Better know what you're doing if you're going to hold a load hostage... Put the storage fee's in the rate con. If this happens, then send them a invoice each day for $1000 storage fees and I do not release product till fee's are paid. Just like a storage facility would do.

@johnwells920

2 жыл бұрын

Lol enjoy the freight claim

@karafez394

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnwells920 oh well companies can not get paid, & keep upsetting drivers & they’ll go bankrupt from protest.. at the end of the day truckers are needed not brokers dispatchers office cubicle ppl. A owner op can do it all honestly.

@johnwells920

2 жыл бұрын

@@karafez394 youre not that smart are ya. Seriously I'm being sincere

@flounder2760

2 жыл бұрын

I dont see you refuting the claim john... your just acting like your smarter than him but arent providing proof.... I know of atleast one way for an owner operator to do their own brokering... please explain why karafez isnt bright.. expound your wisdom upon us.

@pokerman9108

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnwells920 trust me it works. A freight claim ect is going to drag out for them because it is in the contract.... If they want to waste their time with that and money on product etc... all for a couple grand. go right ahead. All my contracts with brokers have storage fee's listed. In fact the way it goes down is the customer talks to the broker, whom then call me and I point out the fee's. most of the time the broker pays them out of pocket... They don't want to lose their customer over a few grand. Would you dump a customer you make 50k a year off of for a few K? doubt it... this shit i not all cut and dry like you think. this is still the wild west... "just go make a freight claim." is not so easy my man. also product not getting to a brokers customer is them risking a lot of money most of the time.... If they don't pay ball, then my lawyer calls them. You sound like you know nothing about business... More than one way to skin a cat my man. Like none of this happens to me because I know the game so well. I lost thousands while learning this game.

I had an executive from an oil company call me to inform me that I had to sit on his load over a labor day weekend after the delivery address that was given to me was wrong. I flat out told him he make arrangements to get me unloaded or I confiscate it and he will have to contact my attorney to re negotiate terms. He got on the ball and got me a proper address to drop his load. Sometimes we have to push back or get used to being a doormat.

@dominick253

2 жыл бұрын

There's a story of a load of potatoes where that happened. Trucker was a pro. No problem he said. He stored it at a warehouse and kept on trucking. Months later when they went to court the judge sided with the trucker and they paid an absurd amount of money to get a load of rotten potatoes. You own it while it's on the truck. That's what they sign the bol to you.

@stevethomas5209

2 жыл бұрын

@@dominick253 I highly recommend anyone thinking of going into the trucking business should spend a few bucks and hire an attorney for an hour to instruct them on these issues. Truckers are loosing thousands of dollars because of issues like this. They need to be ready and have all the right answers when the brokers and shippers and receivers screw up. They always want the trucker to take the brunt of the screw up when they caused it in the first place. In my case when that executive in Canada realized his staff forwarded the wrong information to the broker for the delivery address on my load and I was not going to sit on his freit over the labor day weekend for free he got on the ball and found an address to drop his delivery right quick. My point here is I was adamant that his freit was my property if he didn't figure it out at 3:30 in the afternoon Friday before the holiday weekend. Truckers need to be ready to set the record and tell them how things are going to work out if they dont fix the problem. The cost of reloading his freit and having it shipped BY ME ONLY would cost him a fortune. It was about to become my property and if he wanted it I was not going to play nice at all. Glad he got the message so it worked out for both of us..... Hey Truckers !!! That's how it's done.... so grow a set and wise up for the sake of your industry and stop doing business like crack head loosers.

@SeeSaw99

2 жыл бұрын

Same thing happened to me with a broker on a Proctor and Gamble load. Broker lied about the delivery date and thought I was going to sit 4 days for free. Every night at midnight, I sent them a storage bill of $750 per day. I ended up getting about 75% of the total storage bill. You guys need to learn the laws that protect you from broker fraud and abuse.

@SeeSaw99

2 жыл бұрын

@dominick253 FINALLY. Someone who understand the freight chain of custody. You are absolutely correct. The "driver" took ownership/responsibility for the load at pickup and is 100% responsible for it until someone else accepts delivery. PERIOD. As long as the driver fulfilled his part of the agreement, he's protected

@vwalsh63

2 жыл бұрын

@@SeeSaw99 he's protected right up until he tries to hold the load hostage. The thing is he basically owns that load when he put it on the truck. That means that until someone else signs to accept it, the consignee another carrier or a storage place/warehouse. Maybe these guys talking about a friend of a friend did this or that know stuff I don't. Think about this, you're in a city not your own, you decide to put this load in storage. How do you do that? Do you think possibly the warehouse guy might wonder about things like who will be paying him? Who actually owns this stuff? Who authorized it to be delivered to an unauthorized address? How many agencies are going to be racing over here to arrest me for receiving stolen goods? He handled it as well as he could. Get out from under the liar's load asap by any means necessary. Accept whatever extra money offered. Ideally make the delivery without incident. Then look at the bill of lading. You will see "prepaid" meaning the shipper is paying the freight, or "collect" meaning the consignee is paying the freight. Once you've determined that (understand that the "shipper" may not be where you loaded, same with the delivery) once you've determined who pays then you know who the broker's customer is. That's where you send your "amended" freight bill with your extra charges and an explanation of why you have billed them directly. If you're asking for reasonable compensation you'll probably get it. From the broker. Who doesn't want to lose his customer. The one who was on the phone with him 10 seconds after he read your freight bill.

What they did is called a “theft of services” I was on a dock in Fon Du Lac Wisconsin they had me 12 Hours late waiting then I bumped the dock five times then pull off due to “refrigerators” not working properly so I started videoing the activity at the dock six trucks backed in got loaded and pulled off. I did have a lawyer. He sued them for theft of services, $450,000 later I was a happy camper. What they did was falsify federal paperwork and scammed you out of fuels and insurance. You know if something happened to that load they would’ve sued you and filed on your insurance.

@thomasmorris6189

2 жыл бұрын

Ok tell me what attorney does this kind of work. I need one to help me with some past employment issues. I get fed up when I have to wait 2 weeks for detention of 6 hours and what I got was 116.00. These consignee had a 2 hr window to unload, then have me sit in the dock till 11 am and I arrived at 03:15 am. Who is the attorney or the type you use.

@quetzelmedina3

2 жыл бұрын

@@thomasmorris6189 good on ya. Take action.

@MuzzaHukka

2 жыл бұрын

Seeing your comment made me want to become a trucker just so that I can put myself in a situation to sue people for $450,000 😂

@Kathleen67.

2 жыл бұрын

Nice. I wonder if it hit them hard enough to make a difference for others

@User-qy7fl

Жыл бұрын

This is very valuable information for O/O. To know there is something we can do is awesome! Glad you kept your foot planted in that situation.

Everyone needs to hold these brokers and shippers/receivers accountable, they don't treat us well enough, don't take any bs from them, good job

@usoafreight2696

2 жыл бұрын

What do you mean they don't "treat you well". What does that mean if you can elaborate on that

@YIAudta..

2 жыл бұрын

It means if they have something they're doing when you pull up, you don't come first and they'll match and exceed your attitude about it.

@adeelnasir1518

2 жыл бұрын

Well I don’t know how not to put up with them and lay out my terms . It seems to never works or at least 90 % of them time . I need 175 per hour or $3 per mile plus all charges like tolls . Gas scale IFTA cargo insurance . Return route only . Please educate me where I can do this

@raymondreddington4952

2 жыл бұрын

@@adeelnasir1518 if it doesn't pay well tell them no...that's how you do it

@joerussell838

Жыл бұрын

Most brokerages don't have the industry knowledge of say myself, owner, driver of several trucks for 30+ years. The 8% industry standard has blown out the window. The snakes have basically ruined the best part of the industry. Supply/demand vs business ethics. Most brokerages don't have business ethics or a true understanding of the industry.

We all need to start negotiating straight with the customer and do away with load brokers

@Kevo1993

2 жыл бұрын

I agree

@All-Miles-Matter

2 жыл бұрын

I agree

@alfredstewart6419

2 жыл бұрын

I agree!

@eln0n01

2 жыл бұрын

Often times customers don’t wanna deal with truckers that’s why they work with brokers, “here is all the work I have figure it out”, if you are able to find direct customers find them and make sure you keep them happy, have a deal with HR not with warehouse manager because a new manager can come at any time at not validate your deal with the previous manager.

@lamara8497

2 жыл бұрын

I've been saying this for years! Brokers are really in the damn way!

That phone call even got my blood boiling, I felt your pain Nick

@solorio114

2 жыл бұрын

Right i felt that one too!

@kq5045

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t know how he kept his coolness during that conversation,I have high blood pressure listening to that conversation.

@bigb63fsu

2 жыл бұрын

@@kq5045 you could literally sense the bs that was about to come out of that guy’s mouth

@drewrbunn

2 жыл бұрын

I would have been cursing, swearing, and threatening that brokers life..

@tonymoran2142

2 жыл бұрын

RIGHT!!!

That’s a classic move in the industry! Using owner ops for storage. Best way to beat the system is to; go above the brokers head and call the customer and confirm your delivery time before you leave the shipper.

@hollywoodsaint57

2 жыл бұрын

great idea

@wingmangaming2043

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I knew some one who found another trailer that was good enough condition that was fairly cheep so he went and bought it and just left the trailer with the other load at the lot and ran another load and sent the original delivery a storage fee of 680$ per night over 5 days and at the same time took a load 5 states over and dropped his trailer at a friends house and went grabbed his original trailer delivered that sold the trailer he bought 6 days prior with no loss

@thisismagacountry1318

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, these are the kind of tips new drivers need

@williamking6306

2 жыл бұрын

Yea the receiver can get you unloaded but does tat get you paid??

WE NEED MORE GUYS THAT STAND UP TO BROKERS THIS WAY, VERY PROFESSIONAL & FIRM.. MUCH RESPECT ✊🏾

@tannerpaisley-ve6dq

Жыл бұрын

True, but most likely his company took a hit. Carrier 411 should let him speak his story also. "Carrier 411" type sites need to be sued

@tannerpaisley-ve6dq

Жыл бұрын

True, but most likely his company took a hit. Carrier 411 should let him speak his story also. "Carrier 411" type sites need to be sued

This used to happen to me all the time until I developed my own contacts and got contracts direct with shippers. At one time I had 5 loads sitting in warehouses all over the country. All paid eventually and they paid storage too. I didn’t tolerate this bullshit. My business is intentionally designed to turn a profit. It’s done on purpose. I got away from brokers and dealt direct with customers and guess what? All those issues disappeared.

@AyyYoGee

2 жыл бұрын

How did you get direct contracts with shippers when most of the customers don’t want to work with owner ops ? Any tips?

@AncientPharaoh

2 жыл бұрын

@@AyyYoGee He is stating none factual bs. Don’t believe him.

@mayainverse9429

2 жыл бұрын

@@AncientPharaoh its possible he is dealing with small businesses who need like 1 load a month shipped or something.

@thisismagacountry1318

2 жыл бұрын

How do you find random warehouses in strange cities to hold the load? Seriously interested in the answer.

@christopherjustus6667

2 жыл бұрын

@@AyyYoGee we did 2 things. My wife became a freight broker and we also worked closely with customers that needed niche services. It’s all about relationships. Develope them and invest in your business relationships. Sometimes it is a waste of time. But only sometimes. We made a lot of contacts and slowly we worked with smaller shippers, manufacturers, jobbers, etc and we developed excellent relationships with some big names like Kraft, Pillsbury, Tyson. When they needed a delivery that was out of the normal and didn’t fit the contracts with big trucking companies. We got the call. Handled the delivery immediately, and made sure everything for the customer was smooth sailing. No issues ever. It became a name your price relationship with many businesses because we were so good. Like I said, grow relationships with people. Invest in them. Most of the time it will pay big dividends. It’s not something that happens overnight. We worked on it for many years. Our relationships with the small guys kept us busy as hell and our relationships with the big guys not only allowed us to haul their products but we also grew a heavy haul/ over dimensional trucking company along with a rigging company because of the trust we built with them. We moved heavy equipment for these big food manufacturers. Everything from ovens, mixers, vats, pumps, piping. It all grew from a single handshake and a promise to never ever let them down.

I owned a trucking company with 1200 employees. If a brokers mouth is moving he is lying. It has been that way for a hundred years. If you are going to make it in the business, you MUST develop your own contacts. My nephew still runs trucks and right now he gets paid whatever he wants. Many times 6-7-8 dollars a mile. F these brokers.

@uzcontractor

2 жыл бұрын

Hi what you mean by you should develop your own contacts? Thanks

@tmonster1498

2 жыл бұрын

@@uzcontractor if you don’t understand that, your in the wrong business….Make your own contacts with shippers…Deal with companies direct that need trucking…call big suppliers and get on their list for loads

@user-yq3fz9ch5q

2 жыл бұрын

@@tmonster1498 FACT

@hollywoodsaint57

2 жыл бұрын

AGREED! F THESE BROKERS! ...They take half the profit

@DrClawizdead

2 жыл бұрын

What lanes are he driving that he makes $8.00 a mile?? There's no way.

I worked for a heavy haul company, I picked up a customers crawler crane, called my dispatcher when I got loaded, he said bring it to our yard instead of the customers job site, the next morning the customer called looking for his crane, my boss told him when you pay us for the previous moves you’ll get your crane, he got paid in full that afternoon

@hotrodhunk7389

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! You own it while it's on your trailer. They don't get possession back until after they pay.

@kalel33

2 жыл бұрын

@@hotrodhunk7389 I dare you to try that with a USPS load. You'll be in prison for many years. You don't F with the mail.

@robertesposito9871

2 жыл бұрын

@@kalel33 it would be a little tough hauling mail on a beam trailer

@kalel33

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertesposito9871 The guy in the video had mail on his truck.

@Jugg215

2 жыл бұрын

@@kalel33 he said in the video he was hauling candy...

Broker knows exactly what he did. He's just stalling to make you wait longer.

Drove for a small company and dealt with the brokers myself often. I would always call receiver when loading and double check the receiving hours and “appointment times”

@johnchambers1380

Жыл бұрын

More and more its getting impossible to call a receiver or shipper. Mclane is notorious for bad service.

Detention is at $115 PH and layover is $750 per day. You also should have had the broker sign your contract as well.

That broker was acting like they're the only broker in the country, threatening you with no loads. You absolutely had the leverage

I appreciate how nice you were. I operate 10 trucks and each truck gross over 2k a day. I have a great debt recovery team and lawyer play with my money I’ll drag you in court. Shippers pay money don’t take shit from a broker!! Each truck and trailer runs me quarter million. I’m not playing games. This isn’t my daddy’s money. You pay me or say bye to your freight!

@Loloblade47

2 жыл бұрын

100%

I was so angry watching this.. These brokers don't care. These customers don't care. They don't want to understand. You are such a positive guy Nick. I hope when I'm in this situation I will be able to handle it like you did. Sending all the positive vibes your way my man.

@PoptartGoneTrucking7016

2 жыл бұрын

Brokers don’t care should be regulated this girl knows this trucking game is tough

@mdlclassguymdlclassguy6488

2 жыл бұрын

@@PoptartGoneTrucking7016 -- damned straight I have a nephew who is a broker and all his uncle's and his grandfather were truck drivers, he's still a theif that doesn't do crap for a living, needless to say he is persona non grata with the family

@thinkaboutlife5335

2 жыл бұрын

Cheap foreign labor killing America

I like how the broker went straight to you can’t hold the load hostage never mind that the load is holding your truck hostage!

@kalel33

2 жыл бұрын

Technically, you can't hold mail hostage. That's a felony and you don't want the Postal Inspectors on your butt.

@Rizzyvoe

2 жыл бұрын

@@kalel33 it was a load of candy not mail. Sigh. Never mind, you think bc be was parked next to that post office that he was going to deliver there.

That guy with a gun is why you should always carry, regardless of illegal unconstitutional laws. Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

@random13627

2 жыл бұрын

that’s why i carry

@Kasejeb

2 жыл бұрын

Maxo Kream

@Trp510

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kasejeb that saying is from the 1950s . Maxo didn’t invent it smh

@Kasejeb

2 жыл бұрын

@@Trp510 I didn’t say he Invented it?

@FreedomInc

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately that isn't enough. The truth is that the vast majority of peoppe would be far different carrying a rock over a firearm. Having a firearm alone doesn't make you safe. Having a firearm and having the knowlege your grandpa thought you isn't enough. Spend the money get training and learn how to fight with that firearm. All the things you dont know will show their pretty face at the time that you need to know them. For instance malfunctions. The fight won't stop when a firearm has a malfunction. You have to have the training and practice so that clearing that malfunction becomes second nature. Along with a kost kd.other things. Anyway, spend the money and get training. And no, those shty ccw classes are not training.

Nothings worse then a kid saying “I completely understand” as he sits in his house in his underwear knowing nothing about trucking

Man, you held your composure and remained professional! I commend you for how you handled it. That was such a shitty deal on the broker's end. You should put them on blast and leave them a horrible review that they deserve!

@MichaelMulin

2 жыл бұрын

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You handled that really well, I have this character defect that when I feel I’m being screwed over I go off. The older I’ve gotten I’ve gotten a little better but this video got my blood boiling. Prop’s to you!! You handled very well. Be safe out there 👍✌️

@tonyp2572

2 жыл бұрын

Same bro it’s gonna get me killed one day

@livingadamman7994

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that broker had dealt with this sort of mess up their end before and disgruntled truckers , tried pushing the driver into a corner "this won't look good as a solo driver" crap instead of honestly admitting driver is 100% right and maybe saying sorry this is not my policy I just work for a bunch of inconsiderate parasites. Anyway he was ok and he sorted it out, but the $200 was an insult. They put you out of schedule 4 days !

@billybritt5334

2 жыл бұрын

That's why I don't run refer anymore they all have attitudes and brokers are shitty

I'm sorry this happened bro. I can tell this was very emotionally draining and extremely frustrating for you. You handled it very well. Cheers brother keep on truckin on!

Thanks for sharing this frustrating journey. It's great to see how you handled everything and what the outcome was. I had a situation that I had to negotiate a return rate for a rejected load. I didn't tell them that I was holding the load hostage, but I parked it until they agreed to the rate. So really I was holding it hostage. Thankfully, I didn't need to twist their arm for them to agree. Use your leverage when you need to!

Hats off for you brother, you really handled it well and hey he was feeling the pressure for sure. Good luck on the journey . Well done Nick

This just happened to me. The broker AND my dispatcher(as far as I'm concerned) lied through their teeth just to FORCE me to take the load AND on a weekend that the company knew full well I was suppose be getting home! But these brokers do it bc NO ONE holds them accountable for their bs they pull when they NEED/WANT to get the load on AND hold our trucks hostage with a shitty rate to begin with! Good for you for charging the $1k, I hope you got it for every single day..... He's Lying ALL THE WAY THROUGH HIS TEETH btw!

@tuvoca825

2 жыл бұрын

If 1000 a day isn't enough to get the boss to show up and make it happen, you aren't charging enough.

@antnonyeme2192

2 жыл бұрын

Inbox me I am the best dispatcher! I will go head to head on with these brokers!

@kenbowser5622

2 жыл бұрын

Find another company. I can tolerate a lotta shit but the one I won't tolerate is a liar. Where might that shit end? Works good for me, I don't get lied to.

I feel like you were respectful handled urself professionally and got your point across clear way to go standing your ground brotha

This video showed up and after watching I subscribed because my uncle use to be a trucker and he traveled the states and the stories I heard one time he asked me to.take a trip with him to Virginia and that's when I learned there was a whole new world in the trucking industry..RIP Goldi still keep trucking in heaven.

I don't really watch your content but stumbled on this and just wanted to say you are a professional and completely level headed than most people in this industry. Hope it all worked out and you are well.

Hey Nick you handle that without blowing up you kept your cool and everything came out for you keep on trucking Nick be safe out there.

First time catching your content and I give you a high salute. You handled this situation with remarkable communication skills, as a 17 yr "Rookie", you schooled me here to keep this in the back of my mind for future similar experiences. ☆☆☆☆☆

This is pathetic. Yes, he shouldn't have threatened to sell the load, but I understand his frustration. Truckers are squeezed from every angle...constantly rising gas prices, reduced pay, and shit like this. The big shippers know that truckers have no real power so they take advantage of it. It was the shipper who was at fault for entering the wrong date and he's just supposed to eat it? BS. You're a great guy!

@kalel33

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry, you don't threaten to sell a load that is going to USPS. That means it's mail and you do not want to F around with the Postal Inspectors.

@bluelightbullshit5792

2 жыл бұрын

@@kalel33 don't fuck a driver biggest thing

@ethancastillo6763

Жыл бұрын

@@kalel33 usps lol?? He said it was candy. How’s he supposed to sell mail on the street? That’s not even product 😂

@kiamccarthy7612

Жыл бұрын

You have talk that way get things done they want use his truck for storage $200 day nope 👎 just wrong

Nick, it was written all over your face my friend. I got so pi$$ed off watching this. I’ll be honest, had that been me it would not have gone good for the guy on the other end. I know I would have been wrong but I just don’t have the patience you do. You’re a good man and I’m glad it’s gonna work out for ya.

Dang Nick I was angry for you. My wife and I want to get into otr trucking soon. We have some hurdles to overcome but we'll get there. You and my Wife have the same disposition but I'm high strung. I really appreciate how you handled that situation and the fact you allowed us to see it unfold. Times are changing. Some for the better and some not so much. May God bless you with just a little bit more than you ask for. Amen!

Best of luck to this brother let us know what happens, you're the man for not losing it.

You handled that a lot better than I could, I would’ve cursed them out and have had everything sold by the next hour

Great video brotha I like the way you handled it and didn’t flip out on em I think you handled it professionally and keep that great content comin I’ll definitely be watching and shout outs to you and Beast of Logan over there in Cali doing the damn thang💯👍🏾stay safe stay positive and God bless you and your family my wonderful brotha 💯👍🏾💪🏾🙏🏾✝️

This is very common for small independents getting screwed. This is why I haul Household goods only. I set my own rates, and I have a 17 page tariff. What you need to do immediately is send the Broker and Shipper a Notice that you will be placing the goods into storage in the next 24 - 48 hours, and cite the breach in the hauling contract. You will need to cc the letter to your insurance company, state police, and FMCSA. This way they cannot have you arrested for frivolous offenses, If they refuse to act within the time stated on your notice, place the goods into storage and invoice them. Follow the protocol above to cc everyone. If they fail to pay you for storage and reasonable waiting time and all other expenses incurred, you send them a final letter demanding payment in 7 days, or you will place the goods into a public auction. If no money comes in 7 days, you have a right to sell of the goods in an auction. This will be a big time waster for you, and keep in mind if you make any mistakes, they will use that against you in a cargo claim. Check with your state on the procedures for public auctions, and how you should notify the debtor. All the best. Alternatively, I have been told by a friend that you can call the FMCSA and explain the problem to them and they can show you how to file a claim on the brokers surety bond. This may be the easiest way, however you will need to do this after you have delivered the load. The claim process may take several months to be adjudicated, and the chance of winning the claim is not certain.

@Jfdas123

2 жыл бұрын

Where and how did you get the 17 page tariff? This sounds like really good advice.

@Dan13Speed

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jfdas123 I love to write. My Wife looks at the tariff and she says, "Your nuts 😆". Here is how you do it. First you start by defining the carrier, that is your company. Name address, MC and DOT number. Then you define who is your Shipper I.e the person who hires the carrier to haul the load. Then you define the consignee etc. Secondly you define your rate per mile. Say $8 It needs to be high so you can discount it on an invoice. Then you define things such as payment terms, waiting time, storage in transit, tolls, lumpers etc. You then define things such as your procedures when a shipper fails to pay. When a consignee is unable to receive. You think about all the scenarios that happen in real life on the road that you encounter under a load. Over weight procedures and fines, Hazmat procedures and permits. Finally you have a table for fuel surcharges. If the fuel is $4 fuel surcharge will be 12% if fuel is $5 fuel surcharge will be 18% etc. Then get it down to fine print and sent it directly to your Shipper once they book a load along with an estimate. Send a copy of your tariff to the FMCSA so they have it on file. If you update it or make changes make sure you update them. It's that simple. I haul house hold goods, motorcycles cars and boats so whomever wants me to haul their stuff gets an estimate as well as my tariff. All the best.

@supermodelatlanta1354

Жыл бұрын

This is better than judge judy

You handled this well!! Good job for stickin up for yourself! 🤘 #NothinToIt just found your channel. Be safe out there trucker! Appreciate all you do

I had a somewhat same problem once and I put the load in a storage yard and rented a trailer and went on with business. The end result was I got paid storage and redelivy fees, it took 3 weeks for them to get there stuff together but I was not going to give into them

@user-yq3fz9ch5q

2 жыл бұрын

That's how it's done, good job hand😎

@kenbowser5622

2 жыл бұрын

Good job

THERE HAS TO BE A WAY TO FIGHT BROKERS & THESE SCUMBAG CORPORATIONS!! THIS IS CRIMINAL!! Sorry man, this is insane.

@christophernunez3403

2 жыл бұрын

Ya there is a way. Don't use them and get relationships with the customers themselves. Thats what I do

@m.e.m.jr.4294

2 жыл бұрын

@@christophernunez3403 How do you go around brokers getting loads from customers?

@christophernunez3403

2 жыл бұрын

@@m.e.m.jr.4294 i have business relationships with the customers

@excitedbox5705

2 жыл бұрын

Every time you deliver or pickup a load offer to match/undercut the broker by a few percent. The brokers take a huge cut so even if you go 10% under the brokers quote you come out ahead. After a few years you will have a bunch of customers and enough loads to fill your calendar.

@alexnone5720

2 жыл бұрын

It's called a contract. Read it and if there are no penalties for the broker in this situation don't take the load. If you accept the contract that has no penalties against the broker you have no legal recourse in this situation.

There are several things that MUST be changed in the industry: 1. Improved detention payment, accrued by the hour. 2. Shippers load, consignee's unload. Plain simple, drivers MUST NOT pay lumpers to unload the consignee's freight. 3. Time limit of 1 hour to load/unload any load. Detention after. 4. OO's set per mile based on length of trip. Should charge "putting up with shit" fee to go into areas like CA. And allowed to charge surcharges as needed for reefer fuel used to keep loads a "REQUIRED TEMP". 5. Company drivers paid by the hour when company directs routes. 6. Those trained by military or police and trucking is a second career by allowed to concealed carry in trucks nationwide. This shouldn't be an issue for any driver to carry , but you know, Chicago, LA, NY.

@25mfd

2 жыл бұрын

i LIKE this list

Had this situations to often. Glad you took it like a boss.. i did switched to dry vans, that was my solution and happy about it. Good luck and keep your truck shinny.

I'm about to get my CDL thank you for this video man serousily THANK YOU!!!! Record talks with problems and find legal representation!!!! Ps. Trucking reminds me of door dash lol

Nick!!! You are one COOL DUDE. just watching this video made my blood pressure go sky-high. But I did learn something. In the long run it’s better to keep a cool head in situations like that. Still if it was me, I’d be mother trucker this, mother trucker that. lol. You are an A-plus Brutha!

Had that happen to me but I ended sitting on the load for a weekend in Beautiful Castroville California! In the off season ghost town! Liked your comment “ I’m a one truck operation” doesn’t matter no shipper or broker should do that to you! Keep on Trucking!

Thanks for standing your ground. We need to get better terms in our contracts.

You handled it like a boss. Well done man

You should sue him for loosing revenue because that’s NOT in your contract

@kalel33

2 жыл бұрын

*losing

@billybritt5334

2 жыл бұрын

@@kalel33 you're book smart I bet your the biggest pos sheeple out there you believe everything cnn tells you..idiot now get your school book out you gotta be book smart with zero intelligence lmfao 🐑

@billybritt5334

2 жыл бұрын

@@kalel33 intelligence is not in any book 🐏

@kalel33

2 жыл бұрын

@@billybritt5334 The highest correlation that we can use for intelligence is grammar/vocabulary. Don't believe me then Google it.

Love how he essentially says take the layover or we will black flag you. May as well pull a gun on you dude. these brokers have always been scammers...worse thing to ever happen to the industry. Candy load? Sell it at the side of the road lol

@MMACHMP

2 жыл бұрын

Fuck them id have told him black flag my ass you bitch

@markduffield1147

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the broker already got his money or at least a majority of it. Their all criminals.

@usoafreight2696

2 жыл бұрын

@@markduffield1147 Brokers don't get paid until the load is shipped to the consigner so what you mean the broker got their money or majority? They don't get jack until the product is dropped. Brokers don't get prepaid.

@kalel33

2 жыл бұрын

Did you notice it was a delivery to a post office? 99% chance he is carrying mail, which means selling it would be a massive felony and the Postal Inspectors don't F around.

@garand70

2 жыл бұрын

@@kalel33 He was parked by a post office with a load of candy, not delivering mail.

You do very well under pressure. I definitely appreciate that.

Thank you for this video, it's something that all truckers should be aware of. Because I stand with you on this. It's pretty crazy that them dated was that far off. Just absolutely insane!

Same thing happened to a few months ago, I told the broker he would have to cut me a comdata check BEFORE I unloaded or I was gonna sell the load, he said I couldn't do that, I informed him the load belongs to me untill the bills are signed, I got my money 2 hrs later.

Yooooo, my guy. I haaaaate that you're so nice and calm in situations like this. These brokers and even companies have to know that you mean business and to not try and fuck you out of your monies. You didn't post the call to the other broker that got mad at you, would've loved to know if he gave you the load again. But yeah, add some base in your voice and kick them in the ass if they mess with your time and money or just call me, I'll do it for you 👌🏽

Very unfortunate manipulative conversation from the other end of the phone. Your a likable, interesting person, unusual and much appreciated in this world of over the top, click based content. Class A driver since 1985 and have use that license throughout the last 37 years, still my favorite form of work. Beautiful truck, stay in integrity with your self and I wish you well in your business.

Thanks for being level headed and even though your upset not taking your anger out on people whose fault it wasn't, the receiving clerks, lower totem pole company people etc. People who are just doing their job and have no say in causing or fixing the issue. More people need to do that, I'm glad you stuck it to the broker like he deserved but you are nice and polite to the little guys.

@Velox18

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, that's like getting mad at the gas station clerk because gas prices are too high, lol.

@gregorybentley5707

2 жыл бұрын

@@Velox18 As someone who works retail..you'd be surprised just how many people do. :( So thanks

Dude I just found this online looking at videos I'm truly sad how these brokers work you seemed very professional and handled it very well you got a new sub and shared with family and friends thank you for everything you do I'm a flatbed driver with no patience big salute 🤜🏾🤛🏻

Interesting that the broker expects you to pay for their/company error. Then to talk about how they would damage you if you do not comply with their demands? You did well there. I think I would hire some temps load the product in a storage unit , overnite the keys and tell them to go suck themselves. I would eat the loss Of expenses but there is no way they would tell me what to do with MY equipment and business. Then call my attorney for a letter that advises them if they post anything negative I will be suing for business interference and also slander.

@pain_weaver

2 жыл бұрын

You mean libel. Slander is spoken.

@overlandecuador8893

2 жыл бұрын

@@pain_weaver yes, both as they would be conversing in the office, company. 32 years ago I sued a company for both after they did not pay me for a large bonus under contract. When I sued just for the back pay I sued them for libel, slander, malicious prosecution, interference with business relationships and 3 other counts when they retaliated and did some stupid stuff in an attempt to pressure me to drop my case. I won a judgement for $366,000 against the owners of the company, husband and wife. They bankrupted, I bought the company at auction for .10 on the dollar including the vehicle they drove and the desks they sat in, restarted the company with expanded and improved product line, sold the company 12 years later and it continues today. One way or another I am going to collect.😎

@jethro9341

2 жыл бұрын

@@overlandecuador8893 lies

@seancarriere8643

2 жыл бұрын

@@overlandecuador8893 and then everyone started clapping.....

@overlandecuador8893

2 жыл бұрын

@@jethro9341 You are just jealous. I’m a winner, you wait on stimmie checks. Let’s go Brandon, your Daddy.

How is that 💩 even legal . These companies don’t even care at all about the people that bust there buts to keep them in business ! Absolutely Disgusting 🤢 . Good on you for standing your ground , guys like you are standing up for all of us . Thank you .

Thank you for the video. Spent the time explaining to my wife what a "Want to be" truck driver shouldn't do.

My dad was a truck driver which worked for a company until he passed away in 96. If my dad was still alive and someone did that crap to him I'm 100% sure it would not go over that well. When it came to risking his means of taking care of the family he did not play around.

Sorry you had to deal with that Nick. More drivers need to start doing this. Keep truckin brother!

I subscribed @ 19:48! stay strong brother! Loved that you didn't take that shit.

the most diplomatic driver I've ever seen!!

I would have lost it man which probably would have ended bad, props to you brother for keeping your cool like u did. You honored your end of it

I had an absolute hate for brokers when i worked shipping and receiving. The first couple hours of the shift were the busiest and we absolutely could not handle a large truck out of order most of the time. I worked at a company that had 3 sets of 3 dock doors. Most were reserved for drop and hooks and i only had about 3 doors we could really use, and 1 was on the opposite end of the building. And we didn't have much dock side space, we had room to unload a single trailer, if that, and after that we had to start hauling material to storage, and we only had a couple forklifts. I had a guy show up at 3:30 asking for a door, his broker had told him to get there at 4, our dock time for that truck was 6PM. He was livid when i told him i couldn't get to him for 2 hours, but i had a 4 PM live load/backhaul for 1 door, a 5PM live load/backhaul for the 2nd door and the 3rd door was just not an option because of the location. It was not the last time that happened either. And it wasn't like this was a one off load for us, this particular truck was a 3x Weekly delivery. It was always nice when we got the same drivers as they knew what to expect. At one point we were expediting 1 or 2 skids of product every 4 hours to the customer (not our fuckup) so we had sprinters showing up like clockwork. I had one guy walk in after i just gave the previous guy the paperwork to leave (they literally held the door for each other) and asked how soon he could be loaded. He was not happy when i said 4 hours. I told him we are shipping every 4 hours and that guy just walked out with everything we have right now.

Stay positive brother and stand strong for yourself because nobody else is going to, I'm retired now but I thought with such a shortage of drivers things were finally changing

Thanks again for your attention to detail.

I never jumped ship and I was always driving for somebody else, mostly smaller companies though. The smaller companies boss man was usually a networking Wheeling dealing fast talking son of a gun! I have experienced what you’re talking about and how they handled it. Generally he knew somebody or someone who had a warehouse and a forklift locally and they would send me over to dump the load. Bear in mind this only works if this is an area that you go to quite regularly. Usually he hung the delivery location out to dry in that we didn’t deliver until he got damn good and ready and it was really convenient for my company. We charged a really hefty redelivery fee and sometimes I think he hooked them for storage too. Meanwhile our trucks were still running, making money etc. The big technical difference here is we never planned on selling the freight or crossed with the ideas of stealing the freight. We had every intention all the time of delivering the freight. This as I understand it kept us out of a lot of legal problems that could be associated with the idea. The point is if you snoop around or nose around you’re very likely to find a small freight company and they have some open space that they’ll let you use for surprisingly a little bit of nothing. Some delivery companies are such asshats that these local people will help you out for free just to throw jabs at them.

Wow bro. I would have lost my shit, straight up. Nice, please let us know the outcome. I would love to know what happens. Thanks and hoping for the best brotha.

I am so happy seeing this post. We are an owner operator with one truck and trailer. We just literally ran into this situation. I ended up calling OOIDA for advise. They told me the ball was in our court and we could set our rate to store the load. If they didn't agree then as a last ditch effort we could get a storage bldg and put the product in there. Also we could set our rate to return the load! The broker rep wasn't happy but he paid us what we asked for! You don't have to let them screw you! You can be professional and matter of fact! Also.... There is a possibility of filing on their bond. I hope this helps!!

Much respect to you professional drivers, almost everything we consume is shipped by you guys in all types of weather. You left out some important info though - how did the basketball game go ?

Once they mess up the date, beyond a 'reasonable delay', the contract is nullified. You hold all the cards

@huntertoledo8989

2 жыл бұрын

Yep!

I'd just say "You've got (X amount of time) to get this figured out before I figure it out....." It's your truck and trailer.... If you've got to throw everything out on their doorstep and count your losses, well that's a risk you have to take.... Or else it's a few grand a day or a few grand back haul..... Or you can see me in court.... Don't let them tell you how to use your equipment.... If I can't tell you to save money by driving slower, they can't tell you to hold cargo at their rate 🤷🏼‍♂️ their mistakes aren't your problem!

I'm a company driver, have been for almost 8 years. You have way more patience than I do man. I've had customers that made me wait two hours for me to pick up their load, I told them they have 10 more minutes, that's all I got then I'm leaving. Started driving off when it hit 10 minutes and saw a guy trying to chase me down, I'm like nope. Put it as a refusal.

Idk how I got to this video. I dont hold a CDL or a semi or trailer or whatever but dam I was pissed off!! I got into investing, real estate, stocks etc. 4 or 5 years ago But I got pissed off as if I was you lol hey man you know the saying. Time is money. Glad you had a positive outcome. I'm going to subscribe. Also y'all truckers need to make a Facebook page/group so other people can see what options they got in these situations or good ass lawyers y'all can call. And if y'all already have a group or page then share it so it helps people. Wish you best of days.

Never let the other side know your next move. Play the victim and deliver it as planned then file the lawsuit after.

I would have told the broker that they're going to be billed an additional freight charge to deliver it to your warehouse and then be billed a daily storage fee to store it in your warehouse. On top of that be billed an addition charge to re deliver it, as soon as it fits your Truck and trailers prior made commitments and Schedule... BS with BS.

@teamdada2194

2 жыл бұрын

Very good info. I see you’ve been through this before. I threatened to put a load in storage and bill them for it and everything changed.

@JJ38255

2 жыл бұрын

Tow truck companies do something similar all the time and if people want their dang car back they got to pay . They got to pay the storage, they got to pay the towing Bill and all that crap, so why the heck can't owner operators do the same thing if they're using their trailer as storage and holding him up.

I commend you for staying as calm as you did. I'm not a trucker but your video was very interesting. I'd bill them for the storage fees like the other person said in the comments and if they don't pay take them to small claims court or turn it over to whatever government agency oversees interstate commerce. Let them handle it, that's what they get paid for. You shouldn't have to take it in the keester.

Thank you for being the life blood of America your an amazing person and wish you the best bro

I’ll suggest you have him pay.. every dime. I’m a broker and some BROKERS don’t deserve to be in the BUSINESS. Lack of attention on the brokers side. I feel bad Guy

@Velox18

2 жыл бұрын

I learned from this experience... what I should say and what I shouldn't, lol. But he was cool about all of it. I just wish he didn't try to force me to sit on the load at first. He should have said they'd get it cross docked first thing Monday and we would have been straight.

Good job sticking to your guns. If everyone starts doing this, brokers & customers will stop dicking around with peoples livelihoods. They won't learn until they start losing money, time and products.

Dude you are super professional i would have flipped out and im just a company driver that gets paid a fraction of what you do good skills

That’s what happened to me and I told them if you don’t pay me I will keep the load in my storage and he told me I will call the police and I told them call them because I have confirmation for this load and it’s been confirmed between me and you for me to pick up for the service that I’m giving you and need my money 💰. He said I’m not, so I told him if not I will just sit with your load and u will loose your customer and will tell your customer that u are not paying me my money that u owe me for sitting for 2days. Within the next hour I got my money for 1500. Police could not do a dam thing because it’s business and all they would say is take up in court because it’s a civil matter.

Rent a step or rgn, and look at the load boards and other places…it’ll give you hope beyond grocery warehouse fiascos like this!

The level of frustration from hearing that phone call 🤦🏻‍♂️

Drop your trailer in a secure yard, rent a trailer make your next load, go back for the dropped trailer, use the layover pay to pay for the rental.

I really feel for you man. IT’s seems these people hold all the cards and can really screw truckers over. Hopefully people will learn from this and be prepared in future

As a 1 truck 1 trailer o/o I've bn in this sammeee situation.. these million dollar companies won't pay u jack ish if they mess up. I feel this whole situation 100%. Happened to me in Nov with a -10! Loaded on Mon night didn't get empty until Fri am maybe around 3 or 4. Was an 80 mile run ended up getting $3300 total which it orginally paid $600 bucks I believe. I also got to wait at home. Ik I didn't make nothing compared to a regular week but atleast I got something.

To all you truck drivers, thank you! Thank you for making the sacrifices and taking the time from home that you do, to keep our economy going. About ten years ago I got tasked with a logistical position for about a year and saw a lot of what truck drivers go through. So thank you for everything you guys and gals do for all of us. You are truly appreciated!

One thing I like about big carrier. Issue np, call dispatch, drop in closest yard. Grab trailer and get going on next load.

Thanks. I found a freight broker classes at Bellevue in AL for 1800 and im going to take it bc this wouldn't happen to me if I knew better

I’m 21 and about to go owner operator. I’ve been trucking since I was 19 and I’ve been very isolated so it’s hard to develop my communication skills. Videos like this help me so much so thank you!

@dominickjustave3558

Жыл бұрын

Go local o/o is done for

You can put a load in storage at a warehouse and charge them storage fees until they are paid. You legally own the load while it's on your truck. They legally don't get ownership until they sign for it and unload it.

@Mark-vu8ct

2 жыл бұрын

That's how we do it in car hauling on COD loads. I put the vehicles in storage until they pay the load, storage fee, and then I FedEx them the keys and location of the vehicles.

There is NOTHING on the BOL that states that it needs to be delivered on a dock! I have backed up, hit the brakes and left it on the ground. I signed the BOL delivered date and time. (told by Dispatch to do it and I did) greatest feeling ever! Funny thing, I was back the next week and unloaded real quick!

Not a trucker but youtube knows me better than I kno myself… great vid

Dammit Vato that sucks!! I came back to grain wrk because of that. Whenever I think of doing reefer or dry van again I watch ur videos n think nope no way haha. Good luck Vato!! Lol

@themendozafamily5055

2 жыл бұрын

How’s the grain work man ? I’ve been running dry van and I’m ready to get a walking floor 😅

@reygarcia6901

2 жыл бұрын

@The Mendoza Family it's good. Home everyday.

@losxmatitas6950

2 жыл бұрын

Homie, dices vato but later put the kid shit "lol"..concern with you homie

Feel your pain on this. Broker offering company driver layover pay to an OO is a total joke. Hire a damn lawyer.

@user-yq3fz9ch5q

2 жыл бұрын

FACT, CD vs O/O are two different aspects of trucking trying to be lumped as ONE.😤

@brodysmith2948

2 жыл бұрын

What is a OO?

@user-yq3fz9ch5q

2 жыл бұрын

@@brodysmith2948 owner operators

Way to go, standing up for yourself..

I found a buyer for onions I picked up in Arizona once. Was supposed to deliver in Massachusetts and when I got there on appointment. They said they couldn't unload me when I got there and told me they didn't know when they would be able to get to me. I found another market place near the location that was going to purchase the load and I told the broker. I was the very first truck they unloaded the next morning when they arrived at 0530. No fear. That's my advice. No one in this world can do anything to harm you or your family. Fear can turn anyone into a slave to this corrupt system. Live morally correct and faithful to The Lord and you will be amazed at the true power you actually have to not allow anyone to tread on you.