*Been waiting😉 to get one for awhile **MyBest.Tools** Love it and easy to use. Braced pieces and ran thru on edges. Solid😄😄product. Still using my hand💯 planer.*

Sorry for the crappy audio. I found my lav mic the day after I recorded this so the next one will sound better.

@utkanf

8 жыл бұрын

+Jay Bates 2 I will unsubscribe right now! I had to turn off the voice and read your lips.

@JayBates

8 жыл бұрын

+The Good Husband The Horror! The echo was bad in this video.

@utkanf

8 жыл бұрын

+Jay Bates Joking aside I would not worry about the control panel, even if you punched the buttons every time you used the panel it will still hold.

@benspens

8 жыл бұрын

+Jay Bates 2 I really like the emails you've been putting out with the embedded video link....Very professional, very clean. My only issue is that I can "like" you videos unless I click on the KZread link to open it on KZread and then like. Can you embed the like button to your website?

@JayBates

8 жыл бұрын

+benspens That's just the way KZread works. No thumbs up or down are offered on videos embedded into other websites. I appreciate thinking of the thumbs up but really watching on my website helps me more than anything. I appreciate that :)

I realize this video was over 5 years ago but thank you for the honest review. I had just purchase the Grizzly 8” jointer with the fixed bed a couple months ago but hadn’t taken out of the crate yet due to pneumonia hitting me bad. I feel encouraged in its future use from your review of your Grizzly jointer. I too have tired of buying upgrades and now buy the one that I really want.

Jay, I hav this jpinter for over 5 years and I have never had an issue. I love this jointer

An honest "tool talk" , and that's why I subscribed to your channel Jay, You always tell it as it is. That's a refreshing change in this commercially minded world, thank you I'm waiting for the next one, have a great week ...

I'm getting ready to buy this jointer. I've had many Grizzly Machines over the years, and have never had a problem. You just cant beat the price, for the size of machine you get.

Just got a rigid 6in jointer as a Christmas gift. Its really nice, works well for smaller projects.

I really like this approach to a tool review, much more honest and not so corporate. I am a bit surprised by the mounting for the operation switches. Great review Jay.

Was just generously gifted a grizzly 0691 table saw, mortise cutter and hanging air filter. The quality really makes me want more from the company. I'm due time, in due time.

One thought on the position of your fence - what we used to do at college was to leave the fence as far back as possible and use that portion of the blades solely for edge jointing. With practice, you don't actually need to use the fence for planing a face and can therefore spread the wear across the rest of the blades. I've also found that moving a fence can make it slightly out of square on some machines. ;-)

Like all your videos but especially like your down-to-earth tool reviews. Keep them coming please.

Thanks Jay !!! I have a 6 inch Craftsmen and when I go to replace it down the road I will keep what you said in mind

I suppose one of the huge advantages of the spiral cutter head is that you don't need to spread the ware in the same way as I have to on my Axminster Tools 250mm planner / Thicknesses or you'd call it a jointer / Thicknesses planner combo as it has traditional 3 blade set up. got it last year and they have now bought out a spiral head cutter, gutted bout that. Anyhow keep up the great work, love your work!

We have all purchased tools at a lower price point. I know you are value based on your decisions but would like even more. For example, I needed an impact driver and my favorite cordless is 20v Dewalt. The impact driver was $120 with no batteries. However, Home Depot had the 18v drill, impact and 2 batteries for $99. For the amount of use it made sense, to me, to go with the Ryobi. Great video!

Nice job Jay. This type of review is very helpful. A quick review get's your point across and if someone is seriously interested in purchasing the tool, there are many "in depth" reviews on The Tube. Keep'em coming

Hey Jay, thanks for the tool feedback. I'm considering buying the Grizzly G0690 table saw and watched one of your videos the other day where you talked about it verses the SawStop. It was exactly what I needed to know. The SawStop is my ultimate wish list saw, but not my favorite price. I should be purchasing a G0690 in the very near future.

Great tool talk Jay! I have the same jointer (2 years now), and it's been a great machine. Like you, I tend not to move the fence because of what you mentioned. I have put 100,s of bd ft through it, and the blades are still as sharp as when I got it. Maybe in a few years I might have to spin them.

@JayBates2

8 жыл бұрын

+GuysWoodshop that's great to hear about the blades. I gummed mine up really bad with a long run of yellow pine but a couple q-tips and mineral spirits cleaned them up real quick. Cut like new after that.

@patsullivan9399

8 жыл бұрын

+Jay Bates 2 In a production environment having to re-square the fence every time would be completely unacceptable. Considering the difference in the cost of the machine, though, it's a very small price to pay in a hobby shop. Wax any bare metal surfaces with paste wax, it will make your wood slide easier, prevent gumming up, and prevent rust too.

... upgrades to a Hammer. We all do this Jay. Part of the fun-keeps things exciting.

Thanks, dude. I was wondering about that jointer myself. I think your tool talk videos will be very helpful to many. Since you are not the "fanboy" type, they will have credibility as well. Looking forward to more!

Definitely going to get the 8 inch jointer. Couldn't see myself going all Matt Cremona and getting the 12 inch. Even though the 12 inch is very nice. I will definitely be using and need the mobile base. Thanks for the info. Have a good one.

Everything that he said is spot on, I've had mine for 3years, love it

Jay thanks you for taking the time to do the tool review.

Jay, like the new tool review vids. The video you mention from Marc Spagnuolo on the wood whisperer channel is the best one I have seen on how to set up your jointer, I found it very helpful! thanks

Jay, The only thing that i would include on future Tool Talks is how the tool does at dust collection. That is a big deal to people i know have a bunch of tools in their garage.

@JayBates

8 жыл бұрын

+Jared S Dust collection is good

@shroboy07

8 жыл бұрын

Jay Bates Thanks Jay. I assumed it was because you would state if it was bad. I think most jointers have good dust collection.

glad we had that talk. and ur right ..i have a 6inch and I can totally see myself up grading to an 8inch. if i have the room .right now i do t so 6 it is..and benchtop .lol thanks for sharing all that .

@copedog101

5 жыл бұрын

If for no other reason, get the 490x for bed length

Good info, I like the format. Jointer is probably my next big purchase.

Thanks for this video - I know it's older and you've long moved on from this jointer, but I'm looking at it and it's great info.

Great job Jay! Thanks for the tool video. Too many reviews out there are ok, but become just way too much talk. Your first tool video is just right, and for my shop timely.

Great review Jay. You, thankfully, made me realize that I have re-purchased some low-end tools for the mid-range models. Good buying advice! I'll follow your tip from now on! Thank you!

Thanks for your video. I'm getting the 490xw soon. It's my first jointer too.

I used to have the 6" non spiral version of that jointer. The fence issue was the same with mine so I never moved it. It was hard to get the fence squared up on mine in general as it was very finicky. I've upgraded since and would probably not buy the jointer again but mostly because of the size I had. Good talk though, I look forward to more videos like this. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the cyclone.

I like the idea of this series of videos. Please keep em coming.

glad to hear you like the grizzly machine. I'm considering getting a grizzly tablesaw to replace the Delta contractors saw I own. It is nice to know they make decent stuff. BTW if you want a hardwood source check out Pickens Lumber in Clinton Ms.. I work in Jackson, so it is convenient . Also they have good prices on hinges and drawer slides

@copedog101

5 жыл бұрын

Grizzly rocks!

Thank you for the information, I am looking at the Grizzly jointers and was having that same debate with myself: 6" or 8". Much appreciated.

Yup, I learned to not play "tool work up" also. Good idea on these. Thanks

cool. i am glad to hear good things about Grizzly. i hope to get their hybrid table saw and hope to like it. and their jointer too

@JayBates

8 жыл бұрын

+Charles Holland I had a slightly different experience with the hybrid saw: jayscustomcreations.com/2014/03/grizzly-g0715p-hybrid-table-saw/

Like the tool talk. Looking forward to more videos on them.

Thanks for the review, just about nailed it for me. No nonsense and to the point.

I've operated the same jointer for several years now. Don't have the issue you and others have with the fence coming out of plumb when moving it. I've had problems with the sheave on the motor moving out on the shaft; the vibration at low rpm alerts you; red thread lock seems to extend "MTBF". Thought about drilling a hole in the end of the shaft to mount a keeper. As you know, it's impossible to lay a straight bar across the two sheaves w/o dismantling the damn thing, so I can only suspect the drive-to-head alignment is off a degree or two. I needed to devise a way to block the motor carriage to properly tension the belt. I also note the significant positive effect the DC has on operation. Note to Stew ... I assembled it myself ... if you don't have an engine lift or a 'gantry', you'll need to crib the thing fore-and-aft a few times before you can slip the base under it. I wish Grizzly [who is not my favorite supplier] could incorporate a damper on the foot release ... I have to hold onto the infeed table so it won't slam down. Would I buy it again? Hmmmmm.

@jimbol8695

8 жыл бұрын

+Benny Hannah Wow! Now that's an honest review. Thanks

Well done Mr Bates.

it really wasn't that bathd on audio. I know how much you hate doing tool reviews, but the way you do them helps alot.

Good review. I ended up getting the 6" one with the spiral cutterhead. I'm pleased with it overall, but I agree with you, those long infeed/outfeed tables would be very convenient. Mine is only 46" wide total, I believe. And I think that one is like 72" or something.

@copedog101

5 жыл бұрын

The 8 inch is 76 inches,huge difference on long stock

Nice tool talk Jay looking forward to more reviews....

Thanks Jay. Since Grizzly is running this on sale AND free shipping I have one coming. This was a hard choice as I also got the G0454Z Planner instead of the 12" Jointer/Planer combo unit. Your review and the fact that since I have two units instead of 1 made up my mind. Less re-setting up from moving beds around on the single unit. A few more $$ for 2, but I think in the long run a better choice. Now, how do I move that boxed 1/2 ton Planer into the shop, oh my aching back.

@MNhockeydude35

7 жыл бұрын

I ordered mine back in March and it is still on backorder... I have a lot of projects that are being held up because of it... I sold my 6" sears model in April because that is when they initially told me it would ship, still waiting... They said July 12th they should be shipping them out...

I'm definitely through with buying tools and replacing them. I'm on the fence with this one vs. the 12 inch jointer.

@JayBates

8 жыл бұрын

+Lane Bros WoodShop If it's within budget get the 12.........but where are you going to put it!??

@MattLaneWoodshop

8 жыл бұрын

Jay Bates I've got a plan for that :)

Thanks for the video Jay! I've been looking at this same unit myself. Looking forward to the next Tool Talk!

This was excellent. I can't wait for more of these!

Nice review, Jay. I'm looking forward to more in the future.

Great video =) Perfect amount of info for average joes, and nice solution with the link in the description box for those who are interested =) Thanks for sharing =)

love this new video series that you are doing

Jay, If you decide your next video on public opinion, I would vote for your grizzly band saw, I am very interested in your thoughts and experience after purchase, I recently went for a Porter Cable 14", however, I'm not quite convinced simply due to the missing fence, and the cost to add an aftermarket one, thank you for sharing your experiences, could not agree more with not buying "upgradeable" versions of tools.

Unless I come up on a super good deal for a less ideal tool, I always save for the best that I need. Like, I would love to get a saw stop, but I can't justify the price tag when I can buy a powermatic in the same size range used from a reseller in my area for 1/3 the cost. Just waiting on them to get in an 8 or 10 inch PM or grizzly jointer I can buy for around $800.

Nice tool review! Audio sounded fine. Cheers!

Jay, great format and very informative.

It's an invicta delta dj series copy basically

I like the format of this and I watched and enjoyed it anyway, at this moment I couldn’t afford a jointer and I don’t have room for one, so would it be possible for you to show how to joint a piece of timber using other means along with the evaluation of your joiner / table saw etc?

Nice review style. Relaxed and informative keep them up. As far as 'crap in my shop' I've never watched anything produced in your shop that matches that description ;-)

great idea on the tool topics! Love to know if you ever have any issues with your planer. I have the same one and it seems to burn my hardwoods. Keep the vids coming Jay. Love it!

@franciscocampos4249

4 жыл бұрын

solo pon unpoco de was y estodo

Thank you Jay!

Thanks Jay, Nice video and very informative.

Hey Jay, I'm about to receive this jointer and Ive seen some setup videos on it here on youtube. I'm curious to know how you managed to lift and place the jointer on the stand? My understanding is its several hundred pounds. Ive seen guys use motor lifts and even tractors to lift it and place it on the stand, neither of which I currently have. Thanks in advance for your help.

@JayBates2

7 жыл бұрын

I had it placed in the back of my truck. From there I wiggled the top to rest on sawhorses. Then I can pick up one side at a time and add a block to elevate the top on the sawhorses, slide the base in from below, then remove each block one at a time back and forth to place the top on the stand.

That's strange that the start/stop flexes that much. Did you ever find out if that's typical or was there something going on with the weld?

Is that a Millennium Falcon hiding behind you in the background? Nice! Also nice jointer!

@JayBates2

8 жыл бұрын

+phobos2k2 That it is :)

Hey Jay, thanks for the review. I actually just purchased the same jointer and am currently working through setting up the infeed/outfeed tables. I plan to do a video on my channel as well once it's setup and I've had a chance to use it. I've noted similar complaints, but overall glad you would purchase it again as that makes me feel better about my purchase. I also could not justify the more expensive brands as this one seemed to fit the bill and with the spiral head and massive infeed support it should last me forever. I would be interested to know and see how much flutter you've seen in the drive belt. I thought mine had quite a bit, but Matt Cremona looked at his and noted a little more on his so I'm not sure if it's cause for concern. Thanks for the review.

Hey Jay, also wanted to thank you for starting these tool review vids... I dig your choice in tools, and Ive been curious to know your opinion on is your Grizzly bandsaw and Ridgid Sliding Miter Saw... will look out for your future vids and if you might cover either of those, that would be great!

Thanks for the video. So it's been awhile. Do you still have/use it? Did the flex in the arm get worse?

You shouldn't have to resquare any fence after moving it, whether it's a jointer, table saw, or router table. That sounds like a design flaw.

Nice review, helpful video

So today it's almost 5 years later. Still feel good about this jointer? I have zero experience with jointers, and looking to buy one.

@Meyerwoodworks

4 жыл бұрын

He has a 16" Hammer A3-41 now LOL

@JayBates2

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. It's a fantastic value.

perfect tool review.

Hey Jay now that you've had the 8 inch jointer for a while do you wish you wouldve went bigger....10 or 12? Just curious...contemplating getting the same one you have. Great price point for a heli parallel imo

Thanks for the quick rundown. Question for you.. Did your brother ever finish his tiny house/trailer?

@JayBates2

8 жыл бұрын

+Scott Kaye Still working on it. Got distracted by life during the summer but he's back at it. Follow him on Instagram for frequent updates. instagram.com/joe.wood.1694/

Good info. Thanks

ironic u did a video on the jointer i was just looking at the go813 and thought maybe i should save up more and just get the eight inch cuz I've bought 2 bench top models and i totally agree time to move foward and onto bigger,better, more reliable and lasting tools. And some O that became unsubscribe to this channel when I have been subscribed to this channel for a few yrs,so i just re subscribed lol later bro

@copedog101

5 жыл бұрын

Buy the go 490x

Everyone thats has got a 6 inch wishes they have got a 8 inch I stand by the comment, im not a woodworker :P

@seanmorgan8128

6 жыл бұрын

Everyone who gets a 8 wishes they got a 12

@joatmon8954

5 жыл бұрын

And most people will tell you a 6” will do, specially the ladies, until you show them what a good 9” will do and then they’re sold...

Hey I cant afford a jointer ......I do small projects ...can I use a planner to do the jointing?

thats definitely a nice solid jointer man! I bet that beast was HEAVY... were you able to assemble it by yourself or did you need a buddy or two? I just picked up a Ridgid 6' jointer off of craigslist and was surprised by how heavy the thing was when me & the guy i bought it from were struggling to lift it into the back of my truck... But its got to be just a paperweight compared to your amount of cast iron in your planer....

@JayBates2

8 жыл бұрын

+Stew Pidass I unloaded and assembled it myself. I used my sawhorses and spacer blocks to lift each side up little by little until the base could be slid underneath and then lowered it little by little. Be careful.

@davomontgomeryda3rd

8 жыл бұрын

+Jay Bates 2 thats impressive man...you wouldnt want to see me trying to pull that off, I'd probably end up with a cracked outfeed table and crushed toe ;)

@uncommoncreator1161

7 жыл бұрын

Jay Bates 2 m

I just got the grizzly go what do I think about the modle?

Would you purchase this again in 2019?

@1stfu

4 жыл бұрын

Tom Gionet haha!!! Yes I have the same question.

I don’t know the exact length of the feed table in a wood shop and not a tape measure in sight.. wtf?

Your weld joint is actually stronger than the metal itself, kinda like the glue is stronger than the wood. If you could get to the back of the brace you could epoxy some 3/16 flat stock that would take most of the "flex" out.

Great review, did you use one with the standard blade cutters before this one? I'm curious of the difference in cut and life of the cutters.

@JayBates2

8 жыл бұрын

This is the first jointer I've used....ever.

@KellyBrownwrsd

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks for getting back to me. I'll just bite the bullet some day and go for this type the first time.

Very informative video and great timing since I'll be in the market for a jointer soon. Will this be a gateway to doing sponsored or promoted Tool Talks? I know you say that you don't do typical tool reviews but was just curious.

@JayBates2

8 жыл бұрын

+Michael Gomez I have no clue what the future has in store for this series in regards to other companies. But I have a couple tools of mine scheduled in future videos that were sent to me. I will always make it clear if I paid for a tool or not and will refuse to talk about any tool in a way that doesn't reflect my honest opinion.

@motzemog

8 жыл бұрын

I would expect nothing less from both of your channels. You've always been one of my favorites since day 1. Wish you the best of luck which ever way the future takes Tool Talk.

Gonna miss you doing videos with dimensional lumber that you can buy at home depot no way I'm gonna buy a jointer

@A6Legit

3 жыл бұрын

Thats what seperates the men from the boys.

HI Jay ! Whats your long term review? Would you buy it again? I know you have a different combo machine now.

@JayBates2

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah this is still a great machine. My friend has it now. Still great value.

Yeah, I don't get the upgrade, or "try it out thing". My philosophy is to buy the best you can afford. Trust me, you're going to want a 12". Nice 8" though.

@GordonGEICO

4 жыл бұрын

I definitely agree with you in getting good stuff (I'm about to buy an $8500 CNC which sucks because I already have a $3000 CNC). Having said that, a 12" jointer is no joke. You have to be really serious about woodworking to get a 12" jointer. I would love to get one but personally don't have the space.

4 жыл бұрын

@@GordonGEICO Hold out till you get a decent price for your first CNC. If you lived in my state I'd take a serious look at it. Good luck.

I bought the 12 inch go big or go home 🏠

nice video @JayBates86 iam sure that hat was helpful 😉

Jay did you change the cutter head

@JayBates2

6 жыл бұрын

no

And I have an 8" and wish I had a 12"...

Nice review/non-review Jay. I hate reviews that spend most of the time regurgitating machine specs that can be easily found online. Love your no-nonsense approach. I bought the same machine roughly 5 months ago and I've had several issues - some have been resolved and others are on-going. I can get into details if others want but right now I have a question for you, Jay. How "smooth" does your jointer run? Mine just doesn't seem to be right. No matter how much I adjust the belt (tight, loose, or anywhere in the middle), or make sure the pulleys are aligned and square, this machine has (IMO), too much vibration. The original belt was fairly tweaked when I got it so I had it replaced. No help. The motor pulley set screws were loose as was the cutter head pulley bolt. Tightened those and still no help. Running the motor only without the belt installed indicates a vibration-free motor. Guess it could be the cutter head assembly. To their credit, Grizzly has been great at resolving issues but I'm about to ask for another machine. Not sure how that will go over after 5 months but I've spent more time problem solving than squaring up stock. Thanks for all you do ...

@dblehar

8 жыл бұрын

+woodshock Does it affect performance of the machine or just the noise it generates when its vibrating?

@woodshock8832

8 жыл бұрын

+David Blehar Well, no I don't think it affects the performance so much (I can get my lumber square and all), but there's just too much vibration for my liking. Not sure how that will affect things long term but it can't be good. Someone mentioned Matt Cremona commenting about his Grizzly jointer has "belt flutter". Mine definitely can be described the same way which may contribute to the vibration but I've already had the belt replaced once. Like you Jay, this was my very first jointer purchase. I don't have a point of reference which is why I was asking you about vibration. The closest comparison I have is my Rigid 4512 table saw and it runs perfectly smooth. Even the Rigid bandsaw that I paid $75 for on Craigslist runs vibration free after performing a few mods. I contacted Grizzly and after all the issues I've had they offered to repair or replace the jointer (the tech emphasized they will try to repair first). Great, but that means I have to crate it up for shipping which would be a pain. Still have the box the base came in but I'd have to build a crate for the bed and other parts. Or, he said I could just leave it assembled and ship in one container. Not sure which way to go. I don't have much (any) experience building crates for large machinery - anyone have suggestions? Please know I'm not bashing Grizzly - I really want to love this machine. The other issues I can live with but not sure about this vibration. If that's just the nature of the beast, I guess I can learn to live with that as well - otherwise, back it goes. I'd just hate to go to the trouble of sending it back and get the same result in return. What would you guys do? Jay?

@dblehar

8 жыл бұрын

+woodshock I failed to mention I have the same machine, just got it a few weeks ago actually. I have recently had to replace a 12 inch combination machine with 2 separate machines (long story). In comparison to that machine in jointer mode, this is a bit louder, has a bit of a "jump" when it first fires up that the Jet didn't have. I don't recall the jet having any notable vibration, but didn't think much of it. The grizzly vibrates a bit (certainly more than my table saw) but I'll say this: the cut quality out of grizzly's spiral head runs circles around the spiral head on the Jet combo machine. I wonder if the vibration you have really is out of the ordinary. I'd be curious to see/hear what yours is like compared to mine. I'll take some video of it if you're interested. Maybe try out the old nickel test. Just thinking that you'll be in a world of disappointment if you go through all the trouble packing up the old machine and getting a new one only to find its exactly the same. If its got a bit of vibration but it gives the same quality results I'm experiencing, I'd forget about it.

@woodshock8832

8 жыл бұрын

+David Blehar Thanks for the reply. Yes, I'd definitely be interested in seeing a a video of your machine. I can do the same. Maybe also get some footage of the running belt. This will at least give us some frame of reference. I'm perfectly happy with the cut quality but the ("normal" or excessive) vibration combined with the other issues I've had leave me with a bit of buyers remorse. I've had the belt replaced, the fence replaced TWICE (original had a significant twist - 1st replacement was beat to hell due to poor packaging - third was a keeper). The threaded, wedge shaped clamp that pulls against the locking collar to lock the fence in place was split preventing the fence from staying in place. (also looked like someone took a grinder to it) However, even with a new threaded clamp, the fence will fall out of 90º due to the weight of the fence. (really a poor design, IMO). I've fixed that with a makeshift workaround but not sure how long it will last. The final issue is the long-handled, out feed adjustment lever won't fully tighten up and has a moderate amount of play in it. The nut seems to be stripped or something and it's inaccessible without removing the bed from the base. Really not a big deal since the out feed table height is rarely adjusted but still... On the plus side, Grizzly does seem to care about the customer.

Nice jointer👍 looks like they copied the delta dj20 .. looks exactly like it

@copedog101

5 жыл бұрын

It's the same as a powermatic,

Hey Jay, I see Grizzly has some combo jointer/planers I'm considering (to just use the jointer functionality), since it gets you a wider jointer bed for less money - they have a combo 10" for $1225. www.grizzly.com/products/10-Jointer-Planer-Combo/G0675 Once you get into the 12" you're talking $2500 to $2800 and may as well get a dedicated jointer. What do you think about the 10" combo unit above? Either that or I may just get a dedicated 8" model like you did... Just subscribed...

After all that yapping we never see it go to work.

Good stuff, I have been looking at the same jointer, although it'll be a while before I can afford it. Have you considered riviting/bolting on a cheap corner brace to stiffen up that switch box? Somethibg like this: www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/300/0c/0ce54001-d56f-4a5c-b46d-447fffe4ef41_300.jpg

1:32, that's what she said.