Honorable mention: Lu Bu Not because his design is hated. He just brings PTSD in fighting him in every DW game excluding 9

@TheNightowlGaming

23 күн бұрын

Hes definitely not hated lol, people love him!

@imanlxix8314

23 күн бұрын

fr fr, i played DW6 and that objective of beating Lu Bu at Battle of Hu Lao Gate is a nightmare

@michel4rthur

21 күн бұрын

@@TheNightowlGaming In DW8 enemies can switch their weapons and you were frozen if they used mosou. The only ways to counter were if you were blocking or using your own mosou (which takes longer to build than in 7). You were pretty much f-ed if Lu Bu does the phantom halberd switch or does a mosou on you.

@zhangfei7239

12 күн бұрын

Lu bu is Basically a God. He was the most Feared man alive in china back in his days And strongest I like him

@chaseisraw

6 күн бұрын

Bro everytime I get a friend to play DW I always tell them if you see lu bu you do not fight him he will literally fuck you up. I dont fight him so you dont fight him. But they always gotta see like he not that tough than one hit later game over like bro wtf did I just say lol. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 lu bu is the the best though lol.

To this day, I still find it funny how Ma Chao says he uses his spear for justice while committing war crimes, but it was common during that era, so I won't say much

@The_Green_Dragon1993

25 күн бұрын

"I fight for War Crimes" - Ma Chao

@djn6962

25 күн бұрын

Even vaillains and assholes think they are righteous haha (Ma Chao is great!)

@TayjonTheGreekWarrior_YT

25 күн бұрын

@Desmond_the_Creed I am Ma Chao, and this is my spear of war crimes

@The_Green_Dragon1993

25 күн бұрын

​@@TayjonTheGreekWarrior_YT says he is a man of justice, murders a whole family.

@TayjonTheGreekWarrior_YT

25 күн бұрын

@Desmond_the_Creed and that's why Wang Yi was on demon time until ma chao's death in 222 ad

Zhang Fei literally don't need romance in his character, he already have good enough dynamics others character like his brothers and Xing Cai

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

Even still if he does just make it more appropriate..

@PuchimonExtreme

24 күн бұрын

They probably tried adding a few female characters every game because of those *cough* "priorities". That being said, its the Three Kingdoms era, none of the women were actually very notable. So the "lottery pool" or whatever decision making process ended up with "why are you even here" characters like Dong Bai and Xiahou Ji. (Even Xing Cai is a combination of multiple women) Which makes things worse for Shu because in actual history, Zhang Fei found out that she was from a good family and married her. (which pretty much means abducted and force a marriage either by rumors or rape. Whichever comes first) We can't have that since the entire "storytelling society of the Three Kingdoms era" in general insist on making Shu out to be the good guys.

@creamychicken6144

19 күн бұрын

@@PuchimonExtreme If they're gonna add female characters, atleast give us some that would bring new perspectives to the story. Duchess Cao Jie & Grand Princess Sun Luban would have been great.

I'm happy my dude Zhang Jiao aint in this list :D "Go! ye children of the yellow turbans!" **Yellow Storm tunes in**

@scoutlord98phantomking

25 күн бұрын

I enjoy Jiang jiao . I like his side mission where he joins shu .

@leejimmy9679

24 күн бұрын

@@scoutlord98phantomking Zhang ManCheng ~~~~ re~~ceive the powa~~~r

@karabomafa5609

24 күн бұрын

We follow the Way Of Peace🙌

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

Dude did really well in the overall polls, got higher than Liu Bei which is crazy!

@infinitememegod

24 күн бұрын

@@TheNightowlGamingyou can hate liu bei, but you cannot hate a yellow banana.

Liu Shan deserves no hate.... his dad gave him brain damage when he was a baby

@TheNightowlGaming

21 күн бұрын

lol tru

@Miraihi

17 күн бұрын

Liu Shan has a bit too attractive and heroic character design for the character he actually is.

Dong Zhuo and Yuan Shu probably shouldn't really be on this list simply because there is a huge difference between simply hating a character because they are a villain, versus hating them because they are a poorly written character.

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

For sure! but still with the polls and people knowing they did drop them down there, so I had to include, but I totally get what you mean

@sacredscars5758

24 күн бұрын

Well, and there were 2 honorable mentions. 😉

Holy crap I was playing DW4 while watching this and when you played the DW4 cutscene for Yuan Shao it actually lined up PERFECTLY with my game as I just started that cutscene

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

LOL Lets go!!

In wrestling being hated is better than evoking no emotion from the audience.. we love to hate characters like Dong Zhuo,Zhang Jiao,Yuan Shao etc. it's better than characters like Bao Sanniang, Xiahou Ba, Guan Suo etc. who we just don't care about

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

For sure

@Chengyuan79

24 күн бұрын

I see a pro wrestling comment, I upvote. 😅 Heels (bad guys) are needed to make babyfaces (good guys) look good. That's why DW expanding the roster always (like AEW) doesn't make sense. Not every character has a Cody Rhodes fairytale. There are only these many tropes to recycle. That's why some of these "hated" characters appear. E.g. Lolli girls to hopefully appeal to even more audience. But, if done badly, they will turn loyal fans away instead. P.S. Bump for Liao Hua. His story would be awesome, IF DONE RIGHT. 😅

DW7 Gan Ning "Look how they massacred my boy"

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

I just got a comment that said they love DW7 Gan Ning and onwards vs the old Gan Ning 👀

@Meowmixery

22 күн бұрын

DW8 Gan Ning|Also DW5 were best iteration IMO granted I only played a few..I have yet to play 9 since I wanted to platninum 8 first|at 77% currently an I am already dreading every Chaos map an all weaponry.

@Wreck1990

16 күн бұрын

It's when I stopped playing DWs.

For the record, Sima Yi also married Zhang Chunhua when she's like... 12-14. But take a look of how she is in DW. That means they could have done a Chunhua on Xiahouji and make her older, but they did NOT!

@TheNightowlGaming

23 күн бұрын

Exactly! (i didnt know that, thats crazy) BUT exactly!

@RosyMiranto

23 күн бұрын

@@TheNightowlGaming though i checked and... Yeah, Chunhua is born in 189, the marriage happened at 202. Though it's modtly because of Sima Fang (Yi's father arranged it), so... It's not exactky Sima Yi's fault. Just how it is with arranged marriages.

I think KOEIs weapons + personalities that they attach towards a character matters so much cuz this list is wild haha

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

Wild yes, but accurate and makes sense absolutely!

i hate Sun Quan, Cao Pi quote on him describe perfectly why: "It shames me to lose to a flip-flopping turncoat like you". I hate traitors, and Sun Quan is one of them

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

@@ClydeShackled lol yeah I could see that 😂

@Themultiroleman

18 күн бұрын

It gets even worse in the novel after Yiling. Just ask Lu Xun.

@cyberrodrigo

4 күн бұрын

I hate Lu Meng in DW5 as a fighter, he is quite basic and boring as I hate all the leaders as Cao Cao fighting style for example, but because they just swing a sword and almost they share the same movements. But in story, they are all in between ok to great.

I also hate Dong Zhuo and Yuan Shu. In my opinion, if we put Dong Zhuo and Zhang Jiao in comparison, Dong Zhuo was far worse even though Zhang Jiao was the one that started the three kingdoms conflict. Although Zhang Jiao rebelled to the imperial Han, his rebellion was to replace the corrupt government for the betterment of the people who suffered under it. Unlike Dong Zhuo, who desires power and pleasure all to himself, ruled the government with cruelty and tyranny, brought harm and suffering to the people. He was a literal embodiment of greed. The same goes to Yuan Shu, he declared himself as emperor way too early. Even though the other warlords probably had the same ambition, but they still kept it to themselves because they felt grateful of the Han dynasty and ought to serve it to the very end. His actions only made him branded as traitor by the other warlords and he suffered massive losses because of it

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

100% they serve their parts well and it makes sense they're here

@ValetinoLovebird

24 күн бұрын

One wanted to cleanse the corruption....the other wanted the corrupted to stay in power because he too was corrupted

@PuchimonExtreme

24 күн бұрын

Zhang Jiao (and technically Liu Shan) was probably the only "good guy" in the whole war. Everyone else were probably hypocrites or assholes.

@UnshotSpy

22 күн бұрын

Well sadly that's just how the real people were in real history, and I think that they are portrayed well in the games. Though I do tend to prefer the older designs for Dong Zhuo, the overly hog like design he has in the new games is a little too on the noise IMO.

I actually like Dong Bai, but it would have been better if say she was a antagonist for Lubu trying to avenge her grandfather, but due to her age she's blind to how tyrannical he actually was. And then half way into a Lubu story angle she would join him in the what if. Or possibly join cao cao to fight him. She has alot of potential just due to being Zhuos grand daughter.

@TheNightowlGaming

21 күн бұрын

For sure

@Chaoxide666

21 күн бұрын

@@TheNightowlGaming yeah they just need to figure out a proper character path for her.

when i heard the Ace Ventura "Nobody wants to play with me" i couldn't help but crack up laughing lmao XDD

@TheNightowlGaming

21 күн бұрын

LOL les gooo!!

@mattjasek8874

21 күн бұрын

@@TheNightowlGaming gotta love Jim Carrey....guy's hilarious lmao XDD

I will never hate xu zhu. Even if its not an accurate depiction i still love this man and for a good reason. The wei roaster is usually filled with stoic or cunning characters, but xu zhu is the least threatening looking of them. To me, that makes him stand out more and helps show that wei isn't all doom and gloom. Also, the club is not so bad. I've played worse weapons in this series.

@x01021

24 күн бұрын

It’s still an odd choice. The Wo Long DLC depiction of him is far more accurate to how he is portrayed in Chinese culture (I can’t say history because it’s impossible to know what people actually looked like back then). He is described as a large and strong hot headed man, not fluffy giant baby lmao

@Tmaster-pb5nt

24 күн бұрын

​@x01021 True, but like said. The guy stands out. If he was not in the wei rooster it would feel off. I mean he's been here since the first game.

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

For sure, I think for him they need to dial back the "hes not smart" thing, and give him those oblivious moments sure, but not so much that it overshadows his abilities

What I'm getting from this Top 10 is nothing characters being added who doesn't brings anything to the story, characters who are ruined in a sense cause Japan likes to add quirks to characters, AND Japan culture being weird overthere having different laws on what they like so characters like XiahouJi somehow gets into the game. By votes no less

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

thats what I heard too.. but still KT gets final say and they still think.. yeah thats a good idea..

Xu Zhu's problem isn't his club but his sheer speed. I have ZERO idea why Koei made him soo god damn fat that his speed is soo slow. His swings are slow, combos are slow and yes, the damage is high but it's just not worth it. Mid swing often sees you getting swiped by speedier generals and it's really NOT fun. Now Han Dang is interesting. Koei did take character liberties but for once, it IS actually really portrayed well with Han Dang's actual recorded behavior or, somewhat of a portrayal. Like many other Wu generals of the time with Sun Jian, they were nothing but mercenaries from the Jiangdong region who would serve lords that pays them well, Han Dang included. However unlike other Dongwu generals like Cheng Pu, Huang Gai so on, Han Dang was never officially inducted as a proper Wu officer till real late in his life and only when Sun Quan got into power and also after the whole battle of Chibi happened. It was only after he went with Lu Meng to claim Jingzhou that he got inducted into the official Wu generals group. That's why the portrayal in the game is actually quite good cuz that's how Han Dang is. Courageous but always wanted more so that he can officially be ranked as a proper Wu officer rather than being a mere junior officer despite fighting for the Sun clan for half his life.

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

thats amazing and a great backstory to the character but because none of the games focus on that (an origin so to speak) we only get the whiny annoying part but not understanding why, theres also ways to make it more grounded, but I do get it now that u explained it, ty!

I feel Dong Bai's design was to capitalize on Gracia's popularity. But Gracia was more likeable and the gothic Lolita look made some sense as she did convert to Christianity and took a western name.

@TheNightowlGaming

23 күн бұрын

Oh yeah, I just got introduced to Gracia, dont know much about her

@benjamincuevas9627

23 күн бұрын

@@TheNightowlGaming not much to her, the games don't go into her Christian conversion and instead treats her as a joke character. SW4 did age her up a bit and gave her a slightly more serious arc but she's still comically beating guys up with her bare fist. Probably one of the few characters to use bare fist before SW5 so she has that going for her.

The Sima Udder Cameo…😂

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

👀😁

Considering all of the women they’ve added to the game, I’m still puzzled as to why they don’t add in one woman from the actual story - Lady Wu aka Sun Jian’s wife and the mother of the Sun siblings. She actually has some big scenes in the book. 😁

@TheNightowlGaming

17 күн бұрын

thatd be dope!

@michaell8000

22 сағат бұрын

the problem is the latest games pretty much kill Sun Jian off ASAP so they can then kill Sun CE and then have Sun Quan have second child inheriting issues.

I mean judging by what we can gather about Dong Bai in History she didn't even make it to her 14th birthday before being executed so while she could be older, just because we don't have anything concrete, it'd be similar to making Sun Ce a middle aged man. With that said I will take an much older version of her if she gets to appear past the 190's, it'd only make sense. EDIT: On a similar note, I understand why Xiahou Ji is here because it completes the Peach garden oath vs Cao/Xiahou triangle in terms of Rivalry and on paper that is awesome. The Issue is as said, she's looks too young for very little reason and it's really only hurting Zhang Fei's fictional portrayal, meanwhile this is doing very Little for Xiahou Yuan who's already beloved, Xiahou Ba also is missing interactions with her for whatever reason, She's really being misused to the point where it's an active detriment to the game. It's the issue with several of the Shu picks on this list but actually effecting things negatively.

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

For sure, I can understand the Dong Bai thing but still they developed a fictional DLC for her, they could make her a little older than the way she is & xiahouji is just a whole miss and a half

@The Nightowl Han Dang actually first appeared in Dynasty Warriors 2 as a Generic Elite Officer, Hua Xiong also first appeared in Dynasty Warriors 2 as a Generic Elite Officer, and Guan Suo.....same thing.

@ShadowOfCicero

24 күн бұрын

Han Dang was first playable in 4 Empires, and I think Hua Xiong was first playable in 5 Empires. Don't know about Guan Suo.

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

Well yee, but as playable characters they appeared in their respective games, I think han dang was more respectable as an NPC lol thats the issue

I'm not gonna lie my most hated character in all of the dynasty warriors games are the god damn archers, they are literally the bane of my existence in most of the games they do way to much damage, and they knock you off your horse so damn often when your trying to get somewhere fast, I just wanna burn them all anytime I see them.

@Chengyuan79

24 күн бұрын

😅

@TheNightowlGaming

23 күн бұрын

I think we can all agree on that one 🍻

My main problem with Xiahouji is that she is head over heels for Zhang Fei but historically she was most likely kidnapped by him. Some sources speculate that she might have been SA'ed by him, which makes me wonder why she was picked to be in the roster and depicted as a loving wife. She was the victim (at least of kidnapping). She shouldn't be depicted as this young girl to a guy that looks 40 years older than her. There were plenty of marvelous women from this period that still haven't made an appearance in this game. Why they have been passed up is a mystery to me. Ma Yunlu would have been my choice for a new female Shu character.

@TheNightowlGaming

20 күн бұрын

some many better choices, but if they were gonna go w ji they shouldve made her more appropriate..

In defense of Dong Bai. It's amazing and hilarious being bossed around by a goth loli gremlin. Plus, seeing her kill thousands is a blast. Also poor Gua Suo. He just can't find a place to belong

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

@@ShikiHisashi for sure, but it would be cool, of they kept her to maybe start that way, she escapes chang an after dong z dies and she grows up and goes to get revenge, thats be so much more interesting

@ShikiHisashi

24 күн бұрын

@@TheNightowlGaming A Kill Bill style revenge arc? YES PLEASE

I think some of the characters are added in from Legend of Condor Hero. The story kind of ties with Romance of the Three Kingdoms

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

I heard they were from DW Blast as well

i’m sick and tired of the hua xiong disrespect.

@djn6962

25 күн бұрын

I actually really liked his design 😅

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

Thats rough buddy

@dokuganryu1565

16 күн бұрын

I'm tired of the club.

Enjoyed the video! Hope we can get a Samurai Warriors version in the future :D

@TheNightowlGaming

20 күн бұрын

Absolutely, really need to get on learning about them deep enough to make em!

Now. I will say something that will be unpopular. Liu Shan is one of my top 3 characters in the game.

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

Nothing wrong with that at all! I think he's built well I just think people dont like him!

@robertwebb5520

20 күн бұрын

Mine too, i personally think what he did was a very brave thing to do and save a lots of peoples live.

What they did to Hua Xiong just seems mean 😂 I think Dong Bai as a concept is cool, but I agree with you I’m just so sick of the creepy little girls. No more white haired emo girls either like come on now.

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

100% agree on both, they just need some changes

For me its Cao Cao him massacuring the population of Xu province not once but twice and when he's questioned about it by his own people he threatens them with death if they dont stop talking about it. He also overworked the farmers in Jing province to the point of rebellion which is why Guan Yu went to Fan Castle when he did. Cao Ren would put down the farmers and kill the families of everyone involved which caused the entire population to go into hiding. Gonsun Zan: He killed honestly the most kindest character in the historical time period in Liu Yu who lead an army consisting of just ordinary people to put down Gonsun Zan as he was doing awful things but gave the people the stipulations that nobody could set fire to anything or loot or pillage anything. Yuan Shao wanted to install Liu Yu as emperior but Liu Yu turned down the offer several times being loyal to the current emperor.

@TheNightowlGaming

23 күн бұрын

That makes sense, everyone has their personal hates, and thats totall y fine!

The hate aside, I have an easy solution to some of the characters mentioned in this list. But before I start, I just wanna say that I could care less about history accuracy and it's not why I got into the DW series. If I cared about history, I'd just go read a history book about the 3 kingdoms. Now with that out of the way let's start with Dong Bai. Dong Bai to me is an easy fix, just age her up to 20+ years old, make her extremely evil, as evil as Dong Zhuo or worse, give her a significant enough role, change her weapon into a whip (or whatever suits her aesthetic) and we have a character. Now for Bao Sanniang, another easy fix. Make her into a Bandit leader who leads her own gang. Let her have nothing to do with Shu until she meets Guan Suo and make her attempt to rob Guan Suo with her gang of bandits. Loses to Guan Suo but doesn't necessarily fall in love with him but instead admire him for being a strong warrior. Guan Suo recruit Bao Sanniang and her gang to Shu. Make her into a slightly smart character when it comes to ambush tactics because of her years of experience as a bandit. Now onto Xiahou Ji, age her up 40+ years old, a caring single mother to Xing Cai and make both of them unrelated to Zhang Fei and any of his children. Make her into a famous local Swordmaster who taught Xing Cai how to fight and be the one to enlist Xing Cai into Shu as an officer. I too am not a fan of removing characters, instead just change every aspect of a character and that'll be just fine. Love my ideas, hate my ideas, not historically accurate? I don't care, it's a video game that's loosely based on history with a bunch of fictional characters.

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

The ideas are pretty cool, defintely an improvement and thats just surface level, so many easy fixes they just dont want to for some reason

@SnowJester

24 күн бұрын

@@TheNightowlGaming Here's my take on it. It's not that they don't wanna fix it, it's more likely that they don't know how to fix it. The problem stems from them trying to mix in historically accurate elements into a world that's loosely based on the Three Kingdoms with fictional characters. I'm not saying it can't work but let's take Xiahou Ji for example, they want to include a historically accurate character for Zhang Fei and her children, but then they're too afraid to commit to the accurate part of her history (I don't think I have to elaborate further on her actual history) which is why we got this weird halfbaked character. It's like one of those phrases that goes "If you try to please everyone, you end up pleasing no one". They can't decide if they want to go full fictional or make it accurate and face a potential huge backlash because of you know why. Like I've said, it's not like it can't be done well, it's just the matter of execution and how it's presented to the audience. And if I'm going to be honest, they're not good at writing stories in general. The were some good storytelling here and there sure, but if you look at DW as a whole, most of them are pretty mid to bad to wtf. To me what really carried DW's stories up till now are the characters and the interaction that they have with each other, and some are very meaningful with important life lessons. I hope what I'm saying makes sense as I'm not the best at explaining these types of stuff very well.

@boshman11

19 күн бұрын

yeah just age em up, it doesn‘t have to be historically accurate on ages when it isn‘t on sooo many other things. Can even keep their design philosophies and have them have the same style and weapons, just a reasonable age.

For Guan Suo to me it's a mix of how he is not a historical person, his main role is already filled by his brothers and his sister, and lastly just how him being added fits well into something about Shu that is annoying in general. There are a lot of people in Shu who truly should of been added to the games a while back but instead we keep getting people like Guan Suo, Zhou Cang and Bao Sanniang, who were not even real abd don't add to the story. Just some people they could add are Wang Ping, Zhang Ni, Ma Zhong, Zhang Yi, Li Yan, Liao Hua, Jiang Wen, Fei Yi, Wu Yi, Wu Ben, Huang Quan and a few more. I don't hate Guan Suo myself, but he is a very good case for a very annoying thing about how Shu is treated in these games. So many characters don't add to the story, are not real in the first place and that last thing is made much more annoying by how their are a lot of important people with impressive records from Shu they could add.

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

reading this and so many others, I have a theory they went with these characters cause if they added people who actually did significant things it would make more work for them instead of adding someone fake and doing nothing with them

I understand why Bao Sanniang is hated, one of the reason is she is a new characters in Dynasty Warriors 7 and she's not appear in game as allies or enemies (also Cai Wenji is the same, but not hated tho), there are a lot new Dynasty Warriors 7 characters that not playable but appear as allies or enemies like Lian Shi, Ding Feng, and Ma Dai and many other

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

makes sense, just wish they gave her some depth

Letsss go under 1 minute gang again 😂🎉

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

LOL I went to sleep right away, so I didnt even see it till now lol

Happy to see my boy Zhong Hui not on here. (I only realized half way through that I already watched the other full video, so should have known.)

@karabomafa5609

24 күн бұрын

Zhong Hui is that guy💪

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

LOL yup!

Great vid, can you do a samurai warriors version of this?

Even though I like Zhou Cang just because he's an exclusive from Warriors All-Stars. I agree with you, should have been Liao Hua.

@TheNightowlGaming

23 күн бұрын

Exactly!

Hua Xiong was someone I was excited to play as, especially after the what if route for Lu bu back in 7 or 8 where he saves the day

@TheNightowlGaming

Күн бұрын

he was great in 8, they shouldve just kept him similar to that..

Han Dang: "please don't forget about me" Me: pal, the fact that you are the only one that worry about being forgotten makes you hard to be not remembered. Altho, I will remember you as one of the most annoying, tho"

@TheNightowlGaming

17 күн бұрын

thats how he gets us lol

Picking your guy in Dynasty Warriors isn't about the story or the look of a character as much as it's about how easily you can use their attacks.

@TheNightowlGaming

9 күн бұрын

can totally agree

The Two Qiao's literally 12 years old for every DW games 💀

@TheNightowlGaming

17 сағат бұрын

Yeah...

Me personally I love Yuan Shu, he’s pretty notable to the story, his design is DAZZLING ✨ and he’s great counterpart to his brother, Yuan Shao. (Plus his massive arrogance is funny with the honey water.)

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

Lol and thats totally fine!

can you make a video about the most known characters regardless if they are hated or loved by the community?

@TheNightowlGaming

23 күн бұрын

Hmmm most known by the communit I think i know what you mean!

Curious if you think there are any character who got better or worse after their initial introduction.

@TheNightowlGaming

8 күн бұрын

Mmm I think most of them got better looks wise, maybe gameplay, but story wise besides like DOng and Shan, they didnt improve so they just end up being there to be there which hurt them

@EricDragon08

8 күн бұрын

@@TheNightowlGaming i think origins would be a good time for them to really revamp the more problematic or bad characters. Soft reboot, in some ways.

@TheNightowlGaming

8 күн бұрын

@@EricDragon08 yeah absolutely

Ngl. I forgot about Han Dang until his face appeared. He told me to not forget about him so much that I actually straight up forgot about him. Also I actually like Dong Zhuo. Of the like to hate variety.

@TheNightowlGaming

23 күн бұрын

Yeha that make sense for Dong Zhuo & a lot of people seem to share the sentiment of forgetting the person who doesnt want to be forgotten LOL

i'm agree 100% the level 1 the most characters in dynasty warriors is xiahouji like omg why she is in the game it blow my mind HOW

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

Yep!

Glad jiang wei is not on the least . I fell bad for him what happand later on for shu .

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

He definitely tried hard Late Shu

Dong Bai chaining up Diao Chan and teasing her definitely showed my corrupt brain... Her weapon is meh. The fictional story mode in DW9 was actually the most enjoyment I got out at the game... Yeah that says it all I guess about that game...

@TheNightowlGaming

23 күн бұрын

Yeah they just to make her more significant and explain whys shes there just made no sense

@Lukeywoodsey

23 күн бұрын

@@TheNightowlGaming it was something different, made a change someone hunting Lu Bu rather than the other way around. Bet all the lolicons loved it.... 😳 I was just got I didn't have to do battle of Chi Bo for the 20th time in DW9... Every damn story mode

actually i don’t really care about han dang, but his speech to sun quan before his death in DW9 hit my heart 😢

@TheNightowlGaming

18 күн бұрын

it was so great in DW9, then he just flops down...

This makes me want to try DW9 again even though I didn't make it an hour the first two times. Might just have to play 8 again for actual hack n slash.

@TheNightowlGaming

Сағат бұрын

Dw9 is tough to get through

Why do ppl hate Han Dang tho bro was there since yellow turbans

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

Look at him! Haha in game iteration does not help him

Honestly, the last time I genuinely liked playing as Dong Zhuo was in DW5. His moveset and weapon was so good in DW4 and 5, and he wasn't portrayed to be so much of an ass. Also, notice how almost all of the most hated characters are from DW9, they really didn't know what they were doing with it.

@TheNightowlGaming

11 күн бұрын

or they just didnt care which might've happened

Man I was obsessed with Dynasty Warriors 1 , 2 and 3 Xiahou Yuan and Zhang Liao where my dudes. Holy crap though I had no clue we have come this far in Dynasty Warriors I never knew that had more games come out in all this time. Going to have to pick a few of them up any suggestions ?

@damonyoungblood5488

21 күн бұрын

Kind of same here but I been keeping track and they lost me at 5 with the goofy personalities (Zhang He), weapons that made no sense, and butcher of historical characters. This video only tells me I made the right choice of leaving. The game looks like chaos even outside of the characters he showed. LuBu not using his famous halberd and oh yea more lil girls or just more unnecessary female characters in general 🙄. I switched over to Romance of the three kingdoms for more accuracy and found other historical beat them up that didn’t make history/ancient warfare into a circus show 🤡.

@TheNightowlGaming

21 күн бұрын

if you havent played dw5 & you loved the first 3, you'll love it, DW8XLCE is great too, a little over the top as the gameplay became more anime esque but a ton of content and new characaters

Everyone here is like, WOW

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

wow like expected or unexpected lol

Whaaat dong bai and bao, really i love dong bai. My favorite of the characters added in 9 and my 3rd most played character in 9. And boa is my main from the shu kingdom and xiahoji is my 2nd she really is perfectly fine the way she is....i really need to find the poles you do ...not that one vote would change much lol

@TheNightowlGaming

18 күн бұрын

its just a matter of what they mean in the games, Xiahouji puts a big stain on the game and Zhang Fei! Dong Bai is little misplaced, shes cute & all but she has no significance to the story, same with Bao, those 2 just need to be redeveloped

@filialuvssquigly7447

18 күн бұрын

@@TheNightowlGaming got ya, I guess I can see that

Bao Sanniang was first introduced in the Kessen 2 series. She was a member of shu and also a childhood friend of Liu Bei .

@TheNightowlGaming

20 күн бұрын

Thats mei sanniang but i get where u were going😁

Good list. I like Hua Xiong and Han Dang, both are Chad and dumb. Dong bai is just good in Hua Xiong ending. I like how no Wei forces was here, and almost the list is just Shu and Others

@TheNightowlGaming

19 күн бұрын

yeah its crazy, they just need some more development

>The most accurate >Puts in Zhuge Dan >Puts Sanniang at 4 >Puts her above DONG ZHUO >doesn't even put in Zhu Ran and Xu Zhu Damn

@TheNightowlGaming

11 күн бұрын

thats what the data said 😎😁

@Redhead-pf8le

11 күн бұрын

@@TheNightowlGaming Your data is whack-ass reddit poll bullshit lmao

So Dong Bai, Xiahou Ji, Bao Sanniang are added just because they're female and they're trying to balance out the roster (or at least add female characters where they can), with not many more choices left before totally making things up. What's left? Sun Quan's mom/Sun Jian's wife Lady Wu - but are they going to make her an older lady or like a little girly girl. That would be weird, like how Xiahou JI is right now. There's the fictional Ma Yunlu (Ma Chao's sister) - or Lady Trieu (who they did add in RTK14 as a hidden-ish officer), or Lady Jia Nanfeng for Jin. Han Dang they actually reversed personalities, as in history it's recorded that he gave away credits in battle. Zhou Cang is just kind of weird with the speed thing but I did not play 9. Zhuge Dan had a lame weapon in 8 and he's portrayed pretty close to history as far as I can tell.

@TheNightowlGaming

23 күн бұрын

the women need more depth thats all, zhenji, zhurong ssx yueying are great

@yangyichng5362

23 күн бұрын

Cao cao's second wife bian shi would be a decent choice actually. Given how much power she holds even after cao cao' death and how much the wei kingdom respects her. There are many records of her being the mediator of multiple conflicts

@TheNightowlGaming

23 күн бұрын

@@yangyichng5362 Lady Bian would be dope, maybe they're afraid of her taking spotlight from Cao Cao

@trymv1578

22 күн бұрын

Never assume they'll make the old woman an old woman. They had Himiko as a Dynasty Warriors option via her RTK appearances and they ended up making her young and girly in Warriors Orochi.

yea, they could given us Ma Yun Lu instead of putting Xiahou Ji

@TheNightowlGaming

10 күн бұрын

Yep!

I think people who are fans of the this 800 year old novel would hate all of these characters since the game makers turned the classical characters into these anime characters.

@TheNightowlGaming

17 сағат бұрын

The anime esque was too much but the old games were great

i think the entire roster of DW should be rebooted. I loved DW since DW1, 2, 3... but the more the game progressed the less it becomes as a serious war/battle simulation game and the more it's just a power fantasy + fan service game. Need to reset the entire thing to be more serious.

@TheNightowlGaming

21 күн бұрын

dw origins looks to be heading that way, i hope they dont roster cut but if it makes it better then i guess im ok

Nearly Every character I agree, except Liu Shan. People really disrespect him in the novel and the game. He was quite smart, and the fact that people portrait him like he didnt care of his country at all was due to the speech he said when he was captured and held as hostage in the palaced. When he was asked by the king of wei "Dont you feel sad about the loss of shu?" He answered "Love the place here, no need to think back". What do u want him to say? If he says he felt sad, it means he stilm had ambition and most likely be killed

@TheNightowlGaming

17 күн бұрын

yeah i could see that or he actually meant it, the first step to true peace and unification

So many bad characters added in 8 & 9. They had so many opportunities to add better characters and chose these.

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

@@TylerG60 even still, they could add em and still have them be interesting but the problem is they don't do dat

Thank God none of my favorite Dynasty Warriors characters cracked this top 10 list.

@TheNightowlGaming

21 күн бұрын

Nice 😎

Had to agree that xiahouji should be aged up much much more. She could be the somber female character in the shu roster. A victim of circumstances that accepted her fate and is trying to make best of her situation, trying to look positive but have a melancholy feeling to it. Not this. It's bad enough that us fans in asia openly joked alot that zhang fei is a pedo, but now koei is nailing that concept in to even more people.

@TheNightowlGaming

23 күн бұрын

Yeah it was a weird move.. hopefully it gets rectified

My boie Liu Shan threw his dad's empire into the ground like his dad threw his head into the ground as a baby

@TheNightowlGaming

17 күн бұрын

lmao revenge? hah

Well it was said when LuBu killed Dong Zhuo that he was so fat and greasy that his corpse burned for two days.

@TheNightowlGaming

11 күн бұрын

haha yep!

Xu chu is a beast if used correctly and essentially was who helped get my sister into the games because she developed a huge crush on him ,why ? Idk but the guy is ok in my book for bringing us together to play dynasty warriors and warriors orochi

@TheNightowlGaming

11 күн бұрын

thats an awesome story, hes great in the novel too

This Han Dang hate needs to stop 😭 I adore him as he is ❤️ Liu Shan is amazing too 😢💚…

@djn6962

25 күн бұрын

I was surprised how much I liked Shan. Likely due to being voiced by Steve Staley in 7 & 8 (I find myself liking characters that I shouldn’t because of how well voiced they are haha)

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

Dang, well.. when I take over he might not be the same anymore lol

@thewhocritic

24 күн бұрын

@@TheNightowlGaming petition starting for you not to take over 😂 #SaveOurHanDang

@NoelJohnCarlo

24 күн бұрын

​@@djn6962 Taiki Matsuno passed away though

@djn6962

24 күн бұрын

@@NoelJohnCarloI’m not familiar with the Japanese voice cast. Mainly the English voice cast from 6-8. Played 9 with the mandarin dub, because the new VAs were terrible haha

Crazy we might never see He Qi from Wu… at that point we’d have two Zhang He’s 😭😭😭

@TheNightowlGaming

Күн бұрын

hahah

I love playing Dong Zhuo. Unlike the other warlords, he is transparent about who he is and what he wants. Plus I love irredeemable villains.

@TheNightowlGaming

19 күн бұрын

He was built to be hated, gotta respec that

... Isn't this an old video? Reuploaded?

@TheNightowlGaming

23 күн бұрын

Nope! Old video, redone and much more accurate!

I believe Dong Bai was actually younger in the novel...

@TheNightowlGaming

17 сағат бұрын

Crazy

Liu Shan is like one of my top three favorite characters. He truly doesn't deserve the hate he gets. Shan understands that there is no benevolence in war, that's why he hates it and wishes for peace. Bao Sanniang and Guan Suo would be better if they were in a committed relationship between two young people instead of this shy nonsense. Both just need a total personality change.

@nybxcrotona

16 күн бұрын

Wasn't Shu also in a fairly bad spot by the time he decides to surrender? His ending in 9 shows it's not something he treats lightly, despite having a more carefree face in front of the public.

@TheNightowlGaming

11 күн бұрын

I agree about the couple, Liu Shan will unfortunately be the same cause his portrayal is spot on, a good hypothetical is him getting courage to stand up strong and overcoming Wei through his will

All 9 DLC Characters are on the list

@TheNightowlGaming

11 күн бұрын

yep thats a big indicator of the last games impact

Am I one of the few who doesn't actually hate any Dynasty Warriors character pre redesign

@TheNightowlGaming

11 күн бұрын

you might be!

Bruh, why they gotta do my man Han Dang like that! I actually found his gimmick as the ONLY seemingly normal guy to be quite fun. Also helps he has such a fun weapon 😂

@TheNightowlGaming

20 күн бұрын

his weapon is good, the gimmick is just a little too mcuch lol

I can't help but wonder what Shu would have become if Zhuge Liang had seized power like Liu Bei wanted. I also agree that the number one pick and Dong Bai make no sense. They could have been implemented much better.

@TheNightowlGaming

20 күн бұрын

100%

12:24 ah yes, the throwaway comment about the man that fights with a BENCH. A BENCH. That's a piece of furniture, you dolt Liu Shan.

@TheNightowlGaming

10 күн бұрын

LOL yup!

So glad to see Lui shan here. Have lways hated him even when i was a kid because he's supposed to be Xing Cai's husband.

@TheNightowlGaming

23 күн бұрын

lol thats fair!

I actually love Xiahouji. Her character design is adorable, the move set is fun, and that shield with the bunny is the cutest thing ever. I just wish the design was used for an entirely different character. Perhaps I like her because I primarily played DW9E and didn't make it far enough into DW9 to view her icky cut scenes. Just port her design to someone's grandchild and call it a day. The Bao Sanniang hate is WILD to me. Who cares if she's just there and not fully developed. You can't fully develop ~100 characters and have all of them have any real significance. The spinner was enough reason to add her-hands down one of my favorite weapons.

@TheNightowlGaming

23 күн бұрын

I meannnn you can develop them, if the developers had enough passion to do so! If you add ppl they must be significant otherwise they're just there to play & that does a disservice to other characters who did something in the book/history and are being left out

Valid at all.. i agree with these all most hated character ...

liu shan is a realist which is why i can't bring myself to hate him.

@TheNightowlGaming

21 күн бұрын

thats fair!

bruh Xiahouji is literally one of my top 3. wtf

@TheNightowlGaming

20 күн бұрын

and thats ok! she just needs a little adjustment 😁

Xiahouji being number 1 makes the most sense. Surprised that only 50% of people put her in D or F 😂

@TheNightowlGaming

23 күн бұрын

😂 Right! Makes no sense why she was added, someone must dislike Zhang Fei at KT headquarters

I liked Guan Suo and Bao Sanniang prior to DW9, I don't like their DW9 renders sadly but prior I loved them both!!! I also kinda like Dong Bai, sure she's not really necessary but I think she's fun personally and I really love her design (just wish they aged her up a bit).

@TheNightowlGaming

19 күн бұрын

and thats okay! I hope they develop all of them more

@momopuff

18 күн бұрын

@@TheNightowlGaming Me too!!! A decent storyline for them (like DW5 style) would be perfect!

Oh look, mostly all newer characters. Not surprised.

@TheNightowlGaming

Күн бұрын

lol right

What the FUCK?? LIU SHAN IS #3???😭😭😭 bro he’s been my obsession since I was 9 years old wtf, I love him so much

@TheNightowlGaming

20 күн бұрын

Theres nothing wrong with that! Continue to like who u like, I dont judge, we all love DW and thats amazing in itself😁

Honorable mention: Yuan Shao It feels like he's more annoying than hated. I really love and respected him in DW3-5, before Koei decided to changed him in *WHOLE* new character direction in later games. I know the dude was supposed to be an arrogant overconfident general/commander, but now he's a whiny B&$%# that complains about everything!

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

@@ValorOni can't help but agree

@TriAzF

24 күн бұрын

With Yuan Shu added imo they should change Yuan Shao back to being similar to his DW3-5 self. Not exactly competent and a bit foolish but also not the overly dumb, arrogant guy he is now since Yuan Shu can fill that role better

They did Han Dang very dirty with how they portray the personality that I feel like I preferred him more as the generic officer instead of unique. Honestly I'm not that bothered with the whole fictional character inclusion since as you said, this game is not strictly based on history. But what I'm bothered more is that these characters are shallow, one-dimensional personality. They have much more liberty with the more fictional character, yet they don't expand it.

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

Exactly! They can do whatever they want to add more to them, but just got lazy

2:43 Weight balance on horse has left the chat

@TheNightowlGaming

21 күн бұрын

Horse be jacked

Imo, gotta respect koei to make a literal fake character a playable character 😅

@TheNightowlGaming

17 күн бұрын

lol for sure, at least do something with them!

i hate a lot of characters in DW yet i Love alot of em also ironically XD

@TheNightowlGaming

24 күн бұрын

Lol the perfect balance

I was expecting Lu Bu to be on the list. Oh well.

@TheNightowlGaming

17 сағат бұрын

Nah only 2.5% dislike him

@erik299188

17 сағат бұрын

@@TheNightowlGaming Really? Because that mf one shot me every time he was in the mission

I was expecting to see Zuo Ci and Lianshi in this list, Zuo Ci was added to test the next generation i.e. Sun Ce and Cao Pi but was very ineffective and just a reason to add more stages to fight on. and lianshi is so bland that her whole personality is Sun ShangXiang's bodyguard at first then with no warning turns into Sun Quan's wife, which is historically accurate but in the games she has been in, it always felt like they didn't show any of the romance of it and it felt added on as an afterthought unlike the other Wu couples (Xiao sisters and Sun Ce and Zhou Yu) or ever Cao Pi and Zhenji, even Diaochan and Dong Zhuo gets more screen time as a couple.

@TheNightowlGaming

7 күн бұрын

interesting takes, they were more liked than you think!

I’ve been playing Dw since no.2 and when dw9 came out riddled with all them bugs and performance issues etc I dropped the game completely. I have tried it again since a lot was fixed but still can’t get into it. However this list has shown me that many of the new character additions in later games are just not liked at all.

@TheNightowlGaming

18 күн бұрын

yeaah they just not developed like before

Hua Xiong should have been a playable character though, he was meant to be one of the strongest warriors under dong zhuo (along with Lu Bu and Zhang Liao) the only reason he died was because he fought Guan Yu and Guan Yu is much more powerful. the problem was Hua Xiong shoudn't have had a hammer as a weapon...he never did in the other versions of the game. there was even an interview about problems in the later DW games and this was raised as one of them...a lot of people though Hua Xiong's weapon was very innacurate to his play style.

@TheNightowlGaming

17 сағат бұрын

His iteration in 8xl was good he should've been like that

@IDyce88

17 сағат бұрын

@@TheNightowlGaming and yet the hammer didn;t suit him...he should have had a spear or glaive