Someone should make triangle panels to fit all of the area on the roof.

Trina Solar is giving good feedbacks and really good performance, I swapped 430W solar panels and added their 655W panels in the same space as the old ones with the same price per watt I paid 4 years ago, I am having extra 200W ish more with less space and they are bifacials!

30 south facing roof mounted QTron 420 black sitting on a black standing seam metal roof. Mounted with Unirac system. Looks gorgeous! Paired with Enphase IQ8-A microinvertors. Day 4 of operation-nothing to report but vibes.

Great channel long time watcher first time posting very informative.

Maxeon warranty also includes labor, they also have great looking all black panels.

System installed in early Feb. PTO Feb 28. 34 REC 405AA. So far so good. System has out-performed the contractor's estimate by a considerable margin in March and April. For May, I'm still trending above his estimate, despite weather having been less than wonderful. I think the discrepancy between actual and estimate lies in the shading issues, which aren't as bad as the contractor's model predicted (and he even did a drone scan).

Maxeon at #4 is wild I imagine that if Maxeon started giving you their panels at a competitive lower PPW, it'd be higher on the list!!

@SolarSurge

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely. The only reason it’s ranked lower is because of the high price tag. The technology is excellent.

@SolarPlainTalk

2 ай бұрын

@@SolarSurge but that’s relative then, don’t you think? I understand that you may be saying “top 5” from your frame of reference but if we’re thinking about top 5 for the consumer itself, Maxeon deserves to be top 2.

@solarcannonballrun

2 ай бұрын

@@SolarSurge I am a big fan of SunPower, Just wish they were more cost competitive, I used 64 of their flexible panels and they held up very well.

Great information!

Great presentation

M-G2+ Owner here---- the panels beat the crap out of everything on the market.

Nice video Thank you! What panels do you recommend for DIY?

I'm in New Zealand and got the Qcell Q.tron BLK M-G2 panels (M-G2.4+ 425w made in China), had them installed in February. Have 20 panels roof mounted in 2 strings, 10 facing NE and 10 facing NW (remember Southern hemisphere), connected to a 6kW Fronius GEN24 inverter. I'm impressed how easily the 8.5kW of panels reaches the 6kW inverter capacity, it reaches it by mid morning on a fine day and even with a layer of high cloud it still easily gets there.....I probably should have installed a larger inverter but I'm export limited to 5kW and with the panels on 2 different facing strings, I thought I wouldn't get that much clipping. It's only now, a month from the shortest day, that it barely gets to 6kW. Ironically, if there are a few clouds around to add a diffuse light source, it still reaches 6kW, and I live at 45 degrees South.

@QE007

2 ай бұрын

You gonna get a battery?

@Pete856

2 ай бұрын

@@QE007 I might in the future. Being AC coupled, the Tesla powerwall 2 seem like a good option, but the price is hard to justify as it will never pay for itself. With the Fronius inverter, it has a seperate circuit to supply electricity during an outage, so it doesn't require a grid forming battery system to work.

@QE007

2 ай бұрын

@@Pete856 that’s a cool feature other companies should learn

@degeneral2583

2 ай бұрын

Hi, pls I wanna know how you get the panels from china? I’m trying to reach out and buy some I will appreciate any help you can provide. Thank you

@Pete856

2 ай бұрын

@@degeneral2583 I probably can't be of much help as the panels were sourced by a local installer. My understanding is Qcells makes panels in a few countries, including China. They then ship them to distribution centers, so it really depends on where you live as to which panels are locally available.

Jinko 425W is pretty good and all black. 1 percent degradation loss in the first year, then .4 every year after

Thanks!

Why don’t panel manufacturers make quarter or half size panels to better fill in your roof even if you had to join them together?

@QE007

2 ай бұрын

It could be because panels manufacturing hits economy of scale at a certain size

@KB3M

2 ай бұрын

@@QE007 Yes but many would gladly pay extra to add another 10-20% to their roof.

@mthomaslauer

2 ай бұрын

@@KB3M , I empathize, because I have had many clients whose smaller roof planes would have accommodated smaller panels but not the larger form factor found in most 400-watt series panels. But making smaller panels would make the panels much more than just 10-20% overall, because both manufacturing and shipping costs would rise. It would cause an increase in larger panel pricing, too, if the manufacturer has to re-tool to make both small and large form factor production runs. Installation costs would also rise as installers must deal with more panels to mount in more and varied locations/patterns. It is all about economies of scale, and most roofs can still host the 400-watt size module.

Where can you buy REC panels?

I have the Q CELLS Q.PEAK DUO BLK ML-G10+ 400 . They look and perform great. I am very happy with them

@SolarSurge

2 ай бұрын

Those are good panels also. Very popular and a great overall value.

My number one concern is impact resistance by such as hail, then efficiency in heat, slow degrade, and last is over 20% efficiency. Does anyone know a list to compare specs, price?

I’ll be getting the silfab 420 bg elite I’ll give you feedback in a few months

@AK2CO

2 ай бұрын

Just had the 410s installed this week - outstanding value. Wished i would have gotten the bigger microinverters though but the 8+'s will be fine. They clip out at about 285W...

@bravoman80

2 ай бұрын

Nice to know , I went with the IQ8-M I’ll see where they clip out at by end of June. I’ve seen here in so cal you get about 315watts with M’s with the 410bg panels

@josephlupia590

2 ай бұрын

Love my silfab 410s

I have Renogy 450 Watt 48 panels with 38 panels of Aptos 370 Watt panels from the original installer. Making more power to pay the minimum power cost.

@SolarSurge

2 ай бұрын

Sounds good. Aptos is a good band also, but the efficiency is not as high. IF you have a large roof then it's not an issue.

i need help for 11kw solar financing and best advice for getting solar in california

24 VSUN 370 Black. 63kwh on cool sunny days

JA Solar, 405's Great price and they look and work great!

What about the Aptos 440?

@QE007

2 ай бұрын

My parents have those, they used to be top 5

Just got 37 REC 410AA's for $0.30/watt.

LG 330 all black

Does anyone know of an installer in the Toronto area that installs REC or similar panels?

@AfnanHossen

2 ай бұрын

yes

Joe, Well done. If I may ask, why do you prioritize more storage than more panels?

@tomunderwood4283

2 ай бұрын

He said buy lower cost per watt panels and spend the savings on more storage.

How about bifacial?

What if I want a ground mount is this list still the same?

@SolarSurge

2 ай бұрын

I would just go with the Jinko for a ground mount system. It’ll give you the best overall value.

Thanks

Love you know your thoughts on Aiko?

@SolarSurge

2 ай бұрын

I don't have any experience with that brand.

Why didn’t you compare Silfab 420 elite panel? Higher wattage and efficiency.

QCELLS - Made in the USA? Or assembled in the USA? There is a difference is there not?

If ur doing solar on ur roof get ur roof reshingled first or id prob get a steel roof Once panels r on new roof prices explode

Never seen these names in Tier One listing... just Jinko & Maxeon?

No longi?

Good presentation, thanks. However, "Bad sound makes good video look bad." In a room with hard surfaces and bad acoustics please get the microphone as close to your mouth as possible. Get a headset microphone and position the element at the corner of your mouth.

Where is Meyer Burger?

Put in 10Kw of Maxeon panels through Renova in SoCal, on a SantaFe style flat roof, so you don't see them. Waiting for battery prices to come down. Maxeon have super durable impact resistant cells.

Brother you are living at last century…. Now the best is longi bc technology.

Tesla? No…?

outdated ...AIKO IS FAR BETTER ....

Thank God for China!

If you are willing to do the "warranty and service risk on your won"??? WTF??? This is pure insanity! Why would anyone be looking for a good, cheap, low price solar panel??? To DIY??? I mean, what is wrong with this guy! He should be saying, no, no, don't you EVER be looking for something like this. And don't you EVER think of a DIY. Not ever!

Not giving a price is dumb and makes the video not worth watching past the the first 2m37s

@mthomaslauer

2 ай бұрын

Seriously? Prices vary by job scope and location. You can be sure that a DIY supplier in South Dakota will quote a lower cost per panel than an full service solar contractor in California's San Francisco Bay Area.

@danmccoy6164

2 ай бұрын

Yep I just bought 30 390watt black anodized Canadian Solar panels for $112 apiece delivered to my garage.

@NujwOayk

2 ай бұрын

@@mthomaslauer The general price of the panel does not vary much.

@johnfitbyfaithnet

2 ай бұрын

Give us a link to your video with the prices please.......