I did this year's ago with 2012 ktm450 efi good emergency fix.

Bravo 👍🏻✊🏻

that trick known for years is not only for TPI bikes :)

Do these work for 4 stroke fuel injected ktm?

Does anyone have any battery booster/power bank cheap but reliable enough to resort to? The other advice I would give to the community is to have a battery charger quick connector accessible from the air filter booth. Not only you would get your battery charging without having to remove the seat but, with the aid of some battery jumpers with a quick connector to that one, you could eventually help a buddy starting his bike. Happy new year Mark, happy new year everyone! 🎉

Thank you for your great videos and true tested tips. I was not able to get these answers from my dealer. Questions: Do you leave the capacitor installed? does it drain the battery when the bike is not running? Is it true that the electrical system can be damaged while trying to start a TPI without a battery hooked up? Extreme hot and cold weather, how does this capacitor fair with ambient temperature ? Thank you

@TokyoOffroad

4 жыл бұрын

I made an update video which goes through some frequently asked questions here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gIWZqdyHZ5ebl5s.html Yes, you can leave the capacitor installed all the time, connected to your battery. No, the capacitor will not drain your battery while the bike is not running. If you have a capacitor connected (and no battery) the TPI will run and no damage will occur. If no capacitor and no battery the engine will not run. The reason is the voltage produced by the stator is not stable enough to correctly power the fuel injection system. With a capacitor added the voltage is smoothed and the bike can run. You should note that some KTM/Husqvarna models are factory fitted with a capacitor (including KTM SXF/XCF/XC and Husqvarva FC/FX/TX) which will allow these bikes to be bump/hill started and run if the battery is dead. However, the 2020 KTM XC-W/XCF-W/EXC-F/EXC and Husqvarna TE/FE/FES do not have a capacitor and the BLS Capacitor will allow them to be bump/hill started. If kick starting then choose the option which includes the PreCharge Harness (allows for connection of a 9V for reliable kickstarting). Hot/cold weather is no issue for the capacitor. The capacitor is rated up to 105 degC. Recommend mounting in airbox so temps are not excessively hot. Life should be approximately 10 years.

Is it the same for TBI 2024 ?

Hi i have one of your capacitors fitted to my tpi. I also have a 690 enduro which i belive whould have the same issue, would your kit benefit my 690. Thank julian

Hi, I saw another guy make theese, the ring terminals on his were open ended, so you can just loosen the batteryterminals slightly, push the connectors in, and tighten the terminals. Much easier, so might be worth it for a 2.0 version :)

@TokyoOffroad

4 жыл бұрын

If you'd like to order a BLS Capacitor with spade connectors I'll be happy to supply it for the same cost. Just add a note when checking out. Personally I prefer the ring terminals, rather than spade terminals as the ring terminals are more secure. Yes, spade connectors are handy if you need to connect/disconnect regularly, but the capacitor can be connected permanently so I think ring terminals are better.

That works on the Efi also... My yz250fx has that mod

@bigals.ktms.9937

4 жыл бұрын

Yes it will

will this work on late model KTM/Husqvarna four strokes as well?

@TokyoOffroad

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, it should work exactly the same.

Do I have this right? So in a dead battery situation your capacitor would also be dead right? A kick or two will charge the capacitor and give you enough voltage to run the efi and it should start shortly after?

@TokyoOffroad

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, your understanding is correct.

With this capacitor installed can I use a small portable jump starter instead of kick or bump starting ? I carry one in my backpack.

@TokyoOffroad

Жыл бұрын

The capacitor will not cause any issues when using a jump starter, so no problem.

Do you know how long the capacitor will hold enough charge to start the bike once it’s power source is removed? I’m assuming the capacitor will bleed off charge over time with no power source.

@RIPPERTON

4 жыл бұрын

The cap doesnt need any charge to start the engine because it will charge up as soon as you start kicking. When running the cap is being held at about 13.6v by the alternator and regulator but would like to see a shot of a volt meter across the cap terminals. It will take about 5 mins to leak down to 0v.

@keithpankow3403

4 жыл бұрын

That was very helpful.

If the battery goes dead will a tip bike not be kick start able or bump start able? Would u need to have this in circuit?

@TokyoOffroad

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, that is correct. Note that there’s a gray zone between the battery operating correctly and being dead, in which it may be possible to kickstart (or bump/hill start) the bike, but not estart. But if the battery is really dead it will not start, or run. As explained in the video the capacitor will allow the bike to start (kick, bump/hill) and run even if the battery is completely dead, or removed.

*Finally!* Had this problem with a 4T TPI ( -Husaberg- KTM FE450 2010) and i sold it soon after i was forced to push it back home (20-30km downhill route) That specific bike also had the tank wrapped around the exhaust which was _the greatest idea_ for riding on boiling fuel and waste a couple of fuel pumps (300€ x2) PER SEASON of NOT even racing! Seeing *this* product today is the first time i consider switching to a TPI 2T bike. (i'm a carb slave atm (2 bikes) and i hate it for ONLY ONE reason: *Rivers!* ) Have you seen how far oil/gas mix travels, making the water of a river undrinkable if a race goes through it on two or more spots? (check my vid Riv3r 2016 for some footage of it (towards the end where i am dehydrating surrounded by water and i can't drink it!) *Respect to Tokyo Offroad* for *always* being *pioneers* in our sport!

It will fit to another motorcycle? Sherco sef 300 2014?? I have this problem

@TokyoOffroad

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, I should work fine, although please note that I have not tested it on that bike.

Sounds like a no brainer insurance policy. I imagine it doesn't have sufficient cranking amps to start the bike with the electric start, hence use of kick starter or bump start?

@TokyoOffroad

4 жыл бұрын

That's correct, the electric start will not work, but the kick start, or bump/hill start is no problem.

Now will the 9 volt harness allow the xcw to bump start???

@TokyoOffroad

2 жыл бұрын

If only bump/hill starting only the BLS Capacitor is required. But if the 9V harness is also attached (recommended for kickstarting) tit will still bump/hill start no problem.

Doesn't make sense to leave it hooked up. If you have a flat battery then seems to me you will discharge the capacitor as well. Maybe put a switch in the circuit or quick connect in the airbox?

@TokyoOffroad

4 жыл бұрын

There is no problem leaving the capacitor connected. The TPI bikes use lithium batteries and when they go flat they do not go short circuit. As such you can leave the capacitor connector all the time and when the estart doesn't work, due to a dead battery the capacitor will be there to enable starting by kickstarter, or bump/hill.

@EngineerK

4 жыл бұрын

@@TokyoOffroad I guess I was thinking with flat battery, hitting the start button you would discharge the capacitor?

@TokyoOffroad

4 жыл бұрын

@@EngineerK - Yes, estart will not work with a flat battery, even if the capacitor is fitted. But when you kick, or hill/bump start it the capacitor will charge allowing the engine to start and run even with a dead battery.

40$ for 1$ capacitor and zip tie? :)

If the battery dies how long can I still ride with just the Capacitor working ?

@0cernnunos0

4 жыл бұрын

Technically "forever". ST one This is an adhoc solution for a flat battery. You have to kick or jump start your bike.

@stone4858

4 жыл бұрын

@@0cernnunos0 Thank's for your feed back

Would this help a freeride KTM start easier with the Estart?

@TokyoOffroad

Жыл бұрын

I haven't tried, but think that adding a BLS Cap to carb bikes probably won't make a difference to starting. For Freeride good starting the key things to ensure are great shape are: 1) Battery- fully charged and terminals clean and secure; 2) Bendix bushings in good shape (XRC bronze bushings are a great upgrade from stock; 3) Bendix works smoothly, not gummed up, or damaged; 4) Starter motor is in good shape and spins quickly when power is applied.

@brianprince3110

Жыл бұрын

@@TokyoOffroad thanks for responding. I've done all that. Always looking for something on this freeride.

Do you keep it connected at all times? Why don’t you include it for 4 strokes?

@TokyoOffroad

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, it should work fine on 4-strokes too. However, I haven't tested it on 4-strokes so don't know for sure...

@eddie5556

4 жыл бұрын

@@TokyoOffroad I have done this on my 2016 350 EXC-F and it works great. I used a 10000uF 25V cap.

Hi, what is the capacity of that capacitor? Thanks

@bpowa

4 жыл бұрын

Either you don't comprehend or you are too lazy to watch and listen to the video. It's free to do so.

@brapamaldi7666

4 жыл бұрын

@@bpowa you dont comprehend. he asked what capacity, not what voltage. No amount of (micro)Farads (the capacity of a capacitor) was mentioned from what I heard. If I am wrong then tell me, how many Farads is the capacitor??? 50 volts is the maximum voltage it can handle and 105 degrees is the maximum temperature it can handle. Make a useful comment and show me I am wrong or appologize for being a dick.

@denys471

4 жыл бұрын

@@brapamaldi7666 that is exactly what I've meant. it's a bit strange that the maximum voltage is 50 volts not less but it is not the case. the main question is about capacity

@denys471

4 жыл бұрын

@@bpowa your videos are watched not only by the people whose native language is English btw

@brapamaldi7666

4 жыл бұрын

@@denys471 that LR T bloke doesnt actually produce any videos. if he did maybe he wouldnt have such a shitty attitude. all he does is make worthless comments to try and make himself feel smarter than he actually is ;)

not sure if it will work on TPI bike. there a lot of debates on ktmtalk forum, as well as on tupertalk, and there is no success story to use TPI bike with capacitor only. ktmtalk.com/showthread.php?543506-Capacitor-vs-battery-jumper&p=5269990&viewfull=1#post5269990

@TokyoOffroad

4 жыл бұрын

My personal experience is that with only a capacitor hill/bump starting works very reliably (every time): kzread.info/dash/bejne/qY13ktism6nIl6w.html For kick starting I found through extended testing it's not consistent. Sometimes it starts, but other times it doesn't. As such I'm now offering a harness which allows for the connection of a 9V battery (with protection diode), for kick start equipped bikes and when this is used kick starting becomes very reliable.

No entiendo el idioma, por favor un resumen en español de lo que es. Gracias!!!!

@M.Pedrosa27

4 жыл бұрын

Un capacitador capaz de capacitar

@senor7857

4 жыл бұрын

Y que a su vez capacita.

We run these on our 450 fuel injected snow bikes that don't have kick starters anymore.

@TokyoOffroad

4 жыл бұрын

I think you can purchase a kickstarter kit for the 4-strokes too can't you? Pretty sure you can't hill start a snow bike so that would be the best option. Or carry a spare battery...

@rodie4352

4 жыл бұрын

@@TokyoOffroad some still have a spot in the case yes but most have even eliminated that as well. You can pull on and bump start it but it's not fun. Most of us cary jump packs.

Hi. What price?

@TokyoOffroad

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your interest. I put a link in the description. The price is US$35.99 plus $7 shipping (registered airmail) to most countries. Canada shipping is by EMS only with a minimum of US$20 but shipments up to 500g are the same charge.

@xnotx2

4 жыл бұрын

@@TokyoOffroad WTF for a 50 cent capacitor....

@eddie5556

4 жыл бұрын

@@xnotx2 he did add some wire and a Dip ;>