Watchmojo: Internal saves? Forget about it! It's 1986! Me: But Zelda came before Metroid...

@SatoshiMatrix1

9 жыл бұрын

Tucker Stackow Also, wrong on two counts. Metroid was released in 1986, but for the Famicom Disk System in Japan. Where it _did_ have saves right to the diskette. WatchMojo is talking about the NES release which did not have saves and instead used a password system, which was released in mid 1987. So they are half wrong about the year and about it not having saves depending on how you look at it.

@johnfakename1178

9 жыл бұрын

Satoshi Matrix Ah, intriguing.

@NightOfTheLiving8bit

9 жыл бұрын

That's most likely because the people who made this video, weren't even alive in the 80's. AKA no real concept of how games actually were, therefore making a proper "poorly aged" list, is impossible without being 100% subjective. I can think of 50 games right now that aged worse than all of these games combined.

@The_Voluptuary

9 жыл бұрын

Eric Durant You're basing all of what you just said on a "most likely". And even if it were true, it isn't very difficult to find and play these games to _become_ 100% subjective.

@TechnologicallyTechnical

9 жыл бұрын

Surprised doom wasnt mentioned

Wasn't GoldenEye on Watchmojo's list for Greatest video games of all time?

@trulynotChinmay

9 жыл бұрын

Diandra R World's full of hypocrites i guess ,-,

@nothingmusic42

9 жыл бұрын

Diandra R it can be both: one of the greatest games ever, but aged very terribly.

@lopez21aaa

9 жыл бұрын

Just cause it didn't age well doesn't mean it one of the greatest. Aged well focuses on graphics and controls. Nothing else

@artheaux666

9 жыл бұрын

Diandra R notChinmay Someone must have skipped the first whole minute WHEN HE EXPLAINED IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE BAD. To age badly is to not be up to par with todays standards of HD video games. Pay attention!

@badass6300

9 жыл бұрын

Diandra R these are games that aged badly, not bad games....

Silent Hill 1 is amazing! And the fog is super eerie...

@Iruparazzo

8 жыл бұрын

+blinkycab srsly, it's still a very popular game, especially thanks to emulators

@Graham-in4hw

8 жыл бұрын

the game just looks soo dark and scary sometimes

@metalphoenix4244

8 жыл бұрын

that's because it is a survival horror game

@semvision

7 жыл бұрын

Nope, it is very silly especially compared to the second game.

@user-cg6ri8ov2r

7 жыл бұрын

10. at least it was good 9. so much for 2D 8. defanatly 7. I love that game 6. that's awsome 5. yeah but its great 4. not bad 3. defanatly 2. I hate that game 1. best game ever

A lot of people don't understand this list. Saying a game aged poorly doesn't mean to say that it's bad, it just means that developments within the industry mean that it's not as mind-blowing now as it was when it was released. I still play GTA III from time to time and find it fun to play, but I still acknowledge that it certainly hasn't aged like wine. It was already looking dated when Vice City launched a year later, it was practically prehistoric by the time San Andreas launched, and comparing it to GTA V is like comparing a GameBoy to PS Vita.

@chesspunk489

5 жыл бұрын

I think most people do understand what the list was trying to go for. However, saying that a game has aged poorly is a subjective opinion. Many people don't share the same opinion as watch mojo so they feel the need to speak out.

@pow9606

5 жыл бұрын

To me aged poorly means = compared to other games of the time that are still a pleasure to play these games are no longer worth playing. Possibly that I or we were blinded by graphics, hype or sales tactics of the time and upon reflection were badly mistaken.

@mazengwe28

5 жыл бұрын

But picking games that were a first in a series doesn't really make sense because the sequels improved on the orignals in most of the cases. So to say that the original game didn't age well is disingenuous. For example, after playing Mortal Kombat 2 or 3 made it hard to come back to part one because of how limited it is when you go back to it. ex.. 1 fatality and 2 special moves per character vs. double or triple the amount in the subsequent games. If this is the criteria, then you could add a lot more games to the list that were a first in the series, that after 2 or 3 iterations of it, the orignal is now antiquated.

"Saving? Forget it! This is 1986!" But... the Legend of Zelda...

@ostrichesandgin8570

8 жыл бұрын

that was 87

@TheMarioDude1

8 жыл бұрын

+Sunderland Gaming Actually, it was early 86 in Japan I believe :p

@ostrichesandgin8570

8 жыл бұрын

+TheMarioDude1 that was on the disc system though

@effefeefef7704

8 жыл бұрын

The American release was in 86.

@Horzuhammer

8 жыл бұрын

+SebastianTheGreat Japanese release of Metroid had saves.

"ambiguous puzzles" had nothing to do with age. You're basically saying the puzzles are too hard. Most developers today treat gamers like dimwits. Big fat arrows on screen showing where to go at all times for example. Hardest puzzles today are where you find a big cilinder shaped key, and 5 minutes later you find a door with a square shaped hole and one with a cilinder shaped hole. Thankfully some developers still expect gamers to figure out stuff for themselves and figure out what's happening by using cryptic details and their imagination. You know what game I'm talking about here. Any other modern games do this? I'm curious.

@CeetjeBeetje

9 жыл бұрын

Top 10 games that don't treat gamers like morons :)

@ensulalachance8353

9 жыл бұрын

CeetjeBeetje I agree with you 100%. I think the best games are the ones that balance puzzles and action, but it seems like so many recent games dont have enough puzzles

@florakelly170

9 жыл бұрын

CeetjeBeetje Have you overtired collecting all of the Riddler Trophies in Batman: Arkham City? Did you ever try completing every badass rank in Borderlands 2?

@kyuven

9 жыл бұрын

CeetjeBeetje There's a difference between games that challenge the player with puzzles that test their wits, and puzzles that test their patience. While the latter is still common today, it's less so now that certain gameplay elements such as in-game maps, checkpoints, and internalized checklists have become standard. Basically, anti-frustration features. When creating puzzles, you need to answer one important question to determine if your puzzle is hard, or just cruel: "With the clues and tools present in game, is the player able to figure out the solution?" Requiring the player to do homework to figure out how to progress further in the game is a good way to lose their attention, so balancing "frustrating" with "difficult" becomes key. And then there's the whole can of worms of 90s Moon-logic puzzles that cropped up due to a combination of developers running out of new ideas and limitations on game systems.

@Morgan-jy7qo

9 жыл бұрын

Every single Zelda game, ever. Even Ss

Most of these games are still great to play. This list is ridiculous.

@T00DEEPBLUE

8 жыл бұрын

+Old Skool Wax Like so many kids that have watched this video, you've missed the point. Nobody is saying those games are bad. But rather that the visuals and gameplay mechanics are dated compared to modern standards. As a matter of fact, there is nothing wrong with that criticism. But nostalgia basically means that any form of criticism, no matter how valid it is, is going to create a lot of butthurt.

@HighSockDavid

3 жыл бұрын

I mean any video game because outdated with time

@thetwopunchman6113

2 жыл бұрын

Gta 3? Metroid? Ff7? Crash? Golden eye? I'm sorry but i don't agree with the list either

@vulcanraven9701

2 жыл бұрын

@@thetwopunchman6113 They haven't aged well when compared to modern standards. For example, most FPS use two analogs and Goldeneye is awkward for newer gens. Also early 3D games aged bad. Metroid is good but most games now use Maps and don't rely on password codes

If you can't go back and enjoy older games just because you've played newer ones then that just sucks for you. I love retro gaming.

Crash Bandicoot and GTAIII have aged like fine wine. On the other hand, Oblivion has aged like milk.

@AmazingJoe96

9 жыл бұрын

Samniss Arandeen totally agree

@wolvesleather

9 жыл бұрын

Samniss Arandeen I never played Crash Bandicoot but GTA 3 hasn't aged that well. Oblivion has aged well.

@SamnissArandeen

9 жыл бұрын

wolvesleather I honestly can't agree with your Oblivion statement after all the times I've talked to an NPC only to have the camera forcibly zoom in on those overly shiny, chubby faces with zombie eyes. At least it was better than Morrowind (talk about horrible aging) and its origami stick-figure residents. Who turned Vivec City into Silent Hill? Spending half the game walking around was bad enough even before realizing the horrible fog made it impossible to get my bearings. Metroid Prime was released the same year as Morrowind, on Gamecube no less, and to this day still looks amazing.

@Bourikii2992

9 жыл бұрын

Samniss Arandeen GTA 3 is horrible. Crash bandicoot is still good and oblivion is amazing still. The detail in a lot of the textures isn't that bad and just throwing on a simple lighting mod makes it look better than skyrim and for that matter there's full model re-placers for much better characters and bam you have skyrim but a million times more fun and less gray.

@Bourikii2992

9 жыл бұрын

john129flip No skyrims graphics are horrendous. The textures hold 0 detail and are super murky even on PC. The only thing they have that's better is Character models but that can be fixed in oblivion. Also modded oblivion > modded skyrim.

This should be titled, "Awesome Groundbreaking Games."

@t4k3y0ur5hirtoff

8 жыл бұрын

+digiprez77 ....That look like shite.

@bokunorainbow58

8 жыл бұрын

+digiprez77 one of the requirements was that the game was well recieved

@philwilson4167

8 жыл бұрын

+Son of the south Name one game from 10, 15, 20 years ago that doesn't look like shite now.

@Yshtola.

8 жыл бұрын

+digiprez77 at the time... now they're irrelevant garbage

@AwesomeSpidey22

8 жыл бұрын

+phil wilson Zelda Wind Waker

I played silent hill recently and it's aged really well in my opinion... I had no issues.

Crash bandicoot? Are you fucking kidding me?

@sushiSlayr

8 жыл бұрын

That was a surprise to me as well. While the controls aren't that tight, and the game isn't quite beginner-friendly (limited saves, passwords, etc.), it's aged pretty well compared to the rest of the games on the list.

@julesf.meloborges811

7 жыл бұрын

The 2th one holds. The 1th is just clunky and ugly.

@oposx132

7 жыл бұрын

The 1st is great imo

@carmage8181

7 жыл бұрын

It certainly is. That fact that most of the game still holds up is probably why it's just an honorable mention and not on the list. The 1st game was the only one without analog support, which was a problem with the boulder levels. You had to keep jumping in order to move diagonally. I'm guessing that's the main reason they mentioned the game at all, as there is nothing wrong with the graphics, and the rest of the game holds up fine.

@supervideogamer3607

6 жыл бұрын

I know right that was fucking suprising

*sees Crash Bandicoot in the intro* *closes tab*

@pokeplayer771

9 жыл бұрын

TheMadisonMachine I had a similar reaction... I don't get why it was even an honorable mention, it couldn't be the gameplay, as that has aged wonderfully. It couldn't have been on there because of its graphics as they aren't as bad as a lot of other classic, old games.( For example. Mario 64, Mario Kart 64, Smash 64. This isn't saying that any of the aforemntioned games are bad, just that they had arguably worse graphics than Crash Bandicoot.)

@TheMadisonMachine

9 жыл бұрын

Pokeplayer I really don't get why it was there either! I have 1, 2, and CTR on my ps3 and they really do hold up. A friend of my mom's has a 10 year old, and he really liked 2. The gameplay is still fresh, and some of the later levels of each game still hold some challenge in them, even though I've played them all over and over. Crash 2 really has amazing graphics, due to the art style, AND the soundtrack, while definitely dated, is still really well written. (Thanks, Mark Mothersbaugh!)

@TheMadisonMachine

9 жыл бұрын

PSXE is a decent emulator, but you gotta get the plugins and stuff separately and install them, which is a pain. I accidentally broke it, and have been procrastinating fixing it ever since.

@TheMadisonMachine

9 жыл бұрын

Nah, it worked for me for a few years, and then I did something, but I don't know what exactly, and I'm too lazy to figure it out. Doesn't matter, I can play the PS1 games I really want on my PS3.

@JeiJohnson

9 жыл бұрын

TheMadisonMachine I thought the same way when I saw Sonic Adventure and Sonic Adventure 2 Battle in the introduction.

So basicly old graphics = bad game.

@nachum0041

8 жыл бұрын

+lance1499 Except thats literally what this video is about. Claiming these games don't hold up anymore.

@discoder

8 жыл бұрын

+Laatikkomafia I do agree with the clunky controls of the likes of Virtua Fighter and Mortal Kombat, but there's no excuse for putting Final Fantasy VII on this list, as it still plays superbly.

@discoder

8 жыл бұрын

***** I dunno, much as I actually enjoy Final Fantasy VIII, much of its gameplay involves drawing magic from enemies, which can slow the pacing down and the Triple Triad game can get frustrating at times. On the other hand, I enjoyed the character dynamic around Laguna, Kiros and Ward. The material system of VII allows for great customisation of character abilities. I'm back playing VII again and I still find that the gameplay is still fun. But that's my opinion.

@discoder

8 жыл бұрын

***** Fair enough. I just found that the Triple Triad game could be an exercise in frustration, especially when gunning for Laguna's card, which was the only one that was really needed to beat the game.

@edsheeransdad9985

8 жыл бұрын

+Nachum00 It's because they don't.

FF7 never ages, I can still play it today.

Too much focus on graphics and technical limitations. Would have been better if focused more around the gameplay and contents. Thumbed up for the interesting topic, but could have been better. I have a feeling that the creator of this video is a largely modern FPS player.

@tylorg7971

7 жыл бұрын

The thing is, the focus was not on the games' gameplay and/or contents because as he said, the games were not bad games. The games were fun back in the day, and surely they would be 'fun' today. Though, because of those technical limitations, they aged badly in terms of the graphics and controls. Today's games are often more fluid and more immersive because of how much the graphics have improved. If the games were remastered, they would be more fun for today's generation, because of how used to we are to good graphics and fluid mechanics. Nostalgia aside, these games did not age well.

@aquamentus8951

7 жыл бұрын

This is gaming nowadays dude. Only graphics matters

@eugeneharvey9953

7 жыл бұрын

right Googlia I agree

@user-ms7ez6tu7b

6 жыл бұрын

Millennials are just dumb

@lecorbak

6 жыл бұрын

" the games were not bad games" mortal kombat is not a bad game ? what have you smoke ?

Top KZread Channel That Has Aged Badly 1. WatchMojo.com

@64andy8

9 жыл бұрын

***** No, actually, I'm pissed off because this video is basically "Hey, we'll take old games that were made before even the PS2, and say they look terrible. Then we will choose only popular games to spark controversy and get lots of money!!1one1" But on their Aged Well list, they said Tetris has aged the best?!

@MrBannystar

9 жыл бұрын

***** You asked 'Why do people even care?' So....why do you care if he's butthurt or not? As you said, who cares? And why do people say butthurt? I see no end of idiots defending videos like this from other channels too. Sounds like you're BUTTHURT that he disagreed with this list.....

@haydenrobert9587

9 жыл бұрын

MrBannystar Wow...

@djugel

9 жыл бұрын

***** then why make a list? Please don't use the term butthurt... it's not dating well..

@cupriferouscatalyst3708

9 жыл бұрын

Andrew Hall the games that are mentioned all looked worse than other games of its time

silent hill 1 aged pretty well imo.. this is the first watchmojo list where I disagree with practically the whole list lol

@injoniac

8 жыл бұрын

well besides virtua fighter 1...that game is poopy

@Draftgon

8 жыл бұрын

Star fox on SNES is a chore to just even look at.

@terminaldeity

8 жыл бұрын

+Metalchrome Silent Hill 2 has aged pretty well. The first one, not so much.

@WolfySnackrib666

8 жыл бұрын

+Metalchrome Well, most lists WatchMojo makes are completely amateurish with very little enthusiasm going into making them. They're just whoring ratings. They have more mistakes in their lists than can be counted, and yes I mean literal mistakes. Like mistaking Sallah in Indiana Jones with one of the villains that melt. That is a non trivial error.

@nhdaniele

8 жыл бұрын

+terminaldeity Silent Hill is still scary as hell, so aged very well

7:37 GTA III may have aged badly, but the hilarious death screams haven't

Mortal Kombat!? Metroid!? Starfox!? Silent Hill!!? What is this, insaneville population Watchmojo?!

@themillsinator8319

7 жыл бұрын

They aren't denying that these games were great for their time, but if you released any of these games today, they would be universally hated. That's what it means for something to age badly.

@MovieEnvy

7 жыл бұрын

Its not like they said they were bad games. Do you really think Mortal Kombat looks good? It was passable when it came out and looks only slightly better then Pit Fighter at this point.

@PokeJediTrek

7 жыл бұрын

That's because these games are good, but they really, really show their age.

@brodown64

7 жыл бұрын

just watch projared he wants every good video game to be bad

@ewanphilip5604

7 жыл бұрын

I feel like any mode 7 snes game has aged terribly just because the graphics are just not good anymore. Also Metroid was WAY outclassed by it's Gameboy sequel. Don't worry, I'm not defending watchmojo, MK should NOT have been here and I don't know how the others play but they don't look that bad.

I really don't got it the point of this video...

@Nionivek

8 жыл бұрын

+ELVISFX Click bait... Outright click bait.

@nowdied

8 жыл бұрын

+Nionivek Clickbait....on....a list....the fuck?

@Nionivek

8 жыл бұрын

nowdied Click bait is when a video is created mostly to generate views by being incredibly attractive but without the quality to back it up. Think of if I made a video called "The secret Obama doesn't want you to know" and then just talk about Medicare.

@MarkusReese

8 жыл бұрын

+ELVISFX and to the others, I didn't think it was really that click bait... Purpose of it really was what games were absolute top end winners when they came out, but if we play them today, we hate them. Many of these games were like that. There are a good many classics I still play going all the way through to some of the first NES games and early computer games before that. Goldeneye and resident evil for example from this vid fit perfectly for what they are trying to say. Who knows how much I played these when they came out? But now, the controls and cheesiness is apparent. Little to no enjoyment is felt. FF7 I did not agree with. The scenes, music and story are still very well done and moving. Most players don't even notice or care about the model differences and primitiveness. the cutesy/quirky non combat/cinematic style actually adds a bit of fun to it and mood.

@JoEClove

8 жыл бұрын

+MarkusReese Speaking of cheesy..what about Duke Nukem..

Argue with me, kill me with fire, but Crash Bandicoot (1996) is still looks pretty nice. In fact, all of these games look good, just, we have become accustomed to the modern games.

@Xyele

9 жыл бұрын

Leo Rack Crash Bandicoot was on the list for it's shitty save system probably, not its graphics

@LeoRack

9 жыл бұрын

Death the _id So, if Crash even has this, it doesn't mean, that game itself "aged". In other aspects, the game is good

@LeoRack

9 жыл бұрын

Brandon Roberts I know that

@TheDuckClock

9 жыл бұрын

Brandon Roberts That didn't stop Metroid from making the list.

@TakRan33

9 жыл бұрын

Nah that game looked bad the second crash 2 came out

While I agree visually these games have aged badly, most of these are still great games. I felt damn near insulted when he said there is no reason to play the original Resident Evil with the remake out. Yes, the remake is amazing, but still has no real reason to just say, "Eh, original isn't worth playing." Bull.

@ljiljanatalijanac-matanovi2532

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly thats like saying old star wars sucks cuz we have new ones makes no sense

@Aries0098

4 жыл бұрын

It's true though. Mechanically, by today's standards, it's just bad.

Goldeneye 007 is a video game that hasn't aged well, yet it was #10 on your top 10 video games of all time. That doesn't make any sense.

@None-lx8kj

7 жыл бұрын

Yes it does.

@1986Martinez

7 жыл бұрын

None How?

@ardipithecusramidus7593

7 жыл бұрын

"of all time'" "hasn't aged well" "Hasn't aged well" doesn't necessarily mean a game is bad, either, just... put yourself in the shoes of some kid who has grown up on things like Call of Duty - now imagine that kid playing Goldeneye 007 for the first time. That kid's probably gonna think it's shit.

@ardipithecusramidus7593

7 жыл бұрын

I don't agree with that kid, but Watchmojo is definitely accounting for generation gaps here, I think.

@1986Martinez

7 жыл бұрын

Iracundus Fabularum Which kid?

GTA 3 holds up pretty well. NYC really is that grey.

@pizzaiolom

9 жыл бұрын

Floydthefuckbag lol they should update this video because your point is really strong

@Floydthefuckbag

9 жыл бұрын

***** Still just sounds like New York to me.

@CharlieBrown-gb2wx

9 жыл бұрын

Tomb Raider should have been number 1. The controls and movement were TERRIBLE.

@MrYuleyule

9 жыл бұрын

Floydthefuckbag Was just about to post the very same thing. Its still my favorite gta title

@Ryleeman54number2

9 жыл бұрын

***** If graphics dont matter at all go play Bubsy 3D

Shows Sonic..but doesn't give Sonic a spot.

@Floydthefuckbag

9 жыл бұрын

PkmnTrainerMario The good sonic games hold up well and the shitty sonic games always sucked.

@SARYM911

9 жыл бұрын

PkmnTrainerMario That's the entire point..Why do people expect the things that are shown in the beginning to be in the countdown?Mostly these are the things that were close to being in the list but missed out..So they show a few seconds of the things that were at least in contention and making it clear that they didn't forget about it.

@Charizarzar

9 жыл бұрын

PkmnTrainerMario Watchmojo are obsessed with Sonic. (And Mario)

@Charizarzar

9 жыл бұрын

SolidSanics I always see Sonic on their lists, they're more obsessed with Zelda and Mario though.

@Wingo537

9 жыл бұрын

PkmnTrainerMario they do that on all there videos

I'll play 007 still to this day over BO3.

how dare you diss star fox

This is literally just "Top 10 games that were well received but have bad graphics by today's standards"

@MisterMojoYT

9 жыл бұрын

Antony Taylor Part of the rules was that it had to be well received. What's the point of a list of 10 obscure games when that isn't what they're talking about?

@kathic6402

9 жыл бұрын

Antony Taylor It isn't just graphics, its game play too.

@MsHojat

9 жыл бұрын

Antony Taylor no, although it does contribute to many of them. Metroid's issue was with saves and map. GoldenEye had weird animation and bad controls. Silent Hill and Resident Evil had those nasty static cameras, as well as other faults.

@troyundroy1

9 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. Also, to really judge how an old game ages, you'd have to still have your NES/PS1/Megadrive etc still attached to an old-school Non-HD TV today, and totally ignore leaps in technology/graphics that have happened since.

@Bourikii2992

9 жыл бұрын

Kathic Except most of these games don't play that bad some they put up did and others still play very well. Like final fantasy that plays amazing still, crash bandicoot does, thief does, tomb raider looks like it still played well enough.

top 10 KZread channels that aged badly number one spot - WatchMojo

@jc8322

8 жыл бұрын

+Johnny the Mysterious Wanderer It's because they've run out of ideas

@FaumauNZ

8 жыл бұрын

Sass

@KevofThes

8 жыл бұрын

+Jamus C Wouldn't it be amazing if WatchMojo uploaded a top 10 WatchMojo's? Haha

@capcom23

8 жыл бұрын

+Fernando Guerrero (Johnny) nuff said

@MDCYouTube

8 жыл бұрын

Agree

Yeah, I tried to fire up Goldeneye with my friends a few months back. That was pretty rough after playing Call of Duty and Battlefield for years. Crash Bandicoot doesn't even belong in the honorable mentions though. That game is still as much fun today as it ever was.

@johnanth

8 жыл бұрын

The original Crash has a really punishing and kinda unfun save system, as well as par-for-the-course (of the time) level design. Crash 2 and Warped are superb though. Agreed also on GoldenEye, going back to it shattered my nostalgia. I still think modern shooters should have more multiplayer options though, like GoldenEye did to mix things up.

The name of this video should be " top 10 Timeless Games".

Yeah, I think this list is totally subjective.

@slhoffman8

9 жыл бұрын

Devoted Defender All top ten lists usually are.

@hamborghiniii

9 жыл бұрын

Isn't pretty much the entirety of their channel?

@familydude-lq7ec

9 жыл бұрын

***** Douche was joking smh...

@KingShadowOmega

9 жыл бұрын

Devoted Defender Well of course it's subjective, but I completely agree with most of this list. I immediately thought of FF7 when I clicked this video, but I didn't think WatchMojo would have the balls to list it. Most of the games on this list I've thought didn't age so well. The only ones I wasn't too keen on was Metroid and Mortal Kombat (moreso Metroid), as I believe 2D games tend to age FAR FAR better than 3D games, especially early 3D games.

@mnmmcg3543

9 жыл бұрын

Lee Tsabiras Exactly! That's the primary reason why I think ALTTP is a much better zelda game and game overall than OoT.

I think Silent Hill is due for a remake with better graphics. That would be so cool.

@brummie

9 жыл бұрын

It has been not to long ago. Silent hill hd collection. Think it is 1 2 and 3

@catinabox2878

9 жыл бұрын

CARRNAGE I didn't know that. I'll have a look out for them. Thanks.

@kingoftehwalrus77

9 жыл бұрын

No! The HD collection is terrible! Don't play it! *reaches out in slow motion to stop him*

@underiraq

9 жыл бұрын

Roger Haywood They released an HD version that's riddled with bugs. I don't foresee many Silent Hills in the future either. Thanks Konami

@3dmarth

9 жыл бұрын

Roger Haywood There was Shattered Memories, but I guess that was too much of an overhaul to be considered a remake? And yeah, there's an HD collection, but it just has poor ports of 2 and 3 (no 1), and the graphics are unimproved (just rendered in 720p). You *can* use an emulator to play the original (from a file or from the PS1 disc) in HD, however. You can add texture filtering to reduce the pixelation, and the "PCSXR" emulator even lets you tone down the PS1's inherent shaky polygons.

Okay, Metroid is and will always be awesome.

Final Fantasy 8 is first game in the series to use photo-realistic models outside of battle. That is the game that aged well and should thanked for introducing this idea.

Why do I feel that almost no one in the comments understood what this list is about?

@AndyStriker13LP

8 жыл бұрын

+TiodaniPKM simple, nostalgia

@thetruebause3122

8 жыл бұрын

+TiodaniPKM If the title was "Top 10 games that show their age" it'd make sense. This specifically is about them aging badly and the argument for almost every game is mostly graphics. It'[s a pretty god awful list

@TiodaniPKM

8 жыл бұрын

+TheTRUE BAUSE I agree that they talk a bit too much about graphics, but the comments about other dated aspects (like the lack of map in Metroid and the bad voice acting in RE) are still valid. Goldeneye, for example: although it could be called innovative at its time, it got completely outdated after Perfect Dark, that has its same qualities, but with a lot more content (but also has the awful framerate and controls for today's standards, although the N64 controller is more to blame than the game itself)

@NewFriiiikan

8 жыл бұрын

+TiodaniPKM How can a game age badly? Specifically these games? Aging badly would be several sequels looking worse than the original imo. Who would be dense enough to compare new generation games to ones made in 1996 (RE for example)?

@TiodaniPKM

8 жыл бұрын

A game that aged badly is one that that have flaws or gameplay aspects that were overlooked or considered normal at their time, but would not be tolerated today. Graphics can also contribute to show a game's age (one of the reasons why early 3D games are said to age worse than 2D games), but graphics alone doesn't matter too much. An example of a game that hasn't aged at all for me is Super Mario World: it still has super responsive controls, good visuals, good amount of content, and still offers a great and fair challenge. It could have been released today as an Indie game and anyone could have a blast playing it, unlike, for example, Doom, that, although being one of my favorite games, wouldn't please someone playing it for the first time today as much as it pleased 20 years ago, since modern FPS players don't have the patience to deal with the maze-like design of the levels, having to search for keys, and stuff (not to mention that it only used keyboard controls, while everyone today is used to mouse + keyboard for FPS)

Also, so many salty fanboys in the comment section. "FFVII's graphics haven't aged well" "WHAT DO YOU MEAN FFVII IS SHIT FITE ME IRL"

@iovandrake

9 жыл бұрын

***** "Doesn't hold up well" is a stupid thing to say. The games haven't changed. Your perception of them is different than when the games came out. People loved these games when they came out. They saw the charm in the awkward 3d block hands (chibi sprites on the SNES weren't any better in that regard.) The difference is that you hold it to a higher standard subconsciously. The problem is your own vision. This is why people who have played a game for more than a decade (like FFVII) don't see it the same way people who have mostly played modern games. They don't nitpick the graphics. They are able to be immersed by them to a large enough degree to waste many hours playing. Graphics should never be part of the "hasn't aged well" category. Graphics like art do not have an expiration date. It's a shallow consumer mentality to treat them like they do. Gameplay and frustration should be the only things to consider, and even those just point out how babied current gamers are with their piss easy games.

@raulrojas9253

9 жыл бұрын

iovandrake i agree with you in almost everything you say, but i disagree in the regards of FF VII blocky ugly look, its not great now, sure i can play the game with no problem because i played the heck a lot of that one game but it has age poorly atleast in the character blocky look, the background looks good and the music is still good, the gameplay is still fun and the story is still great. Look Sprites age better than 3d ugly polygons, why do you think almost no one complains about chrono trigger, perhaps the best JRPG of all time? Because it does everything almost perfect. ( well for me is not that great but i have to admit that the game was a Blast to play, sadly it took me 20 years to give it a try)

@iovandrake

9 жыл бұрын

Sprites "age better" (getting sick of this notion, they don't age, they are inanimate objects with digital data on them, YOU AGE) because they are more like a cartoon. They are not representing a 3D space to you. This tricks your brain which is used to cartoon like art into finding it acceptable. The closer to the quality of cartoon/animation the sprites are the better your ability to accept it. A 3D image though is moving into the realm of what you see around you with your eyes in reality. Which raises the bar substantially for 3D polygonal images. What's different between FFVII's characters vs FFVI's? They both have deformed bodies with exaggerated or cutesy bodies. They both have simple color schemes. They both represent bodies in similar ways. Lastly they both have higher detailed versions of the characters in battle as compared to out of battle. With all these similarities what's the difference? The difference is that you view FFVI as a cartoon and you view FFVII as a virtual reality that is failing to live up to your standards for virtual reality. What's ironic about this whole thing is that I know a LOT of people who would consider FFVI to have "aged poorly" as well. Simply because it isn't 3D, has slow plodding action, static enemies in battles, and a plethora of other reasons. I don't agree with them (I play games that don't even have any graphics at all), but that's the way perception works. You perceive FFVI's graphics to be good. They do not. You perceive FFVII's blocky characters to be bad. I do not. Perception, not imaginary expiration dates. For that matter people joked about FFVII's blocky characters when it first came out. There was no age necessary. It all depended on perception.

@iovandrake

9 жыл бұрын

I don't prefer them, but I have enough of an imagination to not be bothered by them. That'd the difference I was trying to explain. Perception makes the difference in how you view different visuals. As far as nostalgia I've never heard ANY Final Fantasy VII fan say "man I sure love the way those blocky characters look, I'm glad they don't look real." It isn't nostalgia making them like the characters, it is them liking the game that makes the look of the characters not matter. That player sees them more as characters/people in a story than block things. Their immersion is deeper and thus their perception of the way it looks is different. Are they ugly as far as representations of people? Sure. As far as stylized representations of characters in a fictional story? Their look is serviceable.

@Caffin8tor

9 жыл бұрын

SuperLlama42 FF7's graphics are shit. Especially considering that the PS1 was capable of better models as seen during the battle sequences. Fortunately, for PC users, there are a number of mods that put better models in making the game look way better. This is from someone that considers FF7 and Chrono Trigger to be the best RPGs ever.

A lot of these games have aged good

i guess people in the comments don't quite get the meaning of 'aging badly'

@katherinetyler5543

5 жыл бұрын

Doesn't seem so.

@Grandtheftauto1998

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

YOu'll spend most of your time looking at gray roads and buildings. Immediately transitions to road by the lake with grass. Great editing, guys.

@kristofferstorage19

8 жыл бұрын

+pseudohippie55 lol

@demuzn3649

8 жыл бұрын

"Bland textures" This game has some nice textures and fine rendering effects!

@simonjenkin

8 жыл бұрын

+pseudohippie55 also, it's like, yeah, that's what being in a city is like. A lot of grey roads and buildings.

@extremelypessimistic1977

8 жыл бұрын

+Demuzn The Textures are 8 bit and have a very low resolution they are definetly not nice

@JBrothersz

8 жыл бұрын

+pseudohippie55 For the lazy people out there: 7:40

What!? "The controls were clunky"? Did you even play Mortal Kombat?

Do you agree with our list? "My answer: No." Penalising games because of their era of release and limitations of technology is a cheap shot. I'll accept that some games are difficult to play today (I'm looking at you early PS/N64 titles), but good game design outweighs this in a lot of circumstances. I can STILL pick up Starfox today and find it incredibly playable.

@Tsoldier4

8 жыл бұрын

Now I don't agree with everything on this list, but many of them are spot on. For a game to truly age well, it has to be timeless. "Playable" just isn't going to cut it if you're building a true list. Look at the early iterations of Halo, Counter strike, COD, and Half Life. They're all over a decade old as well.

@justthatguy9077

6 жыл бұрын

the days where fps games mechanics gotten easy to do. the games had to be pinpoint perfect to not that technical issues like the earlier 3d games, which were bad from it's time and that alone doesn't make me say this annoying recurring terrible argument 'don't age well'.

@fuckgoogle8857

5 жыл бұрын

Still play golden eye and star fox often never gonna get tired of the classics

@mazengwe28

5 жыл бұрын

Also, how are you gonna pick the games that started a whole franchise also. Stupid. Might as well add Tekken 1 and Street Fighter to that list. Besides aven at the time, after a 3rd or 4th itteration of a series, its hard to go back and play the original anyways. I agree with another person's post that they should have focused on games that have antiquated gameplay, not graphics and framerate.

"There are Terrible demons" There are Teribble voice actors OW

GTA 3 aged fine IMO and where's Super Mario 64 just watch Game Grumps play it

@bahbahkapooyah4527

9 жыл бұрын

Bah Bah Kapooyah also Metroid lacked a map most likely do to hardware restraints

@mattydigs

9 жыл бұрын

Bah Bah Kapooyah It did age fine but it sucked back then and it sucks now lol

@mistab3333

9 жыл бұрын

Bah Bah Kapooyah if you don't like Mario 64, you may like Mario 63 much more. It's a fan made game that you can find easily online.

@bahbahkapooyah4527

9 жыл бұрын

Blake Ballard I will try that

@mistab3333

9 жыл бұрын

Bah Bah Kapooyah It's 2D, btw.

1. Runescape

@vvgclan8778

9 жыл бұрын

1. Roenskeep*

@mrgraboid9750

9 жыл бұрын

No it's run e scape

@EpicMidnite

9 жыл бұрын

Conner yep, but they have oldschool now though so it's fine imo

@GODOFGUITAR2112

9 жыл бұрын

I think it's more that they ruined it with updates than it aged badly.

@1MakeUrGrave

9 жыл бұрын

Conner It is so sad, pking use to be one of my favorite things and has been impossible to do for years (and to lazy to spend days of playtime on oldschool)

What a crap list. These games are classics and still playable.

@None-lx8kj

7 жыл бұрын

I find Metroid and FF7 to be great games even today. Star Fox and GoldenEye are unplayable.

@lecorbak

6 жыл бұрын

" Star Fox" "unplayable." does not compute.

@crimsonshadow1140

6 жыл бұрын

Goldeneye unplayable, pfft may ass, I have it and play it on a HD TV, sure the graphics and controls are definitely inferior by today’s standards but the gameplay is still completely playable

Watchmojo are you complain about the puzzles in Silent Hill 1?? Really!? -.-.

@vileplume9975

7 жыл бұрын

broken engrwish

Look, I understand people have different opinions but did you guys seriously say Final Fantasy 7 aged badly just because of the bad graphics?

@altonblast5

9 жыл бұрын

Rhys ultimagod Really? When I bought this game a few years ago and played it I said "this game looks like shit, and is a piece of cloud's shoulder missing? and the backgrounds are horrible! why do people love this game so much? sure graphics aren't everything but there is a boundary" after a few years I played the game again and the game still looked horrible but I soldiered through it and got engrossed in the story and loved every single second of it, but what would happen if someone else bought the game and stopped playing it because they couldn't look at the HORRIDLY aged graphics? They would just write it off

@Michelle-yk1qw

9 жыл бұрын

Alton Grange J.R. So you bought a playstation game and you expected ps3 graphics?

@spiritofthewolf15x

9 жыл бұрын

***** The fact that it's basically a poor retelling of Final Fantasy 6 has nothing to do with it.

@altonblast5

9 жыл бұрын

Michelle Stabile no I downloaded a ps1 game on ps3 and expected FF9 graphics and GOOD backgrounds

@duwangchew9902

9 жыл бұрын

***** FF7 did in fact age terribly. From the ugly characters to minor facts like not being able to skip terribly long summon intros/attack animations. Its still a great game at its core, just in desperate need of a remake to iron out the flaws of age.

Golden Eye made their list of top 10 games of all time, yet they made it the number one on this list.

@johntyler3544

8 жыл бұрын

+Nicholas Kennedy This video shouldn't have been made, it's pointless, they're just FPS and open world gamers anyway, they said those were their favorite genres in another video.

@Zer0nite

8 жыл бұрын

+Nicholas Kennedy You obviously don't understand the idea of the video, like everyone else.

@nicholaskennedy6256

8 жыл бұрын

If it is flawed a game as they say, it shouldn't be in the top 10 games of all time. That is a fact. Nostalgia doesn't make up for it. Most people don't feel nostalgia for it anyways.

@richanater99

8 жыл бұрын

+Zer0nite except goldeneye is still fun to play. I still play it with friends sometimes. the definition of a game that has aged well, are the ones where people still play them. I'll bet no one is going to be like "hey guys, lets not pop in mortal kombat and play virtua fighter instead".

@nicholaskennedy6256

8 жыл бұрын

***** No. You don't get it. If it's not a good game today, then it's not one of the best games of all time. Some people might play golden eye for nostalgia, but not for gameplay or graphics. They pointed out problems with both. Not one of the best games of all time

Mortal Kombat 1? Are you insane?

I suppose all those dislikes doesn't heard the first thing they said about games which were good but compared to today's standard and appeal to their nostalgic feeling of "oh, don't you talk shit about (insert old game), boy!" Granted, it started as a possible countdown of games which does not look good or don't have the gameplay of a varied mechanic but ended as complains of the bad stuff about them, mere critics, instead of the main reason of the video. But face it people, when you have to buy or convert your pc or mac spending thousand of dollars to retrograde your machine or installing software to slow down the system enough just to play a game which probably only you remember and your kids woulnd't even try by themselves? that's a fine example of games that aged badly.

@lpnp9477

7 жыл бұрын

Not really. Super Mario Bros 1 has an art style that complements the graphical abilities of the console it was on and its gameplay is still tight, responsive and fun. It's essentially timeless. Many of the games on this list are clunky and difficult to play by today's standards and their art direction is either ugly to begin with or really wasn't appropriate for the era. Pretty much anything that tried to look realistic from the 5th gen and before.

@Revelian1982

5 жыл бұрын

Well then don't make a top ten, and just make a ten second video that says, "All old games look like shit, because I play in 4K now. Bye."

Final Fantasy VII's "bad graphics" add charm to a lot of sequences. it worked for the game.

@richanater99

8 жыл бұрын

+Crisis82 its funny how he says that it looks ugly but the backgrounds all look great lol

@hacm1925

8 жыл бұрын

No you have your nostalgia goggles on

@terminaldeity

8 жыл бұрын

+Crisis82 I laughed out loud at this comment.

@serPomiz

8 жыл бұрын

+Crisis82 nope. they are far from simple or eccesivelly hugly, but good old 2d graphic would have worked better in many occasion. the simple models looked like they had the deep, burning desire of moving to express themself, but no idea of how actually do it. the rest of the game is just "old school" and that is good as it is

@FerreroMan

8 жыл бұрын

+Hacm no, they are as close as what a sprite would look like, because they worked with low level detail characters for so many years before that they knew what they were doing, the battles go for showing more of whats going on and the low poly goes for diverting the point on the story

Me: Why so many dislikes? *FFVII is on the list* Me: Oh that's why

@EarlFaulk

9 жыл бұрын

pikachu896 That or the makers use the graphical standards of today as part of their criteria for 'hasnt aged well'

@pikachu896

9 жыл бұрын

EarlFaulk​ FFVII looks horrible (in the overworld) even for a game of its time.

@GeneralFatman27

8 жыл бұрын

pikachu896 If it's any consolation, I downvoted because of Goldeneye and Team Fortress Classic.

@pikachu896

8 жыл бұрын

***** Yeah... the models in Super Mario 64 look really bad compared to other Mario N64 titles (except Mario Tennis and Mario Golf, those are worse).

@EdenNeedsAYoutubeHandle

8 жыл бұрын

EarlFaulk Compare FF7 to other games released around the same time: Metal Gear Solid, Quake II, Parasite Eve, and Resident Evil 2 for example, not to mention that FF8 came out only two years later. FF7 looked hideous in comparison to even these. Especially considering that FF7 was trying to present itself as having a darker, more serious setting. Gotta say though, I was expecting Sonic Adventure to be #1 on here...

I think a more precise definition of 'aged badly' is needed here. I love playing old Crash/Spyro games and with emulators layering shaders, forcing widescreen and increasing the resolution, graphically they look more than bearable, they control very well too.

2:17 that laugh cracked me app

goldeneye007...? the legendary... goldeneye007...? this ranking is total bullshit!!!

@Kool212

8 жыл бұрын

+Marco Roider Play it again, and i bet you any money you'll cure nintendo for makimng you use the C-stick to aim.

@marcoroider4656

8 жыл бұрын

+KennEH then you have to pay me a billion dollar cause i can play good with the c stick.

@Kool212

8 жыл бұрын

Marco Roider That doesn't mean it wasn't bad just because you got use to it.

@marcoroider4656

8 жыл бұрын

+KennEH it may be a bit confusing but for mee it functionates well.

@sEaNoYeAh

8 жыл бұрын

+Marco Roider Agreed. The control complaints are invalid because of the option to use the analogue stick to aim, leaving the c buttons for digital control of forward and back, and strafing, which is no different to WASD controls on PC. Still play Goldeneye multiplayer with friends, where the tremendous balancing and a dose of nostalgia still generate fun and laughs. Still enjoy the campaign too actually. Plus in single player there is a control scheme that allows you to use two controllers for dual analogue control, which works surprisingly well.

No one in the comments seems to understand what this video is about. All of these games were amazing for their time, but if you were to say, go back and play Golden Eye after playing all these modern shooters, and play it with no nostalgia goggles, you likely wouldn't consider it good. Even if you updated the graphics, the controls are bad by today's standards too.

@Theodiorr

8 жыл бұрын

The controls would be changed anyway. Not like the controls were that bad. A game like Tomb Raider had no analog support. How'd you think it fare today?

@Fidelis1776

8 жыл бұрын

+Gnoggin Some of the games were just not great examples. Leaving graphics out of the equation, some are still fun, even with the wonky controls.

@superfan4

8 жыл бұрын

+Gnoggin i dont have nostalgia goggles, golden eye is fun to play and good.

@razorkee7600

8 жыл бұрын

+Gnoggin And that's what people like you don't get. There are plenty of people who get what this list is meant to be, but still think SOME aged very well. Graphics shouldn't be the sole reason a game doesn't age well...

@JiggityJack

8 жыл бұрын

+Gnoggin Sounds like the guy who created this video never actually played these games when they originally came out, then is trying to compare them to shit that came out today lol. But most of the stuff he lists here is still great. Complaining about Star Fox? Metroid? Virtua Fighter? GTFO!

As soon as I saw FFVII pop up, I knew where the like/dislike ratio came from.

So basically if the game was released on a console that didn't have an HDMI output, it aged poorly according to this list. Get real.

@rodrigosebastianpagano8198

8 жыл бұрын

+KingInky13 There are a lot of games that was well received, has +15 years and aged very well. Super Mario World, Street Fighter Alpha 1, 2 and 3: King of Fighters 94 - 2000, Flashback, Blackthorne, Starcraft, Sonic 1, 2 and 3; even some 3D games as Duke Nukem 3D and Serious Sam. Street Figther EX and Xmen vs Street Fighter are from the same year, if you understand where I'm going... The problem are the games of early 3D times. Most of them have horrible controls by today standards, or graphics were ok for the time, but now are really old.

@garygarside9782

6 жыл бұрын

Chris I think i used the c buttons and got pretty good at it

@wschippr1

6 жыл бұрын

Rodrigo Sebastián Pagano Okami, Wind Waker, Jet Grind Radio, Shadow of the Colossus, Zone of Enders 2, Metal Gear Solid 1-3, Zoo Tycoon, shmups tend to age extremely well, 2D platformers tend to age well, 2D jrpg tend to have aged well, most Metroid & castlevania titles have aged well, Conkers Bad Fur Day, and I could go on. Just thought I'd add to your list.

@b3rz3rk3r9

5 жыл бұрын

KingInky13 That logic would counterract their Top 10 Games that Aged Well (or however it's said) since it includes games from the times before consoles with HDMI

@frozenaorta

5 жыл бұрын

Nah, they have a list of games that aged really well, and it's all retro games. Many of these didn't age well (playing Bond now is hard if you aren't just doing it for nostalgia). But Ocarina of Time is glaringly absent if they're going to include FFVII. That game is such a boring, ugly chore to play today.

ugh people shouldnt care how a game looks

@EvilKevmine

9 жыл бұрын

KingsN' Jenssons PREACH IT

@KingsNJenssons

9 жыл бұрын

EvilKevmine meow

@dooplon5083

9 жыл бұрын

KingsN' Jenssons I once knew a girl in my school (from a few years back) who said she would never play pikmin because she thought the graphics looked terrible. As a fan of Pikmin I have to say that no matter how you feel about the graphics the game still plays like a charm (although it can be occasionally frustrating). I don't know if she ever played it eventually but still

@KingsNJenssons

9 жыл бұрын

Atomic Robo Tesla i know the feeling man have had people in the past who wouldnt try a game that is amazing because how it looked

@josef733

8 жыл бұрын

KingsN' Jenssons If it hinders the gameplay, yes they should.

And Ocarina of Time aged perfectly of course

@TheGrandRevo

9 жыл бұрын

Master quest at least...

@Tahanok2

9 жыл бұрын

sean deans It aged, but not badly enough to end up on the list.

@godymcgork481

9 жыл бұрын

Metroid is on here because it didn't have a map! Silent Hill because of fog! The word badly is used loosely at best

@simonseth6501

9 жыл бұрын

sean deans Well what do you expect it's Watchmojo.

@CornishCreamtea07

9 жыл бұрын

TheGrandRevo Graphically it is the same, the only difference is a higher resolution and progressive scan.

At least half of the list is wrong... very wrong

@AaronKaiMCDNLD

7 жыл бұрын

or right if you stopped wearing that rose-tinted glasses of yours

@TheMGMfan

7 жыл бұрын

Faltiere Ornalock What's your problem with people defending these games?

@AaronKaiMCDNLD

7 жыл бұрын

TheMGMfan Because WM Is Basically True and half of ya'll are just complaining that you're favorite old game is in here

@TheMGMfan

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah but you gotta admit that the part when they mentioned Tomb Raider and complained that it didn't have analog support, when the analog controllers (I say that because there was a PS1 controller with analog sticks before the Dualshock) weren't even a thing when this game was released (It was even admitted by the bar when that appears at the beginning of a part of the video, as if they didn't know that). As far as I know, it's really more or less opinion. Also, these games are near and dear to these people's hearts, so it's somewhat understandable that they complain when this happens. Lastly, I'm pretty sure that it doesn't count for a game to age badly if they aren't possessing the same standards we expect from modern games, nor does it count if they do something that was revolutionary for the time, at the expense of something else because of technical limitations (Yes, those aspects were perfected by other games of that time, but only because they didn't have anything that caused other problems due to said limitations). Then probably every old game would age badly.

This should be titled, ""How to anger the entire Gaming community".

I always thought Starfox looked like shit. Even when it first came out.

@PsychoholicSlag83

8 жыл бұрын

+Tim Frost Me too

@sealrk19

8 жыл бұрын

sweet movie, The Lawnmower Man

@serPomiz

8 жыл бұрын

+Tim Frost old man voice "back then, we only had spiked polygons, and we had to enjoy them, for the only alternative where flat 2ds sprites" but yeah, it was still far too soon for it to be "nice graphic"

@jasonbrown4526

8 жыл бұрын

+Feefye Fofum The game is fun, though.

@billwilliams2116

8 жыл бұрын

+sealrk19 I agree with you.

I disagree with Goldeneye. That game aged like fine wine.

@Hawkeye04300

8 жыл бұрын

+StreetPassPrinceton In what possible way has it aged well?

@GamingtheOtter

8 жыл бұрын

If you played it when it came out then you would understand

@Hawkeye04300

8 жыл бұрын

StreetPassPrinceton No, I wouldn't. Here's the thing, aging well implies it still holds up by today's standards. The controls for GoldenEye were absolute shit, AI is bad, and the graphics CERTAINLY don't hold up. I emulated it and played it using a controller, it's almost unplayable compared to modern games.

@GamingtheOtter

8 жыл бұрын

Why would you play it on an emulator? That is worse! The frame rate is bad if you play it on HD. The game needs to be played on a CRT.

@Hawkeye04300

8 жыл бұрын

StreetPassPrinceton Yeah because fucking everyone has an N64 lying around. None of that changes any of the points I mentioned, nor have you addressed said points.

Its daytime in that Thief: TDP clip. What you see there is simply wallpaper.

Mortal Kombat, Metroid, Star Fox, FF7, GTA3, Goldeneye... All still great

Most of theses games are still fun and timeless. Even 200 years from now they will still be considered masterpieces.

@Speedojesus

8 жыл бұрын

+hotman718 I bet.

@serPomiz

8 жыл бұрын

+hotman718 cave painting are art, roman murals are art, pretty much everything that came out of the reinissance is art. yet cave painting stop holding candels back to the egiptian art that's how entropy works

@brandon9271

8 жыл бұрын

+serPomiz your spelling is a work of "art"

I actually think silent hill does hold up well

@themusicclass101

9 жыл бұрын

I think story wise and atmosphere is great but I hate the controls same for tomb raider I hate tomb raider

@will4127

9 жыл бұрын

fbomb108 I second that. Still puts me on edge when I play it.

@eximmt

9 жыл бұрын

Andersen William I think the most frightening part is when you walk down the alley way you saw your daughter walk down and ask the monsters are trying to kill you and the music sounds like somebody hitting piano keys with a baseball bat.

Making maps in old games was part of the fun. It even tells you to do that in the manuals.

Where's ocarina of time? Prepares flame shield

Judging by the dislike bar, I think a lot of people don't understand that saying something hasn't aged well isn't outright saying that it is bad :p It could still be very good just certain elements don't hold up and were improved in later entries. That being said, here are some games I think were missing: -Halo:Combat Evolved -Kingdom Hearts 1 -Sonic Adventure -MGS1 & 2

@DeltaSpark8

9 жыл бұрын

***** Thank you! They explain it at 0:21 that the games aren't necessarily bad, just badly outdated.

@SergeantSatire

9 жыл бұрын

Lick Tasty I wont deny that !

@OniLordMiki

9 жыл бұрын

What do you expect. No doubt it's just a bunch of nostalgia yards who believe these games to be sacred and immune to criticism. Flower, Sun, and Rain is one of my favorite games of all time but I have no qualms in saying that very few people are going to like it.

@RandomRon005

9 жыл бұрын

Lick Tasty Adventure: Not really. Adventure 2: Even worse.

@RandomRon005

9 жыл бұрын

Jake Murrin Presentation-wise, SA2 is a step up. Gameplay-wise, however, even in Sonic & Shadow stages, took step backwards. I'll just say every homing attack from SA to 06 was flawed since a lot of the time it won't home into the enemy. But one my biggest problem with SA2's speed stages is the flat, linear, hallway-like level design. In SA, the levels felt grand & had multiple paths you could take to get to the end, even rewards you for being curious & exploring the level, such as items & paths that aren't noticed like jumping off the building in Speed Highway to skip all the way to the helicopter part. The game felt like an actual adventure. In SA2, I don't get adventure vibes from SA2; I get 90s action flick. I took the time to actually explore the levels, God-forbid, & there were rare occurrences where there was a path that strayed away from the normal that actually mattered. You're given that path & that's it. On top of that, a lot of the levels felt copy & paste with the same part of the level you saw earlier in the level. The other problem with the speed stages is the action button. I don't know what Sonic Team's obsession, fetish, whatever you want to call it, with putting multiple attacks on one button. I'll admit the Light Speed Dash is more convenient than in SA. Problem is when you put it on the same button as the Somersault, you either Light Speed Dash or Somersault to your death because you were just one little step off from the trail of rings. To make matters worse, you get the Bounce Bracelet later and now that's on the same button. So if you need to Light Dash in the air, chances are you're going to die because the game registered it as the Bounce Attack. The funny part is you don't really need the Bounce Attack if you want to beat the game unless it's that one part where you find it and even then it's possible to skip it.

Silent Hill 1 aged badly? Are you kidding me?

@Speedojesus

8 жыл бұрын

+Marcus Mührmann-Lund Are you kidding me?

@Yetaxa

8 жыл бұрын

+Speedojesus are you kidding me?

@Marcusml333

8 жыл бұрын

Yetaxa That's what I would've said!

@Speedojesus

8 жыл бұрын

Yetaxa Playground arguments aren't beyond you I guess. So, I'll say it again, are you kidding me?

@Marcusml333

8 жыл бұрын

Speedojesus Alright, what about it has aged badly?

I played FF7 for the first time a few months ago, all the way through, and I genuinely enjoyed it.

This should be titled: 10 videogames classics

"There are... terrible... demons... OUCH!!" There was a time that Resident Evil used to scare me, but that line always made me laugh my ass off.

ur mom shows her age

@stankfanger1366

8 жыл бұрын

+Adam Stanley Your mom shows her everything. That's why your lunch money always has skid marks on it.

@RickDunnigan

8 жыл бұрын

+Young Frankenstein BURRNNNNN

@hemanikapoor3862

8 жыл бұрын

+Young Frankenstein Burn Baby Burn

@300otterclancats

8 жыл бұрын

GOT EEEEEEMMMM!

Mortal Kombat looked amazing when it was first released, and it's still great today.

Not "Aged Badly", but "Made For Its Time".

C*mon, this list is a joke... Star Fox, Mortal Kombat, Metroid... they aged bad? Seriously? This are some of the best games in the industry today. Why the aged bad? Totally wrong...

@TaoistSwordsman

9 жыл бұрын

The origonal Mortal Kombat looks terrible on todays standards of graphics. And the gameplay feels so...bleh, comparing it to its newer counterparts

@TheDuckClock

9 жыл бұрын

Steve Smith Were you even paying attention to what they said at the start of the video?

@andrewjenkins7755

9 жыл бұрын

Pugglen I agree. The original Mortal Kombat is sooo friggin' stiff! >.

@TimpsterTheDude

9 жыл бұрын

Kyle Broflovski You still don't even understand the purpose of this list? Mortal Kombat *does* look like crap if you look at it today. It even had pretty sub-par graphics for when it was released. It is *not* a bad game, they specifically said so in the beginning. This list is about good games that are kind of bad when looking at them today/they were better before/they aged badly.

@Johnnythefirst

9 жыл бұрын

TimpsterTheDude I don't think it had sub-par graphics on release. They looked like real people to our young eyes. Every other fighter game had cartoons. :)

In 007 Golden Eye, I customized my controls and made sure left and right steps were the left right yellow C buttons. So as I ran and pointed in any direction, I could also smoothly transition into running sideways and direct the camera as desired. When I got the hang of that mechanic, I quickly became the best 007 golden eye player I've ever encountered. Only a few other people really had side stepping down.

@thexbigxgreen

8 жыл бұрын

yes. strafing while running all but doubled your running speed! I was also near undefeated in goldeneye.

@richanater99

8 жыл бұрын

+Remrie Arrie (Duckshorts) only the people who unlocked all of the cheats by themselves had side stepping down. it was a requirement for the facility 00 agent difficulty.

@Remrie

8 жыл бұрын

richanater99 Good point! I can't even comprehend how difficult it would be to play the game without side stepping. o.o

@Wza456

8 жыл бұрын

+Remrie Arrie (Duckshorts) Whoever made this list was on point until his final 2 games. It is pure blasphemy to say GTAIII has aged badly considering it could be argued it's the greatest game of the series and possibly of all time. Goldeneye at #1 was complete horseshit as well, really lost all credibility for the list after that.

@plummet3860

8 жыл бұрын

+richanater99 took me a good 100+ attempts if not more to unlock it myself but damn the feeling when i did lol

i feel the need to point out that in golden eye i used the control style called solitaire which is basically the same as using the 'c' buttons as the second analogue and my friends used to get pissed that i could freely aim while walking. .. just sayin', that was an option.

Wtf WatchMojo? You seriously trying to tell me that GTA 3 (an all time classic that has set the foundation for many games today) has aged worse than Mortal Kombat and nearly as badly as Goldeneye? As much as I like the PS1 GTAs, you should have put those on here instead since they are inferior to most other sandbox/free roam games at the time.

No Pokemon Red and Blue

@Nazrininator

9 жыл бұрын

JoshnJackAnimations I agree. Pokemon Red and Blue was an amazing game at its time, but it didn't age very well due to glitches and much needed features added in later versions.

@TheGrandRevo

9 жыл бұрын

As a fan of pokemon, i complete l agree

@grapeking9074

9 жыл бұрын

JoshnJackAnimations I agree too.

@KingKaiserSW

9 жыл бұрын

Nazrininator Ha ha ha ha ha like if hyper beam kills you dont have to waste a turn to recharge or it taking a whole turn to wake up from sleep, or wrap taking forever or...etc.

Mortal Kombat is still awesome

Guys they are not saying these games are bad. They are just saying that the technology here hasn't contributed to future games.

Goldeneye actually had a dual stick mode where you held a controller in each hand for proper dual stick aiming.

Pokemon red and blue should have been on the list -Awful sprites -Broken mechanics -Lots of Glitches

@oscarzxn4067

9 жыл бұрын

blazikematheus -Slow as hell.

@danieldmw

9 жыл бұрын

blazikematheus They don't understand "aging badly", that's the problem

@UltimaKombat

9 жыл бұрын

blazikematheus I cannot agree more. Goldeneye should be an HM and Red/Blue should certainly be number one

@iancd9171

9 жыл бұрын

blazikematheus Broken mechanics ? Lots of glitches ? Where did you see that ? I played through pokemon blue not 2 years ago, it was almost better than recent versions of pokemon. It aged surprisingly well.

@blazikematheus

9 жыл бұрын

Ian cd There is a big list out there of all the broken mechanics in RB, some of them are: -Focus Energy was supposed to increase your critical rate but it actually does the opposite of that -If you raised your stats too much (with Swords Dance or Agility) the stats would actually become negative -Psychic type is way too much broken -The Special stat was stupid -The AI is kinda dumb (but it is dumb even the new games so yeah) And it goes on and on...

The summary of this video: "OMG THE GRAPHICS LOOK SO BLOCKY". No shit its 1995

You could put ALL spectrum and Atari 2600 games on this list as well.

@techjunkie133

8 жыл бұрын

True, I think they purposely put FF7 on here to make people mad. The comments are a nuclear war zone

@ultraboombean

6 жыл бұрын

Eh ff7 plays alright but it looks horrible and awkward, whereas FF6 looks great even today, and even ff8 looks alright. It has some awkward looking cut scenes, but it's not ugly. I mean it had to look like that, but it is an eyesore.

@ultraboombean

6 жыл бұрын

Eh some atari games look good though . It's not necessarily the style of the graphics- it's just whether they look appealing or not. Something like pacman still looks good even if it is in rudimentary graphics. Heck even pong looks okay.

2:21 : Maybe but the Famicom Disk System version of Metroid had a save feature that use slots instead of passwords.

I would like to see:"video games that aged well" eehhh kynda obvious ehich game would take number 1.

@bjam89

9 жыл бұрын

i like turtles but potatoes are cool too. goldeneye?

@friska7365

9 жыл бұрын

bjam89 well not badly

@Lordani66

9 жыл бұрын

i like turtles but potatoes are cool too. I think heroes III should be there, age of empires III too.

@friska7365

9 жыл бұрын

***** age of empire 3 for sure , but we all know which game would take the top. Cs 1.6

@unstablerupture6983

9 жыл бұрын

i like turtles but potatoes are cool too. Halo Combat evolved?

Basically no-one agrees with your list. Shocking. Every game here is either perfectly fine or was shite when it was released.

@VGMRealm

9 жыл бұрын

Ei’ríġ Proinsias Dammantaċ Ó Gamhna. Found your comment here haha

@Gaff.

9 жыл бұрын

vgRealm And I've found your Steam account. Finish Black Soul!

@VGMRealm

9 жыл бұрын

Ei’ríġ Proinsias Dammantaċ Ó Gamhna. Hahah i was actually debating to make another part today. but the day has run short for me ! I gotta do another video cus they removed the load times!

@Gaff.

9 жыл бұрын

vgRealm How far are you? Any further than your last video? I'm long past that. I'd say the outdoor areas drag a bit, but overall it's at least made with love, if not perfection. I'd used the fixed camera, though. You can get used to it, as crazy as it seems at the start. I think the 'tracking' one cripples the game experience, at least for me. My other problem is you can save every five seconds. I've started limiting my saves to one per 'section', whatever I decide that is.

@VGMRealm

9 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I like to switch back from tracking to regular but on my videos i use mostly tracking . as my last video thats how far i am! When do i get to try out your game?

Having to plot out my own map while playing Metroid was part of what made the game so amazing. The fact that I wasn't told where to go by a computer or a little blip on my display. The fact that I could actually get lost. The fact that the game wasn't just on the screen but also in my head to the point that I had to put it on paper, extending it into the real world. Call that a weakness if you want, but it made the game feel larger and forced me to... what's the word?... Explore.

@bookman85

8 жыл бұрын

Yeah the feeling of being literally lost on an alien planet is pure classic metroid appeal. That's also why I love solar jetman.

I honestly love how the old blocky graphics look. it's amazing what they were able to accomplish with only a few polygons. I never tire of those old blocky graphics, and of course I heartily disagree with this list. I think several of these games still look good today, just because the graphics are more basic doesn't override the fact that they are colorful, stylish, and best of all exttemely fun to play.

Everyone is misunderstanding the title of this video .. it's not about 'bad' games, it's about games that don't look as good today, as they did at the time .. technically, every old game could be on this list .. but these are just, in WatchMojo's opinion, the ones that aged the worst.. These games were great in their time .. but now .. anywhere from eh to eww.

@jacqueline7544

9 жыл бұрын

People just don't wanna let go of the past ..

@mrblonde609

9 жыл бұрын

Jacqueline Sobotowicz Are you stupid? I hate people like you, who want to tell others what things are about. If you have watched and listened to the list, you would've known, that they also mentions game mechanics and not just graphics. Idiot.

Every PS1 and most N64 games should be on here.

@tjlnintendo

9 жыл бұрын

Star fox 64 has aged well

@danielvasile8933

9 жыл бұрын

True

@Bogakeil

9 жыл бұрын

Sheogorath Might be a little more than 10 entries then

@LeMasterofSwords

9 жыл бұрын

Why Mario and ocarina of time

@TylerPacman

9 жыл бұрын

kyle wolman While Mario 64 at the time was a huge thing and made changes to gaming overall, it doesn't really hold up all to well. That is likely why they re-mastered it for the DS, which is also not aging too well, but not as bad as the N64 version. While my favorite game of all time, not being a N64 game but a Gamecube game, Wind Waker's cell shaded style seems to hold up quite a bit more then other games around the early Gamecube era.

- Those Final Fantasy bulky characters made me remember games like "Ecstatica", where every character was made of spherical bumps - I think in GTA 3 10th anniversary they gave a map for the game (i don't remember if in GTA Liberty City Stories Rockstar made an ingame map for Liberty City) - Couple of years before i played Hitman Blood Money, so i replayed afer that Hitman Contract and after that Hitman Silent Assassin, and at last Hitman Codename 47. It's so incredible how different is Blood Money from the original game.

5:35 I still think combat would be the first thing that needs changing because while the turn-based combat may have worked back in the late 80s to mid 90s, it can best be described as "play this while playing the Engineer in TF2" in 2019