based on that character I think

Michelle sees a sewer drain: “WOW, seems like the kind of place to have child hungry clowns doesn’t it.”

Considering how perceptive Niko is, I'm surprised he never figured it out. Especially since she makes it super suspicious

These lore videos are incredibly good content. Keep up the good work!

I guess you excluded the hot coffee. "Yes Niko. More, tell me more interesting things"