Wtf? Kershaw is on this list but not Nolan Ryan?

@icepeople400

Жыл бұрын

For real

@thebrutaljudge9883

Жыл бұрын

that is fucking ridiculous !

@petersonofleo11

Жыл бұрын

Nolan Ryan had insane longetivity but tbh he never had a great peak comparable to other all time greats.

@mikeimpressionsreviews9831

Жыл бұрын

@@petersonofleo11 single season record in strikeouts

@petersonofleo11

Жыл бұрын

@@mikeimpressionsreviews9831 He walked 162 hitters that season and only had an ERA+ of 123 which is a little above average.

Where's nolan ryan

@centechken1

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, this guy fucked up for left out Nolan.

@Baseball-me7zn

Жыл бұрын

I know

@kennywiles

Жыл бұрын

Was waiting for #0, because no one will ever match Nolan Ryan

@BigBass-xf5yi

Жыл бұрын

It’s like leaving Led Zeppelin out of a rock n roll too 10 list. Wtf?

@barrymcnab9336

Жыл бұрын

Yes one of the Best

Cy Young, Nolan Ryan, Bob Feller, Tom Seaver, Sandy Koufax?

@garrettharvey3785

Жыл бұрын

This list was put together by grade schooler's.

@fjbrandon6044

11 ай бұрын

Sandy Koufax had a .95 ERA in 50+ World Series innings!!!

@sportspotlight6722

5 ай бұрын

Too many pitchers and only so many spots. Someone had to miss out

@andrewsmith3257

22 күн бұрын

​@@sportspotlight6722you don't know baseball. Koufax is definitely top 10

Gotta love baseball. All great picks, but Nolan should be there!

@greghuffman3061

9 ай бұрын

Im more of a christopher nolan fan

@Bugknocker

7 ай бұрын

Ryan 500 pitcher he is a no

WHAT ABOUT NOLAN RYAN AND CY YOUNG

@Gnofg

4 ай бұрын

Nolan never won a Cy Young. Ask yourself why.

Grover Cleveland Alexander obviously is one of the top 10. He broke into the majors with a 28 win rookie season, and had 3 consecutive seasons with 30+ wins. Any modern pitcher who sets up batters with fastballs and then strikes them out with a sneaky slider owe Alexander a debt of gratitude.

@sportspotlight6722

2 ай бұрын

Good ole Grover

I cant fault you putting Mariano Rivera up there, i personally wouldnt have put him in my top ten because i value starters more but I will admit the argument for Rivera is solid. He was head and shoulders above everyone else at his position for so long and his postseason numbers are absolutely staggering. But how could you leave Nolan Ryan off this list? He should be top 5!

@sportspotlight6722

5 ай бұрын

I need people to comment and doing things controversial always gets people to say something lol

@user-tw9mt8io2u

5 күн бұрын

Nolan Ryan never had a five year WAR above 27.5. NOlan Ryan never won a cy Young Award; Nolan Ryan had a 112 ERA+. He is without doubt the most over-rated pitcher in MLB history.

Lists without Koufax don't get taken seriously.

@redreeler4905

5 ай бұрын

Yes or Nolan Ryan!!!

@sportspotlight6722

5 ай бұрын

Not many people mentioned Koufax most were more upset with Nolan Ryan being left out

@IHaveTheSchwartz

5 ай бұрын

@@sportspotlight6722 Both are inexcusable

@sportspotlight6722

5 ай бұрын

@@IHaveTheSchwartz Sandy Koufax maybe... Go look at almost any other list and none of them have Nolan Ryan. He was close or an honorable mention but most agree not quite top 10

@user-tw9mt8io2u

5 күн бұрын

@@IHaveTheSchwartz Neither is nearly as good as Robert Moses Grove.

Warren Spahn, my boyhood pitching hero.

@miguel-db9xf

Жыл бұрын

Barry Sanders. Bo Jackson.

Grove and Feller and Koufax, and possibly Spahn and Alexander should be top ten. Grove, in era context, could be the very best.

@sportspotlight6722

2 ай бұрын

Could be

@user-tw9mt8io2u

5 күн бұрын

Smart post. He was the best and the most under-rated great in MLB history without question.

Nolan Ryan should have been number 1; he holds 2 records that will never be broken total strikeouts, and most no hitters!!! He had over 300 wins, and if he would have played for better teams I believe he could have been nearer 400 wins!!! He even got better as his career went on, his longevity and strength as a pitcher was off the charts!!! He had something like 18 one hitters, and about as many 2 hitters!!!

@sportspotlight6722

5 ай бұрын

I can not argue with these facts

@Gnofg

4 ай бұрын

He never won a Cy Young his entire career because he was never the best pitcher in any year. I grew up with him. Seaver was a much better pitcher and he wasn't close to Koufax who was easily the best. Seaver's teams were no better that Ryan's team. You guys who read stats and weren't alive have no idea who was the best. Same goes for the people who love Pete Maravich.

@DillDough-dn4eb

4 ай бұрын

So giving this info. A guy threw two no hitters in one season, did he have a good year

@Gnofg

4 ай бұрын

@@DillDough-dn4eb I saw him play. He was inconsistent his entire career.

@DillDough-dn4eb

4 ай бұрын

@@Gnofg oh I know. His walks and control issues are outrageous. I was merely referring to the fact that 7 games of a career is not a metric that means much.

Ok, when Randy Johnson came on at three, I was like, "okay so that leaves Nolan Ryan and who else for the last two. How in the world do you leave Nolan ryan off of this list?

@TsukiRaiki

Жыл бұрын

too many walks and WHIP was never that good. also never won a cy young. im a HUGE ryan fan always called him the greatest as a kid but theres a lot more to the game that just Ks. tho i do think he deserves at least top 3 or 5. but players like maddox, pedro and koufax were true dominant pitchers in terms of shuting teams down. one of these three should be number 1. sandy dominated the game for 6 straight seasons and 5 straight with a WHIP under 1. shit was actually insane if you look up his numbers.

@standepain

11 ай бұрын

​@@TsukiRaiki True but his FIP is amazing and better Jonson, Maddux, Verlander, Scherzer and Clemens.

@TsukiRaiki

11 ай бұрын

@@standepain his fip is only 2.97. koufax had a 2.69

@standepain

11 ай бұрын

@@TsukiRaiki ...and? We're talking Ryan not Koufax.

@standepain

11 ай бұрын

@@TsukiRaiki A sub 3 FIP is incredible especially considering he pitched 5300 innings. Randy Johnsons is 3.19, Clemens 3.09, Maddux 3.26.

If not for World War II, Bob Feller would have lapped some of these. Missed basically 4 full seasons. Averaged 26 wins in the 3 years before the war. Won 26 his first full year after. So, if Feller wins 370 games, where does he fit on this list?

@sportspotlight6722

5 ай бұрын

He was also playing against sub par athletes compared to today. No doubt athletes today are much better than before

@carseye1219

5 ай бұрын

Using that logic, every player from the past was crap. The ONLY thing that matters is how dominant a player was against his contemporaries. Otherwise, you might as well, just take today's all-stars and forget even having lists like this. @@sportspotlight6722

The steroid age was not a “dark age” for the MLB. It was some of the most entertaining TV I’ve ever seen

@cloudnine9528

Жыл бұрын

haha! be that as it may- when something is illegal, it’s the criminals that benefit the most unless they’re caught. So they’ll always have an asterisk next to those *amazing feats

@dukedematteo1995

Жыл бұрын

The idea that it was dark era or a shameful time that should be stricken from our collective memories is coming straight from the high priesthood of sportswriters who enjoy sniffing their own farts on a daily basis. These guys made their careers writing about, and in the most agonizingly corny way moralized the PED issue non stop for 20 years. Demanding ridiculous Congressional hearings, even lobbying hard to get legendary players thrown in federal prison. Plus the moral panic that they instigated and fanned for like 15 to 20 years. I hate them far more than any 90s player who didn't even break a rule by using PEDs back then. They're despicable, corny, old, out of touch Boomers who need to stfu. No one asked your nerdy uncoordinated ass to be the moral police of the MLB.

@braddorcas9363

Жыл бұрын

It was a dark age for legitimacy is what he's eluding too. Hence why he's basically saying take stuff from that era with a grain of salt

@kensmith2839

10 ай бұрын

It was a freak show. Ban the juicers.

@nicholasschroeder3678

7 ай бұрын

The Sopranos was also entertaining. But sport is SUPPOSED to be about fair play.

I always think there should be two separate lists. Pitchers from modern baseball, and pitchers before that. It's impossible to compare someone like Walter Johnson for example to Randy Johnson. Era's are so different. Mechanics are different, literally everything. If Walter Johnson pitched in the modern era, his numbers would not look like they did then. Not suggesting he wasn't great, it's just the game has evolve is all. For example, many don't know this. Walter Johnson, known as a great fastball pitcher. Probably only threw high 80s, maybe early 90s tops. His fastball was clocked in the 80s... You put that in the modern era, he'd get killed. Now, I realize those whacky pitching delivers back then were not good... And he'd probably have completely different pitching mechanics if he pitched today. Another thing this is he pitched in the dead ball era, where the offense just doesn't compared to modern baseball. Just saying the eras are different. You can't look at his numbers, and say 'goat'. That's why each era you can't compare. And they should be separated. This is not being disrespectful to Walter Johnson. He obviously was magnificent in his era, and should be celebrated for it. I just don't think it necessarily makes him the goat. And it's impossible to compare it to pitchers from the modern baseball era. Just my two cents. Modern day pitchers for me it's. Maddux, Pedo, Randy Johnson, Koufax, Bob Gibson, Roger Clemens, Nolan Ryan, Mariano Rivera (I just can't put a relief pitcher higher than the guys on the list - but yeah, he was amazing), Tom Seager, Kershaw (I figure I'd throw someone from today's era so I'm not hating, but a lot of guys could replace him easily).

@nicholasschroeder3678

7 ай бұрын

All good sense. It should also be noted that you raise any modern pitcher in the dead ball era, and they wouldn't be as strong or skilled either. They'd be entirely different men.

@sportspotlight6722

5 ай бұрын

Honestly this is all sports. You need a modern and post. Too many rule changes and way too many changes in playing styles to always compare

@Rspknlikeab0ssxd

5 ай бұрын

You make fair points about the way the game being played completely changing how they'd be in different eras. One thing I will say though is that they likely wouldn't have had very accurate readings on fastball speed when Walter Johnson was throwing blazers. Additionally, as I understand it the modern fastball speeds are slightly inflated because of where the ball is measured from being different. Everyone thought Walter Johnson was throwing sizzlers then, I don't see it as unlikely that the guy could've been pitching at today's speeds

@nicholasschroeder3678

5 ай бұрын

@@Rspknlikeab0ssxd I would tend to agree: he was a big guy: it's probable he was throwing in the 90s. The bottom line is that these GOAT arguments are all pretty meaningless; yet, we all seem compelled to make them. Not just in sport, but every other field of human endeavor as well--we all want to know who's the top dog.

@Rspknlikeab0ssxd

5 ай бұрын

@@nicholasschroeder3678 I don't think the debates are meaningless because at the least someone will be the best given certain criteria/categories. Like Hank Aaron for home runs without steroids or Ricky Henderson for bases stolen. But does having the most home runs mean best home run hitter? Let alone hitter? Probably not necessarily. And all the different pitchers that they hit off of, or vastly different plate appearances, and other assets. Man it's a lot to consider. But still I think one could make compelling arguments if they took the time😂

1. Seaver 2. Spahn 3. Grove 4. Maddux 5. Ford

@sportspotlight6722

4 ай бұрын

At least there was no Nolan Ryan. Everyone hates me for leaving out Ryan. Ford was a new one though so thank you as well.

ERA+ or more pitching statistics comparing the pitchers to the pitchers of their seasons would be nice

@Bobobo-bo-bo-bobobo

Жыл бұрын

ERA+ is a really good stat. WHIP and K/BB are good to measure pitchers across eras too

@hushpuckena126

10 ай бұрын

Case in point: on straight ERA, Grove does not make the top 100, because of the time in which he pitched, but ERA+ is far more revealing. There it will be seen that he was an all-time great.

My Top 12 1. Walter Johnson 2. Christy Mathewson 3. Grover Alexander 4. Cy Young 5. Tom Seaver 6. Randy Johnson 7. Greg Maddox 8. Warren Spahn 9. Lefty Grove 10. Pedro Martinez 11. Bob Gibson 12. Steve Carleton or Bob Feller. I go back and forth with this one. Not putting any steroids user on my list. No Clemens. Kershaw is still active. He will make my list when he stops playing. No Koufax. Too many not great years. Amazing 5 years but this was during a dead ball era and his mound was excessively high.

@sportspotlight6722

2 ай бұрын

Solid list and good reasoning

@user-tw9mt8io2u

5 күн бұрын

Grove should be much higher. But you have the savvy to know he belongs near the top. Grove was much more efficient than Mathewson, Alexander, Young, Seaver, Maddux, or Spahn. Proof: he had a higher pitching WAR than any of them in about 1200 fewer innings. And the poster has the top ten there though I think he continued to 12.

Nolan Ryan is not one of the top 10 pitchers in MLB history. At his best he was great, with 7 no-hitters, and of course he leads in career strikeouts. But he also had 8 losing seasons, and lost nearly 300 games in his career, with just a .526 career winning percentage. A great pitcher, but not top 10 all time.

@user-tw9mt8io2u

5 күн бұрын

Speaking the truth.

Respectable list and great editing! I was just looking for a video to remind me of the best pitchers and this was perfect. Have a great day everyone 😊

@sportspotlight6722

5 ай бұрын

I appreciate the comment

Roids should be mandatory so us fans get the best possible product.

@sportspotlight6722

3 ай бұрын

We need more juice

Ummm Nolan Ryan, Cy, Koufax, and Bob Feller. I don’t know about this list.

Strange not to see Cy Young or Lefty Grove on such a list.

@mikeimpressionsreviews9831

8 ай бұрын

Cy had a lot of losses.

@Bugknocker

7 ай бұрын

Grove yes Young no

@nicholasschroeder3678

7 ай бұрын

Grove is a definite top ten. Young is really debatable. Alexander was better from that era.

@sportspotlight6722

5 ай бұрын

No matter who I leave out someone will disagree with me

I completely agree with this list..💯

@sportspotlight6722

3 ай бұрын

not many people have so thank you

Warren Spahn ,Cy Young

@sportspotlight6722

4 ай бұрын

Good Ole Cy young

Bob Gibson should at least be number three because they had to change the rules for that man

I agree about Walter Johnson, but. Nolan Ryan and Koufax should be on this list. Koufax had 4 no hitters in 4 consecutive seasons.

@sportspotlight6722

4 ай бұрын

Koufax is probably the one that should have been.

@user-tw9mt8io2u

5 күн бұрын

Forget about goo-gaws like no hitters. They are fun but they should not be a factor on a list like this.

Mariano Rivera blew the Yankees ' chance to sweep my beloved Red Sox. He walked Kevin Millar, who almost never walked. It was nothing new as the Red Sox had Rivera's number for quite some time back then.

I would have found a spot for the chairman of the board

@sportspotlight6722

4 ай бұрын

You know what. Great idea

Needs to be a top 25 to include Cy Young, Bob Feller, Sandy Koufax, Steve Carlton, Juan Marichal, Ferguson Jenkins, Nolan Ryan, Tom Seaver and though I hate to say it Roger Clemmons and Warren Spahn, Gaylord Perry, Phil Neikro, Tom Glavine and many others!

@sportspotlight6722

5 ай бұрын

Roger Clemens would have gotten me some heat for being on here

Clayton Chokeshaw

@sportspotlight6722

4 ай бұрын

do you know him that well?

No Nolan!!! No Satchel??

1. Nice try though; nice video. But oh, come on now. Nolan was the guy that Burgess Meredith screamed at Rocky not to fight. #1 most frightening pitcher any batter *ever* faced. Like stopping Gretzky. Facing Tyson. Guarding Wilt. You totally whiffed. Nolan far, by far #1 all time. 2. Babe Ruth was probably better than Nolan. The only reason he didn't go 140-0 was the games he drank the night before. JMO ! Bonus. I would rather face several of those than Koufax. I'd rather face prime Gibson than Koufax. And Cy Young is not top 10?

@garrettharvey3785

Жыл бұрын

This list is trash. Got some great pitchers in the list, but missing the best.

@fjbrandon6044

11 ай бұрын

Sandy Koufax won 3 Cy Young awards when only one was picked. Not an American League and Naional

@Bill_Woo

11 ай бұрын

@@fjbrandon6044 I don't understand what you were trying to say, but liked your reply because I like your name.

@user-tw9mt8io2u

5 күн бұрын

@@fjbrandon6044 Koufax's five year peak from 1962-66 was 5.3 WAR lower that Lefty Grove's 1929-33 peak and Grove only pitched 44 more innings

there i fixed the list guys dont worry #1 Sandy Koufax #2 Pedro Martinez #3 Greg Maddox #4 Nolan Ryan #5 Roger Clemons #6 Randy Johnson #7 Walter Johnson #8 Cy Young #9 Mariano #10 Roki Sasaki

@carseye1219

Жыл бұрын

Koufax, only if your criteria are the best 4-year stretches.

@drewdurbin4968

11 ай бұрын

Yeah no Walter Johnson surpasses them all.

@fjbrandon6044

11 ай бұрын

Amen to Sandy Koufax and his .95 ERA in 50+ World Series innings. Mariano Rivera #2?? A relief pitcher can come in with 2 outs give up 2 hits and get one out and have his ERA lowered. BS

@sportspotlight6722

2 ай бұрын

Make your own video too

@user-tw9mt8io2u

5 күн бұрын

10 Christy Mathewson 9. Greg Maddux 8. Tom Seaver 7. Grover Cleveland Alexander 6. Pedro Martinez 5. Cy Young 4. Randy Johnson 3. Roger Clemens 2. Lefty Grove 1. Walter Johnson

The guys on this list are all right just they’re all in the wrong spots. Mariano Rivera might not get into the top ten, #2 is absolutely insane. Pedro Martinez is easily top 3 all time and Greg Maddux is top 5. Walter Johnson deserves a mention and possibly top ten, but not top five. Overall this is a decent list needs some work tho

@sportspotlight6722

4 ай бұрын

Every list needs work. Thats the beauty of it. as time goes on they all need fixed

The issue is who would you give the ball to in game 7 of ws? Koufax, Gibson, ...

@sportspotlight6722

4 ай бұрын

Well that was answered and if its 2 runs or less after the 7th inning... Rivera and only Rivera

@user-wp3tf5bu7n

2 ай бұрын

Kofax

Putting Kershaw on this list and leaving out Cy Young and Nolan Ryan is an absolute embarrassment .

@sportspotlight6722

4 ай бұрын

Nolan had too many walks to be on here

@user-tw9mt8io2u

5 күн бұрын

The only embarrasment is thinking Clayton Kershaw is not head and shoulders better than NOlan Ryan. And lots of top ten lists leave off 19th century pitchers.

Kershaw No chokes BG

@sportspotlight6722

4 ай бұрын

Lots of Kershaw haters out here

Nolan Ryan??? Cy Young??? Hello ???

A list like this that does not include Nolan Ryan is RIDICULOUS!

I feel you're missing some of the best. Like Cy Young and Koufax. Also Pedro Martinez should be a bit higher, maybe not #1 but he hold the best season ever by era+ and did it during Barry Bonds' peak years

A top ten without Koufax or Ryan is a sin .

@sportspotlight6722

3 ай бұрын

Koufax was on purpose but Ryan can be passed on his ERA and batters based is too high for a top 10

@user-tw9mt8io2u

5 күн бұрын

no it shows you that the guy knows what he is talking about.

No Cy Young, Sandy Koufax, Lefty Grove, Grover Cleveland Alexander, Bob Feller? Far too many from the steroid era, Randy Johnson & Rivera and that should do it. No question Cy Young and Koufax belong on any “greatest pitcher” list.

@sportspotlight6722

4 ай бұрын

Just because you could not test for it does not mean people did not cheat back in the day. like rigging games and world series?? lets all agree baseball has been in an indefinite cheating period on one sort or another

Where are Lefty Grove, Sandy Koufax, Steve Carlton, and Jim Palmer?

No Nolan Ryan.i thought he would be #1 for sure

@jesusramonespinalvaldez2486

Жыл бұрын

Ryan is not in the top five, he was the pitcher more inconsistent of the greatest

@petersonofleo11

Жыл бұрын

Nolan Ryan didn't have a peak comparable to other all time greats.

@user-tw9mt8io2u

5 күн бұрын

@@petersonofleo11 His peak from 1973-77 was 27.5. almost all the guys on the real top ten had over 40, and Lefty Grve had over 40 twice for five years in the modern era.

I would have Maddux at 4

It's hard to make a top 10 list because there's been SO many spectacular pitchers. A lot of people have been commenting about Nolan Ryan, I'd add Sandy Koufax and Cy Young as almost certainly making my top 10. Bob Feller and Satchel Paige, plus *controversially* Roger Clemons are good additions too

@sportspotlight6722

5 ай бұрын

Agreed it is very hard as time goes on and more great players pop up. Like this list does not have Ohtani on it and lets be real he is already top 15 on his way to top 5 not on this list but all time

@Rspknlikeab0ssxd

5 ай бұрын

@@sportspotlight6722 At that point Babe Ruth might as well be on the list I feel like

@sportspotlight6722

5 ай бұрын

I have a video for Top 20 players all time and he is there@@Rspknlikeab0ssxd

@Gnofg

4 ай бұрын

Koufax was and is the greatest pitcher ever. Hands down.

@Rspknlikeab0ssxd

4 ай бұрын

@@Gnofg I think so too, for my all star team I'd have him [Koufax] pitch as first or second string along with Babe Ruth (who could DH and pitch)

2:20 that was just filthy

Koufax was the Beatles of MLB pitching!!!

@sportspotlight6722

2 ай бұрын

beatles are not top 10 here either

Nolan Ryan doesn’t exist?

You should have titled it my favorite ten pitchers. No reliever should be on this list. Make a separate list for relievers. It is amazing how social media has given everyone a platform. If Nolan Ryan isn't on your list you don't understand the game of baseball

@sportspotlight6722

2 ай бұрын

Oh so you mean an ERA of 3.2 and walking half a roster every other game right.....

Yes to all but Ryan, Perry, Niekro and Glavine

@sportspotlight6722

2 ай бұрын

so a whole new list or what

Another list that does not have Lefty Grove, the most under-rated super star in MLB history. Hubbell had two ERA titles ; Grove had nine. Grove had 113.3 WAR for his career more than most any of these guys. Johnson is number one, but Grove, not anybody else is number two

hmmmm, not bad.......but where is Cy Young???? Why is that the prestigious award, but he's not included?

@sportspotlight6722

4 ай бұрын

I mean lets be honest how many trophies do we hand out with the name of a player who is no longer as good as the people winning it?

Also how Walter Johnson he’s probably like 9th of all time

@mikeimpressionsreviews9831

Жыл бұрын

You kidding, #1 easy

Bro Nolan is the greatest pitcher ever to play mlb. An he never won a cy young.

@Bill_Woo

Жыл бұрын

Truth. I would only make one caveat, in that you have to put Babe Ruth underneath, with an asterisk. Most underrated pitcher in history. Really, possibly most underrated player as well.

Cool. Pedro made #6. The thing about the top 10 is that any of these guys can make a top 3 argument. Blown away by this group.

Did I miss something? Sandy Koufax was a pretty fair pitcher.

@sportspotlight6722

4 ай бұрын

Fair pitcher indeed

@user-tw9mt8io2u

5 күн бұрын

His problem was he did not play long enough He had a fine peak but nothing else. Lefty Grove had an53.1 WAR from 1928-33 in 1683.2 innings; Sandy Koufax had a 53.1 WAR for his career in 2324.1 innings. Fr the rest of his career Grove had 60.2 WAR in 2257 innings. Lefty Grove had two careers each substantially better than Koufax one. It would be fair to say that Grove was twice the pitcher that Koufax was

How could you leave out Nolan Ryan??? Best pitcher ever!!! How about Koufax???

@morrisparrish76

Жыл бұрын

That’s what’s wrong with these top 10 lists: some deserving people are left off & some questionable people are put on!…..either way; it’s fucked up!

@alansnow1129

9 ай бұрын

Cos Ryan was great but he lost a lot of games

@morrisparrish76

9 ай бұрын

@@alansnow1129 everyone that won lots of games also lost a lot of games!

@freeguy77

9 ай бұрын

@@alansnow1129 112 ERA+ is barely better than the average pitcher! 2,795 Walks, a large 1.25 WHIP, 321 HRs given up, a low .526 Win Pct., with his 292 Losses. He was no Walter Johnson with 279 Losses but far more wins at 417, and his 1.06 WHIP was sensational, as was his MLB leading 110 ShO; large 147 ERA+ dwarfs Ryan's by a huge margin, etc.

@user-tw9mt8io2u

5 күн бұрын

@@freeguy77 There is nothing so ugly as the death of a beautiful Idea at the hands of an ugly fact.--Thomas Huxley

I'd take Koufax.

@Bill_Woo

Жыл бұрын

I was hoping I wasn't the only one that noticed that. See my comment above, unless the s-banning KZread b*sta*ds hid it from everyone.

WHERE IN THE HOLY HELL IS NOLAN RYAN? THE FUCK?????

@user-tw9mt8io2u

5 күн бұрын

He is a second tier HOF pitcher. I rank him 70th best of all time without apology but a ton of evidence for that ratings

@whitesoxfan1970

5 күн бұрын

@@user-tw9mt8io2u Ya. No.....go watch baseball man.

Cy Young, Lefty Grove and Kid Nichols should be on that list.. Check the stats.. Sandy Koufax no slouch either.. Satchel Paige..? I'd take Verlander over Kershaw too for honorable mention.. I mean the reality is, Eddie Feigner would put all these guys in the dust doing it with bigger balls and only four guys.. haha At least you got Walter Johnson right and the other guys are all good too tho some debate about top ten..

@mikeimpressionsreviews9831

8 ай бұрын

Yea for the 1800s Kid Nichols Old Hoss Radbourn and Pud Galvin

No Nolan Ryan?

Cy Young missing from this list makes no sense... I would almost, almost, put Nolan Ryan over Clemens, but I'm bias since I'm a Yankee fan.

@Vedioviswritingservice

Жыл бұрын

Tom Seaver

Steve carlton? As well??????? Warren spahn?

Clayton Kershaw, no way…. Mariano Rivera should be on a separate greatest reliever list……Pedro Martinez, no. Bob Gibson, yes…but then you must have Tom Seaver, Sandy Koufax, Nolan Ryan and Steve Carlton.

@JR-mc1rn

9 ай бұрын

It’s tough…so many great pitchers… probably have to cite greatest pitchers for each decade…

@sportspotlight6722

2 ай бұрын

2 pitches and no one could hit them

I love Randy Johnson

@sportspotlight6722

2 ай бұрын

Great player and only a bird disagrees.

@user-tw9mt8io2u

5 күн бұрын

@@sportspotlight6722 is that because he did not get first base on the HBP

And Cy Young?

No Koufax?

Satchell Paige & Koufax were the best along with Johnson

Solid picks, but no Nolan Ryan???? Hmmmm

Mariano Rivera was great, but we can't put him on the list. He pitched two innings or less per outing.

@danielbonner8309

Жыл бұрын

That'd be a good point, however he played more games and is innings pitched were right on par with starters.

If Nolan Ryan is not on your list, your list is completely invalid & without merit !!!

@sportspotlight6722

4 ай бұрын

You be surprised how many all time lists do not have him. It is for a reason

Can anyone explain why Nolan isn't on the list?

@morrisparrish76

Жыл бұрын

None that can pass the giggle test!

How Tom Seaver, Sandy Koufax and Steve Carlton aren’t on this list is astounding. A gross oversight. Roger Clemons doesn’t belong here because of his steroid use.

Koufax, Gibson,

this video is too much about statistics. one would need to define what they look for, in a "best pitcher". my main definition would be which pitcher did batters find most difficult to hit ? now i havent seen all of these pitchers. and it is very difficult to compare pitchers of different eras. but from my definition, there is one that is heads and tails better than anyone else in his era. that is mr. K. he was almost unhittable. bob gibson was good, but in no way was he as good as sandy. i knew nolan mostly when he was wild with the mets. koufax was very special. i really doubt if there was any other pitcher at any other time who was that good against his competition, during his peak years. i think you would get an almost unanimous agreement with me from THOSE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY WATCHED KOUFAX PITCH, LIVE. i dont have to read statistics, view best of videos, or anything else. I WAS THERE. he was that good !!

@sportspotlight6722

4 ай бұрын

Being difficult to hit was the point of a pitcher so that would be the #1 criteria and the person who was most feared was... Rivera

@jimmybrice6360

4 ай бұрын

@@sportspotlight6722 i dont know anything about him. but koufax, during his peak years, is a talent that comes around once a century. i am betting that you are not old enough to have seen him pitch. if not, you have no idea how good he was.

@jimmybrice6360

4 ай бұрын

@@sportspotlight6722 i hadn't seen this video since my original comment. so i was just thinking that you ranked gibson ahead of koufax. but now i realize that koufax was not even in your top 10. something that stupid tells me that you dont know what you are talking about, period. there was one man who won all 3 world series games in 1968. and it was not bob gibson, although he pitched well, and won 2 games. it was mickey lolich. the last one with just 2 days rest. back then, the pitchers had it a lot tougher. the problem with almost all sports videos is that people make comments about players that they have never seen. and those eras that they did not live thru. they do not know all the rules, and equipment, and all sorts of other changes in the sport. to really make accurate, informed opinions, one needs to have followed that sport during the time of the particular player in question. back then, there werent steroids, for example. in basketball, you actually had to dribble the ball. you couldnt carry the ball, take 500 steps before shooting, and every other crazy thing they allow today. in tennis they played with WOOD rackets, not the extra special ones that they use today. in comparison, today's rackets almost hit the ball all by themselves. it is day and night difference. even a lot more different than wood bats versus aluminum bats. so whenever someone bad mouths old tennis players, i tell them to come back after they have played with a wood tennis racket. until then, they dont have a clue about what they are talking about. and as far as i can tell, you are fairly clueless as well.

@user-tw9mt8io2u

5 күн бұрын

@@jimmybrice6360 A peak like Koufax'x comes along about once every 15 years. Since 1920 there have been 13 peaks over 40 by Lefty Grove (2), Bob Feller, Hal Newhouser, Robin Roberts, Sandy Koufax, Tom Seaver,, Phil Niekro, Roger Clemens, Greg Maddux and Pedro Martinez.

@jimmybrice6360

5 күн бұрын

@@user-tw9mt8io2u how many of these pitchers at their peaks were as good as sandy at his peak ? this is what i am saying. seaver was good, but not as good as K. and i hope you are not seriously comparing phil niekro to K ? i havent seen any of those other pitchers, but my guess is that K is the best of them. that sort of talent comes by a lot less than every 15 years. are you old enough to have seen him pitch, while he was pitching ? or are you just looking at videos and stats ? for those who are actually old enough, you will get another story from them. he was unhittable in a way that i have never seen another pitcher like him. not marichal, not gibson, NO ONE.

Where are Cy Young, Nolan Ryan and Sandy Koufax?

@sportspotlight6722

2 ай бұрын

in the HOF?

I see some people disagreeing with the video, kinda new to baseball more of a basketball fan, can someone explain why Nolan Ryan being left off the list is controversial?

@jacjr6193

10 ай бұрын

Records for most strikeouts and no hitters. Besides that he was a workhorse that pitched a record 27 seasons, 1 of 5 pitchers who have more strikeouts than innings pitched, and his career batting average against is .204 which is the lowest for a starting pitchers career. However he did have some control issues which is why he is also the career leader in walks.

@freeguy77

9 ай бұрын

@@jacjr6193 112 ERA+ is nothing to consider being Top 10, nor his 2,795 Walks, 321 HRs given up, 3.19 ERA, 292 Losses, etc. Barely over an average pitcher with his 112 ERA+, almost 300 Losses, almost 2,800 Walks, etc. I wuld not put him in any key game I had to win! W. Johnson, C. Mathewson, Pete Alexander, Bob Gibson, or Lefty Grove would be my Starting 5 as the most competitive, best one-game-to-win pitchers! And if I had to have a 6th, it would be Greg Maddux. The guy was unbelievable! Low Walk %, (similar to Mathewson), an excellent W-L % (.610), a terrific 132 ERA+ (beats Kourfax at 131), and a 1.14 WHIP. Also beats Koufax on HR/9 with his 0.6 / 9; Koufax 0.8 / 9. Koufax only pitched 6 good years of his 12, and only his final 4 were considered outstanding. So, not all his own fault, but he wasted half his career trying to learn how to pitch. Maddux was wonderful by his 3rd year, pitching 23 years. Longevity has to count more than only 4 outstanding years as Koufax had (1963-66). And 5,008 IP for Maddux is far superior to K-man's 2,324.

@jacjr6193

9 ай бұрын

@@freeguy77 nice 5. Here’s mine without copying any of your guys. Sandy Koufax, Pedro Martinez, Randy Johnson, Greg Maddux, and Curt Schilling assuming this is do or die, win or go home, etc.

@sportspotlight6722

2 ай бұрын

Because people do not like their favorite player being left out and they ignore all the stats overall

Kofax the goat for sure??

@sportspotlight6722

2 ай бұрын

In the eyes of many, yes.

@user-tw9mt8io2u

5 күн бұрын

He is a fan favorite. My dad saw Lefty Grove pitch and told me that Grove was better. And ost evidence says he is.

No Verlander?

Wheres Steve Carlton, Bob feller, Nolan Ryan, I would put verlander or sherzer here before kershaw what a joke of a list 😂

yeah I think may have forgot about Nolan

And my 10th pick is Fernando Valenzuela

@thebrutaljudge9883

Жыл бұрын

was good for 5 seconds.....you gotta be a trolll right ?

Sorry, guys, but a "best pitcher" list without Sandy Koufax is simply BOGUS!!

@sportspotlight6722

2 ай бұрын

Well it happened

No Sandy Koufax!? Are you high?

@sportspotlight6722

4 ай бұрын

At least you are giving me an excuse. I like it

Htf are you not going to put Jacob deGrom on the list?

How do you not have Koufax on here???

@fjbrandon6044

11 ай бұрын

Amen. Sandy won 3 Cy Young awards when baseball had just one, not 2 and had an ERA of .95 in 50+ World Series innings. Kershaw in the World Series has an ERA over 4.00

I’ve got one question: WTF is your criteria for picking this list?

@sportspotlight6722

2 ай бұрын

Being a good pitcher

@morrisparrish76

2 ай бұрын

@@sportspotlight6722 The best means more than merely “good”! (To me!)

Without Nolan Ryan?

@sportspotlight6722

2 ай бұрын

Without indeed

Sandy Koufax Chopped liver?😂😂

@sportspotlight6722

2 ай бұрын

not chopped just left out

Nolan Ryan Doc Gooden Your crazy.

What is a WHIP please?

@sportspotlight6722

4 ай бұрын

Walks plus hits per inning pitched

@3vimages471

4 ай бұрын

Thanks @@sportspotlight6722

BEST CAREER,VS BEST IN PRIME, DEBATE

@sportspotlight6722

2 ай бұрын

Its hard with a sport over 100 years old

Koufax? Carlton? Seaver?

@sportspotlight6722

2 ай бұрын

NOOOO not carlton

Koufax was the greatest pitcher of all time. It's not even close.

@sportspotlight6722

2 ай бұрын

well it is close and koufax had like 4 good years

How, just how, do you keep Koufax off this list?

@sportspotlight6722

4 ай бұрын

Someone had to miss the cut.

Nolan Ryan and Cy Young not on the list? Not even honorable mention?

@sportspotlight6722

4 ай бұрын

This comment is their honorable mention.

Nolan Ryan?

@sportspotlight6722

2 ай бұрын

haha no

Where is Cy Young? Why are there is Clemens on here but no Lefty Grove or Sandy Koufax? You basically went with pitchers after 1960.

@sportspotlight6722

2 ай бұрын

not found here