Tony Blair on the future of liberalism
Speaking in London at The Economist’s Open Future festival on September 15th 2018, former British prime minister Tony Blair spoke to Helen Joyce about Brexit, immigration, technology and political participation.
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Like him or not, that was a horrendous introduction to an interview.
@jaydavies3758
3 жыл бұрын
I agree it was shocking.
@drachna
3 жыл бұрын
I thought that it was sort of refreshing, if a bit rude.
@Blank-km4qr
Жыл бұрын
I thought it was a great introduction right to the point
@paulleahy8226
Жыл бұрын
errr, the truth,,
Amusing that none of the clowns commenting here actually listened to the interview in which they talk about how social media has become a platform for an exchange of abuse and slogans rather than serious argument.
"I think you will find, when death takes its toll all the money you made will never buy back your soul"- Bob Dylan.
@splinterbyrd
4 жыл бұрын
That's a bit much coming from Bob Dylan who's not exactly poor
@MacJaxonManOfAction
3 жыл бұрын
@@splinterbyrd Last time I checked, Dylan wasn't responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people.
@user-qy8fv1qp4x
2 жыл бұрын
Nobody is responsible. There are countries that just want to fight rather that study and develop themselves.
@nealbeard1
2 жыл бұрын
Name them
@nealbeard1
2 жыл бұрын
But did he sell his soul to get that money?
Say what you like about him. Britain seemed a lot happier under Blair than the current government.
@Thomas-ok9ot
3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@user-qy8fv1qp4x
2 жыл бұрын
He’s clever. He’s nice. Anyhow he has common sense.
@kevinjackson6387
2 жыл бұрын
Really I don’t think so ,fecking horrible human ,he should be locked up ,for war crimes ,this guy as so much blood on his hands with his leader bush ,
@kevinjackson6387
2 жыл бұрын
@Midorima Shintaro did he really ,I was made redundant for the first time in my life when he was in power ,this so called working class party finished being that when he came to power ,we know he will never go to prison for what he did because to many peps protect him,one of the biggest mass murders of all time and can get away with it,makes me feel sick ,
@epa2349
2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinjackson6387 You might have, but vast majority were much more economically secure under him than they have been in last 10 yrs. He ran the economy beautifully, all classes of people benefitted from it. There's a reason why he was reelected with so massive mandate, because he connected left, right, centre alike politically. The so-called working class party labor party were out of power for 18 freaking year. Their old school socialist policies were out of touch with British people. Tony understood that which is why he made the party ditch socialism & adapt centre-left policies. Look at what happened when Corbyn tried to make labor go back to Socialist routes. British public rejected it. Labor desperately need a leader like Tony now to get back to power. Regarding foreign policy, yes he made a massive massive mistake blindly following Bush to Iraq. But he also saved the lives of over hundreds of thousands of Kosovo people who were being genocided by serbs. There are still kids in Kosovo today who are named after Blair. Villain in one part, while hero in another. If you are iraqi, he should seem like devil to you. But if you are brit, there's not much complain about him, he is easily the best PM of UK since Atlee.
Did I just miss the link she pointed out to Bannon talk ? Please direct me, if you may. Thank You, Sir
A program on Joe Cox could be meaningful at this juncture. Tony was right when he says " decision divides".
congratulations to the economist for designing the most awkward, uncomfortable interview stage I have ever seen
....oh and became a middle eastern peace envoy without a shred of irony !
@helenrowley1886
4 жыл бұрын
that was a reward for waging war on Iraque
I don't really like how at the start he doesn't really answer any of her questions since he basically changed the topic to technology and society. They were very valid questions to be asking and they need discussion.
@blackout07blue
5 жыл бұрын
He is literally a Neoliberal.
@paulgibbons2320
5 жыл бұрын
He never directly answers any questions. Just sells you his direction. That's his career all over.
@antielite5379
5 жыл бұрын
He doesn’t have any answers
@paulgibbons2320
5 жыл бұрын
@@antielite5379 guilty as charged would have done lol
@TrevKen
5 жыл бұрын
Spin doctor in chief.
Sincerely great questions
What on earth was that introduction?
Putting everything aside, he does have some relevant points to make.
What really annoys me re the question about uncontrolled immigration is that the mechanism already exists in EU legislation to control that no UK Government has decided to implement it. Germany & Belgium have and they have a harder job of it because they're not Islands like us. If you can't prove you have work or have adequate funds to support you and your family you have to leave, same in Switzerland. UK governments past and present throw the immigration question around like confetti but they all know they've just been too lazy in the past and present to implement the policy that already exists.
@user-qy8fv1qp4x
2 жыл бұрын
You judge as a British. And there are global things.
@severianoneto
2 жыл бұрын
Well I can tell you in Switzerland it’s not the way you describe here.
@JK-br1mu
Жыл бұрын
Oh yah, Germany did a greatttt job controllling immigration when they let in like 3 million migrants in the 2010s.
I am intensely relaxed...
Thoughtful
If Boris was in the shoes of Blair with regards to Iraq, he would have done the same, plus a lot worse. It was just unfortunate for Blair (and for May, too) that he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. He worked with dedication to make peace in Northern Ireland.
@miki4309
3 жыл бұрын
What? Is Johnson some kind of benchmark? He’s the most thoroughly undeserving and ill equipped PM in our history and demeans the office every day he’s there.
@chillwinston8961
2 жыл бұрын
This implies that the UK helping to invade Iraq was some sort of inevitability. Like it would have happened no matter who was in power, but this isn’t true. While the British government was largely supportive multiple other countries that were just as developed opposed or ended up opposing the wars in the Middle East, look at France and Canada. Blair’s decision to invade did not happen “because he was in the wrong place at the wrong time” it happened because he believed the US and decided to invade the country against international law and the UN, and that’s on him.
Interview Cameron .See if he can put together a sentence!!
Spot on
Populism is not rampant in Europe, some small states mimic Trump's right wing rhetoric, but Germany is still liberal, so without cooperating with Merkel, British opted to leave EU, almost like axing one's own feet.
My old Webster's dictionary says liberalism is a belief in autonomy and the rule of law.
Great interview. I'm appalled by so negative previous comments. Most of them seem from people who never listen what he said about the difficulty of doing politics and liberalism. I think he is also right about the sad situation where social media has become the pace of big mouths and small brains
@Havensand
5 жыл бұрын
We listen and read and judge I was misled by Tony blare he talk to many lies to my licking
@electrasong9954
5 жыл бұрын
He is such a huge manipulator and liar.. and I suppose someone would say, 'he's a politician'... but he is the 'face', the poster boy of Soros' old New World Order. He's despicable.
@dreamer2260
2 жыл бұрын
You are correct.
Great . RIGHT, Something that bothered me was those chairs! haha they look so uncomfortable.
@chrismulhern82
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah right 1). The stools are placed to close to each other. 2). The water table is to far 3). There’s nowhere to place the water
@user-qy8fv1qp4x
2 жыл бұрын
She took away water before he ended his speech😅
Sorry, turned off after that intro. That presenter drove me mad. Imagine interviewing Tony Blair and not having the smaller ego? Amazing.
People should be viewed upon by their achievements more than their failures.
@JackSurvana
3 жыл бұрын
Depends on how bad the failures are
@kenrunciman8706
2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure all those dead in Iraq would agree. The public knew it was all a lie, and Blair did his utmost to bull-doze through any opposition, because a decision had already been made to go to war regardless. He did not serve the British people, he was too interested in his own self-promotion, by ingratiating himself to the US military industrial complex, and all the zionists who have been forced into attacking Israel's enemies, because they had all been compromised by Epstein and Maxwell's sting operation on Love Island.
@Isochest
9 ай бұрын
His achievements were failures except in the eyes of a few Oligarchs
You think I spend a life time in politics and I'm gonna tell you what I really think?" - I like his honesty regarding the dishonest nature of politics. Would Boris ever be that honest about keeping the truth under wraps?? Ha ha......
Happy birthday tony from italian boy live in rome
“Liberal” yeah right, gives true classical liberals a bad name.
@halberggb3124
2 жыл бұрын
The "True classical liberal" tag has become a meme at this point.
Bored with this obsession with TB on Iraq. He has lot of interesting stuff to say and made a big difference to the UK. I still remember the absolute relief when this generally moderate, rational person won the election and we escaped the Tories for a bit.
@chrismulhern82
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed !
@dreamer2260
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
please can I have that in writing. KZread good but text is better,
The Hague's looking very relaxed these days
Firstly I like Tony Blair. He is a smart thinker. Secondly this set up looks awkward. Why are they sitting so closely? Look how far the water is ? They have to walk over to get it. Mr Blair then needs to place his glass to the ground. Poor stage management but simple solutions. I should be in show business.
@chrismulhern82
3 жыл бұрын
I am a cobbler, in the shoe business but just one typo away from being in show business.
One of our kind
Wtf is this guy doing on a podium
@mrbanana69
5 жыл бұрын
He was Prime Minister
@terryweaver9140
5 жыл бұрын
He _IS_ a class traitor and war criminal.
@experimental_av
5 жыл бұрын
And the he sold his handshakes to dictators. horrible human being.
@blackout07blue
5 жыл бұрын
No shit. He is a dumbass. And an elitist fuck who’s against helping working people or poor people. Only the rich.
@Mrianmarshall
5 жыл бұрын
I think he should be the next prime Minister.
Wow, what an intro. This journalist has serious balls.
@Nero-ox5tw
3 жыл бұрын
Not much brains though
My take on the future; Bush and Blair will never walk down Main St Baghdad hand in hand without an army of heavily armed comandos.
@wbafc1231
4 жыл бұрын
@olehomer1988 Yeah from the corrupt bandits that they put in power.
The interviewer looks a bit like Amber Rudd!
influence = work together
Does anyone know what essay Blair was referencing at 4:31 that was written by the interviewers editor? It might be useful for a dissertation that I'm writing. Or at the very least it'll feel more credible then referencing someone who is basically a war criminal lecturing people on how to be a liberal despite the fact that he's pissed all over the core liberal beliefs. :L
Economic liberalism by trade, but you have to control your own borders and currency or you're not a real country. Most countries in Europe aren't real countries anymore. Thanks Tony.
Nothing wrong with a strong state, its when that state becomes corrupt, indifferent.
ahaha. Look at Mike Gapes' in the background. Pure adoration of Blair.
I like Tony Blair I really don’t get why people who don’t watch the videos
@pippipster6767
3 жыл бұрын
Punctuation.
@drofheim
3 жыл бұрын
Because he's a bare faced liar.
@AOK342
3 жыл бұрын
The Iraq war really destroyed this mans credibility which is shame because he got a lot right and in most issues he has proven to be a decent man.
You've got crisis all over the place due to unequal wealth distribution.
ACCOMPLICE Definition A person who knowingly, voluntarily, or intentionally gives assistance to another in (or in some cases fails to prevent another from) the commission of a crime. An accomplice is criminally liable to the same extent as the principal. An accomplice, unlike an accessory, is typically present when the crime is committed.
Can't believe he gave a shoutout to hong kong. but what did he wanna say to hong kongers?
Taxi, Stuttgart, German language, a polite conversation with the driver who then asks, 'you are not German though, where are you from?' to which I answer 'I'm English, and yourself?','I come from Iraq', to which straight away I find myself saying, 'Ich entschuldige mich für Blair', to which he responds 'that's ok' and then we get into the wider truth that politicians like Blair and Hussain are people who only serve themselves and can never truely represent anybody else. I thank you for that alone Tony darling.
A second referendum because the politicians have failed is not the answer ... If the politicians cannot sort it then they are not up to the job, We need a new election and get rid of any politician who's not supporting the democratic vote to leave the EU or not up to the job of creating a UK outside the EU ... Politicians are there to serve the people and the people have decided we want out ... Now get it sorted !!!
@roblloyd6082
5 жыл бұрын
William Marshal well said totally agree. The minute they appointed a remainer to be prime minister it was never going to go well.
“ Neoliberalism “
Duping delight is a particular expression a person will display that betrays sense of enjoyment they are getting out of controlling and deceiving another person ,often seen on the face of a psychopath. (just saying)
Listen to what he says about Ukraine… four years before the Russian invasion!
Why do they keep giving him airtime
Why do Irish Banks charge over 4% on a Standard rate mortgage, When out of 245,000 have the ability to change. Something is wrong shackels from the past,
Anyone that has hit 60 years old will be lucky to live healthily another 20 years before they die . Those 60 year olds lived a very diff life than the children living here today jobs were factories and pensions . Healthcare and funeral costs are the only worry for the 60 year olds living in poverty and suffering from austerity
I think that was a great introduction (and I’m a huge supporter of the positions of Blair and the Economist.) Don’t fawn, don’t waste time, just get to the point at hand.
@Thedarkknight2244
Жыл бұрын
Yep no one cares about the stuff that worked precisely because it worked.
I can understand what Tony Blair is saying about jobs but does he really believe that from my experience and my situation what I have been told about not being able to get jobs because of foreign people is true and I was not born in the uk
Blair minus the Iraq War was not such a bad leader. He understood how markets, risk-taking, the Pareto wealth effect, and the individual selfish gene conjointly worked in a constantly changing, adaptative and complex economic system in the absence of central planning from the authorities. However, the Inheritance Tax and Financial Deregulation accompanied by Financial Institutions led to Moral Hazard coupled with the Irrational Exuberance created a new type of Systemic Risk; and in addition to that, at the Macro level, the BOE Autonomy, and the public sector debt increases to do away with the Boom-Bust Cycle, that came about as a result of economic and social policies, of his poster boy Chancellor, left a bad taste behind. He in my opinion delivered the final blow to Socialism in the UK, on the one hand, by encouraging free enterprise to create wealth, economic inclusion, and social mobility, and on the other hand, rejecting the traditional left-leaning bias against the nanny socialist state style meddling and dabbling in matters which are completely falling within the domain of private life of an individual, was rejected. This admission of guilt, and reformation in the collectivist thought process, that public ownership of economic assets leads to public failure, was a significant paradigm shift that changed centre-left politics across the EU and beyond. His successor Brown was the main culprit who can be described as the architect of Financial Instability, Financial Speculation, and Figure Fudging in the British Economy. Also, the redistribution of wealth, in the form of welfare benefits, which masked the unemployment rate, under the Blair Brown Years, is still debated among economists. The Golden Rule of public borrowing to smoothen out the Business Cyclical Effects, introduced by Brown created massive growth in the money supply and this was mostly used by the financial institutions to increase risk-taking exposures by investing in a casino economy, where lottery-style financial pay off products such as the derivatives and their complex cousins the structured products, led to the damaging of the financial markets, the depositors, the households and the larger economy, in between 1998 and 2008. These casinos aka financial institutions were deregulated with no emphasis on the shaping of policy in light of either financial risk regulation or Macroprudential Advice coming from the FSA. Of course, what followed Northern Rock, was the nationalization of banks during the GFC.
@Clydesider711
Жыл бұрын
Yes. We had socialism for the banks.
Wow i didn’t know they gave him day release.
She’s somehow nervous 😬
Tony Blair is the Richard Branson of politics! Or, wait, is Richard Branson the Tony Blair of rock and roll?
List of Brexit benefits 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. Um...
@malthusXIII-fo3ep
Жыл бұрын
Still crying.
do better. at least give her training about where the cams at tho :/
When conflict of interests increases, you have to shift from liberalism to realism .
This is what happens when you get to much to soon. You can become power crazy.
@user-vo6gy4qq6j
5 жыл бұрын
*too
@DoneDunning
5 жыл бұрын
Appreciated, thank you.
All the issues that he talks about regarding the EU, were the same before we joined. The EU will never change.
Politicians and liberals elites are most stupid warmongers they will be defeated by new radiation of truth from the center of Galaxy this radiation exposes most evil people like master of worldwide subversions George Soros and other stupid globalists and liberals psychopaths of Gender agenda and LBGT fecal love agenda and other dehumanisation of the NWO.Macron was defeated by French people oposing to NWO agenda. Political party should be dissolved because they are antidemocratic and antihuman. China does not need political parties and still thrive the most.
Saying people 'have anxiety' about immigration makes it sound like a mental illness. Did Alistair write that one?
The Great 'Sir Tony Blair" Tory slayer. A title well deserved and long over due. The Greatest living British Statesman.
@kevinjackson6387
2 жыл бұрын
Are you on drugs
@grahamthebaronhesketh.
2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinjackson6387 I wish.
@jonnobloggs8642
Жыл бұрын
He also kept the Chamoagne Rwvolutionary faction of the Labour Party well and truly locked in its cage for 20 years .Top bloke .
Tony, you are not the leader of people kind. LOL.
Europe can be the fourth giant!!!!
If he is here defending liberalism why in the world is he in the Labour party and why doesn´t he join the Liberal Democrats?
Unexpected positive comment! I think he was fine. Realistically, ‘soft conservatism’ was the best move 97-2005. No idea why he went for Iraq though.
@MrGranfield
5 жыл бұрын
Peter's Perspective The reason Blair and the UK Parliament voted to join Bush and the US Government in invading Iraq was the flawed Intelligence supplied to Britain’s Joint Intelligence Committee (JIC) by the CIA that Iraq had WMD. Any PM faced with that Intelligence would have a difficult decision to make.
@MacJaxonManOfAction
5 жыл бұрын
@@MrGranfield Absolute garbage. The intelligence was phoney and Bliar knew it, precisely because he connived at the creation of it. The decision was made long before the intelligence was cooked up. Bliar was on a mission to destroy Saddam and the "intelligence" that missiles could reach the UK in 45 minutes was a laughable farrago of lies, damned lies and statistics. Which makes him a war criminal, by the way.
@helenrowley1886
4 жыл бұрын
@@MrGranfield Yes but first they had to suicide the British weapons inspector who spoke out and blew the whistle. And despite everything, despite how wrong it was; he would do it all again, he is like a messiah figure, he just knows everything and is just never wrong
@MrGranfield
4 жыл бұрын
@@helenrowley1886 The facts of the matter are that Blair was misinformed by the intelligence services particularly the CIA on the matter of WMD. As PM he had to take the erroneous intelligence at face value and reluctantly follow Bush into the conflict. Your comment "First they had to suicide the British weapons inspector". Is foolish.
@MrGranfield
4 жыл бұрын
@@MacJaxonManOfAction How do YOU know what Blair knew?
If liberalism in its current form is the answer we are all in serious trouble, the EU has been shown not to have the answers, liberalism not listening and forcing their agenda on everyone has caused a backlash and its well deserved
@user-tq7sw1jz6z
Жыл бұрын
Liberalism will force the agenda at any cost because it is totalitarian. Democracy in its current form is totalitarian as well. But, neighter fascism, nor communism aren't the right answer to liberalism. All the "-isms" are going to disapear from the world scene, beacause ther roots are set in the nihilistic ground.
@Isochest
9 ай бұрын
Yes it's monopolistic authoritarianism not liberalism
Has he learnt anything since he was a student? I remember them all from the NUS. Wasters.
@Nero-ox5tw
3 жыл бұрын
Blair was rubbing shoulders with Bush and won 3 general elections. If he's a waster then what are you?
England gave the young US a fantastic insight. Single currency and single language. If Europe can do that, they will instantly attain a very high standard of living . The animosity in the comments towards Tony Blair are a waste of time to give any consideration to. Immigrants should be incentivised to speak English and the rest of Europe should realize the profit of common currency. The English TEA should become a world wide phenomena where persons of other cultures are sought out to have tea with. Colored hats should be worn and the police should award lottery tickets to diverse Tea groups.
Is it liberal to shut down debate on EU membership calling those who oppose it racist?
Guys give him a break. At least listen to what he's saying here and analyse objectively. He's talking sense here.
@kevinjackson6387
2 жыл бұрын
Needs stringing up that’s what he needs ,he didn’t listen to the people when he sent all those troops to there deaths ,
@michaelburman2108
2 жыл бұрын
I agree. He talks so much sense
Lost me at 40 seconds, Iraq War was a highlight??
@leinsterfan1802
5 жыл бұрын
Partha Dey Ever heard of sarcasm?
o it what in for me
Ok tony blain is tony blair, but If you actually listen to him he makes a lot of sense here.
@martynfenton4862
5 жыл бұрын
Yes because he is a good actor. Talk does not equal action
@dreamer2260
2 жыл бұрын
Yep.
funny how he talks about issues like he had absolutely nothing to do with them
GREAT MASTER OF DRUIDS...
Tony Blair is a friend of the United States...and a hero. PERIOD
@VOTE4CHANGE
Жыл бұрын
You can have him
@jonnobloggs8642
Жыл бұрын
Commando Blair .The leftie slayer .
France is not the UK. And Macrunt is deeply unpopular
I agree with a lot of what he says, but have learnt to judge the man by his deeds and not his words.
@magnuswalker7957
5 жыл бұрын
And for his deeds he should be on trial
@dreamer2260
2 жыл бұрын
His government achieved great things for the country; it's been a catastrophic decline for a decade since the Tories got in.
Someone give her some fucking water
It’s all downhill from there in and the forty year olds have a turn in governance
45 minutes..
I once saw his portrait in a Hall, his lies followed you around the room.
What about freedom of letting war criminals to walk freely and be let on TV podium... And let him freely critisis current politicians... What a joke...
In 1983 at Bow St Magistrates Court a certain Charles Lynton was fined £50 for attempted soliciting in city toilets, the police notes were to disappear later along with several prior verbal warnings, Charles Lynton was at university well known as 'Miranda' a promiscuous cross dresser who played a guitar badly.
@johncharlesworth3770
Жыл бұрын
You're the first person to refer to this incident that I can find, I seem to recall he was found guilty twice, and couldn't even remember his own name. I think he made solicitor His wife was little better, she forgot to pay train fares, but commented that £1,500 was not a lot of reward to read court papers for a morning.
@malthusXIII-fo3ep
Жыл бұрын
It's not mentioned on his wikipedia entry....airbrushed out?
@malthusXIII-fo3ep
Жыл бұрын
Were there ever any fellow students who went to the press about it?
Amazing interviewer
Yay for Tony Blair.
Live personality
Approximately 20 years left for majority of 60 years old men and women and quality of life as dementia is going to be up
How was Trump washed in to this conversation Mr B??
N E O L I B E R A L
Owen Jones won't engage with me on politics.
6:30
war criminals words carry no weight
Wow these questions were excellent.