G'day everyone. I made an error with the Himalayan USA pricing, it is $5449, my bad. Also, USA pricing does not include taxes or registration so keep that in mind!

No DR 650 ! I’ve loved mine since 08 I’ve owned over 50 bikes , it’s my choice for best all arounder . Riding since 1971 .

@onthebackwheel

Жыл бұрын

Good bikes for sure. They are stopping selling them (everywhere bar the USA) was one of the main reasons i didn't put them in

thought you was michael bisping for a moment there. great video btw

@onthebackwheel

Жыл бұрын

He's English!

@guggaaa1947

10 ай бұрын

Hahaha

I think DR650, XR650L, and KLR are the best of the bunch. I would still hold off on CF Moto…Was offered ridiculously low price by a local dealer, but still I wouldn’t pick it up (it was almost half off). The unicorn on this industry is XR650R with larger fuel tank.

As owner of both the CRF300 Rally and the CFMOTO 800MT I can 100% confirm both of these are excellent value for money. As the big fella said, the CRF needs suspension work (YSS kit for a firmer spring in the front does the job - I lashed out for a new rear shock as well) and some Barkbusters, replacement bars, new tyres (once ready to replace OEM) and B&B protection, and is my dirt orientated light adventure bike. And it doesn't disappoint. The CFMOTO is the more two up road tourer with all the comfort farkles that will also perform well on dirt and forest roads. Doesn't really need anything else to do the thing on this bike, apart from a new set of shoes once the OEM ones need replacement (Pirelli Scorpion STRs are next in line). Curtis mate, I can't even tell you how happy I am to see the KLR get a guernsey in this list!

@onthebackwheel

Жыл бұрын

Great comment and info mate. And yep, had to give the KLR its dues. I'm seriously considering the CRF for my next bike, I'll see where I'm at when the time comes

Amazing work! 👏

@onthebackwheel

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I agree with every choice on this list Curtis.

@onthebackwheel

Жыл бұрын

Good to hear I'm not completely full of shit

Nailed it. The CFMOTO 800 MT is very good value. Was very close to buying one. They even come with hard cases on the runout models (2022).

@onthebackwheel

Жыл бұрын

Looks like they are throwing in the cases again

The Beneli and the CFMoto are my favourites. Best bang for your buck and they look really good.

@onthebackwheel

10 күн бұрын

They are doing a great job. Good to have competition

@orwellianyoutube8978

9 күн бұрын

@@onthebackwheel The consumer wins, I hope they both sell like crazy and don't fall for the obvious anti-china bias. Other brands need to be put on notice for their crazy prices on entry level bikes with zero options add ons.

Great video! I'm a little surprised you did mention the 800MT's little brother, the CF Moto Adventure 650.

@onthebackwheel

Жыл бұрын

Cheers. It's more of a tourer to me

I choose the CFm Moto!! Thanks for sharing!

@onthebackwheel

7 ай бұрын

It's definitely a good bike, enjoy!

I've got a 300 Rally, only issue is you need to be high in the rev range. Roll off the throttle and roll back on and you need to drop a gear. Very forgiving though. A little more power (150cc's) and it would be perfect. Good choices by the way mate. I was looking at the CFMoto. It looks like a great value bike.

@onthebackwheel

Жыл бұрын

Crf400 would be amazing, will never happen though 😢

I wish we had more dealer options in my area. I’d love to check out the Benelli adv. These are great bikes. I’ve always wanted to try the crf rally, but I feel like my 235lbs (107 kg) would hold the bike back, which is why I went with the DR650

@onthebackwheel

Жыл бұрын

She'd be sluggish that's for sure!

My 2020 KTM 390 Adventure was a great budget bike. With proper tires (Bridgestone AX-41) this bike is very capable off-road in spite of the 19" frt/17" rear and relatively low ground clearance. At $7200CAD in Oct. 2020 it is definitely a budget bike. I added a few mods (ergonomics, high fender, luggage) for just under $1000. If I would have kept it I would have added the BDCW skid plate. Overall a great bike!

@onthebackwheel

Жыл бұрын

This was one of the bikes I thought would be mentioned. All the owners seem REALLY happy with it

@PA96704

11 ай бұрын

Its ugly though

A shout out for the KLR- the Gen 3 is great value, alll day comfortable and super capable. ( although I can’t make it do what Curtis can do with his 🤣

@onthebackwheel

Жыл бұрын

Got to love the KLR!

@solastro5595

Жыл бұрын

Which version do you think is best the; adventure, the S or the regular?

@onthebackwheel

Жыл бұрын

@@solastro5595 the base model for sure

Currently 2000km around India on an Himalayan scram 411. So far so good. It’s raw and basic but just does the job. You would never know it’s only 411cc. I’m carrying panniers and an extra 20kg bag strapped on. It just keeps going. Less bells and whistles on the bike the better. I mean I only have a Speedo and that’s it

@onthebackwheel

7 ай бұрын

Nice mate, can't beat simplicity. The new Himalayan looks good too

@Bloggingidiot

7 ай бұрын

@@onthebackwheel Seen a few on the roads here. They look so much better than the photos.

I'm thinking of a 800mt as an all roads tourer but being in west Oz we don't have many dealer's . I hope that changes.

@onthebackwheel

Жыл бұрын

🤞

Thoughts on Honda's NC750X? The current model is $9400 with ABS and Honda's DCT, and can be kitted out with LOADS of storage thanks to the trunk. Fits solidly into the "dirt roads and campsites" brand of ADV riding.

@onthebackwheel

Жыл бұрын

Never personally ridden one but owners are very happy. It would be fine on basic dirt roads and gravel, but very road biased and not what I'd call a true adv bike

Sure hope you can get your hands on a Moto Morini X-Cape 650 for a long term review. While its 19" front/ 17" rear isn't ADV spec, I'd love to see how capable it is as a potential first bike, ADV budget bike. Cheers.

@onthebackwheel

Жыл бұрын

I don't believe they are selling them in Aus 😢

@tomtom8552

Жыл бұрын

@@onthebackwheel Shame, maybe someday soon you'll get the opportunity.Looking foward to it.

Love my Himalayan, so stable, good gas mileage, easy to ride, and so cheap. The upgrades are pretty cheap too and now all in stock. I would have liked to get a 300 rally but i just can't find them for a decent price.

@onthebackwheel

Жыл бұрын

Seems like you aren't alone in struggling to get a CRF

@nl6049

10 ай бұрын

Is it really that slow bike? I see a lot of comments saying it a slow bike. Can you keep up the speed on highways?

@graymangw6016

10 ай бұрын

@@nl6049 Yeah but depends on what you mean by slow. It gets up well enough for city traffic and unmodified it can hold 60 just fine. It will be less for steep hills but just plan your route. I have really enjoyed my Himalayan as my first bike and I have become a much better rider because of it. I think a lot of people me including want a forever bike as a first bike and that should not really be the idea. Get something you are comfortable practicing the basics on. The Himalayan is also a great try it all bike because it can go on the twisties, out exploring the back roads and do some light off road to start. Now if you really want to do off road I really recommend going with a lighter dual sport, TW200, xt250, crf250/300, klx300.

I've been researching bikes for years trying to get away from my gen 1 KLR, and nothing compares. It's so much lighter than the new one and just keeps chugging. I'm on my 2nd one, 95k and counting with a new piston and rings. Rode a buddy's 690 and the suspension was amazing, but no wind protection and terrible seat for longer trips. KLR is king.

@onthebackwheel

9 ай бұрын

Gen 1 is hard to beat

I'm coming from a 4wd background but am looking to get my motorbike license to potentially replace my car as im sure a bike will still be able to take me the same places my car does. What are your thoughts on the Suzuki vstrom 250sx? From everything I've seen, this bike looks like it would be the best pick for riding at 100 kph as the more off road focused bikes either only have 5 gears or aren't ideal for doing those long distance rides as comfortably. Ive owned a dirt bike in the past but that was honestly years ago so im sure I'll be limited offroad by my skill level and not the bike, but do you think this could be a bike you could learn on and keep forever like i hear some people talk about the cbr300l? That would be my pick but i think to ride that daily would be too much of a compromise if it would mainly be used on the road Like i said earlier, im still trying to learn and am happy to take your advice on board. Thanks for an in depth video, much appreciated

@onthebackwheel

5 ай бұрын

G'day Josh. The V Strom is much more street leaning. No doubt it could do some basic off road work but it has very limited suspension travel. It is more of a street bike that can go on gravel or dirt roads as part of a trip. If that's you're after, great! You certainly won't have it forever if you want to get more adventurous. The Versys X 300 is a slightly more off road option, then you've got the KTM 390 and then CRF 300 rally

@JoshSinnott97

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the reply mate, I just finished watching your video about why you bought the 800 so I appreciate there being no brand bias in your recommendation. The versys was on my list too, like the idea of it having a slightly bigger fuel tank and looks to be the 1:1 competitor to the sx. I've looked intuitive the other bikes you recommend but wasn't sure if another bike would suit the freeway. I'm in WA so sometimes I need to drive forever to go camping so being comfortable at 100 will take priority over offroadability, although I'd like to learn to push it off road and keep up with 4wds. Maybe I'm looking for a unicorn aha. Thanks for the reply anyway, I appreciate. I'll definitely look more into your recommendations

@onthebackwheel

5 ай бұрын

@@JoshSinnott97 haha yep, makes it tricky. From what you are saying, the Suzuki might not be enough for you. The CRF rally will cruise along at 100, it certainly isn't quick though

@JoshSinnott97

5 ай бұрын

I think it's about time I booked myself some motorbike lessons aha. Once I'm riding and get my license I can start test riding them and I'll hopefully know what suits me best. I did hear that the ktm 390 will be getting a new model soon so hopefully there's some new options on the market by the time I'm ready to pull the trigger 🤞

@onthebackwheel

5 ай бұрын

@@JoshSinnott97 have a look at the CF Moto 450mt. It's a little heavier but could be what you are after

Really, really hope that one day they bring the klr to Europe

@onthebackwheel

10 ай бұрын

Don't think it's going to happen sadly

I got the KLR because impossible to have a CRF rally. Happy with it but heavy. Himalayan is 5499 $ in US matte.

@onthebackwheel

Жыл бұрын

Thought it was too expensive, I'll put a note. Why is it impossible to have a CRF?

@FrancoisTX1974

Жыл бұрын

@@onthebackwheel nobody has one available. You cannot place an order, dealers don’t know when they receive one and of course sale it to the one who’s ready to pay 30-49% above MSRP…a KLR was way cheaper. One dealer offered me a CRF300 not rally 2022 at 8600$ …MSRP is 5300$…

@onthebackwheel

Жыл бұрын

@@FrancoisTX1974 that's ridiculous. In saying that, I've never seen one in stock here either

Go the mighty 800MT 🍺

@onthebackwheel

Жыл бұрын

Thought you'd like that one

@theOutbackBerean

Жыл бұрын

I can’t wait to get up there 🍺

If I was going the long way round on a budget it would be on a KLR 650.

@onthebackwheel

3 ай бұрын

Solid option for sure

New Suzuki v-strom 800de is coming out this year too.

@onthebackwheel

Жыл бұрын

Keen to check them out when they are released

Here's an extra comment for Al Gore's Rhythm.

@onthebackwheel

Жыл бұрын

Love ya work

V85tt guzzi?

@onthebackwheel

Жыл бұрын

Doesn't fall into the budget category at $22k, but on my list to ride for sure

@middlehot

Жыл бұрын

@@onthebackwheel i paid 15k with all 3 alu box very good with shaft

@onthebackwheel

Жыл бұрын

@@middlehot great buy. Was that AUD?

@middlehot

Жыл бұрын

@@onthebackwheel in canada qc

why didn't you pick the tenere?

@onthebackwheel

5 ай бұрын

It's not budget here in Australia, over 20k now

@Spandex08

5 ай бұрын

@@onthebackwheel then you should have named your video the top 5 budget adv bikes of 2023 in australia. australia being a country thats about 3% of the population of europe or 10% of the population of usa, i think you should mention that you are taking such a limiting criteria when making this list

@onthebackwheel

5 ай бұрын

@@Spandex08 first up, I'm Australian, it's not a limiting list at all and even based off the overseas prices I wouldn't consider the Tenere budget. It's on the cheaper side for sure, but not budget

@Spandex08

5 ай бұрын

@@onthebackwheel then wouldn't it make more sense to pick the voge 300 rally instead of the honda rally in the lightweight section ?

@onthebackwheel

5 ай бұрын

@@Spandex08 its a bit cheaper, but still unproven. There are just so many parts out there for the CRF too

Suzuki Vatrom 650XT

@onthebackwheel

5 ай бұрын

Good bike!

When a bike has the same motor like a KTM then I think it couldn't be reliable.

@onthebackwheel

7 ай бұрын

They certainly don't have the best reputation

Micheal Bisping look a like funny

@onthebackwheel

6 ай бұрын

I'll pay that

KLR=top heavy

@onthebackwheel

7 ай бұрын

I didn't find that. It's heavy overall, I wouldn't say top heavy though

2022/2023 Honda CB500X - a better bike than a KLR 650, for not much more $

@onthebackwheel

Жыл бұрын

More of a tourer, but I know people who do more road work swear by it

stay away from the KLR 650 its a lawn mower on two wheels.

@onthebackwheel

7 ай бұрын

They are pretty agricultural. Reliable as a hammer though

Cb500x😢

@onthebackwheel

5 ай бұрын

Good bike, but a little too road biased IMO

7 grand aint cheap

@onthebackwheel

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately it is in the bike world now days

Definitely wouldn’t consider anything Chinese.

@onthebackwheel

2 ай бұрын

Fair enough mate, I get it