Very on point! Dear Lexus! Better listen up! 3 row, should be optional on every trim. Locker and E-KDSS should be available on most trims, like how the Toyota "TRD Off-Road" package is much better than the "TRD Pro" trim, in many ways -- because sometimes, you just want the essential locker, and not want to pay a premium for a suspension you're going to swap out anyways. Locker, E-KDSS, and 3rd row are essential features!

@Tehilliym

Жыл бұрын

An option for 3rd row would be great. I personally can’t stand, and never use, the 3rd row in my 4runner limited & lexus LX.. chews up quite a bit of space.

@masejames4906

Жыл бұрын

I personally like the power folding 3rd row in the current gen while still off-roading. I’m not rock crawling but certainly on unpaved roads daily. I would be disappointed if they didn’t offer a power fold 3rd row on all the trims.

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

Жыл бұрын

Specifically the 3rd row should be a dealer option so dealers can order rear seats at will and have a tech pop them in whenever a customer requests a 3rd row seat... ie at market demand 🫴

@Phi.D.888

Жыл бұрын

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD just like the previous 4runner, even though it is useless, it there

@JohnJohnCrusher

Жыл бұрын

The stored 3rd row takes up a chunk of room on the floor of the cargo in the 460. Anyone know if eliminating it in the 550 creates more space? I haven't seen pics of the back of a 550 with seats folded down

I prefer NOT having the 3rd row.

@MrTeslaX

Жыл бұрын

I prefer the option of 3rd row!!

@johntanchong3166

Жыл бұрын

I want the option to have a 3rd row that I could use when I need it.

@vindiesel2638

Жыл бұрын

@@johntanchong3166 exactly. It should be optional.

@993mike

11 ай бұрын

I agree - it just raises the cargo floor height, and adds unnecessary curb weight

@vindiesel2638

11 ай бұрын

@@993mike And how will that battery react when subjected to water while off reading.

Bought my GX for its reliability, capability in adverse conditions (I live on the side of a mountain where people routinely cant get to my road in the winter, and routinely drive unmaintained roads), capability to tow a small trailer, and 3rd row for kids and hauling people. Also used GXs in my area are cheaper and in better condition than 4runners selling for more then new msrp. Hopefully I wont have to look at another vehicle anytime soon with only 80k miles on mine. Maybe in 10 years, we will see. My wife does a lot more commuting for her job, and we dont travel in her vehicle so any vehicle for her just needs to be capable of getting up and down the mountain and have decent gas mileage, with 20k+ mileage a year, that makes a big difference. Since I don't commute for my job so the gas mileage on the GX doesn't bother me, with my previous car being a subaru GT wagon with similar gas mileage specs and premium requirements. Plus on long trips the GX still gets 22/23 MPG so not bad at all.

Yup - I have kids, and I was excited to get this, but without the 3rd row, it is a dealbreaker.

@JoeHan268

10 ай бұрын

It doesn't want my money. 😂

Yea the 3rd seat a deal breaker, I don’t use it all the time in our GX but when we do need it, we are extremely happy that we do have it available.

Compromise: Make 3rd row optional across all GX models.

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

Жыл бұрын

yes! 😃 Specifically make it a dealer option so dealers just have to order the seats and have a tech install them on whatever trims they desire...

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

Жыл бұрын

me too most of the times.. which is why I hit a button and the 3rd row folds completely flat with PLENTY of room and flat enough to put a bed on. Fold-flat 3rd row=the most sane comprise for most reasonable adults.

I know you probably is very busy with your life. But I've watched a few videos of yours now. Wow.. The way you explain things make complex ideas very simple to understand for people. If you started reviewing all types of cars, I can easily imagine your subscriptions going above 500K easily...

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

Жыл бұрын

thank you for kindness and sweet comment 🙏 🤲 please stay tuned and thank you for supporting the channel ❤️

I felt like based upon just the design language, it was going head to head with the defender.

@SylentONE

10 ай бұрын

They're targeting Bronco customers too

Agreed …. If you want a good off-road, you lose the third row in the overtrail if you want a a third row, you lose all the off-road capabilities in the Luxury. Should have options in both Luxury and Overtrail so if you want a luxury three row can still do great over lander. I love the big moonroof in the luxury version but you can’t get it in the over trail. Frustrating!

Rarely do I ever set up the third row seat. When I do, it is absolutely needed!

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

Жыл бұрын

Our 3rd row is down 90% of the but like you said when you need it, it's absolutely necessary 😆... with it down it's as flat as a bed and provides more than ample room for my nonsense

If they maintained KDSS on the other trim levels it would be manageable for people wanting a 3 row off-roader. Not having that is too much of a technical sacrifice.

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

Жыл бұрын

yes... so true... you could "work with it"... some claim "bedding" as a plus for the seat delete but with them deleted and the second row down, it creates a "step" (ie not at all flat)

I removed the 3rd seats- it’s about 6 cubic feet. More importantly the trunk load height is 6” lower so less rear view blockage

Yeah... There are about 7 million americans that have 3 or more kids. How many of those are going to buy a Lexus? how many of those Lexus owners with 3+ kids are going overlanding? Probably not too many. Its a numbers game and I'm sure Toyota has a decent idea of what trims to put out on the market. Overlanding with 3+ kids in a gx sized suv sounds so terrible XD . Enjoy the content, though. Just my two cents. :)

@Phi.D.888

Жыл бұрын

How many parents with 3 kids, have enough money or time to buy the gx550 overlander

@jbshryock

Жыл бұрын

I was just about to say something similar. Avg. Kids per house in US is 2.5

Ngl, if the overtrail had a third row that would be a deal breaker for me. I personally don't want a third row but I do think there should've been an option for people who do.

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

5 ай бұрын

agree, deal-breaker for us... hopefully Lexus will add the option in future years

Great points well articulated. Thanks

The way I see it. Most people that buy this more dedicated off-road edition are NOT going to use it as such. So they will cry about not having a third road, so yeah, they messed up. It is Better to have it than not. Also, I want to see how many are buying this for just off-road, please. Many, many of these will never touch dirt and you all know it. How many GX-460 are now in use as an overlanding vehicle? Being one of the best ones out there for that purpose. There you have it. It is simple. “ I am not going to buy a Land Cruiser, too expensive for just being a Toyota”. How about this. “ I am not going to buy such a expensive Lexus for off-road. 😅 Mark my words. The now older GX-460, specially the not so new ones will be in high demand for a dedicated overlanding rig.

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

Жыл бұрын

truth 👐

Make it optional, end of discussion.

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

Жыл бұрын

dealer option 😃 ... dealers can order as many as they see fit...

@Phi.D.888

Жыл бұрын

@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD correct, problem solved. 👍

Not gonna lie, i have dreams to remove seats and add all sorts of useless bits, but my practicality keeps making me put it off because essentially it's added weight and not really necessary for my needs.

which trim will you buy if you have to?

Toyota/Lexus have made it so difficult to get everything you want in a vehicle by making options available only in certain trims.

damn dude. thanks for the video. I have been driving my current vehicle for 15 years and just hoping the new GX would come out. Now with the EKDSS only going on the top models I'm not sure if I will get one :(

I think you nailed these points. Additional comment for point 2 is KDSS results in a phenomenal on road ride for such a heavy vehicle. Will the premium and luxury suffer from the same body roll as the 5th gen 4runner? A very un-lexus driving experience

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

Жыл бұрын

that's an excellent point about the on-road experience w/o KDSS 👏

Have the most Basic 2016 GX version, no bells and whisles of any type. This adds to the extreme reliability of the truck.

Very valid points. Lexus will make a mistake by not giving option for 3rd row. There are many trailer haulers and it’s catching up in overlanding; there are plenty aftermarket option for storage for overlanders. Great video, thank you.

@brydenhall2258

5 ай бұрын

I don’t understand the problem with the third row if it’s tucked down? I don’t think you’re giving up that much space. But it sure is nice to have when you have four kids and two adults to go to the movie or something like that.

@OverlandPlus

5 ай бұрын

@@brydenhall2258 I agree with you, Lexus should give third row seat option for the over trail trims too.

Great content, Sir, truly. I hope everyone that views this now or in the future will give it a Thumbs Up - in the very least. I’m a subscriber and look forward to all of your content.

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your sincere and kind words of support 🙏 ❤️

I have a deposit on a GX550 Overtrail+ …I’ll let you know if I’m able to order the parts for a third row and install them…I’m sure it’s added cost and I’ll try and see how much that is if it’s possible.

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for conducting this research. Please 🙏 keep us posted ❤️

@grigorkyokuto7546

Жыл бұрын

Arent they equipped with airbags?

@enjoytheridedude

Жыл бұрын

@@grigorkyokuto7546 oh wow…that would complicate things …third row airbags..I’ve been living under a rock I guess…well I guess we’ll find out whether over-trail models are pre-wired for them or not

I think because the Prado is supposed to come to the US in 2024 or 2025 Toyota is splitting the customer. You probably will see those features in the way you speak of in the Prado. 3 rows, KDSS, 4 cylinder/ V6 option, and so on. Like you said most GX owners do not know what they have. I own a 2022 GX and 2023 4Runner TRD Off Road with KDSS. There are things in the GX I wished the 4Runner had and things the 4Runner has that I wished the GX had. Yet in Australia the Prado has everything both truck have. I only bought the GX because it was the only way to get a Prado like truck in the US. Love the heck out of both trucks. As a son of a mechanic that DIYs since childhood, these were the last trucks running old drivetrain tech that does not breakdown. The new trucks will not have this reliability because the physics and engineering will not let them last 30 to 40 years and 500,000 miles. Too complicated to maintain at a reasonable cost even for a non DIY. How do I know this, because Toyota put a 4.0 V6 from the 4Runner in the Land Cruiser 300 that has to work in countries with inhospitable environments. Not the twins turbo 3.5 V6 they are using the US for the GX/LX. If anyone knows the engineer Japaneese guy with the KZread channel and AMD from Car Care Nut channel. They are all ready talking about Toyota/Lexus moving forward making these thing less durable for cost and weight savings. This decade is the cut off to get those Toyota/Lexus that last a lifetime.

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

Жыл бұрын

I hope you are right about the Prado! I'd love to have a smaller engine 3 row with ALL of the Prado offroad features 😃.... that would make everyone happy! Thank you for your insight 🙏 it is appreciated ❤️

@henry78560

Жыл бұрын

@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD That is the rumor for now. But we will see. Fingers cross. As I am out of the market long term, I know this would check a lot of boxes for folks. 👃Your channel is my long term reliability on the GX as your environment is tough on vehicles. I live in Florida and in no way coming close to yours in toughness. I am impressed with how well the interior is holding up. Thank you and blessings to you and your family.

@doolittlegeorge

Жыл бұрын

​@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROADcould have put a bench seat in the back absolutely. $500.00 plus make it some type of *"outdoor seat"* to boot sounds like the accounting department took over absolutely.

I have a 2022 Acura MDX I was thinking of upgrading to the new GX but if it doesn’t have a seven seater there’s no point in giving of my MDX. I need seven seats.

@brydenhall2258

5 ай бұрын

You can get a third row in the luxury option. You just can’t get it in the over trail . And the luxury, even with missing, over trial options will be superior to the MDX!

I think you hit the high points. It appears Lexus is trying to keep the current buyers that don’t care about off-road capability and grow the consumer segment of people who are buying broncos and Jeeps. What they’ve done IMO is discount the wants/desires of people like us who care more about reliability and practicality.

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

Жыл бұрын

amen 🙏 👐 ... Do you think they will bring the Prado in full spec to the US Market? Ie 3 rows, all the junk including the front locker too???

@jwalk1604

Жыл бұрын

@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD I was actually recently aboard and got to drive both the Prado and Fortunner. It’s remarkable how similar they are. Based on Toyota’s marketing a version of LC is coming, my question is how much this will cut into the 4Runner market. My guess is the 4Runner will be the Turbo 4 and the LC will be turbo v6. They have to have some differentiation between those two models and still fit under the Sequoia in terms of price and capability. It’s a tight needle to thread. So I bet they trick out the LC and make 4Runner more basic.

Can I add my own 3rd row in the 550?

@MrTeslaX

Жыл бұрын

no, safety issues

Test drive a Wrangler on-road and then test drive a Lexus on-road - Lexus wins every time👍!

100 % agree with everything you pointed out. I may just add, is it me, or does the intreior look plain and very Toyota like ( i mean not very luxurious) i don't see wood, just plastic. 80K for this? I'll stick to my old GX

Good looking family!

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

Жыл бұрын

✌️ ❤️

Hear you man. With 3rd row the OverTrail trim would be near perfect. I honestly think the reason they deleted it is because they have no room to fit the 33” spare and rear locker underneath the vehicle without sacrificing the ground clearance (or put a jump in the cargo area like Sequoia). Hopefully they correct that in a few years. For now I’ll just keep trucking in my current GX

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

Жыл бұрын

How many miles are on your current GX so far???

@rugged9769

Жыл бұрын

2K only on my 23 BL edition, with 1/4 of those miles on rough forest roads in CO. Going to try Cinnamon Pass in a few days with this stock GX. Can’t wait

@rguil15

Жыл бұрын

Lockers don't take up any additional room.

Where is the sunroof?

lot of us have no need , want ,or will ever have a use for a 3rd row I want payload, towing ,cargo space in a off road wagon we want to sleep in the back no roof top tents

@youtubecarspottersguide1

Жыл бұрын

like it over the sequoia trd pro fold down seats

my thinking on the 3rd row: the top trim of GX is going to get awfully close to LX territory with option. Lexus wants to push the people who really need the space into the LX.

Does the 2010 LX 570 have KDSS??

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

10 ай бұрын

I don't think so 😢

The way I see on the brochure there is a limited slip differential with a locking feature on all of them? However, I don't see crawl control with turn assist option, Electronic controlled locking rear differential, Down hill assist E-KDSS, or multi terrain select on any of the models except for the Overtrail! So the only GX 550 that is really capable of going "off road" is the overtrail trim? All the the prior GX trims are off road capable! even the base model. So the premium, premium+ and the Luxury and luxury+ are just going to have the looks but not the real capability? Of the 4 trims P, P+. L and L+ the only one with the adaptive variable suspension is the L+. Am I missing something here. I have the GX 460 Blackline edition, which I think is based on the Premium edition and it is very off road capable. I'm sort of not liking the configurations as much, though I like the new style. I was almost thinking of changing to the 550, but the more I look into it maybe not so much.

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

Жыл бұрын

yes you are correct... you hit the nail on the head... others have expressed your disappointment as well

@Cocora22

Жыл бұрын

@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD Honestly it seems like a huge step backwards. At first I thought I wasn't interpreting the information correctly, but the more I looked at it the less sense it made. Now it you want a fully off road capable Lexus straight out of the gate you would have to go to the LX 600. The LX 600 has it all, including the third road seat, but it comes with a price tag that makes your eyes water. I priced one at my local dealer, Premium $105,950.00 and an additional " market adjustment" of a whopping $10,000.00, they share that information with you without blinking. I'm almost tempted but I have a huge caveat, I am a 5 foot tall female and I can not raise the seat high enough to get a really good view over the hood!!! Are these made in Japan vehicles, where they are so popular NOT driven by females there? Japanese women are not super tall. The whole GX 550 is a bit........disappointing I guess we have to actually wait and see. Love all your comments and reviews.

Here's number FOUR for ya... Where the heck is the NA V8? I'm keeping my GX460 forever. And, it will last forever.

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

Жыл бұрын

😃 you're right... everyone loves the V8

Where does that put people who want a third row? In a Sequoia or Lx. I don’t recall a Sequoia being available in the 90’s. My first two LX/LC were because I needed a third row. Off roading was secondary. But last two LX trucks I removed third row. Kids grew up, moved out. Easy to do, never used.

@brydenhall2258

5 ай бұрын

Did you miss what he said? You can get a third row in the luxury version. You just can’t get it in the over trail version.

There are other versions of the GX550 with a 3rd row. Lexus should have deleted all of the cup holders in the back that existed for the 3rd row and make the cargo space as wide as possible in the Overtrail version.

I 100% agree with all points.

Agreed. I would say the only reason why Prado is not in the US is simply because, and generally speaking of cause, overlooking that fact that the US costumer base have a complex with the word “Toyota” being a luxury vehicle, the US market is different to other markets like Australia. Australia’s market as compared to the US market who Toyota sells their products comprise mostly of mining and agricultural industries. However in the US you guys in Toyota’s books are not a big enough customer base so they would prefer to sell you a few wanabe “Land Cruisers” and a Land Cruiser with high heels under the Lexus skirt, keep ing yo’ll distracted enough to offload your hard earnings while charging you an arm, leg and a kidney for the experience. If enough of you guys rally and stick it to Toyota, they will listen. Vote with your wallets/purse’s. Great content!

Not happy with Lexus on this. No E KDSS with 3 row seating option. Will stick with my 2020.

Imo...Toyota got their 'wires crossed up', so to speak, by "overpricing" the Land Cruiser to begin with and having the Sequoia in the lineup. The Sequoia is the larger vehicle, but was priced below the LC. That's a big pill to expect your customers to swallow...especially now with the redesigned Sequoia. Makes me wonder if that had something to do with cancelling the LC in the US. Btw....if you want to know if someone's an actual overlander or a mere poseur...just simply ask them to show you their turd hole digging shovel.

I Still disagree! Lol. How many people go "overlanding with a family of six? Be real, not many. The vast majority of people that will buy the overtrail don't have a use for the 3 row seat! They are thousands of 3 row seats from the first generation for sale for that reason, tje first thing people take of is the 3 row seats! In the gx460, they fold flat but take a lot of space and are heavy, for people that need a 3 row they can buy the luxury trims that have it! The overtrail is perfect as it is!

@thebeast9606

Жыл бұрын

As someone who takes his 4 kids AND grandchild off-roading, I have to disagree with you and say there are plenty others like me who just want to go off road and head back home, and thus don't need to pack a ton of stuff. Also, if you really NEED so much stuff, tow a trailer--the Lexus has a high tow rating, so utilize it.😉

@12masterr

Жыл бұрын

@thebeast9606 the ones like you are the minority my friend! As a minimalist I don't need much stuff at all but I sleep inside the vehicle, so space is critical. The people's ratio tjat take a family of six overlanding, compared to the most common 2 or 3 crew is probably 10 to 1. Also, for the family guy, there is the other model,you know!.

@robertherrmann4823

Жыл бұрын

Also, that third row is heavy. Removal helps negate the extra weight of sliders and bigger tires.

LOL. I guess overlanders don't have families. Its all single dudes. 3rd row is essential for us.

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

11 ай бұрын

yes. Big mistake... this "lone wulf overland commando" myth got too far into Lexus decision makers. Besides Landcruiser always proudly boasted "7 man seating" since the 1960s... 😃

@JoeHan268

10 ай бұрын

@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD LOL. The rant is justified. You had a great take on the 5 seat. They asking for trouble going in an American market with a Rubicon with 5 seats.

Have a 3 row suv since 2014, dont think I have used the 3rd row once. I prefer 2 rows, slide adjust bench seat in 2nd position.

No 2nd roll vented seats the LC300 has.

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

Жыл бұрын

great point!

I don't care about a 3rd row. I will be in line to pick one up as soon it is available. The Over Trail is a home run and Lexus will undoubtedly sell every one they make. I see the GX 550 as a direct competitor to the Range Rover. It will find a home wealthy suburbs across the United States.......and will offer Lexus reliability that Land Rover can only dream of.

I agree! Good points. The third row delete on the Overtrail was a bad idea.

I don’t care anything about a third row the issue is the turbo v6. It will never last like the naturally aspirated v8 460. Also, the transmission will gear hunt constantly.

@sammyjammy6647

11 ай бұрын

You’ve driven it??

And wait until they get out in the middle of nowhere and a turbo fails. That will be fun.

@brydenhall2258

5 ай бұрын

Toyota has been making turbos since the 1980’s. This is a great engine that they’ve had for seven years in many other vehicles . I’m not worried about this engine at all.

That was a big disappointment for me. Lets see if premium still make the job done then i will go for it. Otherwise we will go for defender

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

Жыл бұрын

The Defender is still 3 row too right??

@alwaleedbboy

Жыл бұрын

@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD yea its. I wanna trade my fj cruiser due to big family. And still i need an offroad car. So thats why defender was an option but the issue is with its reliability.

@brydenhall2258

5 ай бұрын

Actually, I don’t think the defender has a three row option? I was debating this as well, but I don’t think you get anything better out of the defender.

Who wants a third row? Buy a fricking Van if you need more seating.

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

11 ай бұрын

Gee the Landcruiser and the Landcruiser Prado have only had 3 rows since like *forever* 😆... that might have something to do with it 😃

Love and appreciate your comments. I think there’s a much better chance they keep or add the E-KDSS on the other trims with the 3rd row…. Eliminating that feature from any of the new models is very annoying.

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

Жыл бұрын

indeed. KDSS literally debuted on the original GX on ALL trims...

I did 😂

I love the 3rd row missing. Waste the space and weight plus less soccer moms will get it.

I'm thinking a lot market research went into GX550 design, I'm thinking Lexus wants to shake "soccer mom" image of the GX460, the rugged looks of GX550 is that statement, think about it, the type of buyer in GX price range is older, think generation-X, Gen-X doesn't want a Corvette, Gen-X wants a GX, a vehicle with engineering you can actually use, provides a sense of travel security, the GX550 buyer wants to be a hero, how many models on the market have that heroic vibe?? I don't want to be that fast and furious asshole just saying

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

Жыл бұрын

Very valid point. The "aggressive" design also hints towards that goal... just give us the option of a 3rd row seat 😢 😭 😿

Here in Australia, most FWD owners remove the third row (even all or part of the second row too) for overlanding / off road. So from the Australian perspective, not having a third row is a cost saving bonus! And the less off road / overlanding specific GX 550s do have the third row. So really, this seem an ideal range for the model.

They removed the CD player - WTF 🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️💿🙄!!

@masejames4906

Жыл бұрын

I agree, this is ridiculous, they did it on the Tundra & Sequoia

@Phi.D.888

Жыл бұрын

The heck wrong with them, and it also make the cassette tape player optional. 😉

Excellent opinions! Several of us have chosen to remove the 3rd row in order to custom fit our overlanding gear. The cool thing is that we CHOOSE to do it. I no longer have dependents in my household so it’s just my wife and I. Customization is important to many enthusiasts.

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

Жыл бұрын

Please tell me stories about not having dependents in the household so I can live vicariously through you... 😢... I'm jelly... we need the 3 rows... but ya as you said, if you don't need them out they come with a 14mm.. hopefully Lexus will make the seats a dealer option... this way dealers can make their own decisions based on local markets... peace ✌️ from the desert 🏜 🙏 ❤️

@CoastalGX

Жыл бұрын

@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD well you better get along with your wife LOL. Tax time hurts more than ever and having the kids over is a huge happy event.

The 4Runner is not based on the GX. Never has been. Jesus. Most overlanders delete the third row, remove or, or complain that they can't get rid of it. I have a family, drive a landcruiser, overland, and gave away my third row seats. Toyota was smart enough to know that a center locker and atrac is more than enough for 90+% of Gx buyers. Seems like someone had to made a contrarian video I guess. It worked. I clicked. Dammit.

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

Жыл бұрын

The 4runner has ALWAYS been a GX/Landcruiser Prado with features removed. At least the 4th gen onward 4runner. There's like 90 trims of 5th gen 4runner... want them all? Get a GX

The EKDSS may give it the best articulation of IFS but it’s definitely not going to match that of the solid front axle of the jeep

In the United States, families that have 4 or more children come in at just 6%. Third row delete doesn't affect that many families.

Jeep wranglers are also in the 60s, so they are not cheaper, the ones that look good at least

It doesn't need a third row. If you want 3 rows get a Premium or Luxury trim or buy a Land Rover. The GX OverTrail competes with 4Runner, Grand Cherokee, G-wagons, Grenadiers, and the new LC240 etc. It does not compete with a Wrangler or the Bronco!

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

Жыл бұрын

to the contrary, the GX has *ALWAYS* had 3 rows... since 2004. So does the Prado, so does the Landcruiser 300. It has traditionally always had 3 rows... only this oddball trim in the US market deletes the 3rd row.

@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080

Жыл бұрын

@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD yes except the Lexus has never offered an off road specific trim before, that was for Toyota, and Lexus has previously only offered 7 passengers, is only sold in North America, and made sure that 4Runner stopped offering 7 passengers. Now Toyota will bring back the Land Cruiser as the LC240 and will likely both offer 5 & 7 passengers. Prado, 200, & 300 have been offered in some markets as 5 passenger cars before. The 112" wheel base is not a good 7 passenger platform anyways. For about the same money the new Sequoia is better in many ways. When off roaders buy old GX's the first thing they do is rip out the third row. Removing that seat during manufacturing reduces purchasing cost, and complexity, increases payload, and interior volume, and satisfies the vast majority of the specific target market for that trim. It also makes it easier for Lexus dealers to understand their product line. I am sure that many Lexus customers have left the mark before because they didn't want the third row. Now they have a vehicle for that client. Large dog owners are a specific customer for 5 passenger versions. The Premium and Luxury will be way more capable than any previous GX. If you want the off road look change the wheels and tires.

@suzakukururugi6613

Жыл бұрын

The disappointing part of the cruiser is you actually have less headroom, and it feels less roomy even though it may have a bit more leg room

@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080

Жыл бұрын

@@suzakukururugi6613 "less head room" than what?... and which Cruiser are you speaking of? This new GX and the soon to come LC 250 appear to have way more head room than older LC models.

@suzakukururugi6613

11 ай бұрын

@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 sorry, that's what i was saying, my gx460 has more headroom than the LC. Thought it would be more in the LC but it isn't.

New GX will soon die with other competitors in the market

@Warhorse556

Жыл бұрын

What competitors would those be?

Facts most people dont look at the GX as a off road vehicle. Main reason people buy this say it is outdated.

Smart move to remove the third row seat ...less weight ...carry more crap. And who wants a screaming child in the backseat every time you hit a bump ?

@Phi.D.888

Жыл бұрын

🤣👍, leave the brats at home

@youtubecarspottersguide1

Жыл бұрын

and clean up the vomit and have to smell the soiled diapers

Not everybody needs the seating of a van. But everyone would enjoy the extra storage where the seats store. 5 comfortable seats is enough. I used my 3rd row in my Discovery 1 time in 3 years.

So happy, no 3rd row, need room for my stuff.

I don't want a 3rd row. But, I don't like this with 2 row because you're nowhere near "flat" back there with the 2nd row folded. I need a flat loading floor.

@suzakukururugi6613

Жыл бұрын

Difficult with box on frame vehicles, those are features of monocoque designs. (Not meant for off-road or severe duty use)

I think they couldn't fit third row seating, laying flat, while having the full size 33in off road tire

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

Жыл бұрын

There's no difference in the actual body between GX550 trims... ie you can stuff 33s in all trims... the other trims get larger diameter wheels to "make up" the wheel well space

I love the missing 3rd row. I hate 3rd rows. Most people don’t have 7-8 people to take off roading. If you have a 3rd rom of 7-8 people in your truck off roading, where you putting all their stuff? You need to bring 2 trucks for 7-8 people.

I hate 3rd row because it affects trunk capacity.

I don't want a third row. I prefer it with only 2 rows

Your 3rd row is NOT flat. It is on a raised platform. You do lose space!

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

Жыл бұрын

they lay flat. Even slightly lower than the 2nd row seats when the 2nd row is also folded flat. As stated in the video, the space gained does not outweigh the lost utility. If someone is that hard-core of an overlander and needs to travel with an entire house inside their GX, they will remove the second row seats as well and gut everything... But that's just my 2 cents 😉 😜

The more comparable comparison with this vehicle is the Land Rover Defender and not the Jeep.

3rd row useless can't fit any one comfortably leave it out the 4runner did get a bigger truck

turns out that toyota did the survey and families weren´t buying the gx.....so third row wasn´t needed. main buyers were business men and that´s another reason they left the lexus instead of the landcruiser