To copy from another is plagiarism. To copy from more than one is research. (From the old academic jokes home)

@clanso7887

3 жыл бұрын

Where did you research this quote from?;)

@yumyummoany

3 жыл бұрын

@@clanso7887 It is a very old, and true, saying.

@clanso7887

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed :)

@tealc6218

2 жыл бұрын

It is ok if I use it? and call it my own....;)

@yumyummoany

2 жыл бұрын

@@tealc6218 Go ahead my friend!

I am AMAZED he was a mathematician/scientist by day, and an entertaining satirist by night. What talent!!

@alexeicogan4733

4 жыл бұрын

And, when he wasn't in public, teaching in class on weekdays, he went out for walks on weekends, poisoning pigeons in the park.

@shoenicedeletedvideosx3048

2 жыл бұрын

He still is alive... 5/1/2022

@Revan058

7 ай бұрын

He's still kicking as of 10/13/2023.

@chrissullivan5752

5 ай бұрын

I found him in my parents album collection. Incredible hard on 4:20

A song that never stops being topical.

Pianist, satirist, mathematician. This man was beyond brilliant. Correction: This man IS beyond brilliant.

@Jack-mm4cb

11 ай бұрын

Is*

@janmiller2929

5 ай бұрын

You forgot to mention: plagiarist!

@sleuthman

Ай бұрын

Not was... he turned 96 today (April 9, 2024)

@elliotskydel875

Ай бұрын

He's still alive!!

"I spoke no Russian (and still speak none), and it was Munro Edmonson who taught me (phonetically) the Russian phrase I used in 'Lobachevsky' regarding going where even the Tsar goes on foot. The first phrase was the first line of Mussorgsky's Song of the Flea, with which I was already familiar and which Ed taught me how to pronounce. It means 'once there was a king who had a pet flea.' The second says 'now I go where even the Tsar goes on foot.' A reference... to the bathroom." --Tom Lehrer

@chloepainter4064

Жыл бұрын

and it works in context because the bathroom does stink!

$3000 is about $26,000 in 2019 money. I guess teachers have always been underpaid

@hank1519

5 жыл бұрын

Yep!

@seancreppel6833

4 жыл бұрын

Not just a teacher but a professor at Harvard

@marcgrundfest1495

4 жыл бұрын

Duh

@user-pq5ux6ip4i

3 жыл бұрын

Urgh, are y'all serious? If teachers in my country got $26000 (~2 million rubles) a year this would be a huge improvement.

@SalahEddineH

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-pq5ux6ip4i EXACTLY! To us too, in Morocco, $26000 a year is like double what a teacher can possibly make. A veteran teacher makes about $12000, at the end of his career, here.

Lobachevsky been real quiet since this dropped

@mnm1273

2 жыл бұрын

He's waiting for someone to response to similar criticism.

@rabbi120348

Ай бұрын

Lobachevsky died in 1856 and hasn't published anything since then.

@loquens5060

Ай бұрын

@@rabbi120348 diss so vicious it reached back in time and killed Lobachevsky

He taught a class called “the nature of mathematics “ for non math majors. Bet that class would have been awesome.

@sakar181

8 ай бұрын

Gods that would have been amazing.

@nfo1776

7 ай бұрын

Such a shame it wasn't recorded.

Nine people don't understand analytic and algebraic topology of locally Euclidean parameterization of infinitely differentiable Riemannian manifolds.

@allenbooth7033

7 жыл бұрын

Borzhamoi!

@ymirssons

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe someone should write a book about it.

@MagicBoterham

5 жыл бұрын

He was talking about analytic and algebraic topology of locally Euclidean metrization of infinitely differentiable Riemannian manifolds, not parametrization, Боже мой!

@hank1519

5 жыл бұрын

> nine people 😀

@RabbiHerschel

4 жыл бұрын

Fifty-one people in Dnepropetrovsk found out that someone else published first.

It would be a perfect plan to stea-to adapt this song and preceding routine at local comedy gigs. Those who don't know Tom Lehrer would find it funny, and those who do would see the comic value in plagiarising a routine about plagiarism.

@DeyaViews

7 жыл бұрын

The best kind of meta.

@adamkirsteins5646

7 жыл бұрын

Thats the best idea I've had all day.

@SingularCherubim

6 жыл бұрын

You realize, of course, that this is exactly what Lehrer himself did? Of course you do. Circular references are the best kind of references.

@feartheghus

5 жыл бұрын

Beautiful

@lynneufeld3175

3 жыл бұрын

@@DeyaViews what is meta? TIA

I've listened to "Lobachevsky" many, many times, yet this is the first time I noticed Lehrer saying, "And I thought it would be interesting to ste-- er, to adapt this idea to the field of mathematics."

I was studying Russian at UCSC when he was a professor of mathematics there. I had no idea. He was not known there beyond mathematics.

@MEpianist "жил-был король когда-то, при нём блоха жила" - "there once was a king; a flea lived with him" (a song) "я иду куда сам царь идёт пешком" - "I'm going [to the place] where czar himself walks to" (toilet)

I dont care if Lobachevsky has been vindicated of plagiarism. Its still a great song.

@daniiladamov8761

9 жыл бұрын

Rob Hoffman I'm unaware that he was ever accused of it, really. It is indeed a great song.

@CreeperOnYourHouse

9 жыл бұрын

Rob Hoffman It's not plagiarism, it's _research_.

@VRichardsn

8 жыл бұрын

+Rob Hoffman According to Lehrer, he chose Lobachevsky just for artistic reasons.

@Tivaarg

8 жыл бұрын

+Rob Hoffman Lobachevsky was never accused of plagiarism, the name just gives a nice ring to the song

@feartheghus

5 жыл бұрын

Tom Lehrer apparently chose the name lobachevsky simply for how it sounded and worked with the song, and specifically said that the song was not meant to harm lobachevsky’s reputation or accuse him of plagiarism.

I plagiarized the lyrics: For many years now, Mr. Danny Kaye, who has been my particular idol since childbirth, has been doing a routine about the great Russian director Stanislavsky and the secret of success in the acting profession. And I thought it would be interesting to st... to adapt this idea to the field of mathematics. I always like to make explicit the fact that before I went off not too long ago to fight in the trenches, I was a mathematician by profession. I don't like people to get the idea that I have to do this for a living. I mean, it isn't as though I had to do this, you know, I could be making, oh, 3000 dollars a year just teaching. Be that as it may, some of you may have had occasion to run into mathematicians and to wonder therefore how they got that way, and here, in partial explanation perhaps, is the story of the great Russian mathematician Nicolai Ivanovich Lobachevsky.* Who made me the genius I am today, The mathematician that others all quote? Who's the professor that made me that way, The greatest that ever got chalk on his coat? One man deserves the credit, One man deserves the blame, and Nicolai Ivanovich Lobachevsky is his name. Oy! Nicolai Ivanovich Lobache... I am never forget the day I first meet the great Lobachevsky. In one word he told me secret of success in mathematics: Plagiarize! Plagiarize, Let no one else's work evade your eyes, Remember why the good Lord made your eyes, So don't shade your eyes, But plagiarize, plagiarize, plagiarize... Only be sure always to call it please, "research". And ever since I meet this man my life is not the same, And Nicolai Ivanovich Lobachevsky is his name. Oy! Nicolai Ivanovich Lobache... I am never forget the day I am given first original paper to write. It was on Analytic and Algebraic Topology of Locally Euclidean Metrization of Infinitely Differentiable Riemannian Manifold. Bozhe moi! This I know from nothing.** But I think of great Lobachevsky and I get idea - haha! I have a friend in Minsk, Who has a friend in Pinsk, Whose friend in Omsk Has friend in Tomsk With friend in Akmolinsk. His friend in Alexandrovsk Has friend in Petropavlovsk, Whose friend somehow Is solving now The problem in Dnepropetrovsk. And when his work is done - Haha! - begins the fun. From Dnepropetrovsk To Petropavlovsk, By way of Iliysk, And Novorossiysk, To Alexandrovsk to Akmolinsk To Tomsk to Omsk To Pinsk to Minsk To me the news will run, Yes, to me the news will run! And then I write By morning, night, And afternoon, And pretty soon My name in Dnepropetrovsk is cursed, When he finds out I published first! And who made me a big success And brought me wealth and fame? Nicolai Ivanovich Lobachevsky is his name. Oy! Nicolai Ivanovich Lobache... I am never forget the day my first book is published. Every chapter I stole from somewhere else. Index I copy from old Vladivostok telephone directory. This book, this book was sensational!*** Pravda - ah, Pravda - Pravda said: "Jeel beel kara ogoday blyum blocha jeli, " ("It stinks"). But Izvestia! Izvestia said: "Jai, do gudoo sun sai pere shcum, " ("It stinks"). Metro-Goldwyn-Moskva bought the movie rights for six million rubles, Changing title to 'The Eternal Triangle', With Brigitte Bardot playing part of hypotenuse.**** And who deserves the credit? And who deserves the blame? Nicolai Ivanovich Lobachevsky is his name. Oy!

such a damn catchy tune.

@barbaraannmahoney4170

7 жыл бұрын

Courtesy of Kurt Weill from Lady In The Dark (1941), a Broadway musical that featured the heroine undergoing psychiatric treatment.

When he said "hhhhhypotenuse!" I lost it.

"Who has been my particular idol since childbirth" I'll have to remember that one

Tom Lehrer was able to predict the means by which Claudine Gay became President of Harvard.

@captainloggy140

2 ай бұрын

She remembered why the good Lord made her eyes!

i love 'research'

@SlashCrash_Studios

6 жыл бұрын

achillesRising, the Knight of Rage hey AR, I'm lepiosDarkness, the Bard of Light

@ashie.official

5 жыл бұрын

crash periodic mage of mind!!

Am I the only one around here, whom: "...a friend in Minsk who has a friend in Pinsk whose friend in Omsk has friend in Tomsk with friend in Akmolinsk and his friend in Alexandrovsk has friend in Petropavlosk and his friend somehow is solving now the problem in Dnepropetrovsk..." makes think of Erdos number?

@joedempseysr.3376

4 жыл бұрын

Evidently.

@miarencrowsdaughter6434

4 жыл бұрын

I cannot unthink this now.

@ulrikschackmeyer848

4 жыл бұрын

0

@mch979

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly...Erdös number of 6 or so.

That Plagiarism verse is so good!: Plagorise, let no one elses work evade your eyes, Remember why the good lord made your eyes, so don't shade your eyes, but Plagorise Plagorise Plagorise

@theq4602

9 жыл бұрын

Oddly enough people think he wrote the tune to the element song (NOPE ITS A PARODY).

@stephendonovan9084

8 жыл бұрын

+stephen bredin *Plagiarize. Sorry, don't kill me please.

@balok63a40

8 ай бұрын

@@theq4602 Since he says in the intro that it's a "possibly recognizable tune," i.e. he starts out by saying that he didn't write the music, one has to wonder who these "people" are.

Комик, сатирик, музыкант и математик - гений!

2:24 when you assign all of your operatives to building an intel network in the Soviet Union

It's great how he came up with so many great phrases that rhyme plagiarize

@MultiGeraghty Wikipedia says he taught his last maths class in 2001, on the topic of infinity, and retired. He has remained in the area, and still "hangs out" around the University of California

Wonderful. Just wonderful.

.... one of the funniest and most original creative geniuses we've had the pleasure of hearing in our lifetimes!

"...analytic and algebraic topology of locally euclidean metrization of infinite differential for riemannian manifold BOZHE MOJ!" xD that guy is awesome

@georgetirebiter4035

4 жыл бұрын

BOZHE MOJ translates to MY GOD.

Love the way he brings musical themes into it. Doubles the fun! HEY! lol

@feartheghus

5 жыл бұрын

Well seeing as the music starts before the lyrics, I’d say it doesn’t double the fun, it begins the fun.

@space__idklmao

6 ай бұрын

the Liszt tho

This is going to be in my head forever.

@MrEclecticity

3 жыл бұрын

It's been in mine for more than sixty years. Once heard, Tom Lehrer songs are not easily forgotten.

My college rommate nearly drove me crazy singing this song!

"With Bridget Bardot playing part of KKKKKKKKKKHYpotenuse."

@NickiRusin

8 жыл бұрын

Yuuichi Productions Is that intentional?

@stephenwoods4118

8 жыл бұрын

+Nick Nirus Yes, the letter H in the Cyrillic alphabet is pronounced like a cross between X and H, He is just slightly exaggerating.

@NickiRusin

8 жыл бұрын

Stephen Woods Hm, yeah, that does sound like a Russian H.

@DieFlabbergast

8 жыл бұрын

+Stephen Woods No, there is no letter "H" in the Cyrillic alphabet. The sound Lehrer makes here is "X," which is pronounced like the "ch" in the Scots "loch" or in the German Bach or the Iranian Komeini. That's the closest Russian sound to our "h" (and is what Russians often use instead of an "h" when speaking English) but it definitely ISN'T an "h".

@Soabky

6 жыл бұрын

DieFlabbergast I’m pretty sure he was saying that the sound was the equivalent to “h,” as he acknowledged the different alphabet.

@producer111 Lehrer stated that the song is no slight against Lobachevsky and his name was chosen only because it fit well into the song

So in real life did Tom Lehrer ever write a research paper on a analytic and algebraeic topology of locally Euclidean metrization of infinitely differentiable Reimannian manifold?

@tabithavanderpool418

2 жыл бұрын

This comment deserves more than one like

@arcadew6381

2 жыл бұрын

Bozhe moi!

@adrianashilling2573

3 ай бұрын

I don’t know but he was considered a math genius. Started his studies at Harvard at age 14.

He doesn't, this song is merely a joke. The reason it is funny is that Lobachevskys greatest achievement was also (independently) discovered by other mathematicians at the same time. Lehrer merely picked Lobachevsky's name because it fit the song well.

Dnepropetrovsk loves Tom ^^

It wasn't meant to call Lobachevsky a plagiarist, the name was chosen for comedic effect. In other words, he used it because it flowed right, not to slander the mathematician.

@scpmr

4 жыл бұрын

Oh yes. It's like "I say to everyone that you are a liar but I don't mean that you a liar". Many people after listening to that song believed it.

Somehow this song became the namesake of my pet rabbit.

@jmz1736

4 жыл бұрын

Give nicholi Ivanovic loberchevski a hug for me

So looking forward to playing this inmy comedy seminar at university. I honestly can't wait to see my teacher's expression when she hears it...

Hey! Don't criticize, just enjoy. Lehrer's insights into academic life (and life in general) remain brilliant. From one who at least thinks she knows a great deal about this.

Absolutely wonderful -- it's been too long since I've heard this song! Thank you so much.

I love this guy!!!

Tom Lehrer loved Danny Kaye and got this from one of Danny's greatest routines.

This such a great homage to Danny Kaye.

@Roescoe

6 жыл бұрын

Just started watching Lehrer, and he really reminds me of him.

This guy did nerd comedy decades before it was cool.

@producer111: Apparently it's not meant to be an allegation, Lehrer's on record as saying he chose the name basically because it fit the rhythm.

Brilliant, just brilliant.

Long time watcher, first time commenter. I love the intro.

Creative teacher, this is which I call it funny creative soul ♥

This had me rolling! XD

amazing

Tycker om denna version med de inledande kommentarerna om läraryrket! "I could be making, oh, 3.000 dollars a year just teaching." Kommentaren om att han beundrat Danny Kaye (stor amerikansk komiker) sedan barndomen handlar väl om att Kaye var väldigt gammal men ännu håller igång.

The only current performer close to this guy is Tim Minchin.

@jod125

4 жыл бұрын

Bo Burnham is also similar

@duxtorm

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I think Tim and Bo might make a funny collab But there's also the chance they might fight off stage XD

@userwain

2 жыл бұрын

Check out Roy Zimmerman

@johncleese-mogg365

2 жыл бұрын

I think bill bailey is a good modern equivalent

did he just say "Bože moj?" :D

@clivegoodman16

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, but in Russian.

Ah, analytical algebraic topology of locally euclidean metrizations of infinitely differential riemannian manifolds. I totes aced that one.

A Legend!

Good artists copy Great artists steal

1:05 Skip to the song!

@tai-imyr849

9 жыл бұрын

But the opening monologue is funny... Bro, why you gotta be so cruel?

@stephenwoods4118

8 жыл бұрын

+Beren Elendil No his lead-ins are funny in and of themselves.

Yes, I have the mp4 on file.

genius

Good humor.

a true genius.///

Haha, begins the fun xD

I guess Melania learned something from Lobachevsky too!

@leifvejby8023

6 жыл бұрын

Free Melania!

@parhhesia

4 жыл бұрын

@@leifvejby8023 I'll take two thanks.

@TnseWlms No. He did publish some stuff on probability theory, though.

Bozhe Mojj!

@mabarry3 More than brilliant and still a reflection of present-day "Academia". From one who knows.

@mabarry3 It's not BORJEMOR its BOZHE MOI which means "Oh my God" :DDD

$3,000 in 1965 would be $20,000 in 2009. Good ole inflation!

every chapter i stolled from somewhere elese.:))))

A classic.

Wish I could say, "Totally fucking brilliant" and have it say under my nick... 47 years ago :-P Dave.

this i know from nothing but i think of great lobachevsky and i get idea HAHA

@ffwrchamotobeics Is Tom Lehrer still around? Maybe teaching as Lehrer I think is German word for teacher. (or is it reader?)

@doctorwhom1 and where does leher fit into that ????????

Tom Lehrer was a genius

Is there no version of this with a video?

@leifvejby8023

6 жыл бұрын

Look here - I seem to remember him playing that number in Copenhagen. But it is some time ago, so - - But take a look!

'i could make 3000 dollars a year just teaching'

Well, it is similar to Newton and Leibnitz and the Calculus. Lobachevsky's is the sphere, Gauss the saddle.

@5ive23 you mean Phlem-potenuse ?

RIP Mark Russell

Just realised he made a joke about teachers not being payed enough in 1960.

@mygills3050

5 ай бұрын

the more things change, the more they stay the same!

Those curves would be wasted on a triangle.

you ve right! its Boje moi :)

no idea what he is talking about, but i want to know.

WICKED FUNNY!

what type of song would this be? like the russian tune

@cantankerousharridan

8 жыл бұрын

It borrows from Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2 - a little musical plagiarism to add to the joke

@miarencrowsdaughter6434

4 жыл бұрын

@@cantankerousharridan Liszt himself was known for doing 'fantasies' on other people's melodies - so the joke increases.

$3000 a year from teaching? What year was this?

@DavidMoscoeUni

8 жыл бұрын

+twistedlot roughly $26'000 in todays dollars

@johnduchesneau8685

8 жыл бұрын

+twistedlot About 1965. On the other hand, you could buy a house in Cambridge Mass for about $10,000 and a years tuition at Harvard was about 2,000.00.

@davidlafleche1142

7 жыл бұрын

This was recorded at Harvard in March, 1959.

As a math teacher I wonder is his song based on some legitimate evidence? Maybe Harvard should have invited Lobachevsky to be its President…

Since childbirth.

Fucking owned.

Claudine Gay brought me here.

only be sue always to call it please......research!!!!!

But there is no evidence that Lobachevsky ever copied Gauss. Afaik that was a myth.

aye

There are still the few exceptions out there.

Jeez. They had this back then, and now we have to put up with "jizz in my pants" and such witty lyrics as "tomorrow is saturday and sunday comes afterwards"? Oh how the music industry has slid down the crap chute.

@Malkmusianful

6 жыл бұрын

1. the lonely island are pretty funny, fuck you. they're not aiming for the same satiric level as lehrer - lehrer's concerns are more to do with politics, the social mores "respectable society" doesn't want to talk about, and the quirks of academia, whereas the lonely island mock the absolute stupidity of pop music and our perception of celebrities (i.e. michael bolton hijacking a song to mostly talk about all the films he's seen in the past week). 2. there's always complex and witty lyricism in indie and off-the-radar major label music. check out bandcamp. hell, check out my shit. i've been writing complex shit since 2010 - before i even knew what a rhyme scheme was. 3. rebecca black shade was old even in 2011

@bigyeetmeister7044

5 жыл бұрын

Hal Emmerich SNAP MOMMA

@MagicBoterham

5 жыл бұрын

Bo Burnham's pretty good.

@typhoidss

4 жыл бұрын

Not all modern songs are terrible, and there were bad songs in the 60's too. There were barely any creators like tom lehrer because back then, the shit he wrote was scandalous as hell. He openly made sex jokes while on TV it was still shameful to show a man and a woman in the same bed. This style was not common. He also wrote about taboo political issues which somehow he made funny. The tom lehrer music does not reflect on typical sixties music.

ah, yes, the pinterest song

He did this before bo burham make it mainstream XD