Top 10 Hardest Bosses That Were Not End Bosses in World of Warcraft

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In this video we'll be going over the hardest raid bosses in the game that were not the end boss of their raid, which is usually the hardest boss in whichever raid you're doing.
Video edited by The Flying Buttress
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-The List-
Intro: (0:00)
10- Ouro: (0:14)
9- Fetid Devourer: (2:19)
8- Siegecrafter Blackfuse - 229: (3:52)
7- Dark Animus: (6:10)
6- Star Augur: (9:58)
5- Vaelastrasz the Corrupt: (11:48)
4- Hodir Hard Mode: (13:39)
3- Spine of Deathwing: (16:34)
2- Fallen Avatar: (20:35)
1- M'uru: (23:35)
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  • @Eli-zl5wv
    @Eli-zl5wv3 жыл бұрын

    And at #1 we have Gunther Arcanus. He has an ability that tricks the player into thinking he isn't a raid boss. He's gone 16 years without being killed

  • @Fishtony7
    @Fishtony73 жыл бұрын

    I see the title and knew right away that it would be M'Uru as No1. Still remember being parked outside the raid and just buff the raid while endless upon endless wipes occured near 10%.

  • @jerry1dc

    @jerry1dc

    3 жыл бұрын

    fellow mage?

  • @Anolaana

    @Anolaana

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also, half of his other raid boss videos have said M'uru haha

  • @steventhorpe9402

    @steventhorpe9402

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AnolaanaI just sat outside buffing Kings to raid night after night

  • @johnb4764

    @johnb4764

    7 ай бұрын

    I agree, Muru is number one before I saw the list

  • @NickAltieri
    @NickAltieri3 жыл бұрын

    Top 10 world firsts with the most class stacking. I’d like to see that

  • @zzzJulleZZZ

    @zzzJulleZZZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    This so much

  • @sentisnax

    @sentisnax

    3 жыл бұрын

    If anything beats Fallen Avatar or Uu'nat, I'd be surprised and mistaken in my assumptions

  • @jandegrote1

    @jandegrote1

    3 жыл бұрын

    number 1 Nefarian in blackwing decent 100%

  • @unholyallen9572

    @unholyallen9572

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jandegrote1 why

  • @jandegrote1

    @jandegrote1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@unholyallen9572 Think Paragon on nef 25 HC had 10 feral druids.

  • @abdukystain9411
    @abdukystain94113 жыл бұрын

    One of the main reasons Vael was such a pain in the ass was that when he first was out...if you didnt kill him within an hour, you were locked out of the rest of the raid till reset

  • @burningisis

    @burningisis

    3 жыл бұрын

    Its ok, just kite the raid to Vael's room

  • @stul0031

    @stul0031

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also it's not "if you get unlucky he'll pick all of your tanks" it's every third burning adrenaline targets the highest threat raid member, so the current tank.

  • @zoldam3778

    @zoldam3778

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@fredriksvard2603 Back then everyone did terrible DPS, so getting 3 wasn't that uncommon.

  • @corintibbetts-harlow8021

    @corintibbetts-harlow8021

    2 жыл бұрын

    Honestly all the Vael part was pretty misinformed tbh. It wasn't difficult because of personal responsibility or because of getting unlucky and your tanks getting picked. Tanks were guaranteed to get selected every 3rd BA as someone above said, so over the course of the fight you would have to tank swap 4 or 5 times; this was the hard part. You needed your warriors to manage their threat so that when each tank got BA and died, the next one up to tank was second highest on threat and could seamlessly move in and take aggro without turning Vael. He had a frontal fire breath and a chaining cleave, either of which would easily cause a wipe if a single one went off into the raid. Vael was also immune to taunt and because of the BA buff, threat generation was through the roof for all your dps, so managing threat for the tank swap and not having any other dps pull aggro or mess up the tank swap transitions was tricky, especially because it was so unlike any other fight that had come before it; you had had to manage threat before, but there really weren't many bosses with dps checks / enrage mechanics at that point in the game, so the way most players were used to managing threat was just by slowing / stopping dps if things looked dicey. There also weren't any accurate threat meter addons at the time, and even dps meters were pretty unreliable, not to mention exactly how threat worked was pretty murky at this point. Lastly, it was a reasonably intense healing check with constant aoe damage going out onto the whole raid which required spam aoe healing, which again players weren't used to; healing output at this time was heavily limited by mana pools and regen outside of the 5 second rule, which lead to a playstyle of being very conservative with your casts as a healer; this fight was the complete opposite of that. Combine all that with a 1 hour per reset window in which to attempt the boss (that was removed after a few weeks of BWL's release iirc), and you've got a big roadblock for most guilds.

  • @charlesc4511
    @charlesc45113 жыл бұрын

    M'uru, M'uru, M'uru, and M'uru. RIP my old guild.

  • @nicedreams7192
    @nicedreams71923 жыл бұрын

    I like that you only do 1 per raid for variety, I think it works well. I wouldn't mind a little section of "Honorable Mentions" or something like that though for duplicates from raids that deserve a spot but don't fit the format.

  • @duncmanxxx
    @duncmanxxx3 жыл бұрын

    You should do one about the top 10 hardest first bosses of a raid next, that might be interesting

  • @tjbrody

    @tjbrody

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m certain that the first boss of Eternal Palace would make that list

  • @Impressionwow

    @Impressionwow

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tjbrody what? Sivara was a joke lmao

  • @mercenaryforhire3453

    @mercenaryforhire3453

    3 жыл бұрын

    Antorus first boss had soaks, thus making it the hardest to down in lfr. Also it had an additional soak mechanic in Mythic. Jokes asides I'm sure Razorgore would be in for the same reasons as Vaelastraz.

  • @Amandor2011

    @Amandor2011

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Impressionwow well, it's not like all the first bosses are kind of a joke tbh, can't even remember any remotely hard first boss

  • @danzy7136

    @danzy7136

    3 жыл бұрын

    Malygos would win :)

  • @darrensanderson1031
    @darrensanderson10313 жыл бұрын

    "This boss was SUPER hard and destroyed many guilds!" "Really, what did it require??" "The DPS to move away from everyone else when they became God, so they didn't wipe the raid" "So all it required was a tiny amount of self awareness and a minuscule bit of movement from DPS players?" "Yes" "We're screwed"

  • @Dexieboi2013
    @Dexieboi20133 жыл бұрын

    "You thought number 1 would go to four horsemen...but it was I M'uru!!" ~M'uru

  • @Bruder_Benny
    @Bruder_Benny3 жыл бұрын

    Gorefiend Mythic (Hfc) Flashback kicks in over 250+ attemps for one kill. This was one tough Boss for my old guild during WoD

  • @diegomiguez2235

    @diegomiguez2235

    3 жыл бұрын

    Broke my guild

  • @duck8816
    @duck88163 жыл бұрын

    "Ouro was kinda buggy" haha I see what you did there

  • @mantequillas1278
    @mantequillas12783 жыл бұрын

    M'uru will always be the hardest boss for me. Most time spent on any single boss, hours, weeks, months just lost. Computers, internet and people are just so much better now. Due to these bosses being the MOST difficult boss of its time, we'll be able to walk over M'uru come TBC. I was able to get him down twice before my raiding guild quit, I wasn't able to take down kil'jaden because him! I'm sticking around until then!

  • @charlieawerbuch5352
    @charlieawerbuch53523 жыл бұрын

    M'uru was just the icing on the difficult boss cake that was Sunwell. Such a pain in the ass boss in a raid that already had multiple pain in the ass boss fights (I still hate Brutalus almost 15 years later).

  • @milannovotny7299

    @milannovotny7299

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you downed kael than you were mentaly prepared for sunwell.

  • @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor
    @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor2 жыл бұрын

    I gotta say, I love the way you used the actual golems to explain the Dark Animus fight. It's like a Clefairy Says style thing. I liked it.

  • @sunakovalentine1939
    @sunakovalentine19393 жыл бұрын

    I haven’t played WoW in so long, waiting for the new expansion , but I will forever watch these videos even if I don’t play as much or I end up stopping (if that’ll ever happen). Keep it up, Hirumared!

  • @1un4cy

    @1un4cy

    3 жыл бұрын

    prepatch is out so you can play the new starter zone and level to 50, assuming that the leveling experience will be the same before and after release

  • @sunakovalentine1939

    @sunakovalentine1939

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@1un4cy Oh snap, awesome! Thanks :D Guess I am resubbing

  • @marvs3880
    @marvs38803 жыл бұрын

    I really liked the Star Augur fight, it was fun and i always looked forward to it

  • @legacy_moments
    @legacy_moments3 жыл бұрын

    OG M’uru will always be the hardest fight that was ever actually downed pre-nerf, even after the min maxers trivialize SWP come BC-Classic. He is history.

  • @drathnor8858
    @drathnor88583 жыл бұрын

    Loved the video. Keep up the good work man!

  • @caithesai9178
    @caithesai91783 жыл бұрын

    Nice Video! :D keep getting better and better man! rip Ouro

  • @grasa95
    @grasa953 жыл бұрын

    Love your content man glad to see you back

  • @toe7182
    @toe71823 жыл бұрын

    ah m'uru .. i remember this fight vividly. facing the wall zoomed in to keep my 6 fps stable and spamming chainheal. we killed him on the last id before he was nerfed the 2nd time. good times.

  • @TheOneWhoReportsForDuty
    @TheOneWhoReportsForDuty3 жыл бұрын

    Dark Animus: *exists* The Venthyr: I can milk you.

  • @esperanzadelcarmenhernande8432
    @esperanzadelcarmenhernande84322 жыл бұрын

    Putricide Professor from ICC deserved a spot for sure, or Lady Deathwhisper. Lady in 25h was definitely harder than 25h sindragosa, and the chaos in professor... God

  • @themysticidiot
    @themysticidiot3 жыл бұрын

    I think Gorefiend honestly deserves a spot on this list.

  • @brandenbrousseau7673

    @brandenbrousseau7673

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hellfire Citadel or Black Temple?

  • @voodoowill4685

    @voodoowill4685

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hfc gorefiend was harder

  • @erich1380

    @erich1380

    3 жыл бұрын

    Black temple gorefiend is such aids. If the ghost rng goes a certain way it's just a guaranteed wipe. I'm on a private server and we are at black temple now

  • @erich1380

    @erich1380

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Brian yeah I'm sure

  • @DriftNick

    @DriftNick

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@erich1380 Ghost rng? I hope you mean the rng of it picking the worst players in your raid that fail at the very basic ghost mechanics.

  • @BinhNguyen-rz8en
    @BinhNguyen-rz8en3 жыл бұрын

    Anyone still remember Blood Queen Lanaya & Syndragosa fight ?

  • @ardiessadida5146

    @ardiessadida5146

    3 жыл бұрын

    you mean Blood Queen Lan'athel, she was pretty easy in heroic but yea sindragosa in heroic is really triggering my PTSD

  • @0rcd0c
    @0rcd0c3 жыл бұрын

    One correction: Shaman's Spirit Link did not heal/damage and didn't remove these debuffs instantly (even during HC world first). You still needed to heal the targets with the debuff. However, the main benefit of resto shamans were: 1. You were able to keep the debuffed people alive in high damage phases by AOE Heal + Spirit Link 2. Mana Tide with that many arcane mages synergizes well

  • @dfuher968

    @dfuher968

    2 жыл бұрын

    We had 3 spriests in our raid group (including me). All 3 of us had grip macros on our main tank and on top of all the other moving around, we had to keep as far away from him as possible, when it was our turn in the grip rotation, so when he called, we would insta grip him to the other end of the spine, and he could manage to drop the stacks that way. We didnt have the option of class stacking, and our healers just couldnt manage to heal through it all (we also had only 1 shammy). It was a bit complex, but it worked for us. And ofc, it showed once again, why spriest is such an unfairly maligned, actually awesome class 😈

  • @AwakeningWoW
    @AwakeningWoW3 жыл бұрын

    i rly like the video but this needs a part 2: Imperial Vizier Zor'lok / Heart of Fear - was the first boss and no one killed him untill he was nerfed Odyn or Guarm / Trial of Valor - prenerf The Blast Furnace or Operator Thogar / Blackrock Foundry - prenerf Paragon of the Klaxxi / Sieg of Orgrimmar Professor Putricide / Icecrown The Butcher / Highmaul Gorefiend or Mannoroth / Hellfire Citadell - prenerf Mistress Sassz'ine / Tomb of Sargeras - prenerf Lady Ashvane or Za'qul, Harbinger of Ny'alotha / Eternal Palace

  • @Bynbrooke

    @Bynbrooke

    3 жыл бұрын

    PP was hard for ICC but 25m heroic Sindragossa was harder.

  • @zyella277

    @zyella277

    3 жыл бұрын

    Xhuhorac from HFC defenitly could also be on a list like this

  • @Wickedincarnate
    @Wickedincarnate3 жыл бұрын

    It almost broke my raid leader when we went through ToT to finish off achievments and I told him you could just eat all that damage on Dark Animus with CDs then carry the fight on that vengeance high after SoO was out for a couple weeks. Over 300 sub 30 second (probably lower) attempts it was pure catharsis to me. I don't want it back but I man I miss vengeance sometimes. Just because of all the crazy things we were doing with it.

  • @jimi_jams
    @jimi_jams3 жыл бұрын

    When I saw that web of anima lightning on the Dark Animus wipe, I felt that in my soul.

  • @insecdroid
    @insecdroid3 жыл бұрын

    I quit my discord call to watch this immediately. Worth it.

  • @numnaut1314

    @numnaut1314

    3 жыл бұрын

    Woah, holy shit .

  • @ACCAW11
    @ACCAW113 жыл бұрын

    Viscidus was infinity harder than ouro in aq40. So much poison aoe damage that required a ton of venom sac farming pre raid. Half the raid is required to run engineering for goblin sapper charges on slimes. Clouds of poison random spawning all over the place and you had to freeze and shatter the boss in order to do damage. Ouro just needed mage tanks standing at max range blowing dps cool downs to keep the boss’ attention and for the sand blast they just stepped out of range. Everyone else stands behind the boss and nukes it.

  • @itsyaboiguzma2325
    @itsyaboiguzma23253 жыл бұрын

    I got hard ptsd star augur, like holy shit, it took me and my guild an entire week of trying because we were so bad.

  • @xdude7300
    @xdude73003 жыл бұрын

    also, some things you got wrong about vael, he only casts burning adrenaline on mana users, along with that, after 45 seconds he will cast burning adrenaline on the tank. However everyone gets "essence of the red" which gives 500 mana, 50 energy, and 20 rage per second

  • @TraitorPC
    @TraitorPC3 жыл бұрын

    Without even seeing the video: Valestrasz, Muru, Avatar After seeing: nailed it

  • @Basteal
    @Basteal3 жыл бұрын

    I hated every boss in Sunwell after the first, minus the twins. That'd be my list right there. Original Nax was probably my favorite 'hard mode' dungeon.

  • @torbenmayer
    @torbenmayer3 жыл бұрын

    I feel like Council of Illidari from the Black Temple should be in this list as well. I don’t think it had too much wipes, but I feel like this is one of the bosses that also needed the players to be perfectly good in what they do AND it had a lot of randomness in it. You could play perfectly and still wipe because the wrong healer got stunned at the wrong time. Even overgeared groups with full sunwell gear had problems at this boss. Leatherworking and Enchanting were the go to combo pre Sunwell as well. Some guilds needed you to have your rings enchanted (you could unlearn enchanting after that) and have leatherworking so everyone in the raid hat drums at any given time. I think jewelcrafting was needed in sunwell as well, but you still had to get your rings enchanted. I’m pretty sure I unlearned and learned jewelcrafting and enchanting several times :D what a pain

  • @inujosha
    @inujosha3 жыл бұрын

    I usually like all raid bosses. However, spine of deathwing just sucked and I hated it.

  • @Shyftus

    @Shyftus

    3 жыл бұрын

    Still does for farming blazing drake.

  • @lillbrorsan

    @lillbrorsan

    3 жыл бұрын

    I thought it was OK if anything, did enjoy being able to burst as an Arcane Mage.

  • @inujosha

    @inujosha

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lillbrorsan I was a frost mage, so sadly I didn't burst as much.

  • @lolosh99

    @lolosh99

    3 жыл бұрын

    Did you like Ny’alotha? And which bfa raid boss did you like the most

  • @inujosha

    @inujosha

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lolosh99 Yeah I did like it and I would have to say my favorite bfa boss, believe it or not, was Orgozoa.

  • @Outwardpd
    @Outwardpd3 жыл бұрын

    Star Augur was actually a decently easy boss on release of nighthold, guilds would 2 heal it because he didn't do much burst damage and make the dps check very easy. They actually ended up buffing the boss more than they nerfed him with the changes which made the boss not really 2 healable during prog anymore by making most of his mechanics do an absolute fuckload of damage to the point where classes with bad defensives were guaranteed to die if they got unlucky, the ice phase in particular (luckily the first phase) the dot mechanic he would randomly place on people requiring them to move out of the raid (meaning 1 or 2 healers at most can reach them) did so much damage that if they got it twice in a row and didn't have a fuckload of defensives they would just die. So Star augur actually wiped guilds more on its 'nerf' than before it, it was an awful fight because the only damage blizzard could really buff on the fight made the mechanics nail bitingly annoying for healers buffing some abilities by 50% or so, by the end of that tier we had wiped more on star augur than gul'dan.

  • @Forndrome

    @Forndrome

    3 жыл бұрын

    I progressed quite late on Star Augur, but I also remember 1 mess up on the celestial alignment mechanic meaning a wipe... I believe the damage didn't quite one-shot, but it still dealt a large chunk of one's health to the point where if someone wasn't close to topped off they'd die, and this usually meant 2-4 players would die from having lost some health to various mechanics, meaning we'd most likely fail the DPS check later, and a wipe would be called.

  • @oskarbremer5406

    @oskarbremer5406

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yep, however on mythic, Star Augur was a bitch and a half not really due to the difficulty of the signs, it was the chaotic comms, whenever any icicle dropped, whenever the fel pool (as a mele class this was the worst, since augur didn't move, AND it killed you in a 3 ticks) and the thing from beyond +the eyes. Writing this out gives me shivers, but man was it a fun fight to down. Also fuck ToS, vaelastras is a fucking joke compared to Fallen Avatar

  • @pastelmermaid3894

    @pastelmermaid3894

    3 жыл бұрын

    Did you do that boss before it got nerfed?

  • @roninace213
    @roninace2133 жыл бұрын

    Flying Buttress has great content. Good shoutout bro

  • @Davivd2
    @Davivd23 жыл бұрын

    M'uru will still be hard today. Getting DPS to switch to adds or being at a point where they need to stop doing damage is still a problem in 2020. I theorize that if Blizzard ever made a boss that would just one shot the top DPS every minute of the fight if that DPS was top DPS for 30 seconds it would be an unbeatable boss. Getting players to stop pushing buttons is surprisingly harder than teaching them what buttons to push and what gear they need.

  • @jaeusa160

    @jaeusa160

    3 жыл бұрын

    There should be a boss of nothing but buffs and debuffs where if you dps the wrong thing, you die. If you move when you shouldn't, you die. If you fail to move when you should, you die. If you dispel the wrong thing, you die. If you don't dispel the right thing, you die. Etc. It can be a council fight called "The Accountability Personnel" (personal accountability). There should also be an ogre or hozen who runs over and teabags anyone who fails, named Git'gud.

  • @TehAsdfg

    @TehAsdfg

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jaeusa160 Mythic Guarm.

  • @Spectacular66

    @Spectacular66

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jaeusa160 Cataclysm kinda started off that way... lol

  • @jaeusa160

    @jaeusa160

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TehAsdfg I mean FAR more strict and individual and brutal than Guarm.

  • @DereineBrotmann

    @DereineBrotmann

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@jaeusa160 Packing all of thoes things in one Boss would be major lame. And tbh not realy that hart for a group of coordinated somewhat attentive players. But just for fun some recent examples from Nyalotha for your points: "If you dps the wrong thing, you die" : Skitra, Ra-den. "If you move when you shouldn't, you die" Wrathion Mythic and not recent, but twice ;) Shade of Aran "If you fail to move when you should, you die" Wrathion, Maut, Skitra, Xanesh, Vexiona, Hivemind, Ra-den, Shad'har. Drest'agath, Il'gynoth, Carapace, N'zoth "If you dispel the wrong thing, you die" Il'gynoth Mythic. "If you don't dispel the right thing, you die" Maut Mythic And for someone to run over and teabag you: That's what raidleads are for :D :D

  • @nghtguy13
    @nghtguy133 жыл бұрын

    As a resto druid in cataclysm, I wrecked shop on Spine. We had a disc priest, resto shaman, resto druid.... This fight is still my favorite fight I've ever healed on. You feel so accomplished :D

  • @horrorkesh
    @horrorkesh3 жыл бұрын

    I mean pre Nerf sunwell was a nightmare to run

  • @BKBK-yo1zz

    @BKBK-yo1zz

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Brian let's be honest everyone will just roll it over in classic tbc

  • @Orwasitme
    @Orwasitme Жыл бұрын

    If I remember right, M'uru was so hard that during the PTRs before the Sunwell patch even released, world renowned guilds were disbanding due to wipes on him and they actually gave him the tag under his name as a joke during PTRs. My guild (Which was the #2/3 guild on my server) was only able to defeat him after 3.0 came out (which was the blanket nerf for Wrath that allowed a lot of guilds to even kill Kalecgos, let alone get anywhere near M'uru), and even then 24 / 25 people were dead w/ M'uru at 1% and our friggen MVP offtank managed the last hits.

  • @Deathpony9000
    @Deathpony90003 жыл бұрын

    @hirumaredx As with any fight with a healing sink debuff, Disc priests were super helpful on Spine of Deathwing. In my 10H raids, our disc specifically bubbled the ones with Searing Plasma as priority. It reduced the need of our Resto Shaman to Spirit Link as often. He still did it mind you, but it eased up the requirement significantly. PS> Great list! Completely agree!

  • @thespaghettiwives
    @thespaghettiwives3 жыл бұрын

    My raid group never had an issue with Spine, it was Capt Blackthorn, that was the tough fight.

  • @hirumaredx

    @hirumaredx

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same actually. Once I hopped on my LFR geared shaman alt to heal over my priest so that we would have 2 spirit link totems we downed Spine in no time. But Blackhorn was so buggy that it caused all kinds of wipes. I dont think I've ever wiped to a boss more than blackhorn

  • @davidthompson5710

    @davidthompson5710

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah. Took us just 2 attempts to do spine.

  • @Tibbroar
    @Tibbroar3 жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry but Hodir was not in any way shape or form harder than Firefighter on launch. The version you described was after they had already buffed the fight multiple times to make it more difficult. The world first kill was before those changes. And it was kinda bs that they changed it after someone had done it and made it almost impossible for other guilds following after them.

  • @Riful
    @Riful3 жыл бұрын

    Would be interesting to see you do a top raid bosses vid and include some other mmos.

  • @hassanbakhsh2440
    @hassanbakhsh24403 жыл бұрын

    Top 5 un-killable healer with their respective expan !

  • @microvan1234
    @microvan12343 жыл бұрын

    I remember progressing on dark animus. That fight was ridiculous lol

  • @kennylee3
    @kennylee33 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos. Been watching for years now. Keep it going, you're great at this

  • @kaetharina3868
    @kaetharina38683 жыл бұрын

    I would love to see a "Hardest raidbosses in an expansion" or Hardest bosses each raid".

  • @adriangar95
    @adriangar953 жыл бұрын

    Top 10 Hardest Bosses for Healers and Tanks pls!

  • @vegarduhre
    @vegarduhre7 ай бұрын

    Very accurate list :)

  • @jonathanabgrall6075
    @jonathanabgrall60753 жыл бұрын

    Siegecrafter was a fucking nightmare for me. Back then i was playing in an Oceanic raiding guild because i was working night shifts and that was the only way i could play in a guild that raided at hours that suited me (very early morning for me). Thankfully they hadn't switched the Oceanic data-center to Sydney yet, but i was still playing with 300+ ping from playing on a west coast data-center from the east coast, which was manageable most of the time. The kicker? I was a Hunter an our RL INSISTED that Hunters needed to do EVERY belt. How? If you entered the tube while having the debuff, you get spit back out right? Still happens to us, but if you timed disengage right, you could still land back on the belt while getting spat out by the tube. Which wasn't all that hard to pull off... with normal ping. With 300+ MS. It was something else entirely. Oh btw, if you misstimed Disengage, you just died.

  • @covexvortex

    @covexvortex

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I play a MoP private server, and that's the most common strategy is a hunter doing all of them. You gotta really get that disengage down

  • @jonathanabgrall6075

    @jonathanabgrall6075

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@covexvortex Yeah like i said under normal circumstances it was easy, just flip the camera behind you and press disengage at peak height. Problem was dealing with packet losses caused by simlply being far from the data center which meant sometimes skills going off a quarter or half a second, which sometimes ruined the whole thing.

  • @covexvortex

    @covexvortex

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oof yeah I felt that The server I play is based in Hungaria and I'm in America, so I was always at 100+ MS Wasn't a huge deal as there was never too much delay, esp as a warrior main

  • @DriftNick

    @DriftNick

    3 жыл бұрын

    How awful was your internet that you got 300ms to a west coast server from the each coast? got better then that from Australia to the US east coast servers.

  • @jonathanabgrall6075

    @jonathanabgrall6075

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DriftNick Well for one, that was 7 years ago. And yeah college dorm internet isn't known to be great.

  • @SL4PSYM4XY
    @SL4PSYM4XY3 жыл бұрын

    wooooot! Whenever you come out with one of these vids, it's a great day. Thank you Hiru!!!!

  • @AzIgaziMakk
    @AzIgaziMakk3 жыл бұрын

    M'uru wont be trivilised. HC guilds will kill it quickly cuz they can practive on private as much they want. But other than that it's a really difficult fight, the adds are no joke at all. Well if we get the 2.4.3 fully nerfed raid content then it will be true cuz it was like 30% HP nerf which is drastic.

  • @KiyokaMakibi
    @KiyokaMakibi3 жыл бұрын

    I guess I was lucky to be in a competent guild back in the original classic as from what I recall we didn’t have much trouble on Vaelastrasz. Although I suppose it wasn’t a smooth ride! To this day I still remember the positioning of the group in that fight and our tactics. Two groups, one on each side. Once you got the buff you’d run in the centre, behind the boss, and DPS till you died.

  • @burningisis
    @burningisis3 жыл бұрын

    Twin Emps (or Cthun trash) splintered SO many guilds. So many did not know back then how to warlock tank

  • @jpfischer6003
    @jpfischer600311 ай бұрын

    For my group in particular, we spent two weeks wiping to Sindragosa, but downed LK on our second attempt. I count her for my personal list.

  • @WormyMaster
    @WormyMaster3 жыл бұрын

    Lemme guess some items on the list: Vaelastrasz Four Horsemen or Saphiron Avatar of Sargeras Spine of Deathwing (Duh) Aggramar Blackfuse Gunther Arcanus

  • @Sidiciousify

    @Sidiciousify

    3 жыл бұрын

    Vaelastrasz is super easy

  • @Jac4ester

    @Jac4ester

    3 жыл бұрын

    You must not remember the Age of the Guildbreaker

  • @44-mhamdihamza23

    @44-mhamdihamza23

    3 жыл бұрын

    liliann voss

  • @Jac4ester

    @Jac4ester

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you asked Hiru Lillian Voss and Gunther Arcanus could 1v1 all these bosses and come out untouched😂😂

  • @SirNoddy1

    @SirNoddy1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Sidiciousify in classic it is. Vanilla was a different game 😅

  • @user-zm2br8mr4z
    @user-zm2br8mr4z3 жыл бұрын

    Nice video can you make a top 10 must hated bosses ever ?

  • @DankMemes-xq2xm
    @DankMemes-xq2xm3 жыл бұрын

    Surprised the Butcher from Highmaul isn't on the list. It didn't take many attempts to down him, but the DPS check was so high that Paragon was only able to kill him after having downed Imperator and getting as much BiS gear as possible.

  • @Immersed94

    @Immersed94

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not exactly true. He was just, like most bosses in there, optional. And since imperator was mainly a mechanics fight, not a numbers fight, they desided to do imperator first. Butcher was hard for sure tho. I'd say he deserves an honorable mention, same as blast furnace and gorefiend. People hate on WoD, but the raids were fucking great!

  • @CrystalblueMage
    @CrystalblueMage3 жыл бұрын

    As I recall Vael cast it specifically on the tanks in order in addition to on the dps. And there was no taunting him, so the tanks had to stagger their threat and stand in a line to take over, since and breath anywhere than on the main tank would be a wipe. So a big dps crit from a +100 person or wrong threat order on tanks was gg.

  • @aura6400
    @aura64003 жыл бұрын

    Hey hirumaredx, what were your thoughts on Lady Ashvane in Eternal Palace? My guild died progressing through her and stands in my memory as one of the hardest "walls" to exist in the first half of the bosses in a raid

  • @Warcraftnerd2
    @Warcraftnerd23 жыл бұрын

    Around half way through BFA, me and my friends (all level 120) decided to do the tomb of sagaras. Fallen avatar was so hard. To be fair, we WERE doing it on mythic difficultly, but it was still too hard. And for the final boss, we just couldn’t do it. No matter how many more skilled people we invited we still couldn’t do it. Now that everyone is weak af I don’t think I’m gonna be able to do it for a while.

  • @Lagavulan
    @Lagavulan3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video

  • @Kailith-Noxia
    @Kailith-NoxiaАй бұрын

    I think it's funny how number seven wound up getting just as much problems in remix when it happened. Once again, the mathematics win the day. There was also an issue depending on the tank you had, as some would just heal themselves a little bit too quickly and would accidentally rip the agro, which for once, was bad for a tank. Seeing this video and remembering my heroic attempt of ToT in remix got me to laugh at how little changes

  • @humoudalajlan368
    @humoudalajlan3683 жыл бұрын

    Muru was hell ! Was so hard, 15 years of wow never seen a boss as hard as him

  • @randomphil8666
    @randomphil86663 жыл бұрын

    I don’t remember Vaelestraz being that much of a problem. I raided in vanilla WoW and we had this guy on weekly farm pretty quickly. There are definitely harder bosses in Blackwing Lair then Vael. (Not including Nefarian).

  • @Absynnian
    @Absynnian2 жыл бұрын

    Looking forward to the updated version that includes M Painsmith and M SLG.

  • @44-mhamdihamza23
    @44-mhamdihamza233 жыл бұрын

    "Spine of Deathwing" Basically every Hiru video

  • @Marqrk

    @Marqrk

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nah, it would be a Hiru video if he somehow fit Lillian Voss into it

  • @galgrim8672

    @galgrim8672

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Marqrk Or Gunther Arcanus

  • @trintved
    @trintved3 жыл бұрын

    No 4 horsemen classic naxx????

  • @dalampslayer
    @dalampslayer3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the Yugioh and WoW fix for the day Hiru!

  • @Adamdaman3333
    @Adamdaman33333 жыл бұрын

    Blast Furnace from BRF was pretty damn hard too, even compared to Blackhand

  • @julso.9763
    @julso.97632 жыл бұрын

    What's the music playing while you talk about blackfuse? sounds so familiar.

  • @leighprout
    @leighprout3 жыл бұрын

    fallen avatar was probs one of my fav wow bosses surprisingly

  • @michaelc1541
    @michaelc15413 жыл бұрын

    Great list. Sad I didn’t see ToS M Maiden (simply because one person could wipe the group instantly) and HFC M Gorefiend on the list.

  • @TehAsdfg
    @TehAsdfg3 жыл бұрын

    I was expecting to see Mythic Aggramar. That fight with the gimmick "bring as many DK as you can" was a headache in their day. The same as Mythic Mannoroth.

  • @kennethperry1801
    @kennethperry18013 жыл бұрын

    I KNEW that the Avatar would be on here, still can’t solo it with my BFA main but can with the other bosses

  • @theodorefolkesson8055
    @theodorefolkesson80553 жыл бұрын

    Great video! BTW... dose anyone know what addon that cooldown timer in the middle of the screen is at 15:59 is I have been searching a while for it but I have not found it any where. Is it a weak aura?

  • @DereineBrotmann

    @DereineBrotmann

    3 жыл бұрын

    Use SexyCooldown if you want something like that today. Idk what it was back in the day, since I never used such a thing, but some mates of mine often mention SexyCooldown

  • @theodorefolkesson8055

    @theodorefolkesson8055

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DereineBrotmann Thx I will look into that :D

  • @Firaveas
    @Firaveas3 жыл бұрын

    Ahh blackfuse and muru. I loved those bosses.

  • @jameshyde4670
    @jameshyde46702 жыл бұрын

    Does anyone know the background music used during the Vaelastrasz the Corrupt segment?

  • @DerIcePringle
    @DerIcePringle3 жыл бұрын

    what's the track playing during the Hodir part called?

  • @Karmolicious
    @Karmolicious3 жыл бұрын

    Find the ending comment on the spine of deathwing to be a bit funny. Dragon Soul was the last tier in Cataclysm, plus I remember there being "drama" about Paragon stacking ferals on Nefarian. Ferals have been getting the boot ever since lol

  • @dviking4482
    @dviking44822 ай бұрын

    I failed a bunch of times on Spine of Deathwing when I was getting the legendary dagger during Legion. So I was by myself, but it was still difficult.

  • @agallion1832
    @agallion18323 жыл бұрын

    Vanilla princess huhuran, the nature resist was ridiculous. I remember hunting down lvl 30 gear or lower just for a few NR...Saph for frost resist was easier but still very rough....4HM requiring 8 geared tanks

  • @nickelback3360
    @nickelback33608 ай бұрын

    what music is playing during the Blackfuse section?

  • @cobaltnetherwingdrake7048
    @cobaltnetherwingdrake70483 жыл бұрын

    I like the spine of deathwing fight, and i loved the difficulitys on heroic dungeons on cata aswell. Felt like an challenge, everything is almost no mechanics...

  • @xGodric
    @xGodric3 жыл бұрын

    Anyone know the name of the song used at 14:51?

  • @TuberoseKisser
    @TuberoseKisser2 жыл бұрын

    The fact that I had to do spine because of the rogue questline and awake the drakes achievement(still don't have the blazing drake) was enough to make me genuinely loathe Dragon Soul.

  • @Toast-cc7gr
    @Toast-cc7gr Жыл бұрын

    Having done muru in classic now, ya its still a hard fight, yes speed running guilds didn't have a hard time, but for the other 99% of the player base it was a significant challenge, ik for my guild it took about 70 attempts to get our first kill. I remember reading somewhere that that the average progression kill attempts for muru was 80, which for a boss that's over a decade old and the amount of class stacking and min/max culture that exists now a days is saying something.

  • @cedricweber58
    @cedricweber583 жыл бұрын

    i'd like to see a video about the top 10 hardest first bosses in a raid

  • @smoke_09
    @smoke_093 жыл бұрын

    i was in the guild uprising which were one of the 5 guilds that killed m”uru pre nerf

  • @eddiegreencheez
    @eddiegreencheez3 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to see a Top 10 Raids or Raids Boss fights that were completed with the least amount of people

  • @jujuyarn
    @jujuyarn2 жыл бұрын

    I progged mythic SoO and quit after 2 weeks of mythic blackfuse, I came back 8 months later to see the guild hadn't downed it yet

  • @kiritobi
    @kiritobi3 жыл бұрын

    Man I totally forgot about animus it was a hard one but very fun tbh

  • @konig4626
    @konig46263 жыл бұрын

    I remember picking my own target as a dd at the robot xD but we did not even need 10 runs

  • @toohighstrung
    @toohighstrung3 жыл бұрын

    We killed fetid alot, didn't realize it was considered hard on mythic, this was after the first egg nerf though

  • @joshshepherd5734
    @joshshepherd57343 жыл бұрын

    To 10 difficult dungeon bosses would be a good one

  • @slipknotpurity00
    @slipknotpurity002 жыл бұрын

    Time to add about 4 bosses from Sepulcher of the First Ones to this list :P Halondrus, Anduin, Lords of Dread, Rygaleon.

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