Top 20 Roller Coasters from Maurer

Maurer has been around for nearly 150 years, but they've only been building coasters for roughly 30 years. This manufacturer has some unique models like the sky loop, x-car, and spike coaster. But which are the best? Find out in this countdown!
Video Credits
Bolt (Maurer Rides)- • BOLT: Ultimate Sea Coa...
Cagliostro (Incrediblecoasters)- • Cagliostro Lights On POV
Crazy Car (Maurer Rides)
Crush's Coaster (Theme Park Worldwide)- • Walt Disney Studios | ...
Dragon's Fury (Theme Park Worldwide)- • Dragon's Fury - Chessi...
Fiorano GT Challenge (Soltau Cruiser)- • Fiorano GT Challenge O...
Freischutz Off-Ride (KirmesAktuell)- • Video
Freischutz POV (KirmesAktuell)- • Video
G Force POV (psyclonesteve)- • G Force, Drayton Manor...
Parque de Atracciones de Madrid Off-Ride (Theme Park Worldwide)- • Parque de Atracciones ...
Shock (Theme Park Worldwide)- • Shock - MagicLand
Sky Dragster POV (b-j-oe-r-n)- • Sky Dragster Skyline P...
Spinball Whizzer POV (Dylans Coaster Universe)- • Spinball Whizzer Forwa...
Venus GP (Looping Lee Theme parks, Roller coasters and more)- • Venus GP Roller Coaste...
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  • @rmel8139
    @rmel8139 Жыл бұрын

    Wow. I was not expecting Rip Ride Rocket to be #1 on this list. After several bad rides, I gave up on this coaster a few years ago, but keep hearing that some people love it so I think I need to give it another chance.

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    I think the roughness is train dependent, but even my shakiest rides have been enjoyable.

  • @bunobeatz5737

    @bunobeatz5737

    16 күн бұрын

    Its gotten 10x worst since then. The coaster cars engineered design is what's causing the really intense head banging and violent shaking

  • @rmel8139

    @rmel8139

    16 күн бұрын

    Yep, I gave it another go a month ago and I'm not a fan. I've been on worse...but if they tear this down I won't be upset

  • @michaeltaylor1603
    @michaeltaylor1603 Жыл бұрын

    Maurer IS a work horse of a company. I enjoy riding them. Their booth at IAAPA Expo was always inviting. They had new lad bars they wanted me to try on a prototype that was on display.

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm excited to see if anyone else gives them a shot for some of their thrill coasters.

  • @BottedBlake
    @BottedBlake Жыл бұрын

    Glad that someones giving dragon's fury the credit it deserves! It goes well with Vampire, and will be a great supporting coaster for Mandrill Mayhem! Spinball is also great aswell and Slightly underrated. Unfortunately, I did not get to ride G-Force at Drayton Manor, I heard it was a snappy & forceful ride.

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    Dragon's Fury may still be the premier coaster there.

  • @BottedBlake

    @BottedBlake

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CanobieCoaster True

  • @jaditez
    @jaditez Жыл бұрын

    1:01 that transition looked so cool

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @StamfordBridge
    @StamfordBridge Жыл бұрын

    Now You See Me: High Roller at Motiongate is definitely the most insane spinning Maurer I’ve been on. The speed and scale of the drops is just not like any normal spinner. I also quite liked Insider at Wiener Prater. Had no idea the effects would be so intense.

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    That non-inverting loop looks cool on a spinner.

  • @mitchellries256
    @mitchellries256 Жыл бұрын

    So far I've only ridden two of their roller coasters; Phoenix at Adventureland Iowa and Hollywood Rip Ride Rock it at Universal Studios Florida. The latter is easily my favorite. I heard GeForce was removed from Drayton Manor because of maintenance and is currently stored in the Netherlands. I hope it gets an overhaul and finds a new home in that country because it looks like a very cool ride.

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see G Force come back as well.

  • @InfiniteFury2K
    @InfiniteFury2K10 ай бұрын

    Of the rides that Maurer did, I rode Dragon's Fury, Spinball Whizzer and Rattlesnake the most since I'm an Englishman. All good rides. I rode HRRR once and that was when I took a trip to Florida in 2011. If I go back, I need to give it another chance.

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    10 ай бұрын

    I really like Dragon's Fury in particular.

  • @mateoalvira3514
    @mateoalvira3514 Жыл бұрын

    Imagine the history of groups of enthusiasts who went to Bayern Park and rode Freischütz. Most who rode it would say: Freischütz is the roughest Maurer X Car coaster in the world. During the ride, the train rattled start to finish; but the lap bars prevented any headbanging. It was a bit tricky to marathon them from the rattling on Freischütz, because they gave... A) A fine ride B) A below average ride C) A great ride D) An awful ride E) A decent ride

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    I like Freischutz, but it is hard to marathon/reride.

  • @thereason9301
    @thereason9301 Жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate how often you put out new content. I really enjoy the top coasters by state videos. Thanks Canobie!

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you like them!

  • @cliquet3scliquet3s96
    @cliquet3scliquet3s967 ай бұрын

    Imagine riding again an intense one of a kind coaster from Maurer that Canobie Coaster would say: This is the world's only extended SkyLoop. The ride starts with a vertical chain lift with freaky hangtime, then you have a barrel roll with hangtime and laterals and a dive loop blasted with positive Gs. You then go an overbank that causes me to greyout, a camelback with strong ejector airtime, and a speed dip to the station with good floater airtime. But this ride does have two issues. One, the capacity. Two, there is a very noticeable shuffle on the pullout from the dive loop and first turn that caused me...

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    7 ай бұрын

    A headache.

  • @cliquet3scliquet3s96
    @cliquet3scliquet3s967 ай бұрын

    I also know a spinning coaster from Maurer, Canobie Coaster would say: This is a plussed coaster. For one, you have a fun little ride sequence at the start. This is a Disney coaster after all. Then the main layout has some fun music and psychedelic lighting effects, but not enough to reveal the full layout. This makes the ride extra disorienting. Despite having to operate at a higher capacity, this one is not braked too harshly so the spinning is very strong. Just beware the ride's queue line. What does that mean and what about the capacity? What do you think? A) capacity machine B) good capacity C) awful capacity

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    7 ай бұрын

    C

  • @Fox_on_a_Rollercoaster
    @Fox_on_a_Rollercoaster Жыл бұрын

    I've ridden the following in germany - The base wild mouse is a classic in germany. One showman on the oktoberfest has a mirrored second one standing side by side to increase capacity. Looks super massive. This one has the trims pretty much turned off. Quite a airtime pop on the small bunny hill and crazy laterals. - I've only ridden 3 (technically 2) spinning coasters. One standard SC2000 model (wich ran quite rough and punchy without trims) and the Winjas. Man Winjas at Phantasialand is something else. - Sky Dragster is a weird one for me. I love the open feeling of having just the seatbelt and I also love that airtime (hold the turbo button) you can get on the... idk is that a double up? The launch is surprisingly hard. What I don't like is the location. I visit this park often. It is a well known trip destination for schools and stuff like that. So it can get really crowded. This park is not known for it's high throughput rides and fast operations, so the Spike coaster was imo a bad installation. It also starts to run quite rough sometimes. - I love the Sky Loop. I rode the prototype one. The breaks aren't that bad if you lean fully back. What I don't like are the models wich didn't get the restrain upgrades. The prototype Sky Loop presses your lap bar further and further down. It's quite rough and the back, but I like rough rides. This one has got a big problem though: The breaks are failing a lot. - Freischütz is as I have mentioned in another video of yours one of my fav coasters ever. I grey out when going multiple times. Funny thing: After going about 30 times in a day on this coaster the hells bells were the only thing hurting a bit. Looking at Abismo makes me sad. This is what was promised when the prototype Sky Loop was announced for the Skylinepark. I really wanted this. Airtime is what south germany really needs. We have B&M Hyper at Europapark and Expedition Geforce at Holidaypark, but that's pretty much it when it comes to intense airtime coasters.

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    I've ridden that dueling model. It was a very strong mouse!

  • @Shockzone1495
    @Shockzone1495 Жыл бұрын

    I have to admit Hollywood Rip Ride Rocket is a pretty underrated coaster in my book. It's too bad that most enthusiast want this thing to be torn down and replaced which I get it yeah the ride maybe genki to some and outdated and yes it is a maintenance nightmare which is pretty concerning for it's future at the park. But for what it is a pretty unique ride experience you can't get from anywhere else.

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree, it is very unique.

  • @rollercoasterheaven2170
    @rollercoasterheaven2170 Жыл бұрын

    That Spike Coaster model will be pretty awesome

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    I hope so!

  • @dddyy
    @dddyy Жыл бұрын

    Nice video mate! I only rode Abismo in Madrid and I loved it!

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    Nice one!

  • @ThousanWhite
    @ThousanWhite Жыл бұрын

    I really enjoy HRRR as well. I feel like Universal Studios attract a large number of GP guests that may not necessarily be coaster enthusiasts and so they may not be accustomed to the style of intensity for such a ride. As a result, they could easily interpret the quick laterals, snapping inversions and speed hills as being "rough". The same type of feedback you often get from people that complain about Iron Gwazi or Steel Vengeance.

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    My fiancee sometimes likes Rockit. Other times she doesn't. For her, it's how much the train shakes.

  • @mateoalvira7826
    @mateoalvira78268 ай бұрын

    The restraints are the same on the Maurer SkyLoops and X Cars. They are lap bars that swirvel from the side, but...

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    8 ай бұрын

    Rest on your stomach.

  • @jonnopop
    @jonnopop7 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the video. I just started working on HRRR and was curious about what else maurer has out there. Lowkey disappointed that rockit is their best work but the gp definitely love it

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    7 ай бұрын

    I genuinely love the ride.

  • @maxhagenauer24
    @maxhagenauer24 Жыл бұрын

    Maurer coasters are just weird. The sky loop is such a strange unique type of ride. I'd say the most normal Maurer thrill coaster is HRRR which is still so unique. I know we probably won't see more things like that but HRRR was good aside from the million brakeruns. The Spikes are going to most likely be the new bog think imo. Venus GP is by far the best looking Maurer with its 5.2 Gs, I'm so glad it's moving to Himiji Central Park.

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm interested to see if the more intense spike coasters take off.

  • @supremefan
    @supremefan Жыл бұрын

    I do enjoy RRR a lot but sometimes it hurts my family jewels. I really think it depends on what train you get and possibly the seat, but no clue what ones are the good ones. It definitely has some forces most coasters don't anymore besides maybe The Hulk.

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    I think the specific train plays a big role how rough it is.

  • @SkeledroMan
    @SkeledroMan Жыл бұрын

    I would definitely put Dragon's Fury over Winjas. The layout is just a level above that of the prototype. You can tell that they had experimented and were willing to up the spinning and forces from Winjas. I'm always surprised by how much airtime the hill has, especially for a family coaster. The trick sections on winjas come across more as gimmicks after some rerides.

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    I prefer Winjas, but that's because I think the gimmicky elements are all super fun.

  • @zbfuller
    @zbfuller Жыл бұрын

    Just realized that one of the drops of a midcourse is steeper than the first drop.

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    On Rockit?

  • @zbfuller

    @zbfuller

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CanobieCoaster Yes, should of mentioned that lol

  • @stijnwigger
    @stijnwigger Жыл бұрын

    Hi Canobie Coaster. I like these countdown video’s very much. 😊 It is very interesting to see lesser known rollercoaster manufacturers. What coaster manufacturers are coming in the next video’s?

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    RMC

  • @stijnwigger

    @stijnwigger

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CanobieCoasterThat’s great 😊

  • @mateoalvira3514
    @mateoalvira3514 Жыл бұрын

    What do you think? Which one was the roughest of the Sky loop and X car coasters for you? Abismo at Parque de Atracciones de Madrid, Formule X at Drievliet, Freischütz at Bayern Park, X Coaster at Magic Springs, Shock at Magicland, or Hollywood Rip Ride Rockit at Universal Studios Florida?

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    The worst part about the Sky Loops is the final stop.

  • @m.hoffman2889
    @m.hoffman2889 Жыл бұрын

    love the Winjas

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    Me too.

  • @gemmachaos
    @gemmachaos Жыл бұрын

    I don't love the Maurer Wild Mice and Desmo Race remains one of the most baffling and inexplicable additions to any major theme park I can think of, but otherwise Maurer are solid. My faves are Dragon's Fury, Formule X and Winja's Fear. I've yet to try a Sky Loop.

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    Desmo Race puzzled me too. Besides the reliability, the capacity is awful for a park that large.

  • @TheNinjaDC
    @TheNinjaDC Жыл бұрын

    Maurer in a Nutshell: "They made HRRR." THOOSIE "Cool, something unique." "It's their best coaster. " THOOSE 😬 Maurer makes good Mice like rides (i put their spinners here too), but I just don't know why any park would pick them for a thrill coaster over Intamin, RMC, B&M, VEKOMA, Premier, Gerstlaur, Chance, S.S, or even Zamperla. Their problem is they seem to put too much focus on being unique over getting the fundamentals right first.

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm guessing cost is a reason they're more attractive for some smaller parks.

  • @cliquet3scliquet3s96
    @cliquet3scliquet3s967 ай бұрын

    An example of one is Abismo. Do you know what is that? What do you think? A) Parque Warner Madrid B) Parque de Atracciones de Madrid C) PortAventura

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    7 ай бұрын

    B

  • @mateoalvira7826
    @mateoalvira78268 ай бұрын

    Many people wish they would build more SkyLoop and X car coasters, and you?

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    8 ай бұрын

    I'd like to see more.

  • @Goliath146
    @Goliath14610 ай бұрын

    Their x-car model was probably their best model sadly it is not on their website anymore so they do not build it anymore :(

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    10 ай бұрын

    Oh no!

  • @Goliath146

    @Goliath146

    10 ай бұрын

    @@CanobieCoaster I was gonna ride Hollywood rip ride rockit but it unfortunately was broken down when I was there it was broken down for the whole day there and I was only there for one day

  • @DJWezzyK
    @DJWezzyK9 ай бұрын

    I prefer their droptowers (shot and drop). In case of the shot and drop, there are no better towers out there then the Maurers. Sadly, not one is operating anymore

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    9 ай бұрын

    Never rode one of those.

  • @shaodynasty1017
    @shaodynasty1017 Жыл бұрын

    Have you already made individual reviews for each one of these?

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    I put cards at the top during the video for the ones that I already made reviews for.

  • @mateoalvira3514
    @mateoalvira3514 Жыл бұрын

    Would you like to go again to Magicland and ride Cagliostro and Olandese Volante?

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes to Cagliostro.

  • @mateoalvira7826
    @mateoalvira7826 Жыл бұрын

    What do you think about freischütz at bayern park, smooth or rough? but why did you like it?

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    Bumpy but I like the ride.

  • @mateoalvira3514
    @mateoalvira3514 Жыл бұрын

    In the case of Crush's Coaster at Walt Disney Studios, why did you say: "Just beware this ride's queue line!"

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    It has awful capacity.

  • @mateoalvira7826
    @mateoalvira782611 ай бұрын

    rattling and vibration, are two types or roller coaster roughness, what are the differences between rattling and vibration?

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    11 ай бұрын

    They are similar.

  • @mateoalvira7826
    @mateoalvira78268 ай бұрын

    What do you prefer, lap bars that rest against your tummy, or lap bars that contour your lap?

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    8 ай бұрын

    Lap.

  • @AmazingElevatorsandClaws
    @AmazingElevatorsandClaws Жыл бұрын

    You should do a video like worst coasters from each manufacturer.

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe I can do that.

  • @AmazingElevatorsandClaws

    @AmazingElevatorsandClaws

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CanobieCoaster Awesome!

  • @mateoalvira3514
    @mateoalvira3514 Жыл бұрын

    Do you know any Maurer, Gerstlauer, Zamperla, S&S, Intamin, and Zierer coasters with shin guards?

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    There are too many coasters out there with shin guards to list them all.

  • @JulianDale94
    @JulianDale94 Жыл бұрын

    What song did you pick for #1 ?

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    Usually I use Stronger.

  • @BoyRoy18
    @BoyRoy18 Жыл бұрын

    im very sad... You forgot to mantion Hollenblitz on the German fair. Its the biggest traveling indoor coaster fild with awesome extra theming when its at the oktoberfest and always a awesome light show inside with fire balls at one point. Hollenblitz is the same model spinning coaster as Twistrix but way way bigger and very long trains

  • @WCfanboy

    @WCfanboy

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe he just hasn’t ridden it?

  • @BoyRoy18

    @BoyRoy18

    Жыл бұрын

    @@WCfanboy I was already thinking that ;) As i have ridden this one in full glory with 3 trains running, it has a soft spot in my heart :D

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    I like Hollenblitz. Is that one a Maurer? RCDB has it listed as Stein.

  • @haydnchan7880

    @haydnchan7880

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't think it is made by Maurer.

  • @BoyRoy18

    @BoyRoy18

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CanobieCoaster It was a colaberation from what I Know. Gerstlaur is maintaining it now, it also resently got updated to the newest norms. The trains ar from Maurer and i thing the track also but ist a bid of everything, just like EuroStar was on the german fair.

  • @ThrillsofColdplay
    @ThrillsofColdplay Жыл бұрын

    Not sure which of these Wild and Crazy Mouse Coasters I’ve ridden from this company

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    They have several.

  • @micoasters
    @micoasters Жыл бұрын

    If that overbank on shock wer on planet coaster the Peeps would say “power up 1 looks too intense for me”

  • @ShiningCoasters

    @ShiningCoasters

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    They sure would.

  • @TheOfficialSmudgy
    @TheOfficialSmudgy Жыл бұрын

    Maurer need something new, or big, they’re a great company but nothing really exciting, new or unique, I think they should follow in the footsteps of Gertslauher, going from spinners to intense looping coaster, I’m not saying Maurer is bad, I myself can’t wait to get on some X-cars, just most if its models are outdated, and the spike isn’t really going to help.

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    Their X-Car coasters have a lot of potential when smooth.

  • @TheOfficialSmudgy

    @TheOfficialSmudgy

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CanobieCoaster Yes but their capacity is limited, they need something with a bit more throughout, although I cannot wait to get on some X-cars

  • @cliquet3scliquet3s96
    @cliquet3scliquet3s9610 ай бұрын

    If I ask you: Just beware this ride's queue line. What does that mean?

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    10 ай бұрын

    Bad wait/capacity.

  • @mateoalvira3514
    @mateoalvira3514 Жыл бұрын

    Would you like to go again to Parque de Atracciones de Madrid?

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @mateoalvira3514
    @mateoalvira351411 ай бұрын

    Are or were there any Maurer coasters with shin guards in the world?

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    11 ай бұрын

    Probably

  • @mateoalvira7826
    @mateoalvira7826 Жыл бұрын

    Would you like to go again to linnanmäki and ride salama and tulireki?

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    I'd ride Salama again.

  • @cliquet3scliquet3s96
    @cliquet3scliquet3s967 ай бұрын

    Do you know the spinning coaster from Maurer I was describing?

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    7 ай бұрын

    Crush's Coaster

  • @cliquet3scliquet3s96
    @cliquet3scliquet3s967 ай бұрын

    How many Maurer coasters do you know that cause or caused you a headache? Examples:

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    7 ай бұрын

    Don't have an exact number. An example of one is Abismo.

  • @mateoalvira7826
    @mateoalvira7826 Жыл бұрын

    What was the worst coaster for you in the world? Spinning coasters?

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    Coaster Express is the worst coaster.

  • @cliquet3scliquet3s96
    @cliquet3scliquet3s967 ай бұрын

    How many Maurer coasters did you cause a headache? Examples:

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    7 ай бұрын

    A few do. Abismo is one that can.

  • @mateoalvira3514
    @mateoalvira3514 Жыл бұрын

    Do you know a Maurer SkyLoop in Australia? Would you like to ride it there? Do you like all of it?

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, I know of Project Zero. I would ride it.

  • @mateoalvira7826
    @mateoalvira78268 ай бұрын

    Gut punch, what does that mean?

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    8 ай бұрын

    A hit to the stomach.

  • @cliquet3scliquet3s96
    @cliquet3scliquet3s967 ай бұрын

    The worst Maurer coaster you've ever ridden was...

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    6 ай бұрын

    Probably one of their wild mice, but none are particularly bad.

  • @bunobeatz5737
    @bunobeatz573716 күн бұрын

    Rip ride rockit had gotten really bad. The shaking of the cars is unbearable now. It is riding terribly.

  • @CanobieCoaster

    @CanobieCoaster

    16 күн бұрын

    I have never had an issue with it.

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