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@bastiendullier1981

Жыл бұрын

Book from K. Stanley Robinson!

@ShakespeareChan

Жыл бұрын

Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep by Philip K Dick

@Codex7777

Жыл бұрын

Dune's a great book but it's more space fantasy than actual science fiction...

@Codex7777

Жыл бұрын

Anything by Iain M Banks. My personal favourite, 'The Player of Games'. :) One thing to be wary of, is the fact that such things are skewed, almost by default, it's just the way things are, towards the viewpoint of young Americans. Whilst giving a fairly representative view of that demographic's preferences, it may not give an accurate overall picture, re' which books are considered classics. I'm not saying that any of these aren't worthy of inclusion, that's a subjective choice to a certain extent and I haven't read all of them, but it's well to take such results with a pinch of salt. :)

@joebrooks4448

Жыл бұрын

Great job, but 10 is a bit small... H G Wells, Verne, Starship Troopers, 1984, Animal Farm, The Humanoids, Fahrenheit 451, Planet of The Apes, The Space Trilogy, I Am Legend, The World Of Null A, Slan, Brave New World, Way Station, etc. There is a lot and as many opinions as there are fans... Reading them takes some time😬

3 Body Problem for me is unmatched.

@Viralsbookreviews

Жыл бұрын

Yeesssss

@libraryofaviking

Жыл бұрын

I really need to read it!

@easydoggy

Ай бұрын

Hitchhikers guide is better subjectily. 3 body suffers from pscdo science and poor characters

@deadlichaos

Ай бұрын

its really good but its very "different" id say.

@thecompanioncube4211

Ай бұрын

It starts very well, but becomes way too heady for my taste

I’m 55. When I was growing up, you would’ve seen the name Robert Heinlein all over a list like this. Now most booktubers don’t even know who that person is.

@arlissbunny

Жыл бұрын

YES! I’m shocked that Andy Wier is here with his lightweight book and Heinlein is nowhere to be found.

@williamsmith4148

Жыл бұрын

There is a reason for that.

@pookypoo1169

Жыл бұрын

Lol there is a reason why no one knows who Heinlein is.... I've read three of his books and I wasn't impressed

@DrMetalpin

Жыл бұрын

@@pookypoo1169 It wasn’t really my point that he belonged on the list. I was just saying how 30 years ago, he would’ve dominated many lists. There was a time that Stranger in a Strange Land was even in the top 10 of literature lists, and I’m talking about reputable sources of the time. Starship Troopers is another that was on many lists. I used to say he was one of my favorite authors. To be honest, I’ve tried to reread some of the books and they don’t really hold up anymore. It just hit me while I was watching this list that I couldn’t remember the last time I had even heard a content creator even mention his name. I still own all his books and I do still have fond memories of the books.

@phronze1

Жыл бұрын

The moon is a harsh mistress is in my top 3. I’m in my 30s

ATTENTION!!! If you decide to try Spin, DO NOT READ THE SYNOPSIS!!! I bought the book purely based on how highly regarded it is and didn't even bother checking what it was about. The book blew my mind!! It was amazing!! It had several moments of revelations that just tickled my brain. After reading it, i HAD to have more!! So i read the only thing left... the back cover. And was astonished to see that half of the "revelations" that came as such a surprise were in the synopsis!!! Soooooo glad i didn't read it first. There is a good chance i might not have liked the book as much if i knew all those things gling in. So, i HIGHLY recommend you read Spin and i also HIGHLY recommended you avoid finding out anything about it beforehand. You can come back to this comment and thank me later 😉

@coreyrachar9694

Ай бұрын

I just read it as the video doesn't go into any detail about the story, and being that there are so many books how else do I choose which one sounds good? The cover art? I do agree that spoiler free is the ultimate experience, but I simply don't have time to read every book to find out which ones are good :( . Perhaps you have a method?

@hulkslayer626

Ай бұрын

@coreyrachar9694 oh, I wasn't suggesting that for ALL books lmao Just that one in particular because so many revelations are "given away: on the back cover 😉

@hulkslayer626

Ай бұрын

@coreyrachar9694 The way I remained spoiler free is I looked up "Top 10 best sci-fi books of all time" on KZread, and make lists based on like 8 videos. Then I look for books that showed up on most lists. Those are the books I ordered without bothering to find out what they were about since there was a really good chance I would like it. That's how I came to love Spin.

@smartalek180

23 күн бұрын

A good general rule of thumb for ALL books, movies, &c: NEVER read reviews NEVER watch trailers, prevues, or ads NEVER read comment threads, tweets, facebook pages, ANYthing If possible don't even look at the posters. They ALL give something away that u r better off not knowing. Experience the art utterly unmediated by other ppl's responses, or by any preconceptions, if u can. Yr experience will always b better for this.

Thanks so much for including me in your list of people you used as research. I love seeing lists like this! So pumped to see Red Rising in there!

@libraryofaviking

Жыл бұрын

No worries! Thank you so much for watching!

@brap7551

2 ай бұрын

im struggling in the very latest book ...

It's a shame that We by Zamyatin never makes these lists as it is the book which influenced the entire dystopian sci-fi genre, from 1984 to Brave New World, the Handmaid's Tale and Farenheit 451, all were inspired by this novel! Definitely a less well known gem of a novel.

@uncletiggermclaren7592

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Papa liked it. Papa Stalin, not Hemingway.

@thedialectic6346

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. I've never heard of it but now It's a must read.

@thursoberwick1948

11 ай бұрын

Because a lot of these lists only consider English language SF, or even just American works.

@jessiemayfield6749

9 ай бұрын

I agree but I read it and it’s so silly with such terrible contrived dialogue I couldn’t finish it.

@goldtiger8587

5 ай бұрын

just finished We, can definitely say it needs to be on the list (even if I don't really like dystopian:)

I am always sad that modern audiences don't seem to know Larry Niven. Either the Mote in God's Eye or Ringworld seem like they should get more love.

@gretafreitag2041

9 ай бұрын

Ringworld was pretty enjoyable, but some of his grosser worldviews come to light in books like Lucifer's Hammer. I'm content with him being left to history.

@davidburfield5873

7 ай бұрын

.... I've read both and agree!

@nathanwhitmore3980

4 ай бұрын

Lucifers Hammer was a great read when I was in my 20s! What are your problems with it?

@MoreRubberyThanTurgid

4 ай бұрын

@@gretafreitag2041what were his grosser worldviews?

@KToll5784

3 ай бұрын

@@gretafreitag2041too bad, he’s still one of the most popular sci fi authors of all time

The Rememberance Of Earth's Past trilogy was the most enjoyable sci-fi I've ever read. It just kept getting better and better. It's terrific stuff.

@mrcojocaru

Жыл бұрын

That series took turns and went to places I could never have hoped to anticipate.

@toyinobasa5902

Жыл бұрын

Yep, it was incredible. What a journey!

@Snowy123

Жыл бұрын

Enjoyable? The trilogy gave me nightmares.

@grahamearle1518

11 ай бұрын

The end of the 3rd book lost me honestly. Before that, though, this series was incredible.

@mikstratok

8 ай бұрын

I remember the moment I was reading about the betrayal, it left me cold. Sadly, I feel like I can't properly appreciate this because I can't speak chinese.

Leviathan Wakes is excellent and definitely deserves to be on the list!

@KatePham27

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I don't get how a "newer" novel doesn't deserve to be on great book lists??

@user-gu7yo5yn9g

Жыл бұрын

I'm of the opinion it really doesnt deserve it. I wasnt enamored with the writing quality and most of the characters I disliked except for the space Texan and Miller. The reveal at the end to me was a groan worthy moment. Killed all the cosmic horror that had been built up completely, and I still dont understand why miller fell in love with the girl. However I will confess I've been spoiled by the likes of Patrick Obrian and Tolkien since I was listening to their work at the time too.

@asusminor

Жыл бұрын

Eh

What a great project and video! I’m surprised a list so classics heavy did not include 2001: A Space Odyssey, Rendezvous with Rama, or Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. IMO books like The Martian won’t end up with real staying power, but I guess that remains to be seen. “Open the pod bay doors, HAL,” is a widely known quote and meme for a reason. I’m thrilled to see Dune and Neuromancer ranked so highly. For me, Three Body Problem would be on the list but I’m a physicist so I’m biased. PS - when you said, “The Hunger Games,” I yelled, “No!” Thank the Great Bunny it was a joke.

@libraryofaviking

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I am glad I was able to suprise you 😂

@humanfirst11

Жыл бұрын

How can you describe A Rendezvous with Rama? Is it something like Neuromancer?

@arlissbunny

Жыл бұрын

Rendezvous with Rama is kind of like 2001: a Space Odyssey. …kind of.

@brendanh8193

Жыл бұрын

@@humanfirst11 Rendezvous with Rama is essentially an exploration of a massive alien space ship. It is fundamentally a milieu, idea and sense of wonder story, so if you mainly read for characters, you will be disappointed. Neuromancer has a darker, grungier feel to it.

@paulshawley6490

Жыл бұрын

3-body problem is some of the best science fiction I've read in 50 years - mind-bending physics which took me time to wrap my head around but totally worth it.

I've read a lot of them, but there are some that I missed. Thank you for all your work putting together that list!

Fascinating list. It was really interesting to see how your personal algorithm shakes out (shook out? lol). I was disappointed that my personal top 20 sci fi didn't really make the cut... like Rendezvous with Rama (left me feeling empty in the strangest-- but most thoughtful--way) or the Crystal Singer. Maybe I have bad taste, haha! New subscriber and enjoying your videos so far! Keep up the good work!

Thank you! This has helped me find a lot of book!

I think you would enjoy Spin! The scope of the sci-fi concepts is wonderful and the character work is solid too!

"Ender's Game by Scott Orson Card" By WHO? Love those books. The Shadow series is just as good as the Ender series, too.

Wow I loved the left hand of darkness and didn't expect it to be so high! Ursula was the best.

@libraryofaviking

Жыл бұрын

I definitely need to read it!

@MrSyntheticSmile

Ай бұрын

Too tiresomely verbose sociological fiction, but not science fiction.

Great list. Thanks

thank u so much for doing this work for us, love ya

Loved that golden sun rendition of Darrow

Project Hail Mary by Andy Weir is amazing and arguably even better than The Martian. I would recommend everyone to go give it a read.

I’ve read half the books on this list. All great, but give The Tree Body Problem another shot… the whole trilogy was mind blowing, just awesome creativity and it poses big questions. I enjoyed the second and third books more than the first.

@thirdmonkeyent_llc

Жыл бұрын

Halfway through the first book right now. Reading Alastair Reynolds Revelation Space as well. Just finished House of Suns recently. HoS was REALLY good.

@dustmaker1000

Жыл бұрын

I read the first two and although interesting, I found them difficult to read. Never could get into the third book

@redlander55

9 ай бұрын

Many/most KZread comments say that books 2 and 3 are better than the 1st. The editor of the translation I am reading thinks the 1st and 3rd books are better. I read book 1 and will soon finish book 2. About 2 thirds in book 2, it seemed weaker than the 1st. Now, something like 5/6 in, I am not really sure, I'll see how it ends to properly evaluate it.

@bretysbooks6260

7 ай бұрын

Book 2 is by far my favorite

@redlander55

7 ай бұрын

I read the trilogy. I think I liked the 1st book the most. It is more like a traditionally structured book. The 2nd has some major structural/story-telling issues. It has 3 parts. The 1st ends basically confirming what you knew from the 1st book, so nothing new and major. Other things do happen, but are somewhat overshadowed by the lackluster ending. And the 3rd part starts by sort of canceling everything that happened in the previous 2 parts. Maybe the book should have been presented as a duology of novellas, rather than a single novel. Or, I don't know, maybe the effect would have been the same, no matter the presentation. On the plus side, this book has the best ending, I would say. The 3rd book is like a chronicle, which is ok, but not wow.

I was hoping to see "The Island of Doctor Moreau" by H.G. Wells, "Planet of the Apes" by Pierre Boulle and "Jurassic Park" by Michael Crichton on this list.

I never read Leviathan Wakes but so many people putting it on their list make me want to read it :)

@mikepalmer2219

2 ай бұрын

It’s a pretty good read. Not sure if it’s a top 20 all time but it is worth reading.

As someone that isn't much of a scifi reader but have Jules Verne as one of my top 5 authors of all time i'm happy to see him make the list. :)

Ahhh been waiting. Thank you

Hyperion might be my favorite SciFi book of all time. It's really really good.

@libraryofaviking

Жыл бұрын

It is on my tbr! I've heard so many great things!

@dennisbarros8818

Жыл бұрын

Hyperion had a slow start, but once it got going, oooweee.

@ritac9769

Жыл бұрын

@@dennisbarros8818 I disagree here. That opening story of Father Duré had me gripped from the start.

@dash4800

Жыл бұрын

​@@dennisbarros8818 I think it starts strongest and ends incredibly weak. Didn't care at all about the last story and then it just ends. Its literally half a book. Idk how people could rank it so high as a solo novel.

The fact that Van Vogt books are not talked about means that these rankings are pure BS.

19: House of suns - Alastair Reynolds 19: Journey to the center of the earth - Jules Verne 19: The man in the high castle - Philip K. Dick 19: The book of the new sun - Gene Wolfe 17: Foundation - Isaac Asimov 17: Leviathan Wakes - James S.A Corey 16: Spin - Robert Charles Wilson 15: The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury 14: Fahrenheit 451 - Ray Bradbury 13: War of the worlds - H. G. Wells 12: Red rising - Pierce Brown 9: A fire upon the deep - Verner Vinge 9: Hyperion - Dan Simmons 9: The Martian - Andy Weir 8: Neuromancer - William Gibson 7: A brave new world - Vintage Huxley 6: A time machine - H. G. Wells 5: The left hand of darkness - Ursula K. Le Guin 4: Enders Game - Orson Scott Card 3: Frankenstein - Mary Shelly 2: 1984 - George Orwell 1: Dune - Frank Herbert

@timkadom1722

Ай бұрын

I might have snow crash in there somewhere also :)

Seriously? No Heinlein? The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. Time Enough for Love. To Sail Beyond Sunset. Stranger in a Strange Land, Starship Troopers. No Harry Harrison? Stainless Steel Rat series. Death World Series. War with the Robots collection of short stores. No Bujold? Truly wonderful Vorkosigan Saga series of books. Cherryh's Down below Station doesn't make the list, nor Niven's Ringworld or the Mott in Gods Eye? Shocking.

@eb20675

Жыл бұрын

How about The Stars My Destination or Gateway...Yeah, this list sucks!

@belg4mit

Жыл бұрын

It's a meta compilation of various sources amounting to a bit of a popularity contest, so lots of high school reading, but not a lot of hard sci fi. You and others have mentioned a few unsung gems (Niven, Capek), and he highlighted a few (Adams, Stephenson) but some others that could have easily made the short list are Brunner ("The Sheep Look Up", "Standing on Zanzibar"), Bacigalupi ("The Water Knife", "Windup Girl"), Forward ("Dragon's Egg"), Atwood ("Oryx & Crake") and Kim Stanley Robinson ("Red/Green/Blue Mars"; although I dare say you can probably get by just reading geen ;-)

@williamvorkosigan5151

Жыл бұрын

@@belg4mitNice I might well check a few of them out.

Thanks for creating this list and giving the sci-fi genre a spotlight! I am surprised that Octavia E. Bulter is not mentioned in this list. Kindred is amazing. Happy to see Ursula K. Le Guin in this list though, especially so high! I really need to pick up one of her books soon!

@libraryofaviking

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching! I need to read some of Butler's work!

@Zivilin

Жыл бұрын

I really need to get around to read kindred and Fledgling.

@rodneyevans5353

9 ай бұрын

I’ve tried several times, but I can’t get into Kindred.

@jaustill237

7 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, 8 is a deep cut. But those of us who know...

Cool list, my favorite remains The 3 Body Problem series, especially book 2: The Dark Forest, crazy stuff.

Very cool idea to Rank from other KZreadrs. I think i know of two that you watched their list. I like the idea of the point system. I use to read reviews on GoodReads. But i find vlogs a bit better. Im now a Sub to your channel. Will watch more this week. Tyty 👍👍

Wow! Can't believe the disrespect for "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy".

@MystiqWisdom

Жыл бұрын

Oh, good point man. That's incredible it wasn't even mentioned.

Did not see it here but the biggest omission to me is Lord of Light by Rover Zelazny. For me it is up there with Dune and probably switch between my number 1 and 2 spot. It holds its own against any other classic and I highly recommend it to anyone who loves science fiction. I’ve given my copy away at least three times. Other omissions include The Stars My Destination by Bester, Gateway by Pohl, and The Forever War by Haldeman. For anyone reading, I recommend Zelazny’s work. His fantasy series The Amber Chronicles is fantastic and his other work in science fiction is good to great. …And Call Me Conrad tied with Dune for the Hugo, The Dream Master and Jack of Shadows are also recommended.

@smartalek180

23 күн бұрын

I second the Bester "Stars My Destination" rec, w/an additional reminder to our friends across the pond that in the UK, it was published under the alternate title, "Tiger! Tiger!" And I'd add his other classic novel, "The Demolished Man." Also, a plug for Samuel R Delany's "Empire Star."

Thanks for putting in the time and effort to create this list! Interesting to see which titles made the cut. Definitely not surprised that Dune made it to the top spot, though I do have to admit that I personally vastly preferred the movie, lol. Great video!! 🤩

@libraryofaviking

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching! Definitely not a surprise that Dune was ranked so highly!

@breeeegs

2 ай бұрын

Dune has always frustrated me, I really want to love the mind-blowing world building and the story but the writing is so bad it just gets in the way

When you said hunger games i literally screamed "WHAT!!" at my screen xD Great video and collection! Still weird not seeing Children Of Time on there!

"Replay" by Ken Grimwood; "Replay is a fantasy novel by American writer Ken Grimwood, first published by Arbor House in 1986.It won the 1988 World Fantasy Award for Best Novel" (Wikipedia)

@a.westernmann4224

3 ай бұрын

I haved to 2nd this. Replay was an absolutely phenomenal read. I thoroughly enjoyed and imho is the greatest time travel novel I’ve yet come across.

@davidslater9713

2 ай бұрын

Agree, ' Replay by Ken Grimwood a great time travel novel that none of the KZreadrs talk about. - woefully underrated.

I'm missing Arthur C. Clarke and his Space Odyssey. Good job btw.😀

@libraryofaviking

Жыл бұрын

It was on the list but didn't make it into top 20! Thank you!

@dougcastleman9518

2 ай бұрын

Childhood’s End!

Great work! I'd like to see a list of top sci-fi series, though. Forget Frankenstein and Brave New World. Get the Culture and Murderbot on there.

Can't tell you how happy I am that the top 3 are some of my favorite books.

@libraryofaviking

Жыл бұрын

Love that!

No surprises really. But there are glaring omissions. Just makes me wish these booktubers were reading more classics. Among them: 1. Gateway by Fred Pohl. It won two major awards and started an excellent series: the Heechee saga. 2. Startide Rising, by David Brin. Also won two awards. The second of a great series called Uplift. 3. Mote in God's Eye, by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle. Nominated for three awards. This was must-read sci-fi in the 70s and 80s (and I would say still so today.) 4. An Arthur C. Clark book. Probably either Childhood's End or Rendezvous with Rama but why not both? Come on, people! Get to reading!

@clownshoes430

Жыл бұрын

great list you have here, I loved both Childhood's End and Mote, got about 80 pages of Rama left like it so far, I bought the first 2 Gateway books at a thrift store 2 weeks ago.I'm gonna read those after I finish Rama. I'll definitely check out Uplift soon. Just to put it out there If you haven't read "Earth Abides" I highly recommend it

@hypemind612

Жыл бұрын

Childhoods end was incredible.thsnk you for reminding me to read that again!

@thefoamingbrain2469

Жыл бұрын

Startide Rising, by David Bri a book about talking dolphins... im out man .. i cant take most Sci fi seriously and old sci fi just doesnt hold up with all the new tech in 2023

@douglasdea637

Жыл бұрын

@@thefoamingbrain2469 Well, it's about way more than that. And the "talking dolphins" are couched in a culture where genetic change and dealing with strange languages and races is the norm.

House of Suns might be my favorite of all time, but Red Rising, and Scythe by Neal Shusterman (technically a Sci Fi, mostly dystopian are in my top 3).

The sword of kaigen hardcover looks really cool, will it print limited copies of this or will we see it time to time available for sale like Brandon's leatherbounds

@libraryofaviking

Жыл бұрын

It is stunning! According to the Kickstarter, it is a "limited print" so I don't believe there will be more copies of that exact edition!

Thanks for the screen time my friend. This video is excellent

@libraryofaviking

Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate!

I expected to see Heinlein's "Stranger in a Strange Land" to be high on list. I'm not a huge fan but it has been very influential.

@smartalek180

23 күн бұрын

Or at least "Starship Troopers" or "Moon Is a Harsh Mistress." But, as I noted in another comment, that recency bias -- it's a bitch.

Where are Childhood’s End, 2001: A Space Odyssey and The City and the Stars, by Arthur C. Clarke, one of the greatest sci-fi authors of all time?

@smartalek180

23 күн бұрын

Does the term "recency bias" have any meaning to you? It does now!

you've saved me so much time, thank you

off to add these all to my tbr!

great job putting this together - yes some surprizes and aggravating picks too 🎉

The three body problem trilogy changed my outlook on space and aliens

Great job! I would rank A Canticle for Leibowitz by Walter Miller Jr. somewhere in the top ten all-time. Another wonderful book that I think more young readers should explore is Flowers for Algernon. It certainly belongs in the top 20, IMO. Two Larry Niven books, Ringworld and The Mote in God's Eye, also deserve consideration for a top 20 to 30 list, along with Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? and Lord of Light. I enjoy your videos!

@DanKaraJordan

Жыл бұрын

You, sir, have very good taste.

@londonpanther1017

10 ай бұрын

Absolutely agree with those additions but any list of great (and influential) sci-fi also has to include The Stars My Destination (aka Tiger, Tiger).

@pinballrobbie

3 ай бұрын

Alfred Bester

I am missing on the list name of Karel Čapek (author of War with Newts, R.U.R, Dášenka,...), Svatopluk Čech (The Excursions of Mr. Brouček to the Moon and to the 15th Century), Julius Verne (The Begum's Fortune).

I was about to get angry when you mentioned Hunger Games lol. Thanks for doing all the work to compile this list!

@deanryanmartin

Жыл бұрын

hahaha. The Hunger Games is a good sci-fi story but well-marketed for teens.

@libraryofaviking

Жыл бұрын

Haha 😂 Thank you for watching!

@drakeweddner

Жыл бұрын

@Dean Ryan Martin no no its not

So many times people say 15 books, they mean top 10 with some honorable mentions but you included so many in when you only said 20. Keep up the great content!

have only read eight of this top 20 list, but my birthday is coming up, so getting and reading the other 12! thanks for a great list!

which of these would be appropriate for middle school kids?

Maybe call this “my favorite list of sci fi books.” Because that is really what it is. You state it throughout the video, and qualitatively these books are outclassed by others. It’s a great list though, and thanks for sharing your passion!

Im appalled the Astronaut didn’t even make the cut, an underrated masterpiece

Weird not to see any China Mieville - did he at least get any in the top fifty or so?

For me it's The City and the Stars by Clarke, (read it 5 times), The Stars My Destination, by Bester, Caves of Steel, by Asimov, SLAN, by A. E. van Vogt, (the author whose style was copied and acknowledged by P. K. Dick), and Nunquam, by Lawrence Durrell.

@drewdevlin9192

3 ай бұрын

great list

At first I thought "no Arthur Clarke or Stanislaw Lem is borderline insulting", but then I remembered that this isn't really a strict sci-fi list either. Any list containing Brave New World and 1984 on one hand, and the Hyperion Cantos, Dune and The Expanse on the other, isn't really doing it's job of narrowing down it's genre well enough. Now, the uploader's definitely not to blame, since the list is compiled from other lists, but those lists should probably have been tighter. All of the books I just mentioned are classics and I love them all, but they simply have no place being on the same list. As for me, The Three Body Problem is probably my favourite science fiction, hard or otherwise, series of all time.

Leviathan Wakes and the Expanse series are instant classics. Seems strange that there are no Clark, Heinlein or Niven novels. I would have expected Childhood's End, Stranger in a Strange Land, and Mote in God's Eye to make this list. I quarel with Red Rising which is Fantasy, and I think Spin is not better than the golden age classics listed above. I would also liked to see selections limited one to an author which would have limited Wells and Bradbury to their single best works: War of the Worlds and Farenheit 451. And without a doubt Handmaid's Tale deserves a place on this list, particularly in light of recent developments.

@adamnesico

Жыл бұрын

Handmaid tales isnt scify, as the own author said, does not reflex tech change. Recent changes? Wich? I don’t see changes in islamists or jasidics.

@nhennessy6434

Жыл бұрын

@@adamnesico It's dystopian fiction in which infertility is a consequence of environmental pollutions and degradation which sounds like Sci-Fi to me. Recent changes? How about Dobbs decision rescinding the right to privacy and with it the constitutional right of women to determine their own reproductive destiny, along with the Texas laws which allow private bounty hunters to sue anyone who so much as gives a ride to a pregnant woman to an abortion legal state. Not much dystopia there, all ratified by the Gilleadists on Scotus. So Handmaid's Tale has no relevance to contemporary events. I agree. /s

@adamnesico

Жыл бұрын

@@nhennessy6434 Mmmm, ok ,then can fit. A lot more is needed for make such society. There are countries who have restricted abortion. They arent like handmaid tales. Ireland had it restricted until recntly. Is a very nice country. Kill ur son is for u control your reproduction? Then if you say males has no right on it then you quit males all right to chose in reproduction. So dont ask me to respect your sexist and hypocryte posture. Get rid of ur responsability to other human being is a right? Then you should ride males of any resposability over kids. Or enable slavery again. Or honor killings. You dont? How hypocrytes. And for certain, handmaid tale is mostly christianophobic propaganda. When someone made a bad copy with muslims instead, eople blamed it as racist. The closest thing to hanmaid tale tha exist in ur country are the hasidics, nothing alike in christians. And you dont care about hasidics. In Europe isntead, we start seeing things like the antimuslim version. I didnt understood well that bounty hunters thing, doesnt seem well written. Nothing suprising, as Michael Cricton says, with your actual intelelctual property laws, people can be bounty hunted for forcibly take their cells for comercial purposes. You are a mad country, you dont care for such law, so not suprising you have another crazy law for bounty hunters relatd to abortion. You said that handmaid tales ws done due to pollution? Then what could go to it would be pollution, not abortion laws. Lots of countries have restricted abotion and arent the handmaid tale. According to a movie I watched recently, you dont care about pollution, wich kills dozens of thousands of people. Thanks for proof for you kill babies is more important than avoid sefish companies bad actions who poison ur country, kills dozens of thousands and could be handmaids tales true. And for crtain, with abortion you are renouncing to future. No country with unrestricted abortion has a healthy population. You have chosen death. Nothing surprising, you worship money, you sacrifice ur kids to the god of prosperity. Hehehe, you are new moloch worshipers. Others chose life and they will live. Most africans restrict abortion. Are they the handmaids tale society? As africnas say: We will live in 3 centuries. West not.

Oh, man. You got me with the Hunger Games 😂 . I'm surprised not to see "2001 Space Odyssey" or "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" . Great list, though. Thanks for sharing!

Gotta ask: of those 60 lists how many were Moids? =)

@MediaDeathCult

Жыл бұрын

42

I'm surprised not to even see Forever War by Jose Haldeman on the list. It's the book that single-handedly made me love the sci-fi genre. It also won a few award.

@Eidolon1andOnly

Жыл бұрын

Hard to know what's on the list since he jumps numbers

@libraryofaviking

Жыл бұрын

There were a lot of surprises on this list!

@keithla7654

6 ай бұрын

Strongly Agree. What about the Old Man's War or The Heechee books? Those hit hard for me.

For newbie’s in SF try the Giant’s Star series by James Patrick Hogan. Read at least the first three books. Pure SF. Try the Splinter series by Niven & Pournelle. Babel 17 by Samual Delaney.

It’s amazing to my Niven gets overlooked in these lists. Ringworld and its sequels, intragal trees…. :(

Sooo helpful!!

@libraryofaviking

Жыл бұрын

That makes me glad!

Am i the only one that thinks that fahrenheit 451 is only average?

@joejohnson3814

Жыл бұрын

I think it’s petty overrated as well.

@clippers1731

Жыл бұрын

I think people praise it for it's writing style. It's very poetic and goes into long paragraphs of the symbolism that lies in everything. Which in terms of writing deserves praise because I read and like some of its symbolism. The problem is you wait a while for the story to move forward because the author won't shut up about the hidden meanings about what a character feels about a wall or something. Yeah, we get it. The world has lost something of value. Please tell what happens next.

@sly6868

Жыл бұрын

Yes

@justvitvit

Жыл бұрын

Martian chronicles are horribly overrated

@alexanderthurber4257

Жыл бұрын

Yes 😂

Despite loving DUNE, this list is mostly about "important books in scifi" than "best ones"...

Thanks for the video, this was interesting. I personally think classic sci-fi is overrepresented. I guess it really depends how the source lists are defining "top", if they are accounting for influence on the genre etc then I get it. For me enjoyment of the story is more important and by this measure I'm not sure how many of them stand up to recent alternatives. For example Project Hail Mary (one of my favourites) was not on the list. Whereas I listened to Brave New World around the same time and while it was impressive that they were able to speculate the way that they did so long ago and I'm sure it was influential, as a story I didn't rate it that highly.

@chrisprosser5055

Жыл бұрын

Glad to see Red Rising and The Martian doing well though, really great books IMO.

@brendanh8193

Жыл бұрын

It's a great point that different people make lists for different reasons. I was surprised that Flowers for Algenon wasn't there, nor any of David Brin's, Terry Pratchett's, Joe Haldeman's, Steven Baxter's or Neil Gaiman's novels, given their respective popularity of their times. But I took that to be due to more younger people vlogging as the reason.

@timonousiainen354

8 ай бұрын

This is exactly how I feel as well. Many of the classics are indeed very influential, but few of those early pioneers were excellent writers. Often those books are thought experiments on an single idea. The stories and dialogs are often far behind those in modern sci-fi books. Then again, critics often value drama and complexity; whereas, exiting story let alone entertainment value are not valued. I have never understood this, it is like the book is the better, the more difficult it is. If you went to buy a car and the sales person told you that this car is darn difficult to drive, but it is a great car, would you buy it? To me books are first and foremost stories, so anything that prevents readers to enjoy the story should make the book worse, not better. When I look for re-reading in my own bookshelf, I often pick a book by David Brin or Peter F Hamilton, yet I seldom see them in any of these lists. Maybe I just have a weird taste?

Three body probelem is one of the best sci-fi books after Hyperion that I have ever read

Have you read Blindsight, by Peter Watts? What do you think of that one?

Roadside Picnic which is what yhe Stalker games are based on, Metro 2033 by Dmitriy Glukhovsky, and the Faded Sun trilogy by CJ Cherryh are all fantastic and classics, i would reccomend looking into them. Shout outs to To Sleep in a Sea of Stars by Christopher Paolini, The Candesce series by Karl Schroeder , and darn near anything written by Mark Kalina.

I am a pretty big reader and I love the sci fi genre, surprisingly I haven't heard of most of the books on this list. But I'm glad 1984 and Dune got the praise they deserved, but I feel like mortality doctrine by james dashner should've been there, such a good series.

@katekuzanov7647

10 ай бұрын

If you like 1984, I highly recommend the brave new world. Epic stuff

Red rising is a joke being ranked so high. It is a complete mary sue series.

@J.E.W.

2 ай бұрын

I know right. I always finish a book when I pick it up so it was pretty painful having to trod that slog of slogs. At least it wasn't as bad on the writing/Mary Sue front as The Kingkiller Chronicle. Then again, The Kingkiller Chronicle was so bad it was at least unique like "The Room" to the point it had me open-mouth laughing at times. Red Rising was just bland bad.

Honestly I love the Red Rising series so much that it's almost ruined reading for me because I've searched for something that lives up to it for me and nothing does. Like I've read and listened to audiobooks of other books I've really liked but nothing has come close to that series for me.

We by Yevgeny Zamyatin should be on here. It came before 1984 and Brave New World.

I'm currently reading Neuromancer, and I'm in shock at how much it's like reading cyberpunk 2077 😅 it must have been a huge inspiration. I'm loving it so far!!!

@BlairBoggletrot

Жыл бұрын

Happy to see Dune at number 1! 👏🏻

@Codex7777

Жыл бұрын

Neuromancer was pretty much the start and inspiration for the entire cyberpunk genre. :)

@Codex7777

Жыл бұрын

Dune's a great book, I have the entire series and love it but it's more space fantasy than actual science fiction... That's the problem with it being in such lists.

@thatoneguy3590

Жыл бұрын

I read Neuromancer before I played cyberpunk 2077 and at some points in the game it literally felt like I was seeing and playing in Neuromancer world lol

@riftplut0474

Жыл бұрын

@@Codex7777 it’s not really fantasy as there is no magic or anything and it’s about the advancement of humanity across the stars

8:04 i would argue The stars my destination is a earlier example of a cyberpunk novel from al the way back in 1956

Only 83 books were mentioned across all the lists? That seems like a rather low number to me. How many lists did you use for your data?

Surprised not to see Iain M Banks on this list. Or M John Harrison.

Interesting list. I love science fiction short stories. I would.recommend Stephen King, Ursula K LeGuin, Joey Vimsante, Arthur C Clarke and TIm Schooch. I.enoy.reading and listening to short stories.

I haven't had a chance to read the Red Rising sage yet, but isn't the first book usually considered the worst of all the six?

the fact that war of the world and the time machine was written befor the first plane was build still blows my mind

You totally got me at 11:00 :D

@libraryofaviking

Жыл бұрын

😁😁😁

I wasn't a fan of Dune. I read the first three books and then stopped. I just couldn't find much to like about the characters who often felt emotionally flat to me. Murderbot should have been on this list. And the Bobiverse series is something more people should check out

🚀 I do love me my SciFi, so I had at least some familiarity - heard of, owned, read or unread - with this list except for one completely unfamiliar title! I have immediately added Robert Charles Wilson’s “Spin” to my next haul. Fabulous, I always like to discover new backlist titles to haul. I don’t think I’m at all familiar with him!!!

@libraryofaviking

Жыл бұрын

I hope you will enjoy Spin! Happy reading and thanks for watching!

Dune had more than DOUBLE the points of 2nd place. That's impressive!

I'm a little bit surprised, that there's no book of Stanislav Lem on the list.

Connie Willis, N.K. Jemisin, Martha Wells, Octavia Butler are suspiciously absent. I think most online lists just honor the old guard. I like Library of a Viking's personal picks better. imo

@jaustill237

7 ай бұрын

I'm hoping that this changes over time.

So happy House of Suns is on this list!!

@libraryofaviking

Жыл бұрын

I should definitely check it out!

Red rising was also my first for sci fi books

I loved the expanse books. So I’m glad it’s on the list

Ive read 11 of the list, watched the movie or series of 3 and both read and watched Dune and Enders game.

Where are Julian May, Anne McCaffrey, Peter F Hamilton, Frederik Pohl, E E 'Doc' Smith, Larry Niven, Alastair Reynolds, Bob Shaw, Iain M Banks? Otherwise, good list :)

No Iain M Banks? Octavia Butler? Peter Hamilton? Ada Palmer? However I’m glad to see Le Guin get more and more recognition recently - her Hainish series is underrated for sure.

@davidburfield5873

7 ай бұрын

Agreed, Banks and Hamilton should be up there.... maybe they're too complex for the average reader....

Thoughts: (1) "House of Suns" should be much higher. (2) Missing books: "The Children of Time" by Adrian Tchaikovsky; "God Emperor of Dune" by Frank Herbert; "Ancillary Justice" by Ann Leckie; (3) dark horse entries: "Dark Eden" by Chris Beckett and "The Murderbot Diaries: All Systems Red" by Martha Wells (belongs as a top 5 book along with "The Martian" on any "Ease Into Sci-Fi List")

2:02 Yeah, whatever, miss me with that... Tell me more about that Mother of Learning on the left side instead!

I read Dune recently. It's an incredible, must read book