So since people keep bringing up seeing the original on TV as a kid, to clarify: The TV edit was only the TV edit for the 1960s and 1970s, probably in response to the civil rights movement. Starting in the 1980s, they brought back the original Two-Shoes, but redubbed her to have less of an exaggerated accent. So that version was probably what you saw as a kid - or maybe it was the original, it's hard to say since the only difference was the voice.

i actually like the older black lady version a lot more somehow

@dinojungle7901

Жыл бұрын

It’s because she looks way more intimidating than the 100 lbs white woman, there’s also no way a white woman would run all the way back to her house just to beat someone up. I don’t know why they changed her, she was cool

@michaelaxelafton1611

Жыл бұрын

@@dinojungle7901 i mean, there are different kinds of people

@djinnmagik

Жыл бұрын

They are hilariously funny. I love smoking a joint with my Tom & Jerry

@PkMkPresto487

Жыл бұрын

That's because she's original and the people overreacting just because she's black... Thankfully the UK DVD's only have the original versions. Some banned episodes like his mouse friday and blue cat blues are included!!!

@Vishnu_Karthik

Жыл бұрын

@@dinojungle7901 *"there’s also no way a white woman would run all the way back to her house just to beat someone up"* have you not heard of karens?

"A party? At my house? EXCUSE ME!!!!"

@KittyCat-sp3jm

Жыл бұрын

Busted!!

@vincentsantiago274

Жыл бұрын

1:07

@GoldenFlame-ft1rk

Жыл бұрын

@@vincentsantiago274 "Thomas!?"

@djinnmagik

Жыл бұрын

LOL 😆

@neilagbada6744

Жыл бұрын

Road Runner style!

They went from having overly designed to something plain as heck. For that much jewelry animated in the 50s is amazing.

@Marbles471

Жыл бұрын

If it had been in the '30s or early '40s, that jewelry would probably have been even more detailed and lush.

@evdestroy5304

Жыл бұрын

​@@muffinconsumer4431 Saying the animation is more well done on the original is not racist lmao

@evdestroy5304

Жыл бұрын

@@muffinconsumer4431 ok lol

I never looked at Mammy negatively. I always thought she was fucking awesome. Do not know why this was changed.

@CaptainJZH

Жыл бұрын

Tbf I think that's because over time people stopped using those slavery-era stereotypes - when the Tom & Jerry shorts were made, people recognized her as a stereotype and laughed at her on that basis. By the time the shorts aired on TV in the 1980s-2000s, that stereotype had vanished from mainstream culture so most viewers (especially kids) saw her as just an eccentric black woman. However, when widespread awareness of racism began in the 1960s, there was an understandable heightened sensitivity hence why they changed her altogether.

@Jukestar

Жыл бұрын

@@CaptainJZH Makes sense I suppose, but to me she just seemed like an independent woman, I mean she had her own house and everything. Never seemed like slavery to me. I just thought she was the owner of the house and Tom.

@CaptainJZH

Жыл бұрын

@@Jukestar Oh same here, that's what the majority of people from the 80s onwards (when Mammy was reinstated and the 1966 edit was taken out of circulation) probably think too - but I think in many of the cartoons the idea back in the 1940s and 1950s was that she was the housemaid stuck with the pets while the white owners were away, while today we immediately see her as being a black homeowner with an unruly cat and a dominant personality (especially since in this cartoon, she explicitly refers to it as HER house)

@Jukestar

Жыл бұрын

@@CaptainJZH I'm glad she was reinstated. These companies do these things to save face, but just make themselves end up looking more dumb. Like the Aunt Jemima shit.

@pkkingcrimsonrequiem1332

Жыл бұрын

@@Jukestar In this episode she actually was the owner, "a party, at *MY* house?". Her character changed throught the 40's from being a maid at first to being the owner (she is shown sleeping on her own as the only human in the house in A Mouse in the House and Part Time Pal.)

The one with Mammy Two Shoes was better. Plus, she delivered that line "Excuse me!" with so much more feeling in it.

Not gonna lie. Mommy two shoes had the bling, the moves, and the “power” in the old version. I recall seeing both versions and tbh, the original takes the cake.

Crazy the theatrical version had always aired on Cartoon Network Latam. Never censored mammy.

@pepitoelpachuco7754

Жыл бұрын

Si, lo pasaban mucho a principios de los 90’s después de teatro cartoon. Que tiempos

@anchorsaway9500

Жыл бұрын

It aired in the IS too on that network

@stephano01

Жыл бұрын

@@pepitoelpachuco7754 también en los 00's

@gojirafan0577

Жыл бұрын

I think it also aired on boomerang here in the uk

@tackywhale5664

Жыл бұрын

It also aired outright on Cartoon Network during the 2000s and 2010s (I think it still is even to this day), albeit with the modern dub instead of the original.

i love the theatrical "EXCUUUUUUUUUUSE ME!"

Love the fact when she tore the entire door out of her house, then zooms out to see the door was instantly repaired.

The 1950 version is a lot better not because of Mammy Two Shoes, but the continuity as well

@YuktubeIsDaFunniOne

Жыл бұрын

Yeah and the colour choices for the backgrounds look better

the original animation is a 1000 times better

@catinjar9460

Жыл бұрын

the later version is a little less better, though you can not see the white woman’s face… that’s a bore.

@danielgraham1082

Жыл бұрын

@@catinjar9460 what?

@YuktubeIsDaFunniOne

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@avus-kw2f213

Жыл бұрын

Think you would think differently if you watch this on a old tv

@RedAsshole

Жыл бұрын

Yes

I remember watching the original version of this on Cartoon Network all the time when I was a kid. I’ve never once seen the one with the white woman in my life let alone knew it existed.

LOVE Mammy Two-Shoes. She didn't put up with any nonsense from Tom! And the delivery of "Ex-CUUU-se ME!!!" Flawless!

I wonder why Tom's name was taken off his cat bed? Did anyone else see that too?

I know people have already talked about Mammy Two Shoes, but overall the original version has more detail to it. Look at when she's running back to the house, there isn't a street lamp there.

Ironic when Mammy here is really less of a Mammy here, and more of a some party woman

Not only do I think the original character was better but I also believe the animation was better in the original as well. As is Tom's bed has his name written in the original

Mammy Two Shoes was awesome and a badass. She was hysterical 😂😂

Mammy Two Shoes is legendary

I remember the black lady and I was watching most of it in 2000-2004

Mammy two shoes has just a lot of personality like I mean the OUTFIT SLAYS! That slim white woman remodel is just bland and boring 💀😭

@Shadamyfan-rs8xc

Жыл бұрын

I agree

@thinkbetter5286

Жыл бұрын

🧋😮

If you put 0.25 speed when mammy two shoes is running to the house you will finally get to see her face reveal!

I never even knew she was meant to be a mammy stereotype until reading about it a few months ago, I always saw her as a feisty black lady. I don't understand why they had to completely edit her out. Since they were capable of doing that why couldn't they have just given her a more "casual" appearance versus a maid-like dress? They already had someone re-dub her voice...

@PkMkPresto487

Жыл бұрын

That's likely the reason that my classic collection DVDs have the none edited versions. I just see her as a black lady.. nothing else

I’m glad the Mammy Two-Shoes version is what I got in the 1990s.

A party?! At my house?! EXCUSE ME!!! 🤣🤣🤣

Mammy's got personality, with how she talks and the way she walks, she's infinitely more preferable than whatever stick they throw in place of her. She may be a product of her time, but she's interesting to watch and a staple part of my childhood growing up.

In the early 2000s on european Cartoon Network it was the old version with the black lady.

@CaptainJZH

Жыл бұрын

Yes starting in the 1980s they went back to the old version, although in some areas she was redubbed because of her exaggerated accent

@audhumbla6927

Жыл бұрын

@@CaptainJZH Ok, interesting. And fascinating that they changed it already in 1966, so early for pc?. Cheers

@CaptainJZH

Жыл бұрын

@@audhumbla6927 yeah, although I'd say the redubbing was a pretty good change since it makes her less of a black stereotype and more...just a character who happens to be black

@audhumbla6927

Жыл бұрын

@@CaptainJZH I disagree 👋🏻

@heidifedor

Жыл бұрын

I have seen both versions, including the original voice actress.

The problem is not really the character change, but rather the implementation of it. In the original you can see the black lady putting on makeup and jewelry with exaggerated gestures, the table is full of stuff like a bottle of perfume and rings and her way of moving and walking is fitting for a show like Tom and Jerry. While in the white lady is just... bland, it's like she's got no character other than being Tom's owner and that's it.

She just runs all the way home, freaking breaking the door down. She may be stronger than 5 volt.

La señora negra es la clásica que todos queremos.

I swear I remember seeing the 1950 version on Cartoon Network in the late 90s early 2000s.

As far as these things go, I'd argue this was good representation for the time. In the middle of Jim Crow-era, the showed a well dressed and arguably affluent Black woman living in the suburbs. She's voiced by Black actress Lilian Randolph in a time when the Hayes Code severly limited Black Visibility in film. And, arguably, she remains the main human character in one of the most beloved cartoons of U.S. History.

I love how their solution was to whitewash her instead of keeping her black while toning down the racial caricature aspects. It makes me even more thankful for the unedited versions of the shorts that were released with the famous Whoopi Goldberg speech. That was a frankly far more mature way of handling things.

@CaptainJZH

Жыл бұрын

I believe they did actually try to tone down the caricature by redubbing her in the 1980s to have less of an exaggerated accent, but still voiced by a black woman

@MrBoat24

Жыл бұрын

It's much more original, what I grew up watching even if it came out years earlier

@sagittariusa7662

Жыл бұрын

You mean the cartoonish caricature aspects, most black people would find this funny. If this was a black cartoon made by black people, no one would think it is racist. Yeah she has a lot of jewels on. That is not racist. That is true about many black women. They doll up way too much and they still do it now.

@CaptainJZH

Жыл бұрын

@@sagittariusa7662 well yes but i believe a large part of the problem was that it was a cartoon made by white people - especially a problem specifically because of her name being "Mammy" which was in and of itself a stereotype of black women who acted as housemaids for wealthy white families. While this cartoon has her living alone, you look at earlier cartoons featuring her, she's dressed more like a maid and then in other cartoons at the same time we see Tom's owners depicted as a white couple. Today we just see this as classic cartoon inconsistency but at the time it was probably understood that Tom's owners were white people and when they were out he had to deal with their black maid. The big difference however nowadays is that people just see Two Shoes as her own person who just acts a little eccentrically, which is probably why we see her more positively now than in the 1960s which was the height of the civil rights movement.

@WillCWilson

Жыл бұрын

@@CaptainJZH Those cartoons with Tom's white owners didn't start coming out until after Mammy Two Shoes stopped appearing in 1952.

Maaan! I Always love hearing the Original, Mammiy Two Shoes yell. "Thomas!!!" Even to this day, it still makes me laugh!! 🤣🤣🤣

Mammy Two Shoes was one of my favourite things about the show when I was little. I remember seeing the 1966 edit too and was wondering why did Tom have a different owner now? It made me slightly sad.

even the house's color was changed.

I remember seeing the black lady exclusively. It aired on Cartoon Network in the early 2000s

I remember growing up with the original nanny before she was scrubbed from TV. I always thought she was badass since she didn't take shit from tom

The colors were brightened up so much that the woman turned into a different race.

The black mammy two shoes is better WAYYYYYY better I don't even have to explain

The white woman they inserted here isn't animated as well as Mammy was in the original.

The edit version looks like a nerdy girl in her late 20's excited for her very first date of her life.

@Rlotpir1972

Жыл бұрын

Still had the original voice for what I recall.

@lowhp_comic

Жыл бұрын

Why do you have to personally attack me like this....? 😭😂

@jennifercavenee7572

Жыл бұрын

Hey, I didn't come here to be called out like this.

I loved how Mammy would not let Thomas get away with any shenanigans even if Jerry was the tattletale. Mammy was the boss to Thomas and when the situation was known Jerry and badass.

I swear I have seen the unedited version on cartoon network mid 2000s i can clearly remember the stop light gag and the excessive amount of jewelry

I noticed HBO Max had Tom and Jerry on it. I was actually looking for this episode. It was not on there. The Saturday Evening Puss that i saw on t.v. when a was kid was one of my favorite episodes. Thank you for posting this.

I can't believe they changed it from the theatrical version. These people would put pants and a shirt on the statue of David.

@johnmurphy7674

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. That’s the libtards

1:14 Mammy two-shoes face reveal

I remember watching the theatrical version on TV as a kid, and I had no problem with it. 🙂

I’ve always been familiar with Mammy because that’s what I’d always see on Boomerang in my country, although they always aired the 90s Turner dubbed versions with Mammy's voice changed to another actress, until around the rebranding, and then they started using the Spotlight Collection prints that kept the original voice of the character.

@Emily-cw7tj

Жыл бұрын

In what language was that in?

Man Boomerang had the balls then cuz I remember seeing the uncensored versions

i remember watching this as a kid, and i’m not old 😭i’m 21. the jewelry is the main memory i have. the edit looks like they did it in a rush tho

I grew up with a DVD version of the right-side one, and remember that even as a kid I found it weird that such a thin innocent-looking lady could whoop Tom that hard

They had to leave Mammy in, she was so dripped out and really fun to have around, i remember watching those tom n Jerry marathons just to see her!

I don’t care if Mammy Two Shoes was supposed to be a racist caricature,she’s better than the more thinner Caucasian woman you see in the 1966 version.

Mammy 2 shoes imo, was the most badass woman character in any cartoon ever. Sassy, strong, sweet, capable, a woman who overcame the inherited condition to establish herself as THE ONE you don't fuck with, all in a realistic and relatable style.

They need to bring back Mammy Two Shoes in today’s world and in future Tom and Jerry projects too

@tonycanabal1659

Жыл бұрын

The character returned in the made for TV T&J shows as a white woman called Miss Two-Shoes.

@logandockery1512

Жыл бұрын

@@tonycanabal1659 Oh okay but it still isn't the same though but it will do

Oh im glad in my country i still see the original. I loved the real lady much more, shes more intimidating and believeable, also much more well animated.

I'm black and I don't have a problem with Mammy. Her appearance had more personality and she lives in a nice house. I wish I had a house.

I remember watching the original version several times on Cartoon Network, and I recorded that one in a VHS tape, around 2006/2007😄 Also I had the Tom and Jerry Collection Special edition on DVD in 2011 and had the original one Greetings from Venezuela

The white woman went out without a purse or bag

The og is 100 times more expressive and well... cartoony in a cartoon, I like it better

When I was a kid, I didn't quite understand why Mammy Two Shoes wore a petticoat (and sometimes several petticoats, seen whenever Jerry scares her to jump on top of a stool). Then I grew up and, among my many jobs, I worked in a reception center and noticed that, even in an agreeable weather for a european, such as the very beginning of Fall, the boys from Africa fixed their bed to have one (if not several) wool blanket(s). Now I understand and that's both illuminating and saddening.

@ingloriousMachina

Жыл бұрын

Or... women just wore slips back then.

This TV edit version (1966) is seen on Cartoon Network Asia/Philippines way back in 2000s.

Mammy Two Shoes version is the best one!🤣

Never saw the TV edited version interesting

Dutch Cartoon Network early 2000s mostly showed the Mammy Two Shoes originals (well, except for the changed voicetrack for Mammy).

we had the black woman on tv in sweden and she is by far the funniest one of the two.

Maybe Jerry would have had a better ending for him if he would’ve just let Tom win

I had a black nanny named Mrs teresa and she found “Mammy Two Shoes” really funny

I never saw the Mammy Two Shoes shorts as racist but maybe because of the voice, but the Thea Vidale redub versions of the cartoons are pretty nice.

Never saw "The Tv Edit." Appreciate the upload. Thank you.

Oh so that explains why the VHS and the tv versions felt similar but different! Original one better by far. That and as a kid I never knew about black people so this was my introduction to them and even though it was a bit scary (I was very young btw) it made them feel more human and help younger me to understand they the same as everyone else; they just looked different (also helped teach the lesson "don't judge a book by it's colour" ) especially her name which I thought she was called Mommy two-shoes. Eg. The motherly figure and a goody two-shoes (which mean't a good person to a fault), so as a kid she was a kind mother to Tom. So I had no idea who the white woman was. Tbh I thought she was an imposter.

I never seen that TV edit before but although I like the mammy two shoes the black woman better

@morganrussman

Жыл бұрын

I never really knew the tv edit version existed either for the longest time.

It's kinda weird noticing the stereotypes you didn't notice as a kid. Like when I was younger I had a bunch of Tom and Jerry dvds and saw reruns every now and then on Boomerang, and not once did it come across my mind to see Mammy as this racist caricature, I always saw her as just the owner of Tom, and all the cleaning she did was not because she was a hired maid or something but just because she wants to have a clean house. I just came from a video about the Jim Crow museum and there was a part talking about the Mammy stereotype, and I thought to myself "hmm that character looks a bit like the owner lady from Tom and Jerry" so I went looking and found the wiki page talking about it, and now I'm here. The wiki page also mentions the reason for the redesign, stating "as he [director Gene Deitch] felt a "stereotypical black housekeep" character "didn't work in a modern context."" So with the help of Chuck Jones they either kept the same model and just made the skin white, or as show here just drawing over Mammy entirely.

@kootunesscrewy

Жыл бұрын

No wonder why I didn't care for Jones' cartoons as much as Clampett's. Lol.

@kermitgotthesickkicks4265

Жыл бұрын

damn

After all these years I was right all along. They're were 2 version of this.

You know, i actually saw the censored version first, but only after rewatching it in older age i felt that something was off.

I watched both versions on Cartoon Network in the Philippines back when I was a kid and we had cable back then. I must say that Mammy was better, more unique, and more stylish. The other girl was just some typical teenager, but she was also funny though.

thank you for finding this absolute rare piece of edited controversial media!

1:10 - 1:11 (On the right side) that looked more than just being worried about someone partying at their own house, also was the 1950 version before WB decided to hire the "Whenever it is midnight outside it should be blue tinted to give off the same effect indoors guy"?

They showed the original versions of Tom & Jerry episodes with Mammy Two-Shoes here in the UK well in to the early 2000s.

Ugh, I liked the older original better.

I remember Mammy two shoes, the original

I can see why they’d change it, but couldn’t they have just had a black character who didn’t have the caricatures? It also just looks strange to see that cheap 60’s animation and aesthetics juxtaposed with that nice and clean pre-late-50’s animation.

Growing up in Serbia, i always had the original version. Never saw the other one. The original is way better.

Never have I ever seen the 1966 version

If you go frame by frame when she is running, its the only time you see her face.

The earlier version was Super! All the black community have a beautiful way of speaking... And this movie carried it beautifully...Great job by Animators and the Voice Over artists... It was nice picturization... ❤❤❤ On the other hand, white one looked boring, flat and unsuitable to the story....

4 kids be like

Curioso que en el Cartoon Network de Latinoamérica nunca pasaron la versión de "1966" Siempre pasaron los de 1950 con la "dueña original"

I never even knew about the edit so this is all news to me.

The black woman makes it more funny, and I should know, I had a momma that whoops ass if you cross the line.

*Theatrical was dramatically better*

I have another edit of this cartoon on VHS. Wherein they kept the white woman, but used Mammy's original voice actress, rather than the June Foray redub. And when Turner acquired Tom And Jerry in the 80s, they had Thea Vidale re-record all of Lillian Randolph's lines to make Mammy sound less stereotyped. It was only with the Golden Collection in 2011 that we finally got to hear Randolph in all her appearances. Speaking of the Golden Collection, Volume 2 was canceled in 2013 due to severe fan backlash over not including Mouse Cleaning and Casanova Cat (which were also excluded from the Spotlight Collections). As of 2023, it still has not been released.

God forbid we portray a Black working class woman as succesfull owner of a big house

All I remember is the 1950s version, I don't remember seeing the edit. and I am from the 80s

1:14 We can't see her face on the right

I grew up with the black lady in the 2000s (I'm from 98). She was dubbed to spanish since I live in Argentina. Thank god I could watch her and not that mayonnaise water down version.

@freakytostadacartoon

Жыл бұрын

Tomás gato bueno para nada.

The original was played on TV in my country here in South Africa (Early 2000s). 😂 Guess nobody here in Africa ever found it offensive.

Older one was better, nothing beats a sassy black women they’re always funny and a joy