Such a strange bunch of contradicting statements in his video, do you agree?

@924rob

6 жыл бұрын

I think it was some kind of clickbait. He must have enough experience to know he was not making sense. It hurt his credibility if you ask me.

@timfuchs1927

6 жыл бұрын

I saw the video the other day and was confused by some statements. I can nail exposure most of the time, I still shoot RAW. I laughed when I saw this pop up in my notifications.....Nice one Fro!

@georgedamis2495

6 жыл бұрын

Jared Pol

@paulbest1408

6 жыл бұрын

Tony is a fool , his wife gonna comment she’s wears the pants and puts Tony’s grey balls In her Purse Tony I think didn’t think first and just made a video

@blueone117

6 жыл бұрын

When he said, "shoot raw for things that are important" I lost it. Almost flipped my table over. If you are a photographer, what photo isn't important?!

Because “I shoot jpeg” on a t-shirt would look stupid...

@musishoon7950

4 жыл бұрын

I have a distant memory of him on a video tackling a mannequin with that shirt on

@ioncladstudio2688

4 жыл бұрын

"I

@sahilmeena8018

3 жыл бұрын

@@musishoon7950 lmao

I have learned alot from this channel! Thank you for doing what you do man

Give Tony a break, he's still using Windows Vista

@jeffreymichael540

4 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@kasulebaker8044

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@jamesturner5987

3 жыл бұрын

🤣

@paulroberts9704

2 жыл бұрын

Possibly windows XP

@nicknyse25

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao! That was brutal ah hell! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Tony's video was a really long way of saying "shoot RAW unless you have a very specific reason not to". That's the whole video.

@theplaintruth4794

6 жыл бұрын

He actually said that RAW was basically for pros and people with money, while JPEG is for those with consumer grade cameras and small budgets. RAW for those with data storage and JPEG for those who buy $10.00 cards for their cameras. RAW=wealthy pro, JPEG=poor amateur with a small buffer.

@leecason4582

6 жыл бұрын

The Plain Truth I have low budget and I'm 17 and yet I still shoot in RAW. External drives and hardrives and even SSDs are cheap now

@luckyblueduck

6 жыл бұрын

+The Plain Truth I disagree with some of your statements. If you watch his video again, he says that JPG's might be suited for pros rather, because they may be able to get the exposure correct in-camera since they would have done the right planning for correct lighting, time of the day, location, etc.

@claybutler

6 жыл бұрын

You're correct luckyblueduck. I listened to it again and he's got it totally backwards in his advice. But I still think the overall message is "just shoot RAW". Not sure why Tony spent all that time to basically vote for RAW in the end.

@truknayr23

6 жыл бұрын

@The plain Truth: man seriously? are you that stupid?

In my opinion Tony shows advantages and disadvantages of both formats in easy to understand way.

@thegoldenlights

6 жыл бұрын

in my opinion jared makes more sense.

@MauryELProoducer

5 жыл бұрын

YEAP BUT THIS GUY DOES NOT UNDERSTAND THAT TONY IS EXPLAINING ABOUT EXPORTING RAW FILES AND JPEG FOTOS IN TO A FORMAT THAT SOME PEOPLES DONT KNOW ABOUT HOW MUCH TIME I TAKES TO EXPORTING AND THAT BENEFITS OF A LIGHT ROOM O WETEVER PLATFORM TO WORK WITH I THINK THIS GUY IS ANOINTING AND WAN LIKES AND ATENCIÓN THATS ALL

@constantinosschinas4503

5 жыл бұрын

tony says bullshit in a formal way, without ranting. don't judge a book by it's cover.

@elcapitan428

5 жыл бұрын

Northrup is an idiot...too full of himself...especially of his bullshit...he should join the “flat earth society” ... bet his religion is “scientology”...

@elcapitan428

5 жыл бұрын

@Freerider hmm kinda like claiming ISO doesnt matter huh? Lolz....besides I'm an IT engineer...so who do you think knows better? Jpg vs RAW is similar to midi file vs FLAC for example (audio files in case you didn't know)...besides...ppl who blindly believes in youtube posters...are idiots as well...dont be a lazy ass...do your research...google is a good start...books, photography stores...etc etc etc....just a free hint/piece of advice...oh and lol at the infantile comments in CAPITAL LETTERS!!! MAKES IT MORE TRUE!!! hahah :D

Brilliant advice, Fro. I love how much you put into educating beginning photographers.

"Beginners have no clue what they're doing with RAW files." Me, a beginner: "Yup."

@dangermanv6133

4 жыл бұрын

Shoot in raw or else you will regret it later

@itsamario

4 жыл бұрын

Then you're not even a beginner

@brycewalburn3926

4 жыл бұрын

@@itsamario What do you mean by that?

@itsamario

4 жыл бұрын

re-read your comment one more time then re-read mine

@brycewalburn3926

4 жыл бұрын

@@itsamario I still don't know what you're getting at. I was simply agreeing with the idea that beginners don't know what they're doing with RAW files because I am a beginner and I don't know what I'm doing with RAW files.

I took the time to watch Tony's video and there doesn't appear to be anything ambiguous in there. He opens by saying that sometimes you should shoot jpeg and sometimes you shoud shoot raw then goes on to explain why and the advantages and disadvantage of each file type. Are you sure that this video isn't just a knee jerk response because you are butt hurt that someone is challenging your opinion and that you have unconciously taken certain points out of context.

@ericlowenbach5151

6 жыл бұрын

strongandco You nailed it.

@alanross1117

6 жыл бұрын

Where's the views in sticking with context?

@billvangen

6 жыл бұрын

+1

@AZBlueVeg

6 жыл бұрын

Nailed it! #unsubscribed

@s3icc0

5 жыл бұрын

I don't need to shoot JPEG I can just shoot RAW and instead of doing manual post processing I just apply in camera like preset and export to JPEG ... result? the same .... yeah it takes few moments to import/apply/export but do you guys need your computers at night?

Take a breath, relax, then watch the video again. You’ve taken this out of context. I think you’ll find you’re both trying to say the same thing.

Having "I shoot RAW" on a man's underpants is... very easy to misinterpret. hehehe

@lijinlohithakshan9295

4 жыл бұрын

nO RUBBER INIT

@frnkjones40

3 жыл бұрын

@@lijinlohithakshan9295 I Shoot J with my PEG

@paulelunico

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@jaredpolin I have a question. Trying my best, I can’t match Canon’s JPG incredible color rendering. What’s your opinion about using JPG to avoid waisting time adjusting RAW colors? Thanks for taking your time to answer. (I use 5Dmk3 & EOS R)

@18CC

3 жыл бұрын

U create some presets to edit raw files. So u can edit 200 photos in 10 sec.

@williamansel1367

3 жыл бұрын

If the color is good leave it alone or color grade and edit the photo so it's better most cameras don't have perfect colors tho canon does have great color I'd recommend color grading and editing like other person said just create presets in Lightroom

@greenchillify

3 жыл бұрын

Long time since this question was asked, but perhaps Canon's Digital Photo Professional will be good for you? I haven't used it myself, as I'm a Nikon user and use Nikon's Capture NX-D. But my experience with the Nikon software is that when you open up the raw files, they are set by default with the same colours as you see with the jpegs. Perhaps the Canon software works in a similar way? Beats trying to use Lightroom when you don't really know what you're doing (I'm well and truly in that category), and you can still make many of the same adjustments (exposure, contrast, saturation, etc). Also, the price is right - free.

I thought Tony’s points were clear and well supported. This video takes Tony’s comments totally out of context. It’s easier to be a critic than present original material.

@froknowsphoto

6 жыл бұрын

+Chris P ha. I certainly did in my video. Thanks.

@christianreza144

6 жыл бұрын

yeah, jared doesn't understand the struggles of people with a budget

@alexcarrillo4143

5 жыл бұрын

Chris P - No I do not Agree, does not know history photo history .....

@FirebrandVOCALS

5 жыл бұрын

Yes his points they were clear ... as clear as mud and well supported by the visually challenged.

Who cares what other people think? Why does it matter to you if Tony shoots JPG?

@leecason4582

6 жыл бұрын

Clos MasMas Jared cares because Tony is spreading misinformation

@niklaso

6 жыл бұрын

Actually he isn't, which you would know if you had actually watched the video.

Jared, are you keeping and storing all your RAW pictures or just the ones you’ve classified as keepers?

@Xevion

4 жыл бұрын

Since no one has answered for him: He keeps all of them. Maybe deleting the obvious "nobody would ever need this" ones, but he keeps them all RAW.

7k dislike? This has got to be your most disliked video ever.

@falcon048

3 жыл бұрын

Anytime you have a well known youtuber criticizing a well known youtuber, you're going to get a lot of dislikes.

@jaaycesholiday388

3 жыл бұрын

True but let’s be real. There are some good videos that still get a lot dislikes.

I think Tony Northrup's video was meant for the average amateur photographer. He has a point. I is not always better to shoot "every single shoot" in uncompressed RAW, when an amateur shooter aims to merely produce photos for his own purpose. For example for watching family photos on the tablet. An amateur shooter produces JPEGs in the result and it is OK to skip the development process from RAW to JPEG sometimes, especially in situations Tony Northrup talked about. An no, you are not right about data storage. It is an issue for the average beginner photographer. Most people use SSDs on their laptops or limited capacities on their smartphones. 128, 256 or 512GB are most common. More than a 512GB SSD is rare and very expensive. Always using external hard drives is less comfortable and has not the same mobility. Clouds backupping is also not cheap; the average price is 10 bucks a month for 1TB.

Dude some of this was good but some was ridiculous. Shooting a wedding is important shooting my dog hump his pillow isnt. I shoot the wedding in raw and the humping in jpeg. The fact is jpeg is a little easier. Example: One of my favorite cameras won’t transfer raw to my cell phone. So I can’t quickly transfer (without a card reader) from my camera to my phone then send it to friends or post to social. I do this frequently when I travel. That is a great case for jpeg. All of my paid work is raw and most of the rest is jpeg

@richardgrenfell5829

6 жыл бұрын

I feel that this should be the gold standard for all camera manuals. JPEG: use when Dog humps a pillow Raw: Wedding Photography

@PhotoBob

6 жыл бұрын

Richard Grenfell I think so too

@lucastea9533

Жыл бұрын

this comment made me bust a lung laughing wtf😭

@Luckyrider1958

13 күн бұрын

ok.. so the time it takes to switch from one mode, to the other.. you missed the shot. then what?

Thanks Jared, I saw you videos before but with this one u deserve a big subscribe.

this guy seems personally attacked by jpg's existence

Thank you Jared for telling beginners to shoot in raw/jpeg because if it wasn't for you I wouldn't have had those raw files to fall back on once I had more knowledge on raw files.

@difausto_photography

4 жыл бұрын

Seriously? 😂

@SmallSpoonBrigade

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, you should always shoot raw unless you've got a specific reason not to and have great technique.

how hard was it to stay calm? The Ken Rockwell line was hillarious.

@Zakalwe-01

6 жыл бұрын

That was a superb line! :-D

I like both you guys. And both your views are valid and plausible. Tony isn't perfect, but he is very good, as are most camera vloggers. Your information here is on point, and hard to refute. As a total beginner, I appreciate you both very much. Thanks! (I use the Nikon D5600 and love it)

Spot on JP! One other consideration for always shooting in RAW+ Photo editing software continues to evolve and algorithms for noise reduction and other artifacts continue to improve. I've pulled back some old RAWs from more than 10 years ago and was able to really clean them up much more than was possible when they were originally shot. This trend will continue until there's no longer a need to discuss signal to noise ratios. If you ask anyone who started shooting in the film days whether they wanted just their prints and to forget about the negatives you'd get a very perplexed look in response to the question. It's interesting to hear comments like; "Oh, editing your photos in post is cheating" because if I'm not mistaken, I remember the opposite response to any photographer who post processed their own film. For most people, your images are stored memories to be enjoyed for hopefully generations to come. It is always best to capture images today in the highest possible resolution so that they stand up to the test of time.

Jared you say Tony has incoherent argument, yet the title of your debate is also completely misleading and misrepresenting the situation. This is not a battle on JPEG vs RAW, as many single minded viewer of yours sees it. Rather, it is Jared: shooting RAW all the time regardless, vs Tony: shooting a mix of RAW and JPG depending on the circumstances and the photographer's workflow/preference.

@jurekranjecradkovic7450

4 жыл бұрын

jared is totally right tho...all those statements by tony make no fucking sense

I think Chelsea can beat Jared up.

@leecason4582

6 жыл бұрын

Jason Latorre what does that have to do with photography?

@JayLato

6 жыл бұрын

Lee Cason you are wound up too tight. It was a joke.

@zoltannosparatu8225

6 жыл бұрын

Jason Latorre I wouldn't mind wrestling 3 rounds with Chelsea. Looser has to go down on the winner.

@michellouisgenor7742

6 жыл бұрын

Lee Cason for one it would make a great picture.😂

@rappeezy

6 жыл бұрын

Chelsea could own him in everything, except being a hack.

Lmaoooo thank God I took my lessons from you!!! I have my oldest photos in RAW format + JPEG because I didn't know what to do with the RAW files yet! Now I have been able to use Lightroom and bring back some of the pictures I thought I had lost to under/over exposure 😍 thank you for giving me the best tip a beginner can ask for!!!

you both are great revieuwers ,each with his own style,i watch both of you .

First of all ! That background music doesn’t fit .

@natbarron

6 жыл бұрын

best comment so far

@thuyvu33

6 жыл бұрын

sounds like sleeping jazz music while you are driving to work.

@andrewpolitano

6 жыл бұрын

Man, cry cry cry. You'll be happy to know that he's informed me that going forward he will incorporate Norwegian Death Metal, so you're safe there.

@lslx7120

6 жыл бұрын

Simo Harjane is that a flute or sopranino

@antipodesman

6 жыл бұрын

the music was fine . . . not a problem

What is that background music, I don't think it fits.

@LauraLeeX777

6 жыл бұрын

A Will it's a dare or a bet. Has to be.

@quijadahuguito

6 жыл бұрын

A Will porn-iesc right?

@GreenRC24

6 жыл бұрын

That background music is Tony's sex music that he plays when his wife straps on and slams it into Tony's ass, no spit.

@drinnjohn9959

6 жыл бұрын

Coz hes gay

Man! I love Tony and Chelsea channel, but in this video I'm so agree with you 100%. You are a rock man! Thank you for these so amazing videos you make for us.

I regularly import 300 to 500 photos into lightroom and these load almost instantly in LR.

One of the points I tried to make in the video is you can do whatever you would like, shoot however you would like but in my opinion I feel RAW is the best most logical setting to use. I will continue to stress the fundamentals of photography over everything including RAW. Like I said in the video, I don't care if a beginner shoots JPEG as long as they are out there shooting and learning. And sure, pros can do as they wish but i've run into very few "pros" who actually only shoot jpeg.

@Verspassungsschutz

6 жыл бұрын

@Jared Polin hi jared, i think you made a point. Where can I buy these raw-films? I think I bought accidentaly only jpeg films. Thx for your help

@CameraMystique

6 жыл бұрын

Jared, you have a store right? Ken Rockwell and now Tony are already two customers for your new T-shirts "I shoot jpegs", should you chose to make them :-)

@mikea7654

6 жыл бұрын

Great video Jared! FYI a few of the text quotes shown did not line up with the quote you were saying at that time

@chelseanorthrup8787

6 жыл бұрын

Jared Polin you should unblock our KZread account so we can have a discussion.

@stansid3326

6 жыл бұрын

Jared Polin You would definitely benefit from shooting jpeg more, because apparently camera knows better what to do with the images than you are. That abomination of a gorilla raping a clarity slider you call editing is not something you can call a skill. Why do you care about capturing every bit of RAW data if you gonna fuck it up so bad in the end? Come at me bra! Me shooting my Fuji jpeg only vs you and your "masterful" LR 3 slider moving skills. You'll loose every time.

I shoot film

@SandersonReed

6 жыл бұрын

hipster

@chuchocupil

6 жыл бұрын

Hipster

@BigXarlie

6 жыл бұрын

I shoot polaroid! Who's the hipster now?

@Dezdirectz

6 жыл бұрын

Same

@JeffDvrx

6 жыл бұрын

Broke photographers worldwide unite! *Cries broke tears*

Hello Jared, I also shoot raw and JPEG in all scenarios. In regards to the JPEG, I shoot raw and large JPEG, is this what you'd recommend or shoot raw and small JPEGs? Love your tutorials,Thanks

@SmallSpoonBrigade

2 жыл бұрын

There's no point in shooting RAW+Large JPG unless you need the JPG before you can get back to your computer. Most of the time, RAW conversion software will allow you to convert the RAW with default settings if you need the large JPG to go with the other files.

What are your thoughts on the new CRAW in Canon R5? You talked about the lower detail in shadows for Sony. Is the same the case with Canon?

I've always saved both RAW and JPEG images to my cards. More than once, my bacon has been saved because I had the RAW file to salvage a blown image. Another interesting aspect for me, has been that when Adobe comes out with updated and improved RAW processors in Photoshop, I can go back to my old RAW files and re-process with the new technology and it's often noticably improved. If I pull up an old JPEG, there is only so much I can do with the image, even though the new Photoshop CC 2018 has a RAW processor built in for JPEG editing? Not even close to having the RAW data to draw upon. I buy the best gear I can find, use the fastest cards that have pro quality and dependability and back everything up for future use. I kick myself when someone askes for an image from 2007, I pull it up and it's a JPEG... but then I was only using 8gb CF cards then, but could have given them something so much better if it had been RAW. I did watch Tony's explanation regarding how many camera owners don't have the money for larger capacity cards etc... I'm always looking at these issues from the professional working photographer vantage point and often forget that many hobbyists are looking for the least expensive options. Both have good points. Thanks Jared! RAW is my safety net.

@banjerboefify

6 жыл бұрын

Exactly this!!! I am a hobbyist, and in the beginning I saved both RAW + JPEG to my SD card, because 64 GB SD cards are not that expensive anymore. When I learned to use Photoshop, I imported the old RAW files and tried to fix them (I learned a lot from this as well). Now I only shoot RAW. Quick editing is not an issue anymore with how easy Lightroom is for bulk editing. And if the image doesn't need editing (because the exposure is perfect), then just do a bulk export to JPEG from Lightroom. If an image is not perfect and needs more attention, but it's the only image you have of that very important subject, just drag it into Photoshop to fix it (you can't do this with JPEG). The only time I use JPEG is when I take a picture with my phone.

@rough-trader875

5 жыл бұрын

Good comment!

@scallen3841

5 жыл бұрын

How about people make your own choices , just because some KZread guy say it , doesn't make it the gospel

@tomsveen3671

2 жыл бұрын

I still regret not shooting raw when my baby was newborn back in early 2000s. I'm honestly not even sure if the camera did have raw, but I think it did. I have pictures that could have been so much better. White balance is almost impossible to salvage on old jpgs for instance. Luckily now we are finally at the point with AI processing, so I have gotten some stuff improved due to that, but still the Raws are indispensable.

@FrederickDunn

2 жыл бұрын

@@tomsveen3671 I started with RAW as soon as I could, it was around 2004 for me. Lots of photographers stuck with JPEG not realizing that those were also referred to as "lossy" files. RAW has come a long way for sure! I jumped on the format as soon as it was available. :)

I don’t normally weigh in on social media feuds but it sounds like Jared is worried about t-shirt sales or something. He’s an amusing character but I can only take his me-me-me attitude in small doses. Definitely prefer Tony and Chelsea’s more objective and down to earth tone, and Tony’s comments on JPG vs RAW, while subjective, aren’t so out of line. Solid opinion given the evolving state of digital photography. I still completely trust their gear reviews too. Maybe Fro should grow and evolve a bit too. You have to admit the clownish antics don’t exactly scream credibility.

@froknowsphoto

6 жыл бұрын

+bdsattern hi I’m human who reads comments. Please thing about that I read the comments. I’d make the video again

@ZaberAnsaryOfficial

6 жыл бұрын

bdsattern lol, Fro is trying to sell T Shirts? Never heard him ask me to do so lol. Although as fas as I remember, 30% of every T&C video is begging the Viewers to buy their book and other stuff using their affiliate links... haha

@madtonesbr

6 жыл бұрын

You seem to hold the fact that Tony acknowledges some benefits of RAW against him. Shouldn't you commend him for a balanced viewpoint? I agree with your stance that raw is superior, Jared, but approaching a debate with that mentality is quite immature. It isn't a trial, lol, if Tony acknowledges the benefits of each format this should bring you some satisfaction, and not act like that's yet one more thing to criticize about Tony's video. It's contradictory for you to bash him (correctly) for preferring JPEG, then bash him for noting RAW's benefits. Sounds like you just want an excuse to bash him, even if he agrees with some of your points!

@scallen3841

5 жыл бұрын

Shoot what ever format you want

@PaulAlexander-tokyomagic

5 жыл бұрын

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As an amateur photographer I hope I keep learning about the craft. Even though I might not know how to use the RAW format now I want to be able to go back and revisit it when I figure it out. I’ll keep shooting using both formats.

It seems clear that Jared didn't even try to understand Northrup's video. He was too excited about the chance to upload a click-baity thumbnail and pretend there is some drama.

*I only shoot RAW for my naked selfies* ;D

@NeziNappsakaNezi

6 жыл бұрын

Angriest Photographer lmfao

@alanross1117

6 жыл бұрын

No wonder your angry

@MartinVanBoven

6 жыл бұрын

I sure hope you use that account to do a lot of commenting of the channel of Jabba the Hutt!

The ironic thing about this video is that i'm guessing it's Jared's most disliked video but in reality this might be the most valuable video he's ever made in terms of giving us photographers advice.

@supercuber9805

3 жыл бұрын

ur dumb

My two cents, Jarod...? There is nothing wrong with the perspective to teach, advise, whatever, newbies to shoot raw. There is also nothing wrong with the perspective to teach, advise, whatever, newbies to shoot JPEG. I have learned so much about photography from both you and the Northrup’s and have a high level of appreciation for both of your channels. I can definitely appreciate the passion the three of you have for it!

Shots fired!

@AdamHansen95

6 жыл бұрын

no pun intended? Lol

In reality a huge number of sports shooters shoot JPEG (only) as those under pressure to get images out just don't have time to edit during or after a game and picture editors couldn't care less so long as the image fits the brief and is good enough to publish and arrives on their desk quickly. That's the reality of the editorial market in 2017 although I appreciate it might not fit with you're personal style of shooting and what your channel is trying to promote.

@streetgato9697

6 жыл бұрын

I've shot pro sports part time for local media and I tried to explain exactly the same reasoning you mentioned to friends who are RAW-or-nothing fanatics, it's like talking to gun nuts about gun regulations lol!

@Breeg2011

6 жыл бұрын

This is not my field of photography, but I've already noticed how a lot of people have an entirely different idea of what constitutes a bad picture. Technical brilliance is simply less important to them than one should think and they are much easier to please than somebody who really knows what to watch out for in a picture. And if these people are paying you money for pictures and also expect them to be delivered fast then you just can't expect them to have the patience for a bit of delay even though it might result in better pictures. Sad but true.

@streetgato9697

6 жыл бұрын

+Breeg2011 Please explain your idea of 'technical brilliance' in relation to photojournalism and sports news photography.. Just because editors wanted images quickly does not mean their standards are less strict, you'll be surprised. Remember they have a deadline to meet. Shooting sports under uncontrolled mostly badly lit condition requires absolute technical proficiency in shooting, not necessarily on editing.

@Smoothblue90

6 жыл бұрын

And shooting JPG increases the buffer and reduces the write time when shooting burst.

@slimphotog

6 жыл бұрын

My employer wants jpeg so they're getting jpeg. For them, it's about speed of workflow. And the statement beginning at 7:58 is just plain false. You can walk by some of the sports shooters on the sidelines and hear them firing their Canon at 14 fps for 5 seconds or more.

Jared, question about Canon’s latest raw, CR3. I just got a G7X III that produces CR3. No support in LightRoom or Photoshop. I called Canon who said this is normal with new RAW file forms. Do you have any insights on timing? I hate using Canon’s utility to convert to TIF first.

Beginner question. If I buy the Froknowsphoto pak 3 do I first need a software subscription to lighthouse or adobe photo editor before I can use the different editors?

Dude, don't attack other KZreadrs. Be civil. Your previous live show with you acting all pissy and this negative attitude on this vid are real turnoffs.

@froknowsphoto

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks, acting pissy does happen, I am human. But this video was not attacking, it was giving my thoughts and opinions on what I personally found to be confusing information.

@mecnez

6 жыл бұрын

Roger that. For us noobs who watch your vids, if you do a vid on shooting jpg that would be helpful. Us noobs learn from you experts guys.

@SorenBagley

6 жыл бұрын

When did having a different opinion become an attack? Grown men debate without taking it personal. It's called being an adult

@SteveLaMotteoc

6 жыл бұрын

Oh, come on you personally attacked Tony every chance you got. Just wrong!

@mecnez

6 жыл бұрын

I attacked Tony? Wasn't me. Got the wrong person dude.

Shoot RAW + JPEG. End of argument.

@akimmerede2882

6 жыл бұрын

One Orbit Studios indeed....

@theK174

5 жыл бұрын

Nooo, then you'll fill up your cameras buffer too fast on burst... havent u been paying any attention? Geez :P

@leecason9468

5 жыл бұрын

@@theK174 if you're doing pro burst shotsbthat require that high volume, you should know to shoot raw to begin with.

@leecason9468

5 жыл бұрын

@@theK174 then that negates he need to shoot jpeg at all

@scallen3841

5 жыл бұрын

Why can't people just shoot whatever format they want ? Just because it's said on KZread doesn't mean it's the gospel or written in stone , right or wrong ?

Fro got me out of jpeg really quick when i first started. I learned alot from fro.

Jared your thoughts and comments about this subject are right on, I always shoot Raw everytime, in the old days of film we worked in a darkroom to minipulate our photos this is the same way when we shoot in Raw and then refine them in Light Room. "jpg" images are equivalent of taking pictures with an old polorid camera.

For paid work i always shoot raw. For home, birthdays and random outings with family i will always shoot jpegs. I don't need raw files of the kids playing in the park or on the beach or blowing out their birthday candles, i will nail exposure, upload and store them away, i don't need to edit them and pull out the colours and 'make it my own' or whatever. There's a time and a place to shoot raw and its when you're on a paid job needing professional images for clients and for everything else well that's your choice. Yeah memory cards and hard drives are not crazy expensive but i shoot both photography and video at weddings and come home with about 500-600GB of data per wedding so it adds up very quickly.

@patricktuggles4815

6 жыл бұрын

Ryait Digital yep me too! Unless it’s lowlight

@KarimHosein

6 жыл бұрын

«…but i shoot both photography and video at weddings and come home with about 500-600GB of data per wedding so it adds up very quickly.» …And you think it is because of the raw photos? I only shoot raw, I have two 128GB SDXC class ⑩ UHS-II U3 cards in a 24Mpx camera, and I never get them half filled. Then again, I don't shoot video. The point is, if you shot all your stills in JPEGs, you will still come home with 500-600Gb of data. If you shot no stills, you would still come home with 500-600GB of data.

@JaaksFilm

6 жыл бұрын

Karim Hosein How have you worked out that if i shoot a wedding all in jpeg i will come home with the same amount of data than if i shot in raw? Have i read that right? But anyway my point was Jared saying storage was inexpensive but it soon adds up when coming home with 500-600GB data nearly every weekend between April and September but i obviously always shoot raw for paid work and don't feel the need to shoot everything else in raw to save on storage and not having the need to sit and edit and picture in LR of my kids going down a slide! Went Iceland lastweek with the family and shot in jpeg, got amazing shots that didn't need further editing, they are being viewed at home and put up on Instagram and not much else - again time and a place. Cameras nowadays produce great jpegs so it works for me.

@jdogmcnasty1980

6 жыл бұрын

Same! Personal stuff jpeg. Paying or customer work 14 bit RAW Large

@chasevineland1508

6 жыл бұрын

I agree with you and commented similarly. I will shoot raw when it’s a paid project. Otherwise jpg all the way.

I don't understand why you have to intentionally misunderstand him just so you can make a video about how he's confusing. If you pay attention to what he says then the video makes sense and needs no explanation.

@AZBlueVeg

6 жыл бұрын

Polin knows exactly what Tony is saying, the only reason for this video and the headline is to click bait. I've worked in media for a long time, the only reason for doing something like this is to try and take down a bigger fish. Polin is insecure and jealous. #unsubscribed

@jabkhan6315

6 жыл бұрын

it was a publicity stunt by this douche, you can see in Tony's response video Jared approached him to do a collab with him to get more views lol

You are definitely right...i shoot RAW+JPG from the beginning of getting my first camera and I'm so glad i did because nowadays I got into editing and I can go back to my old pictures and either save them or enhance them :) And it's nice to have both since as an amateur i don't have time to edit every picture

A very Cool explanation of the subject Jared ! You stressed on the importance of quality memory Cards... Do you have a video of your recomendation on them CF & SD Brands sizes ect...Thanks. Laszlo Montreal

Opinion made about specific and usable output options on a camera... MUST ATTACK THAT! THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY FOR EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I shoot RAW 98 percent of the time, but every once in a while I use JPG for the exact reasons Tony mentioned. How is this even an argument? SOMETIMES for less important stuff and if you can get a perfect exposure it is an option some people will use to save time and if basically no post will be done.

Take the photo in the format that gets your job done and paid. No need to create an argument or pick on someone’s preference. Not every photographer has the need or the time to edit their photos and get picky. Most news people that have to deliver the breaking news will shoot in anything that will get the content the soonest to the media team. I cover trade shows and events worldwide and I do most of my processing in camera just to download the best quality possible and get that post sent over to our social media Dept almost instantly. I got the A9 and I’m super happy. I do shoot raw for my personal photography but capture that fraction of a second image and getting my files faster across the globe in a better quality than my iPhone is more important than the file format I choose to shoot at.

@dirkpitt2974

6 жыл бұрын

Yep.. Nailed it exactly

@NealPageNPPHOTO

5 жыл бұрын

Missed the point.. Northrup is offering advice. The advice is faulty and confusing. Your point about media, you might be partially correct, but not really. That's the way YOU do it, not "most news people" (without supportive information). Yet I also agree, if you're shooting trade shows and events, you're getting snaps that don't need editing. Flat, shooting for exposure snaps usually don't warrant any post work.

@TerenceKearns

5 жыл бұрын

Audio Buff, There's nothing confusing about Northrup's advice. It's neither faulty, nor confusing. It's just a discussion on pros and cons... things that balance out, reasons that weigh against each other - that seem to contradict. If you find that confusing, don't do conversations that discuss tradeoffs.

@TerenceKearns

5 жыл бұрын

FK, I got the G9 after 10 years of Canon and it has chenged the way I do things. The features on this thing matter - they open up loads of possibilities. The G9 has changed the way I think about choosing to shoot raw/jpg. I recently did a big trip and I shot both. I like making artistic style/processing decisions in-camera, but then lightroom "cancels" those decisions when it loads the raw files - the JPGs preserve those decisions. I'm becoming less and less concerned about keeping RAWs (incase I want to seriously bend an image our of shape) and incurring the overhead that RAW brings with it. As I mature as a photographer, I want my process to be leaner. Now with the way modern cameras like the G9 give you more in-camera processing options, I like to take advantage of that and not pile up a backlog of work for me in lightroom. These decisions are all subjective, but I feel like I'm moving forward by relying less on big fat raw files to fix my in-the-field decisions.

@r.michaelwalker1901

5 жыл бұрын

And not every photographer shoots mostly for internet content like you seem to. Ones who make prints want the best file to work with and not just the quickest.

When I hired a photographer for my wedding, and when I do for my bi-annual family photos, I only care about the quality of the final images, I definitely don't give a shit about whether or not they "got it right" in camera or not... It kind of seems like intentionally limiting your post processing tools as a form of pretentious arrogance. I'm an engineer and this would kind of be like me bragging to a client that I did all the calculations in my head and didn't use a calculator or software program once because I'm an "expert". That seems a little asinine to me to limit the tools at your disposal and would not impress my clients... Now if someone does that on their free time as a challenge or way of adding to the pressure and suspense of the experience, that would be different. I think some people still stick with film for reasons like that.

@androcci

2 жыл бұрын

You wasted your time writing this long essay. I have watched both videos and Jared is only give you half the story. LOL

I have been a professional commercial photographer for 26 years. I think you both have some good points on your videos, but I think you are 100% right on this one. ALWAYS SHOOT RAW ! JPG is for amateurs or quick reference only.

Jared I was expecting Ken Wheeler to make this king of video,not you.

After watching Tony Northrup's recent reply to this video, I have to say I'm more than a little disappointed in Jared Polin for insisting that the only way he'll respond to Tony Northrup is if they create a "collaboration" video. And by telling Tony that it was guaranteed to "get a lot of views", this tells me that Jared is more interested in his own popularity and monetization, than he is in being an adult and responding to disputes the way normal, civilized people resolve thorny matters. Instead, it seems he's more interested in the circus-like atmosphere he's created. Hey, Jared, guess what, dude? There's more to life than grandstanding and being a clown with a big hairdo. You went way over the line in your criticisms, by attacking Tony Northrup personally. And when he asks you to be mature and respond on a point-by-point basis, you say you'll only do it if you have an audience. Once again, score one for Tony Northrup for being a very classy individual, and handling things like a true professional. And strike two for Jared, who - despite making some decent points in the body of his video - still ends up using a Straw Man argument, (after all, Northrup points out that the MAJORITY of his shots still are, and have always been, RAW), while Jared ends up looking about as classy as a Rodeo Clown. I actually didn't believe the people who were accusing you of invoking Tony Northrup's name as clickbait. But after seeing that you won't be grown-up enough to respond to his video unless you can profit from it monetarily, and "get lots of views", it tells me that you probably really are the goofy, adolescent you play in your RAW Talk videos. I thought it was mostly an act, but now I'm suspecting that may be your actual state of arrested development. And hopefully, by the time Mom's recessive gene kicks in, and your Male Pattern Baldness forces you to change your name to "Middle Aged Balding Jewish Guy Knows Photo", you will have learned a thing or two about showing some class to others, even if you don't get paid for it, and you can't mug for the camera as you are doing it. But for now, Jared, its: HASHTAG: Big Freakin' Baby.

@KEKuu

6 жыл бұрын

LOL i got these cheeeeseburgers maannn

@NatNetNitNotNut

6 жыл бұрын

lmao Tony's response video was posted since 17th of November so yes the info was from Tony himself hahaha! someone's very late to the party eh

@LudwigVonBremen

6 жыл бұрын

I am aware of that, in case you ment me... and that's exactly what i ment. If @professionalvideos got the information from Tony himself wich obviously is indeed the case, then his information source is not objective enough... tony may have just said that without being truth... and yes, i am late at the party indeed, but still trying to defend Jared in this case ... I already pointet out my reasons for that.

@knghtcmdr

6 жыл бұрын

You lost me when you insulted Jared

@d.h.6486

6 жыл бұрын

Straw Man argument or RAW Man argument??? 😂😂😂

Jared I’m surprised you take time to answer what others do, you are better than that. I’m a beginner and I’m trying to understand what is good and bad for most but, one thing I have noticed is say what you think is best from your point of view and we as watchers will decide what is good for us to try and work with. Thx for all your good videos I have now watch a few of yours I think you are very professional in your art !!

Hey Jared, I have been struggling with the way I should be shooting. I shoot a jpeg with cine style as the picture profile for a flat image that I can edit in post and they turn out pretty good. The thing I am wondering is that it seems as if cine style is a lot more flat with a lot less saturation than raw. Should I still be shooting raw instead of jpeg with cine style? What are the pros here if the jpeg pictures with cine style seem more flat than raw? Is the dynamic range in raw still higher than cine style jpegs even though the jpegs seem much more flat in post? I have been struggling for months trying to figure which of these I should shoot in. I understand that cine style is mainly for film rather than photography but I have looking to shoot in the flattest profile that will give me the most dynamic range with the least amount of grain. Thank you for your time!

@SmallSpoonBrigade

2 жыл бұрын

You can always convert RAW into JPG. If the RAW image is more flat than the cine style jpegs, that's because of your settings. You can always boost the saturation and contrast if you really want to, but in general, people tend to over saturate images because it makes them more immediately appealing, even if it detracts from other elements of the image.

Shooting unimportant images... How about just a quick selfy on your pro camera in jpeg to send straight to your phone to upload... Perfect example of an unimportant image get over yourself

@madtonesbr

6 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Just because Tony says not every picture has to be perfect doesn't mean he's advocating for throwing out the baby with the bathwater and saying that the picture quality doesn't matter. That's a "slippery slope" argument most high-school debaters realize is fallacious and it surprises me that Jared makes that argument. It seems Jared believes he has to disagree with everything in Tony's video. Jared criticizes Tony's preference for JPEG, but also criticizes Tony's acknowledgement that RAW has many benefits? Does he just want to disagree with EVERYTHING in Tony's video just because he disagrees with the overall premise? Being unwilling to acknowledge anything in Tony's video seems quite clickbaity and immature.

It was TKO once “Ken Rockwell wants his argument back” ! I just signed in to say I love the new content on your channel . Seems exciting like it was in 2011 when I found the Fro !

Why not just have your camera take both? Is there a disadvantage to doing that? I have been doing that for some time and it seems to work out well. The biggest issue seems to be the time spent separating file types. Generally, I will just work and post the jpegs up to Facebook. If there is something that I want for myself, I just work with the raw file. Just throwing that out there for what it's worth.

Saying that you can always nail the exposure when you get better seems kind of bs to me. People will always make mistakes, shit happens. And if you don't have variable ND filters, sometimes it might not even be possible to get both the exposure of ground level and the sky right: either your sky will be blown out or your ground too dark. With raw you can often keep both. Totally agree with Jared's points on this one.

@SmallSpoonBrigade

2 жыл бұрын

Sort of. With more experience, you tend to under-expose a bit, and know what to expect in terms of blown highlights. Also, in many types of photography, you'll have the ability to look at the histogram to see that the exposure was right. Obviously, that's not always the case, especially in areas like sports photography.

Jared, I don't care what some guy at Sony told you about shooting uncompressed RAW but it is NOT necessary to do so in order to save all of the data in the image! It's just plain wrong!!!! Lossless compressed has all of the data in it. Please show an example of an image that was shot in compressed lossless that fell short off an uncompressed one. It's all your call of course but there is no reason to do this. You didn't really convince me to shoot uncompressed because you told some anecdotal story by a guy at Sony that might be connected to their R&D department. Sorry, but I've worked in IS for 20 years and know that lossless compressed == lossless uncompressed.

@froknowsphoto

6 жыл бұрын

that's what I asked them. They said in some situations you "may" see loss of detail in some shadow areas.

@nurd45

6 жыл бұрын

I'd would really like it if that guy could have provided some examples. Also did you ever reach out to a Nikon, Canon, or Fujifilm guy to ask what they thought?

@chrishobden169

6 жыл бұрын

Certainly on Nikon lossless is just that, lossless. In theory you could take a compressed NEF and turn that into a bit for bit identical uncompressed NEF with the correct algorithm. No software engineer would call something lossless if there is a loss of some data, if you did it would be lossy, when you zip up a Word document and then unzip it again you don't expect it to suddenly have a few spelling mistakes. You can enable compression on many file systems, I would expect cloud providers already use such compression, you backups are probably compressed right now but when you download them again you expect them to be the exact same file you uploaded.

@nurd45

6 жыл бұрын

FWIW here is a link offering a simplified explanation: photographylife.com/compressed-vs-uncompressed-vs-lossless-compressed-raw

Taking things out of context to diss someone just for a few cheap clicks. This is very disappointing.

Looks a lot like Rockwell quotes from Tony. Im with you On this Fro 👍🏽

I don't understand why so many dislikes. This man tells truth. First time I had my camera I said "what is this shitty file I cannot open"

Fro is thinking from a very different perspective from Tony's, which means, neither is wrong. For professionals who sell their photos like Fro, RAW is a must-have, but most people - considering the opportunity cost of their time and other stuff Tony mentioned - might be better off with properly exposed JPEG plus some light post-processing like snapseed/VSCO.

@KarimHosein

6 жыл бұрын

«…considering the opportunity cost of their time and other stuff Tony mentioned….» Like buying a DSLR with lenses and two card slots. Tony does not make videos for most people. Consider his audience, the people who buy his books, Adobe Lightroom CC Video Book, and Stunning Digital Photography.

@SmallSpoonBrigade

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but even if you're bad with computer graphics, most cameras ship with software that can convert the RAW file using the metadata to give you a better quality shot than the jpg coming out of the camera directly. Computers just have more RAM and processing power to run better algorithms than cameras do. And you can do the same photo several times with different amounts of noise reduction applied without being any sort of technical genius.

I don‘t understand Tony. But no hate in the comments please!

Would wanting to live-tether all photos of a sports game over 4k be a reason to shoot jpeg+raw, with the jpeg being the one sent over 4g for instant release? (esp if you like shooting 20 fps on an r5 in silent mode).

Totally agree with all of comments I enjoy all of your videos keep up the good work

Man, KZread photographers are touchy

You misunderstood many statements Jared. 1. Tony said that beginners can use RAW. Also he has guided in other videos about what to do with RAW2. By important shots he meant shots which one gets paid or has to be printed.3. The memory card running out issue was for beginners and for the situation where one carries less no. of cards.4. I use a 700D and it starts buffering after 2 continuous shots in RAW.

I know it's not the main point - but I'd love to get more detail on your backup strategy - I'm also using a variety of Backblaze, cloud services, Drobo, etc.

I haven't seen one of your videos in maybe a year. It's my wife who owns the fancy camera, but I learned about you while researching a camera to buy for her. You make me feel like a photographer....lol. God bless you....and I'll be sure and pass this video on to the Mrs.

In the past I ONLY shoot RAW with my D750, but now I shoot JPEGs for event photography, no clients care about image detail. In fact, they pay me to remove detail from their faces, so yeah I think Tony's point of shooting JPEGs for saving hard drive space is valid. Right now I only shoot RAW for my personal photography.

@leecason4582

6 жыл бұрын

Shang-Hsien Yang hard drives are so cheap. If you're regularly getting clients like you claim to be, storage should not be a problem.

@shang-hsienyang1284

6 жыл бұрын

Lee Cason Fortunately yes, I have recently added an 8 TB drive and I was kind of surprised how cheap storage have become these days.

@scotthullinger9955

6 жыл бұрын

I for one am a photographer who has spent countless hours viewing KZread videos by working photographers who dispense all sorts of advice. And I must say, Tony Northrup's ideas make by far the most sense to me with regard to practicality, and also saving plenty of time & money making rather unnecessary purchases. After all, most of us actually do have a life outside of the world of photography.

Jared, there's an old expression: "Don't shit where you eat." And that's exactly what you, in your foolishness, just did. And it's going to come back to haunt you for a long time to come. Allow me to explain: First, let me say, I happen to like both you AND Tony & Chelsea Northrup a lot. And, apparently, so do many of your viewers, because they obviously watch both channels. So, I'm not talking to someone I despise, and sticking up for someone I love. Because I love you both, and I think both channels offer tremendous insight, (and entertainment), from differing perspectives. However, having said that, let me comment on one thing only: How you treated a colleague in the business. I won't comment at all on the merits of your argument or his; I don't really care, and, truth be told, you two are not really as far apart as your video might suggest. (Because I guarantee that Tony Northrup could easily have played Devil's Advocate in his own video, and raised every single point you make here in yours.) What needs to be addressed is how young people often do stupid things in brash arrogance, and they end up looking back and wishing they had used a more moderate tone, years later. Instead, what you did was to create a needless rivalry, because Tony's video merely said, (in the title), "Why I started shooting jpg more". He didn't say he shoots it exclusively, and that everyone else should, too. He just said that he doesn't always need the extra latitude that RAW gives, because he nails the shot in camera. And feeling you've nailed the exposure is really a matter of personal preference. That seems like a fairly reasonable statement; he shoots JPEG a little more than he used to. And I guarantee that you will now be asked to comment on LOTS of other videos. (Both theirs and others.) And if you don't, you'll be accused of being weak, or in bed with them, or whatever. For one thing, who gives a rip that you've been getting a lot of people asking you to comment on somebody else's video? That's a recipe for potential disaster right there, because there's really not much of an upside for you, and PLENTY of possible downside. You could simply have a policy saying, "I don't comment on other people's videos. There are others who can defend or critique those videos; I concentrate on making this channel the best it can be." BOOM! Period! That's all you had to say. But, instead, you chose to not only attack the ideas that Tony Northrup was conveying, but also, (by strong inference), the man himself. You used incendiary words like, "confusing", [implication? Tony Northrup is a very confused person], and "flip-flopping", [Tony Northrup is unstable!], and that he uses and "old, stupid argument". [Translation? Tony is an old, stupid guy. After all, why else would he use such an argument?] You also started off basically calling him a LIAR. He said that it took 24 hours to import his RAW files, and without contacting him to find out the specifics, you said "I just can't buy that! I think that is exaggerating quite a lot!" Translation? You can't trust that Tony Northrup! That guy is just a flat-out liar. At best, he'll inflate his numbers wildly, just to make an otherwise bogus point." Did you call him and say, "Hey, Tony, this is Jared Polin. I keep getting people asking me to comment on your new video. Could you explain why it took almost a full day to upload your photos into Lightroom? Because that seems so weird. I'm usually able to upload even massive numbers of RAW files pretty darn quickly. And is that common for you, or was it an anomaly?" Who knows? He might have said he was using a laptop from 1995, or that he had 60,000 files to convert. But to imply he's "exaggerating quite a lot" is probably something you should verify first, before making that claim. Wouldn't you want him to do the same for you? In regard to storage space, you said, "Come on, Tony!It's not 1996. Ken Rockwell just sent me a two-way page, and he wants his argument back!" So, once again, the implication is that Tony is a dummy compared to you, and that he's living in the land of antiques. (And yet, somehow, his channel manages to have nearly 150,000 more subscribers than you do.) The fact is, that was a totally unnecessary dig at him, and was only intended to make him look foolish. - Which is fine, by the way, if person you're mocking really is an old relic, or if they are an egotistical blowhard. But Tony Northrup is neither of those things. he strikes me as a pretty down-to-earth and humble guy. So, mocking the humble doesn't exactly make YOU look good. (And, news flash: The 1990's called and they want their overused and totally antiquated "So-and-so just called and they want their ______ back" joke returned ASAP. Because it's kind of ironic that you try to make him look old and outdated by using a joke that's old and outdated.) You claim he contradicts himself by saying that "RAW files are amazing", but then makes a case for shooting JPEG, too. Where's the contradiction? I shoot both JPEGs and RAW, depending on my needs. Some shoots are more "RAW-worthy" than others, and somethings, (like a kid's birthday party), may be fine for just JPEGs. It's not a contradiction to say good things about both JPEG and RAW. They both have their plusses and minuses. And even if some minuses, (like file size), aren't nearly as big of an issue as they used to be, it's still a factor. (And if you want to talk about "contradictions", watch one of your own videos where you lament the huge file sizes of RAW files when it comes to filling up a buffer on a new camera.) To say that, "If you're going to hold the shutter down for 10 seconds, you might as well shoot video", makes you sound very ignorant about the resolution of video vs. still shots. (Which I know you're not.) But just because YOU'D never shoot for 10 seconds straight, lots of people would -- especially wedding, sports and event photographers. They might like having ability to make a video from full-frame still photos. But the larger point here is not about specs. It's about making enemies unnecessarily, and making people look stupid, just because you disagree with them on a technical matter. Although I respect your background as someone who worked at a camera store, and who has an extensive knowledge of lenses and camera specs, I have to say that Tony Northrup is pretty much an uber-geek when it comes to the science and technology of cameras, light, lenses and computers. Which, in layman's terms, means he knows a helluva lot more than you do. (His background in software doesn't hurt, either.) So for you to paint him as some sort of out-dated relic who just doesn't understand the basics about technology makes YOU look like a dummy, because you obviously don't know that this guy could drink you under the table, technology-wise. There's no need to mock him, just because you disagree. And even less reason, when he is more like a PhD. and you're a snarky college sophomore, when it comes to camera technology. That's not meant as an insult to you; it's just a fact. That guy is a major whiz kid in regard to technology. (And it only takes watching a few episodes of "Photo News Fix" to see that you're not.) Here's the thing, Jared: you're going to be running into Tony Northrup and his wife 4 or 5 times a year at various photo events, and now - because of you - it's always going to be awkward. You could have simply commented on his viewpoint, but instead, you chose to make him look like an out-dated ignoramus, and pretty much of a liar, too. Not especially smart, if you're going to have to run into him at numerous events for years to come. And what did you get out of it? Right now, your video has about 500 views, which means you've made, what? Probably less than 5 dollars for your video. There's not a lot of upside for you, but because you now crapped at the same table where you must eat, the downside is lots of unnecessary bad feelings and awkwardness for years to come. Again, you not only challenged his ideas, (totally fine), you went after the man - as if he's a liar and a fool. When the reality is, he's probably significantly smarter than you in the very realm you attacked him. You're a pretty smart guy; he's just smarter. So, in the end, it doesn't make you look good. It reminds me of the scene in the Norm MacDonald movie where he is hanging out the window of a car, as it drives by a line of people at a movie theater, and he mocks them and calls them idiots. And then all of a sudden, the driver pulls over, and parks in front of those same people. Pretty awkward. You'd be smarter to use the strategy used by people at the pinnacle of their profession, (like Rush Limbaugh), who never engage in rivalries, and never comment on the competition. They concentrate on building their brands, and leave the smack-talk for people much farther down the food chain. Instead, you make this sound both petty and personal. (As in your pinned question, "Such a strange bunch of contradicting statements in his video, do you agree?") This is definitely not your most shining moment, Jared. You took what could have been a mere technical debate, and used it to try to humiliate and belittle someone more successful than you. And that rarely makes anyone look classy or at the peak of their profession. It comes off as mere professional jealousy.

@Paine137

6 жыл бұрын

professionalvideos So you criticize him for being critical by being critical of his criticism. Maybe you need to buy a mirror.

@Paine137

6 жыл бұрын

professionalvideos I didn’t realize “You look like a dummy” passed for intelligent criticism, and I’m sure Jared and others wait for your verbose commentary with bated breath. You must cry a lot.

@professionalvideos

6 жыл бұрын

Once again, DF, (aka "Dumb F*ck"), chimes in with a comment displaying his obvious inability to read more than a single paragraph before running out of steam, intellectually. Because if you HAD read the entire post, (yes, I know, that's like asking a First Grader to read "War & Peace"), you'd see I said far, far more than the 5 words you managed digest before exhausting your daily supply of brain cells. So, I'll let you get back to your favorite pasttime, spending time online having breath-lessly (mastur)bated to your favorite porn sites. Leave the intelligent commentary to the grown-ups, ok?

@Paine137

6 жыл бұрын

professionalvideos Another fragile ego screaming into the void: you really do cry a lot, don’t you.

@professionalvideos

6 жыл бұрын

Let's see.... SOMEONE is screaming into the void... and it comes back as an echo. Maybe that's because, O Little Lazy Mind, you are repeating yourself. Little Dumb F*ck isn't known for having two original thoughts in a row... unless, of course, you count him saying the same thing twice. (In fact, didn't your original post use the same word three or four times in a row?) Once again, you show how little intellectual firepower you possess. But, that was obvious from the fact that you weren't able to create a handle for yourself more than two-letters long, before you got tired out from thinking so hard. You're really not suited for this, are you?

I love when KZreadrs respond to each other's videos.

Jared how often do you shoot RAWs on your phone?

I don’t even need to watch his video to realize that you’re the one blowing it all out of proportion with a little joke and a dig here and there for your own amusement. (See, that’s the thing with people that really know how to teach: they do so without their content being at the expense of others). There’s a time and place and pros and cons for everything and he’s seemingly highlighting the advantages and disadvantages of Raw and Jpg. So what’s your issue anyway? Shoot however you like. It feels more like you’re picking a fight rather than actually being constructive. Not that one could confuse your channel for having serious content... The next time I stumble upon one of your videos I’ll just ignore it. I once stumbled upon another which I’d just as soon forget.

@thegoldenlights

6 жыл бұрын

jared is a much better teacher in my opinion

@SatsuiEvilRyu

6 жыл бұрын

@Alexandre Bettencourt shut the fuck up. Jared is more successful then you so you should not be talking.

@TheIkaika777

5 жыл бұрын

SatsuiEvilRyu, wow, fanboy much?

@NealPageNPPHOTO

5 жыл бұрын

Then you've missed the point of Jared's channel and clearly don't follow it. We already suffer from enough pc bullshit, to listen to the another libtard defender of the feelings complain about something you claim to never view anyway. Here's some advice, don't watch his channel.

@marcwatt8649

5 жыл бұрын

Audio Buff So what you are saying is his opinion offends you? You had your feelings hurt so bad you felt compelled to write a comment telling him to stay away , That he isn’t welcome to express his own? So you would rather only have people singing jared polins praises? Theres a word for that, its Circlejerk. It means you are at the very least bi-curious.

Does it really matter? If you want to shoot Raw, shoot Raw if not shoot jpg. This whole jpg vs raw debate gets triesome to be honest. If you nail a jpg you don't need to shoot raw. If you mess things up you need to shoot jpg or if your like me and your camera allows it, shoot both. Simples.

@SurferKroky

6 жыл бұрын

Howie Mudge Photography Of course it matters ! There is so much more shadow and highlight detail in raw files . Anyone seriously about their photography should be shooting raw for so many different reasons .

@NikolaiCherepanov

6 жыл бұрын

It’s kinda of like how the full frame vs crop is old

@SimplestUsername

6 жыл бұрын

It's not that Simple Correcting a "mess up" is only one of the many benefits of shooting raw. If there are subtle Hue, WB, Tint, and Dynamic Range adjust that are needed to take a photo from "good" to "great" shooting raw allows you to do that while producing less digital noise and compression artifact resulting in a better image. These things (other than WB) are aspects of photography you can't easily adjust on the fly and must be done in post.

@UnconventionalReasoning

6 жыл бұрын

Howie Mudge Photography, yes, this debate matters, because people listen to these guys when they are learning to be better photographers. Your answer has an identical validity to theirs, so you including your suggestion shows that the question matters. :-)

Do i need lightroom to edit star shots or would pse2018 be ok in raw to edit it??

Does lightroom have a way of converting your raw to JPG in bulk once you done editing them?

@flavioy2f

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, you can even create your own preset and export in bulk once you're done editing.

Dude, I think you misunderstood Tony's video.

@Hhhgghhh1235

6 жыл бұрын

tetsujin210 I think you misunderstood this video

@OhRightPictures

5 жыл бұрын

Jared certainly was....

Jpeg is for people taking pictures with their DSLRs for fun but RAW is for people really trying to make the best photographs possible. Thats how it is in my mind

@ZZYZXXXX

6 жыл бұрын

Exactly what my take is.

@brucesmith9144

6 жыл бұрын

You do realize your histogram - even in live view - are JPEG processed. So we do rely on JPEG processing capabilities of the DSP behind the sensor a lot. This is more than "fun stuff" and is really quite powerful and useful.

@RogerZoul

6 жыл бұрын

That makes zero sense. I did not buy a dslr to not make the best photos possible. And fun is making the best photos possible. Hence, there is no reason to shoot jpegs, ever, unless you work for someone who needs the image soon after you take the shot and there is no time to process jpegs.

@HenryYong

6 жыл бұрын

connorb19 so sport shooters are taking pictures with DSLRs for fun????

@MartinVanBoven

6 жыл бұрын

"The best picture is the one you took." And as argued, there are situation where using jpeg only gives you that, while using or adding raw would not have. It seems you are as confused as Jared.

Why is your hair always wider on your right side than your left side?

It’s like ppl arguing about which camera make is best. At the end of the day they are all tools to get the results the photographer wants, who cares what everyone else thinks, do what’s works for you.

@androcci

2 жыл бұрын

The best camera is the sony alpha 1. Literally 😆

Not informative at all. You lack nuance, but that's not new. Still enjoy your vids, but this vid is terrible.

@MuffFlux

6 жыл бұрын

Spot on. I've unsubbed, resubbed multiple times because of this same reason! xD

@thechaosvlogs6904

6 жыл бұрын

Wanna see the worst cringe worthy video watch his canon trip video.

@theplaintruth4794

6 жыл бұрын

I like Jared, sure, he's massively egocentric, BUT he's entertaining and has awesome friends and I like Philadephia over Connecticut where Chelsea and Tony live :) how many times does Tony's channel use Chelsea's good looks to lure us in only to derail the topic to something else? That is true "click-bait" Jared is just being honest about why he does what he does, Tony is more calculating and viewer savvy.

@theplaintruth4794

6 жыл бұрын

After thought, IF Jared had a Hot Girlfriend working with him, his viewership would DOUBLE instantly.

Anyone watching this after Tony's response? XD

@lslx7120

6 жыл бұрын

Sourajyoti Paul anybody?

Well stated, Jared!

Tony you are #1 of the best about Camera Thank you for great my camera is new good live for picture good profession to my friend.

I will make a shirt with a "I Shoot JPEG"

@chandy-kane

5 жыл бұрын

Jayel Lagrada 😂😂😂

Jared... your clickbait is hanging out.

Jared you are so correct on your comments on Raw vs Jpg. When I started YES I used Raw+Jpg, and actually even today I still do the same...

Totally agree with you Jared. Only observation is learning Lightroom CC 2021 (not Classic) is so simple to learn now, I'd suggest anyone should go try editing and learn at the same time as learning their camera and photography in general 😊📸.