Thanks, mate, I am a bit behind the times but being frustrated with my TT550 I had a look on YT and found your video, Thank You, you explained everything perfectly and the demos were spot on, If I understood then everyone will Cheers.

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

5 ай бұрын

That’s great. I was the same initially and found it very limited until I sussed it out. Cheers .

What I really needed was to learn how to define and change my route in the Tomtom. I guess I'll have to continue searching.

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

2 ай бұрын

Use a planning app such as MyRouteApp. Set the map to Tom Tom and then use as many waypoints as you like to define every road you want to ride on without deviation. The Tom Tom MyDrive is a bit too clunky I find.

Great info Terry, I’ve struggled with the Rider 550 blindly following tracks I’d sent across and not always hitting the way points I wanted, now I know I can transfer routes and actually ride the exact roads I want to ride. Thank you for taking the time with this. I was close to selling the rider 550.

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

4 жыл бұрын

Lee Forrest - me too, I was getting frustrated with tracks only and I couldn’t believe I didn’t have waypoints, glad it helped.

@sirirachrichardson8199

2 жыл бұрын

MOVE Tom yom to Samsung's SD card game of course '

Best explanation I've seen. Thanks!! I was about to sledgehammer the TomTom after being sent round and round in circles more times than. I care to remember. Even now, it still does weird stuff, like wanting to send me off through small towns instead of staying on route. Defeats the point if you have to know the roads well enough to override the navigator. But will persevere! Cheers for the video!

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

10 ай бұрын

Glad it helped! Yes, it can do the silliest of thins sometimes like take you off the motorway exit to rejoin at the entrance? You fell a bit daft when someone is following your lead :-0

Just found your video. Great explanation. I could never understand why my tomtom often didn't seem to follow a route properly from a track exported from MyRouteApp, and would miss waypoints. Now it is all clear. A bit of a faff compared to exporting a track, but well worth it. Very helpful. Thanks.

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

Жыл бұрын

Glad it helped. I made this because I was similarly confused and found it quite frustrating, “where are my waypoints“!

expertly explained as ever Terry, have never really mastered the myroute app and the whole route/track thing has caught me out a few times. I run a garmin but very similar to the tomtom, so all and any tutorials always welcome...chrs mate🙏☘️

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

4 жыл бұрын

John Fitzsimons - good stuff John. Got to do something with my time. The Garmin does actually keep the waypoints and does it this way. 👍

Thanks Terry, after struggling for years I have finally got it!

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

Жыл бұрын

Brilliant :-)

Just bought one for my z1000 sx so great timing and really helpful thanks Terry

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

4 жыл бұрын

great, glad it helped. I wasn't sure it supported the .itn file format seeing as Tom Tom don't use it on their own MyDrive, delighted it does.

best explanation of tracks and routes I have seen ,solved a lot of queries I had thank you.

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

4 жыл бұрын

Bob Whittaker - great, glad it helped Bob

@bobwhittaker4433

4 жыл бұрын

@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff my default location is the old Tyre app, which I dont, have anymore ,how do I change the default location? also I cant see my 550 on the PC so cant copy too the SD card.what am I missing.

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

4 жыл бұрын

Bob Whittaker - when you plug the 550 into the PC nothing happens until you hit the import button on the Sat Nav. Then it should come up on the PC. It doesn’t matter where your default download location is for your file, you just go to that location and move or copy it to the Sat Nav SD card once it connects. Good luck!

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

4 жыл бұрын

Bob Whittaker - I should of also said the default download location is set by your browser and it is usually to a dedicated download folder. Your browser will tell you when the file is downloaded and will give you the option to open that download file location.

@bobwhittaker4433

4 жыл бұрын

@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff Thanks Terry you have been very helpful ,I was having a problem opening the card on the 550 , I tried three different cards before i could D/L to it ,many thanks.

Thanks! I´m especting mine just after Christmas.

thank you! i ve' been looking for that type of advices for a very long time !

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

4 жыл бұрын

me to, I was getting really confused myself and decided I wanted to undderstand it better.

All great Terry. I also use MyRouteApp but if you plan a route and want TT to stick to it and not find its own way you have to save it as a track but you will loose any stops/waypoints saved so I'm now having to split my routes between cafe, fuel and lunch stops so TT knows when and where I've planned to stop. Also not very pleased with having to import/use TT's My Drive in order to transfer routes over via WiFi. Fingers crossed the new MyRoute Navigation App will address these points.

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

2 жыл бұрын

If you add enough waypoints and match the settings from myrouteapp and Tom Tom, e.g. avoid motorway etc, you can keep your waypoints and the route will vary little when saving as an ITN file and manually importing to the Sat Nav. The Expand feature helps out with that. I have the Nav app on my phone, it is very good and replaces my Sygic which got very laggy with voice commands. The phone is not as reliable though so I only use it for day out stuff, I got the Tom Tom after the phone kept shutting down on hot days. You can set MyDrive to automatically synchronise the track to the Tom Tom so when saved in MyRouteApp it appears on the Sat Nav next time it gets a connection. I haven't opened MyDrive in donkeys. I have found both Sat Nav and Phone to be inflexible at times and I always have stops or destinations I know I want to make a favourite so at any stage on a track I can just say, "sod it, take me to xxx!" Good luck with MRA Nav, it is very good.

Thanks for the video, today I tried to follow what I thought was a route, it turns out it was a track, my track stopped navigating when I passed one of the points which was also the finish point. I also find that when using a route, if you don’t pass pass a waypoint exactly, you will keep getting routed back to that waypoint.

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, you have to keep an eye on that. This can happen a lot if you do not take great care to make sure your way point is definitively on the road and passable by you and not 10m off in a farmers field. If it happens just stop, cancel the route, re-select it and tap on the next waypoint of the journey. Then on the Sat Nav, and choose "start route from here".

Terrific, Terry. Thank you.

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

2 жыл бұрын

No problem 👍

Thanks for that, I never really understood it before.

Great info! Thanks for sharing.

very informative video, thanks for posting it.

Great video. Always had a Garmin now got a TomTom and frustrated with the loss of way points. Good to see a video explaining.. however I do feel the Garmin does the gpx import much better and easier to use. Why would you ever use a track? Maybe off road? But for touring etc you need way points as you always come across a blocked road etc. 👍

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

4 жыл бұрын

Darrel Halfyard - agree completely, blocked roads are a tracks downfall.

@antmensah242

2 жыл бұрын

So what is point of tracking? It seems to over complicate the basic navigation. Surely the whole point of a motorcycle sat nav unit is to be able to plan a route via waypoints

One small trap I found is that you don't format the SD card using the TomTom as it makes it extra storage for maps etc and you can't copy routes onto it. Just format it in your pc using FAT32 option.

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers for the heads up👍

Thanks!

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

Жыл бұрын

too kind sir!

Hi Terry, nice work with that video. I've watched some off your stuff, some nice content. I am currently playing about with the tom tom 500, routes vs tracks. Here's my question, if I'm on a track and deviate from it for whatever reason, will it try and get me back to where I should be or just go into sat nav melt down ? Hope you can help, Cheers, Andy.

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

2 жыл бұрын

It does try but I often find it doesn’t go about it very intelligently. If you are unsure of the area you can also find yourself picking up on the route and going backwards. If I get forced too much off a track I tend to cancel the track completely and restart. When it asks if you want to go to the start or nearest point chose nearest point(of course) and you get started again in the right direction. Cheers Andy 👍

I downloaded a route, drove 1,5 hours to get to and start that route. Then after starting the route there where closed off roads. I could not avoid that closed road and go to the next waypoint. It would just keep sending me back to the closed road no matter how i tried to drive around the closed road. Drove me crazy.

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

10 ай бұрын

Do you mean “track”? When riding a route and you get a blockage you can tell the sat nav that and it will reroute. On a “track” it can tie itself in knots trying to get back to the line and often take you all over the place.

Hi Terry, I have found your info on the Tomtom invaluable, thankyou. I have a question for you. Is it possible to modify a route in the unit on the move. I was doing an event over the weekend and when I stopped for the night my unit shut down. The next day when it turned on it went back to the being of the ride. I was 1500km into the ride when this happened and I could not find a way to get rid of the WP I didn't want to return to. I switched over to track in the end but it was not as good as the route as I was missing the WP's I still had to visit. Any suggestions? Cheers Michael

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Michael. Open up the route again, tap on the next waypoint in your journey, tap the three little dots and choose "start route from here". It will then plot a route to that waypoint, once it gets there it will carry on with the rest of your route.

Terry, every now and then I keep going back to your Routes vs Tracks piece, I prefer Routes as it has flexibility that I like... however after five years with a Rider V i have switched to the TT550 and annoyingly when reaching every waypoint the 55 announces "you have reached your destination'" as well the info banner on the top of the screen shows the distance to the next waypoint not necessarily the next junction as before. Any ideas ? David

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

Жыл бұрын

I know what you mean David. I will have to have a play and check that out. Nothing immediately springs to mind but I will see if I can do anything about that on mine.

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

Жыл бұрын

David, I created a 150km route today on the PC using MyRouteApp with about 10 waypoints, saved it as an .itn file and imported to the TT550. It acted normally with a total distance/time left at every stage and never announced a waypoint arrival. How are you getting your route to the TT550?

Thank you for this Terry! I was about to throw this thing in the creek last weekend when I entered a route but it put me on a track and I didn’t know the difference. I think it’s a good piece of equipment, but wow the Tom Tom instruction book tells you absolutely nothing. Very bad customer support IMO. Do I need an SD card or can I load a route onto the device’s drive from my PC? Again thanks for this.

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

2 жыл бұрын

You don’t need an SD card but I think it is a very good idea as it stops you accidentally overwriting the main system files. A small 8GB unit (or as small as you can get) would do for $2. Glad you found it useful.

Thank you Sir. Have a beer on me.🍺

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

Жыл бұрын

Ooh, I think I can manage that 😁.

Thanks for the video! You described transfering gpx tracks from a PC to the Tom Tom. Do you know if the file transfer will also work from a Mac? I was looking at getting a Garmin XT, but this was a limit with the XT--it could only transfer files when using an unsupported third-party "Android File Transfer" app. Thanks!

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

Жыл бұрын

The Tom Tom is seen by windows as a normal storage device. I don't use Mac but I cannot imagine the Mac OS doesn't see the Tom Tom in the same vein. But, if it doesn't you can just use the SD card in the MAC and transfer the file, no need to connect the Tom Tom.

Hi Terry, I have the older 410. It's the same with that. I wish TomTom would change it somehow so we could choose what we wanted when it imported.

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

3 жыл бұрын

it would of been much handier I will say.

@MotorbikeHamster

3 жыл бұрын

@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff Hi Terry. I found last night the when creating a route in my drive Web. There is an option to 'send stops', this will send the route and stops to the tom-tom where then you can save the route. Hope this helps

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

3 жыл бұрын

@@MotorbikeHamster excellent, well spotted. Does it give you real waypoints?

@MotorbikeHamster

3 жыл бұрын

@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff yes it does. The route however is determined by the TomTom satnav. So clever stop placement will be required. Then a quick save to my routes. When my 550 arrives I'll give it a better try

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

3 жыл бұрын

@@MotorbikeHamster Excellent 👍

with the old web planner you could send up to 21 stops wirelessly and thus obtain a route! now with the new web planner I can no longer find this option...

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

6 ай бұрын

I have never seen this and pretty sure that functionality is not there now. I can create tracks and download wirelessly but .itn routes with waypoints have to be transferred and imported via a PC, or written to a memory card. Shame, your way would be handy. 👍

@ninoaiello

6 ай бұрын

@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff I also found the function in the new TOMTOM web planner, I can guarantee you that it is possible to send stops for up to 21 Waypoints and TOMTOM will create the route as if it were an .ITN file, too bad you can't put a screenshot here... I had made a video for a friend about it, I'll leave it to you! from minute 4:40 you can see how to do it! kzread.info/dash/bejne/pG1q0LWDXdeTnLA.htmlsi=LF2dwXfVwkYjkJjJ

Thanks for the info Terry, was about to throw it in the lake. Had sat navs for years, but this is my first tom tom. One thing I have noticed, is the route times on tom tom are usually 30 mins to an hour longer than my Garmin. I guess thats down to a combination of difference in maps and unit parameters ?

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

7 ай бұрын

When you set a route in something like MyRouteApp you can switch between the Tom Tom or Garmin map (with the GOLD subscription) and it does pickup where the two different maps choose slightly different routes. But I have found these are normally fairly close in terms of time. I wonder is the Garmin picking up live traffic and the Tom Tom isn't? My Tom Tom, by default, cannot pickup traffic unless I create a wireless hotspot with my phone which allows the Tom Tom to update with live traffic data and possibly shortening the time based on better information? Just a thought?

@billh5850

7 ай бұрын

@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff Yes, have had Myrouteapp for a long time now. In probably 99% of routes, the tomtom shows route times 30 mins to an hour slower than the Garmin and Myroute app. I have tried a direct download from myrouteapp, using their connect program, downloaded as a track, pretty much every way you can put the route into the tomtom, no change, its still shows route times a lot slower than Garmin. I can only presume that there is something in the programming of the tom tom which makes this happen. I have used Garmin, for over 15 years now and its always been close on route times, why I swapped, I will never know. I just don't trust the tom tom in the same way, as I trust my Garmin. Maybe our tour to the Cotswolds will sort this, as I will use the tomtom for that trip and see what happens. If you see a 550 on ebay in May, you will know who's it is. Cheers Terry.

@john-wq8kf

6 ай бұрын

Terry do you have any probs linking to your phone, in my case an iPhone 12

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

6 ай бұрын

@@john-wq8kf Hi John. I actually stopped linking my Tom Tom with the phone as I felt the functionality was unwarranted. I used to use my Cardo connected which worked just fine. Now I connect nothing and just use the visual directions. The spoken directions tended to override cardo comms, especially in town which was quite annoying if you were with others or a pillion. In the earlier days with an iPhone 6 (or 8) I think it was the 550 would receive texts, show callers and all sorts whn the phone was connected. Not long after Apple closed down a lot of the functionality over Bluetooth for security reasons and the functionality disappeared overnight. So the only way I would use my iPhone would be to create a local wireless hotspot on the iPhone 13 I have which will pass traffic data and provides access to new tracks via Tom Tom MyDrive. BUT - I am having difficulty with this. I find I am not getting an IP address from the hotspot to the Tom Tom. More investigation needed. I almost guarantee it is an Apple thing!

Are there any apps that convert GPX files to ITN for free? Mydrive app doesnt seem to have the conversion from GPX to ITN, which is absurd.

@yamum9607

4 жыл бұрын

I think google is your friend on that one, you would have to think there is one out there somewhere. My version of MyRouteApp is a paid for version so I have never looked elsewhere, sorry. Try searching ITN-Converter.

@FilipeCR

4 жыл бұрын

I use the website kurviger.de (also in english). you can import a gpx and export to itn

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

4 жыл бұрын

www.benichou-software.com

Hi Terry. I am thinking of buying a Tomtom 550, but after reading a lot of articles about the tomtom, is there an issue with connecting to Iphone and Sena headset. Is there an easy way to connect that works.

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

3 жыл бұрын

There is a problem connecting to the iPhone but it is not Tom Tom’s fault. It used to work then Apple changed their Bluetooth security functionality on the later OS. It is not just affecting Tom Tom devices. The cynic in me tells me it is something Apple are doing to keep connectivity proprietary. A workaround to get live data, e.g. Traffic, is to connect wirelessly to your iPhones wireless hotspot. Data usage is minimal so you shouldn’t run up a data bill.

@karlharrison7378

3 жыл бұрын

@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff Thanks again Terry. I might go for the Garmi Zumo XT instead, which gets good reviews

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

3 жыл бұрын

@@karlharrison7378 It does get good reviews Karl, my buddy has one and it does deal with waypoints a little easier than my Tom Tom.

I think I have just found this video in time. I am going to purchase either the Garmin Zumo 396 or Tom Tom Rider 550 next week. The problem I need to solve is that members of the club will email me a GPX file, that route will have to be followed exactly by the riders. There will be way points and often at least one stop. Is there a way to to import the GPX file and then use it as either a Route or a Track which the sat nav will not deviate from? If I understand correctly from your video, If I use tracks then it will not re-route me if on the day of the ride there is a diversion? Could I switch to route at that point until I am back on the track and then switch back to track to continue following the track exactly? Sorry if this seems long winded.

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

2 ай бұрын

Switching between the two en-route will be tricky and is not really practical. The changes experienced by users of a route are due to 1) different map sources when used in the panning of that route. This is why planning apps like MyRouteApp have a comparison feature between Garmin and Tom Tom planned routes which highlights these differences. Placing more waypoints at these variations brings them together so both users have the same route/track. So without such care a route planner can generate a GPX file route OR track which will can be different for multiple users, e.g. Tom Tom, Garmin, Harley Nav system etc. 2) Also, the planner needs to tell the users what preferences they set when planning, e.g. avoid motorways, avoid tolls etc. A difference in these settings between the planning software and the actual Sat Nav device will lead to discrepancies. One could take a motorway between waypoints and the other avoids motorways. If a way is blocked the track can have difficulty as it will just try and get you back to the track, this could be problematic and you need a sense of your direction about you to know to run on a few miles rather than doggedly follow the Sat Navs suggestion to get back on track. Being able to zoom in and out of the map on the Sat Nav helps tremendously in this regard. In summary, different Sat Nav users will see different routes and tracks unless the planner has taken great care to compare the two and adjust for the differences. Not an answer you probably wanted, there are variables out of your control and you are at the mercy of the person that planned the route/track.

@ianskeldon6032

2 ай бұрын

@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff Thank you for your prompt and detailed reply. I guess I need to view the received GPX file in my old garmin using base camp and then re-do the route in whichever software I am using for whichever sat nav I decide to go with. Once again many thanks for sharing your time and knowledge with everyone.

Hello. please help me find and download POI objects for this navigator. I also noticed that not all roads are on the navigator maps.

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

Жыл бұрын

If not all toll roads are on the maps that's up to Tom Tom of course. Hopefully they pick them up on any map updates, they can lag a fair bit. You can use POI lists from any supplier, they are all over the web. See instructions for loading them here download.tomtom.com/open/manuals/Rider_Wi-Fi/html/en-gb/index.htm#ImportingacommunityPOIlist-MyDrive-CONNECTED.htm

Great explanation. Thank you. Is there a way to export a route? (not track)

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I use MyRouteApp and you can save as an ITN file which retains the way points. You have to transfer via a PC to an SD card and import into the Tom Tom. When I create a journey now I save in both formats so I have a route and a track.

Hi Terry, hope you can shed some light on this, wired my rider 550 into bike, paired to my freedconn helmet via bluetooth, planned a route, pressed the lets go, she announced my time of arrival so thought all is ok, but then fell silent? no voice directions atall! the route showed on screen, but no voice atal, driving me nuts now! tried everything including all settings, volume etc, to no avail. Any ideas would help please if possible. Thanks. Tony

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

3 жыл бұрын

Check out the settings. Voice instructions on the Sat Nav and Navigation voice instructions are two different things I think. Go to the "quick settings" from the home screen, it is a little dotted icon top left of screen, and make sure voice instructions icon does not have a line through it, I bet it does. The icon to the left is the general system speaker, I bet that doesn't have a line through it and that is why you can hear the arrival time. That is my guess, other than that do you have a phone connected too? I find having a phone, Sat Nav and Headset all connected pretty flaky and I gave up on that a good while back. Go to the Tom Tom website for the user manual for advice on how to connect three devices, there are specific recommendations on which way to do it for best results.

Just caught this video and thanks for the explanation. Been looking for something like this for a while. If I use the MYDRIVE to design my route and I use the export over wi-fi and a feature in MYDRIVE called 'Send Destinations' does that send a route or a track and what does the 'send destinations' actually do? Many thanks just subscribed to see what else I can learn about my Tom Tom Rider 550.

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think it works quite like that. When you are in a route design in MyDrive you have probably seen the option switch "Synch this route as a track with my devices" which does send the track automatically. If you are sending a destination you are just sending a single point. You can build up often used destinations using the My Places tab and creating favourites in MyDrive (but not in MyRouteApp)

@Omsracer1

3 жыл бұрын

@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff Does this transfer method only work for android as when I plug my 550 into my Macbook computer it does not come up as a media device like yours. Therefore I cannot transfer my files from my computer to the SD card as it is not seen by my Macbook. When I say import, it refers to TomTom Rider 550 Internal Storage 'TomTom container storage' and you cannot reference the SD card. I think when you format the SD card it prevents this transfer. Might be more of a computer question rather than a TomTom question but I have been trying for several hours now to perform the transfer from my computer of a route to my 550 and cannot get past this point. Any guidance would be much appreciated. Regards Peter

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

3 жыл бұрын

@@Omsracer1 - sorry Peter, I’m not a Mac guy but you can just plug the SD card into the Mac separate from the Tom Tom. As long as it sees that as regular storage you can transfer the file to that and plug it back into the Sat Nav. Connect back to the Mac to instigate the import routine. See if that works for you.

@Omsracer1

3 жыл бұрын

@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff hello Terry that is exactly what I did on an old Windows PC and it worked a treat. Thanks once again for your help. I now understand the difference between tracks and routes. Why doesn't TomTom use routes and not tracks?

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

3 жыл бұрын

@@Omsracer1 I have no idea, strange isn’t it?

What if you mis a waypoint?, does it sent you back to the latest waypoint, or to the next one?

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

3 жыл бұрын

It doesn't handle missed waypoints as well as Garmin I will say. I have tied myself up on the odd occasion. If this happens you can close the route and reselect it then opt to start navigating from a particular waypoint.

@christophermellor9236

2 жыл бұрын

it routes to the missed waypoint and you can either restart the route (starting at the reqquired next waypoint) OR you can "Skip Waypoint" - this works fine for 1 or two when following your own route but if you are on a route that someone else has provided and you have many waypoints to skip (maybe they are poorly placed for example) it's not really viable.

Hi Terry: Is the Tom Tom 500 the same as the 550? to do this?

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

3 жыл бұрын

It is. It is just the maps that are different. One is Europe only and the other is the World, otherwise the units are the same.

@gerryrooney4862

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Terry

Is the tomtom 550?

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff

3 жыл бұрын

Yes